In response to "Home Sweet Home" from the Escapist Forum:

There is no "down time." You see the characters in action, and they are built solely for that. You never see the hero without the weapon strapped to the side, because it's been an integral part of the character since conception--the character is a vehicle for the delivery of combat, not really a "character" in the literary sense.

There is little or no denouement in movies, either. Climactic fight scene, victory!, credits. No epilogue provided, or it's quite disposable if it's given. It's the story equivalent of a selfish lover immediately rolling over and going to sleep after "getting his/hers." The action's done, nothing more to see here.

You raise an interesting point (as does your whole post) - characters in games are always doing something and are very rarely, if ever, seen in a state of inaction or introspection. I might suppose that it's a symptom of the nature of games, but the examples provided in the article and others throughout gaming prove that it is simply not the case. The player does not necessitate the constant forward movement of the plot or continuous action, but merely expects it, as such moments are the simplest forms of satisfaction; as the player is constantly "doing stuff", he is constantly receiving input on that "stuff". Games can and do utilize periods of inaction to an equal and perhaps greater effect than constant action.

One example of a brilliant use of home is in Persona 4. As your days are spent doing a number of options, from going to school to exploring televisions to entering the meat dimension and killing demons, you always come home from the evening and are greeted by Nanako, your young niece. Her "Welcome home, big bro!" and beaming smile seems grading after a while, but it's a constant and you begin to expect it. Suddenly, when the plot removes her from her home, you come home to silence and an empty house. No more Big Bro, no more smiles. It's a change that adds a sudden emotional weight and seriousness to your quest - you're not just trying to "save the world", you're trying to save Nanako, and the human sense of scale makes it a far more personal, and thus more important, objective.

To include home in this sense, or in the Fallout sense, or in any brief form provides with indirect exposition an emotional narrative, however brief, that simply cannot be achieved through direct narration, least of all to the degree that indirect narration could. You aren't told that "War never changes", but you see for yourself, for your own personal perception and interpretation, that war, and by extension human nature, never changes.

- 9Ninebreaker9

For me, one of the happiest bits of good news on this front in the past year was the handling of Hyperion in Starcraft 2.

Getting comfortable on the ship and getting to know the characters outside of combat built a stronger bond between them and the player than in the original and reminded me of what I loved about the Wing Commander games, which had been doing this since 1990. If either Starcraft 2 or Wing Commander had been nothing but constant combat, what would you be fighting for? Why would you care about your crew or your wingmen? How could you become invested in an empty universe?

P.S. I have to echo 9NineBreaker9's praise of the Persona series and would like to add an aside about Final Fantasy XIII. Persona 3 and 4 are just about the pinnacle in getting players invested in the characters and the universe by making what would normally be considered downtime in an RPG into, arguably, the best portion of the game. On the opposite extreme, Final Fantasy XIII, in which the focus was squarely (no pun intended) on action, there is no 'home' and practically no downtime. When everything moves at a lightning-fast (again, no pun intended) pace, you can't reflect on what you've been doing or why any of it is supposed to matter.

- Megs1120


In response to "Battlefield: washington" from the Escapist Forum: Maybe this is just me, but I was operating under the impression that you had to be at least seventeen or older to purchase M rated games. As well, isn't it usually the parents' discretion as to what games they allow their children to play? My parents have always been pretty lenient, yes, but they were also pretty strict on the mature games. So I thought most parents were like this, that it was the parents' responsibility to look after what it was that their kids played; it's not that hard to figure out that a game with a Mature rating isn't appropriate for a young kid. Still, I think it's more of something that should be left to parents' discretion instead of having the government enforce something that seems incredibly subjective - what defines 'deviance' and 'extreme violence' anyway?

I've never encountered anything that has a higher rating than M though. :/

But this reminds me a little of the fear-mongering that the media tends to do whenever video games get involved and it bugs me. A lot. It feels as though a lot of these people have never picked up a video game before and are just wildly speculating about the fact that just because someone might have played a game before - whether it's extremely violent or not - that automatically means that it's entirely the games fault for what they did or how they turned out. It's like all of the other factors that could come into play into turning someone into a 'deviant' or criminal are irrelevant because obviously video games are the primary culprit. /sarcasm

Seriously, I wonder why people try to argue something when they don't even understand what they're arguing against. And that can come back and shoot them in the foot. To use an example: Recently a Catholic priest read through the entire Harry Potter series which has largely been deemed 'Satanical' and the like, and discovered that to the contrary, it promoted values that Christianity encourages or endorses.

Then again, there are a lot of idiots out there who fail to realize that somethings are a joke and continue to think that they're in the right despite their own ignorance. As my Social Studies teacher once said: "You're not entitled to your own opinion, you're entitled to your own INFORMED opinion."

- estoria-etnia

Okay, right. What?

Okay okay, so this law would state that the sale of games rated as violent would be illegal to sell to people under 18? Soo...? I don't quite get it, I was under the impression that that was how things worked here in the UK. Even if it isn't, assuming it does not ban these games, what is stopping the children asking their parents to get it for them? I'm clearly missing something as everybody is up in arms about it.

Also why is stopping children, with parents who don't pay attention to what there children do, getting access to games a necessarily evil thing? Sure games may or may not effect development at a young age, but stopping 12 years olds buying Postal (which has come up a lot in this case) isn't entirely evil. I just watched the Extra Credits video on this and I still don't get it. Now I'm very pro games are art, and should not be restricted more than any other medium, but here in the UK I think I'm safe in saying that games/movies/whatever have age ratings, these ratings are issued by the people who know what they are on about and the sale of such goods to people under this age is illegal. However it is not illegal to buy them for someone else, or for some one under age to use the product (a key difference between smoking & drinking products).

I have read other posts that say this law could allow them to control the release of games to the entire public, how so?

So please, someone enlighten me.

The point is they are making a special exception for Video Games above and beyond any other form of media, and enforcing those restrictions through law. See, content like films and music that gets labeled as 'explicit' or 'restricted'? Enforcement of those ratings is voluntary for the industry involved - there is no legal barrier preventing 12-year old kids from buying an album with explicit lyrics, attending an R-rated film, or buying an M-rated game; with only one exception (porn), all forms of media enjoy equal protection in law. By that I mean if a theater knowingly or accidentally lets kids who don't meet their own internal age requirement into an R-rated film, they are not criminally liable for doing so.

That is the sticking point - the California legislation would mandate that the state rate all video games by content (as opposed to the ratings produced by voluntary participation in the ERSB) and would make it a crime to sell video games deemed "excessively violent" to children. Never mind that when it comes to internally enforcing age restrictions, the video game industry does a vastly better job than the film or music industry at actually keeping kids away from mature content. It would codify in law that video games do not enjoy the same free speech protections as other forms of media do, hands over rating authority to state bureaucrats without addressing just where the hell they're going to find the funding to do all that rating (hint: Our tax dollars!), while producing chilling ramifications for the development of mature games - where is the incentive to develop such titles if the distribution side of the equation isn't going to stock them for fear of being criminally liable?

It might seem to be much the same thing, but there is a whole world of difference between voluntary enforcement of store policies that translates into an effective ban on sales of violent video games to minors, and a law mandating an actual ban on such sales via the stick of criminal liability.

As for the UK comparison, I am understandably fuzzy on the details of the their rating board and the legal status of those ratings (what with being an American and all), but are you certain that the act of sale of a game that was rated "18 and over" to a minor is actually classified as a criminal action?

- Gildan Bladeborn

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