Berserk: it finally happened

I don't even know what to say.

It truly felt like this day would never, ever come.

Like, genuinely.

But after over two decades...


Thoughts?

bartholen:

Thoughts?

Well, that took Miura long enough, didn't it? Christ, I was a teenager when I first heard of Berserk.

As far as the story goes, though... it's not going to end well, that's for sure.

And I feel I should get into Beserk now.....until I after I finshed getting into Conan the Barbarain.

And regarding your feelings on the Spoiler, its the same feelings I would get once Luffy and Crew finally discover The One Piece.

First we get off the boat, and now this?

Whiny little 'Game of Thrones' fans ain't got nothing on us Berserk fans when it comes to THE WAIT.

Tanis:
First we get off the boat, and now this?

Whiny little 'Game of Thrones' fans ain't got nothing on us Berserk fans when it comes to THE WAIT.

Conan the Barbarian fans are still waiting for THIS to be a movie:

O_O

Holy crap!

As much as I love Berserk, I'm left shrugging at this.

The series has steadily declined in quality since the Tower of Conviction arc, and just because Guts got off the boat and Casca got her personality back doesn't make it any less of a bit shit. Even the way it handled the "salvage mission" feels amateuristic compared to how it portrayed similarly heavy/intricate matters in its earlier years.

I'm only checking up on it occassionally out of obligation, but that's really it. Maybe things will get a bit more interesting and involving now that Casca's back, but I highly doubt it.

They also made Casca's face too childlike, probably because of the change in art style due to going digital. She's supposed to be the same age as Guts, yet her face looks like she's barely 17. I know she lost some bulk over the years due to no longer living the warrior life, but this doesn't decrease her age does it? I mean she looks older during the Golden Age arc. Even her eyebrows got slimmed down. If I didn't know any better, judging just from her face, I'd think she was an elf like Puck.

So yeah, Casca's back, but current Berserk is still shit.

Might be time to catch up at last.

Then wait in agony for the next chapter.

gigastar:
Might be time to catch up at last.

Then wait in agony for the next chapter.

As astonishing as it is to say, Berserk has been pretty steady for the past 4 months. While that's not exactly a concrete promise of the schedule improving, I'll take it any day over the fucking year-long hiatuses.

bartholen:

gigastar:
Might be time to catch up at last.

Then wait in agony for the next chapter.

As astonishing as it is to say, Berserk has been pretty steady for the past 4 months. While that's not exactly a concrete promise of the schedule improving, I'll take it any day over the fucking year-long hiatuses.

Strange that, i recall there was almost a year hiatus before these 4 months of steady releases.

bartholen:

gigastar:
Might be time to catch up at last.

Then wait in agony for the next chapter.

As astonishing as it is to say, Berserk has been pretty steady for the past 4 months. While that's not exactly a concrete promise of the schedule improving, I'll take it any day over the fucking year-long hiatuses.

So how did Casca came back to life?

Samtemdo8:
So how did Casca came back to life?

She didn't, she was already alive.

She was "simply" traumatized into retardation, to put it bluntly. Mindbroken.

Casual Shinji:

Samtemdo8:
So how did Casca came back to life?

She didn't, she was already alive.

She was "simply" traumatized into retardation, to put it bluntly. Mindbroken.

Because Griffith? basically aborted her and Gutz's unborn child/fetus and mutated into some Cronenberg Abomination to fuck with Gutz because he's that kind of asshole?

Samtemdo8:

Casual Shinji:

Samtemdo8:
So how did Casca came back to life?

She didn't, she was already alive.

She was "simply" traumatized into retardation, to put it bluntly. Mindbroken.

Because Griffith? basically aborted her and Gutz's unborn child/fetus and mutated into some Cronenberg Abomination to fuck with Gutz because he's that kind of asshole?

No, it was because Griffith sold out Gutz, Casca and the entire Band of the Hawk out to be gruesomely slaughtered in a blood sacrifice so he could become the 5th member of the Godhand. Except for Casca, who got the horrible honor of being raped till her mind broke first (he also made Gutz watch, for kicks).

Chimpzy:

Samtemdo8:

Casual Shinji:
She didn't, she was already alive.

She was "simply" traumatized into retardation, to put it bluntly. Mindbroken.

Because Griffith? basically aborted her and Gutz's unborn child/fetus and mutated into some Cronenberg Abomination to fuck with Gutz because he's that kind of asshole?

No, it was because Griffith sold out Gutz, Casca and the entire Band of the Hawk out to be gruesomely slaughtered in a blood sacrifice so he could become the 5th member of the Godhand. Except for Casca, who got the horrible honor of being raped till her mind broke first (he also made Gutz watch, for kicks).

Hmm you know maybe she should have stayed dead inside/mindbroken. After that gruesome experiance I feel it should have served as some form of lesson that Gutz should take to heart.

And now he's retribution against Griffith is gonna feel less impactful now that Casca's back to normal.

Unless there was always hints and possibilites that Casca could come back to normal before this new reveal happened?

Samtemdo8:
Hmm you know maybe she should have stayed dead inside/mindbroken. After that gruesome experiance I feel it should have served as some form of lesson that Gutz should take to heart.

This is sort of suggested throughout the story.

Like someone who isn't able to deal with the trauma of a loved one, Guts hasn't exactly made the best decisions regarding Casca. He goes out to regain Caska's mind, not because it's necessarily the best thing for her, but because he wants the woman he loved back. He's also specifically told that what he wants might not be what she wants.

Casual Shinji:

Samtemdo8:
Hmm you know maybe she should have stayed dead inside/mindbroken. After that gruesome experiance I feel it should have served as some form of lesson that Gutz should take to heart.

This is sort of suggested throughout the story.

Like someone who isn't able to deal with the trauma of a loved one, Guts hasn't exactly made the best decisions regarding Casca. He goes out to regain Caska's mind, not because it's necessarily the best thing for her, but because he wants the woman he loved back. He's also specifically told that what he wants might not be what she wants.

Ok I gotta ask and I am being serious here, why is this series called Berserk? And why is the main character named Guts?

That sounds like a name you would give to a parody of character like its the name of a Comedic Parody of any Warrior charcater in anything.

Samtemdo8:

Ok I gotta ask and I am being serious here, why is this series called Berserk? And why is the main character named Guts?

That sounds like a name you would give to a parody of character like its the name of a Comedic Parody of any Warrior charcater in anything.

I don't know the author's reasons for the series' name, but if I had to speculate:

The series is called "Berzerk" after Guts, who fights without any sense of meaning or desire to continue living (especially prior to his relationship with Casca and the original band of the Hawk) - and later as much out of a need for vengeance as anything. He fights like a "Berzerker" - one who is fiercer in combat thanks to his utter disregard for his own survival. The "Berzerker armor" he gets midway through the series just emphasizes this. In other words, the series is about Guts' search for meaning - for a reason to care about his own life.

As for Guts' name:

The in-universe reasons: I forget if it's ever made clear who named Guts, but I imagine Guts' antagonistic adopted father named him ironically, as a reference to the circumstances surrounding Guts' birth (how he was 'born' from his mother's rotting corpse).

The out-of-universe reason: Miura thought it sounded German and heroic (https://www.reddit.com/r/Berserk/comments/3hd7gf/origin_of_guts_name/).

If I were to add to that, I'd say that in a way it's fitting to the themes of the series, which emphasizes the flesh and blood material physiology of both humans and demons. Emphasizing the viscerally bodily nature of human existence seems like a way into highlighting the need for an answer to the question of the meaning of life (which, as I explained, is what the series is about). By emphasizing the idea that human beings might just be material objects, no different from any other, thus that death is the end, etc., the question of how our lives can be meaningful seems to become more pressing. Of course, the bravery/fortitude of the one seeking meaning (Guts) seems implied too, especially since he has no guarantee that he will ever "find what he's looking for", and it may be that his efforts only amount to senseless suffering.

Re: Guts' name... in one of those coincidences Jung would probably chalk up to synchronicity, there actually existed a Germanic knight with a similar-sounding name who also happened to have a metal prosthetic arm, even though Miura couldn't reasonably be expected to know anything about him.

Samtemdo8:
Ok I gotta ask and I am being serious here, why is this series called Berserk? And why is the main character named Guts?

That sounds like a name you would give to a parody of character like its the name of a Comedic Parody of any Warrior charcater in anything.

It's called Berserk, because that's kinda the state that Guts is in after what Griffith pulled. There's plenty of panels that show how inhumanly insane with rage and bloodlust Guts gets during combat.

As for why Guts is named 'Guts'... This is a medieval setting where last names are only reserved for nobles, and where the commoners generally have very basic and/or crude names. Griffith is only called 'Griffith', and Caska is only called 'Caska'. It also was very common for someone to be named after their profession (Guts tends to slauther a lot).

Guts' name also stems from him being seen as worthless muck by his adopted father. Another word for guts is offal, which I believe in the olden days was used as an insult, and I assume where the word 'awful' comes from.

When I first heard his name before reading the manga I thought it was similarly a generic badass name, but once I got into the story I realized the name makes perfect sense.

Casual Shinji:
Guts' name also stems from him being seen as worthless muck by his adopted father. Another word for guts is offal, which I believe in the olden days was used as an insult, and I assume where the word 'awful' comes from.

I was curious about this, so I looked it up. From what I can tell, it's not clear that 'awful' and 'offal' have any etymological relation; they have different roots, with the first being related to "that which inspires fear" and the second being related to "to fall off" (i.e. that which 'falls off' the butcher's block) (https://www.etymonline.com/word/awful) (https://www.etymonline.com/word/offal). 'Awful' used to have much weighter connotations of something which induced dread, whereas 'offal' was apparently more about refuse - not something dreadful, just something unwanted in the way waste is unwanted.

That said, I do think you are right that Guts' name is meant to relate to 'offal' and its root meaning by its evoking imagery of spilled innards and everything about them which is grotesque, unclean, and calling to be disposed of.

This is a bump for a reason because its been almost a year since this...momentous event has happened.

So what has happened in the world of Berserk since then?

Samtemdo8:
This is a bump for a reason because its been almost a year since this...momentous event has happened.

So what has happened in the world of Berserk since then?

Since being cured not much has happened. Last time we saw her she set eyes on Guts for the first time and had a sudden flashback. Since then there have been two or three chapters of Griffith killing giants and that's it. The manga is in the midst of another hiatus atm.

Fappy:

Since being cured not much has happened. Last time we saw her she set eyes on Guts for the first time and had a sudden flashback. Since then there have been two or three chapters of Griffith killing giants and that's it. The manga is in the midst of another hiatus atm.

Boy, what a shock.

Does Miura even want to work on this series anymore?

Casual Shinji:
Does Miura even want to work on this series anymore?

Good question. Aside from short single volume series Japan and Gigantomakhia, the guy has basically worked on nothing else for the past 30 years. I wouldn't really blame him if he's kind of sick of it.

Chimpzy:

Casual Shinji:
Does Miura even want to work on this series anymore?

Good question. Aside from short single volume series Japan and Gigantomakhia, the guy has basically worked on nothing else for the past 30 years. I wouldn't really blame him if he's kind of sick of it.

I think it's pretty apparent that he is. And beyond having worked on it for 30 years, the story has become way too big to ever get proper closure. It's a testament to how Muira managed to craft this whole world by himself, but it's just too freaking huge.

Casual Shinji:

Chimpzy:

Casual Shinji:
Does Miura even want to work on this series anymore?

Good question. Aside from short single volume series Japan and Gigantomakhia, the guy has basically worked on nothing else for the past 30 years. I wouldn't really blame him if he's kind of sick of it.

I think it's pretty apparent that he is. And beyond having worked on it for 30 years, the story has become way too big to ever get proper closure. It's a testament to how Muira managed to craft this whole world by himself, but it's just too freaking huge.

I imagine he envies novelists. They can tell a whole lot more story in a lot less time working on their own.

bartholen:

Thoughts?

That certain storytellers really suck at the art of storytelling if they expect people to wait decades to do something and even then, not really resolving the main story in any way.

Who will finish first? HxH or Berserk?

 

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