Notre Dame Cathedral is Burning Badly right now.

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Live footage right now:

No idea if there is any foul play here or purely an accident.

I'm not Catholic, but the architecture, the history, the artistry in the gargoyles and stain glass...several films ased on a play and book...

I hope they can save it for those sakes alone if nothing else.

The Spire collapsed.

Samtemdo8:
The Spire collapsed.

Just saw that. 600, 1300 years of history, and during Holy Week. There were probably people in the near constant Masses in that church.

No matter how damaged it ends up, they'll repair it for sure (even if it means rebuilding it from the ground up).

EDIT: Fun fact. The original novel of Hunchback of Notre-Dame was written with the intention of bringing up to the reader the importance of preserving historical monuments like the Notre Dame Cathedral.

CaitSeith:
No matter how damaged it ends up, they'll repair it for sure (even if it means rebuilding it from the ground up).

But lots of priceless art and historical artifacts may have burned and destroyed.

It's like the Library of Alexandria going up in smoke.

Notre Dame is one of the biggest historical and architectural treasures in Europe. The level of detail that went into the building's construction was positively insane.

Samtemdo8:

CaitSeith:
No matter how damaged it ends up, they'll repair it for sure (even if it means rebuilding it from the ground up).

But lots of priceless art and historical artifacts may have burned and destroyed.

^That. Notre Dame will be rebuilt (At the very least because tourism, but hopefully the Catholic Church will pitch in too), but the artifacts and artworks are gone forever.

saint of m:
I'm not Catholic, but the architecture, the history, the artistry in the gargoyles and stain glass...several films ased on a play and book...

I hope they can save it for those sakes alone if nothing else.

It wouldn't be the first, sadly. The old Palace of Westminster was another victim of fire. So sad to see so much history literally go up in smoke, I hope it wasn't deliberate.

That is painful to see. It's one of the most iconic pieces of historic architecture. Damage already looks extensive.

Samtemdo8:

CaitSeith:
No matter how damaged it ends up, they'll repair it for sure (even if it means rebuilding it from the ground up).

But lots of priceless art and historical artifacts may have burned and destroyed.

Mostly paintings and statues. Everything else is at the museum.

That is pretty depressing. Especially since Notre Dame is a famous and historical landmark.

(I sure hope the Hunchback managed to make it out...)

It's been a dry few week lately. But... man, that's depressing. Such a beautiful building. History going up in flames.

So there was a epic fight right? Like angels and demons and slayers and Grey Knights right?

Silentpony:
So there was a epic fight right? Like angels and demons and slayers and Grey Knights right?

This is no laughing matter here dude.

I'd say it's burning rather well.

This saddens me on so many levels. I hope that the damages to human life and welfare are as minimal as possible.

As for the cathedral itself: It is tragic. And we can rebuild. And we should rebuild.

Silentpony:
So there was a epic fight right? Like angels and demons and slayers and Grey Knights right?

THis 1100 year old church has been as much an icon for Frans as say the Twin Towers were for the US. As fun as a 40k reference is, Red One's go Faster, we probably should leave it at that for now.

So is the main theory just an accident caused by the renovations

You know what sucks? Some people are blaming politics for this whole mess. God, I hate people sometimes...

Samtemdo8:

Silentpony:
So there was a epic fight right? Like angels and demons and slayers and Grey Knights right?

This is no laughing matter here dude.

I'm just saying if we're gonna lose Notre Dame, the world deserves a duel worthy of losing it. Having Notre Dame just burn down from a electrical fire during a renovation is just...wrong. Its lame. Its either epic showdown or no fire.

saint of m:

Silentpony:
So there was a epic fight right? Like angels and demons and slayers and Grey Knights right?

THis 1100 year old church has been as much an icon for Frans as say the Twin Towers were for the US. As fun as a 40k reference is, Red One's go Faster, we probably should leave it at that for now.

So is the main theory just an accident caused by the renovations

I thought that was a Dan Brown reference.

If I were a god-fearing man, and I'm not, I'd say it follows pretty closely on this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47898562

Bit of good news, at least. The paintings, crown of thorns, holy sacraments, all good. Though one or two news sources are now saying "some" of the paintings were saved, so I suppose we'll see.

Hopefully this was not intentional. When this Jew visited earlier with family, I kept myself occupied by lighting a candle. Cost me $2 Euros. I used a stick, the smoldering red end of which broke off and rolled under the wooden table on which the candles rested. I dropped to my belly and put the ember out with my fingers *ouch*. When I got up, of course, family was laughing their butts off. The thing has stood for 850 years and nearly collapsed when this klutz visited. Very possibly, someone wasn't as willing to burn their fingers as I.

Samtemdo8:

CaitSeith:
No matter how damaged it ends up, they'll repair it for sure (even if it means rebuilding it from the ground up).

But lots of priceless art and historical artifacts may have burned and destroyed.

The one positive thought here is that there's less than there could have been, as the same renovation works that are the suspected cause of the fire also meant a lot of stuff got moved out of the cathedral

Silentpony:
So there was a epic fight right? Like angels and demons and slayers and Grey Knights right?

THis 1100 year old church has been as much an icon for Frans as say the Twin Towers were for the US. As fun as a 40k reference is, Red One's go Faster, we probably should leave it at that for now.

So is the main theory just an accident caused by the renovations

Kwak:

saint of m:

Silentpony:
So there was a epic fight right? Like angels and demons and slayers and Grey Knights right?

THis 1100 year old church has been as much an icon for Frans as say the Twin Towers were for the US. As fun as a 40k reference is, Red One's go Faster, we probably should leave it at that for now.

So is the main theory just an accident caused by the renovations

I thought that was a Dan Brown reference.

I hear Grey Knights, I see OP A Space Marines that have everyone a psyker and Terminators as a Troop choice how did you survive my tank shot?

In more relevant news the stone structure is expected to stand, and as was posted earlier, the art and sacred icons, as well as the people inside made it out safely. So far only one firefighter was injured, but no deaths mentioned

I noticed there was scaffolding up - it's potentially connected to building work as that often involves heating stuff up and accidents often seem to happen.

It's deeply tragic - a lot history going up in smoke. If they restore it - if they even can after a fire that bad - it'll take years and years.

Reminds me of the fire that destroyed the Museu Nacional here in Brazil some 6 months ago. The news reported that this big rock from space was one of the few items that survived the fire, and I was like... oh, no shit. I'm guessing the cathedral doesn't have any rocks from space though.

That absolutely sucks.
Always sad to see not only "history" going out in fire, but also the decades or centuries of efforts of those working on preserving it.

Leg End:
Bit of good news, at least. The paintings, crown of thorns, holy sacraments, all good. Though one or two news sources are now saying "some" of the paintings were saved, so I suppose we'll see.

skywolfblue:
It's like the Library of Alexandria going up in smoke.

Wouldn't say it's that bad.
Hell, even in more recent times, the fire in National Museum of Brazil could be potentially more disastrous.

Ironically, the renovations that might've caused the fire(if that theory is confirmed), might also have been the saving grace, if most of the art being normally present there was evicted for the time being.

CrazyGirl17:
You know what sucks? Some people are blaming politics for this whole mess. God, I hate people sometimes...

Others are saying it?s deserved because it?s a Catholic Church.

People are disgusting monsters.

Edit: or saying it doesn't matter cause other things are happening in the world.

https://twitter.com/jessbhdz/status/1117867072438988800?s=21


No, but seriously this is pretty tragic. Has there been any word on any injuries? Interesting to know how this happened.

Baffle2:
If I were a god-fearing man, and I'm not, I'd say it follows pretty closely on this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47898562

Wow. Just wow.

So unconfirmed, unreliable update from a frenchman:

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Though it is apparently in line with what the authorities are generally saying.

Would be good news, though i'd be careful about it, given fire brigades reportedly focused on rescuing art, rather than putting out the fire itself(understandable, since water can be almost as bad for old artifacts found in a church like this). And then there's also aerial view of the place when the Hellfire was still going on.

image

MrCalavera:
That absolutely sucks.
Always sad to see not only "history" going out in fire, but also the decades or centuries of efforts of those working on preserving it.

Leg End:
Bit of good news, at least. The paintings, crown of thorns, holy sacraments, all good. Though one or two news sources are now saying "some" of the paintings were saved, so I suppose we'll see.

skywolfblue:
It's like the Library of Alexandria going up in smoke.

Wouldn't say it's that bad.
Hell, even in more recent times, the fire in National Museum of Brazil could be potentially more disastrous.

Ironically, the renovations that might've caused the fire(if that theory is confirmed), might also have been the saving grace, if most of the art being normally present there was evicted for the time being.

If there was any foul play the police would have find something already.

Such a tragedy.
I was there in November and, for what it's worth, I don't recall that much "art" inside the cathedral itself.
Thankfully they're rebuilding the parts that were lost (obviously) and hopefully they'll get to the root of the fire.

RaikuFA:

CrazyGirl17:
You know what sucks? Some people are blaming politics for this whole mess. God, I hate people sometimes...

Others are saying it?s deserved because it?s a Catholic Church.

People are disgusting monsters.

Edit: or saying it doesn?t matter cause other things are happening in the world.

https://twitter.com/jessbhdz/status/1117867072438988800?s=21

Yeah, this is about as bad as Westboro blaming cyclones in Austrlaia for the people voting for same sex marriage or Trump blaming job destruction and crime on immigrants or the Pope blaming sex abuse in the Catholic Church on the sexual revolution.

Even if some people in the Catholic Church did the wrong thing, not all of them have. The Notre Dame literally did nothing. It's a building.

Silentpony:
So there was a epic fight right? Like angels and demons and slayers and Grey Knights right?

The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire.

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