Books, Movies, Comics, TV, or Games where spoilers would ruin it.

Don't name why the spoiler would ruin it, just name a pece of media where the spoiler would ruin it for someone that hasn't read/watched/played it.

Here are some of my Examples.

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. The Usual Suspects (Yes, I know, Kevin SPacy, there are other good actors in it)
3. Mystery of Cove: Fires of Innovation (Book)
4. Alien: Harvest (Book)

You were spoiled before watching Empire Strikes Back that:

SPOILER ALERT!!!

Vader is Luke's Father?

Predestination

The disappearance of Alice Creed

Pet

American Mary

that is all (not a film, just saying I'm buggering off now)

Infinity War Thanos Snap and Game of Thrones Red Wedding because the internet hype and meme machine could not keep their fucking mouth shut.

Wouldn't that be most pieces of fiction?

If ruining a plot twist doesn't affect much, then it apparently wasn't much of a plot twist then.

Samtemdo8:
You were spoiled before watching Empire Strikes Back that:

SPOILER ALERT!!!

Vader is Luke's Father?

Homer did it for him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwZRFA0cLaM

Hawki:
Wouldn't that be most pieces of fiction?

If ruining a plot twist doesn't affect much, then it apparently wasn't much of a plot twist then.

Samtemdo8:
You were spoiled before watching Empire Strikes Back that:

SPOILER ALERT!!!

Vader is Luke's Father?

Homer did it for him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwZRFA0cLaM

When you think about it. The Story of Jesus is the most ultimate spoiled story because you see that image of the man crucified everywhere.

Off the top of my head...

*Puella Magia Madoka Magica
*Undertale
*Spec Ops: the Line
*Doki Doki Literature Club

Samtemdo8:

When you think about it. The Story of Jesus is the most ultimate spoiled story because you see that image of the man crucified everywhere.

Spoiler: Jesus gets off the cross three days later and ascends into Heaven.

Samtemdo8:
because the internet hype and meme machine could not keep their fucking mouth shut.

Pretty funny hearing you say that after doing the exact same thing with ESB, immediately after the OP told you not to. Didn't even use a spoiler box- it's like you're actively trying to be the worst kind of poster in the world.

Samtemdo8:
Infinity War Thanos Snap and Game of Thrones Red Wedding because the internet hype and meme machine could not keep their fucking mouth shut.

Honestly, anything Game of Thrones. I stopped caring partially because within a day of an episode airing the Internet will start putting spoilers in the fucking headlines about characters dying and people getting raped. Because apparently everyone watches episodes on the night they air. That and the fact the writing quality has dropped like a rock in the last few seasons. I'll wait for the books to finish.

But yeah, at this point everyone knows about the Thanos Snap because spoilers are dead apparently.

Squilookle:

Samtemdo8:
because the internet hype and meme machine could not keep their fucking mouth shut.

Pretty funny hearing you say that after doing the exact same thing with ESB, immediately after the OP told you not to. Didn't even use a spoiler box- it's like you're actively trying to be the worst kind of poster in the world.

I apologize then. I just thought ESB was the exception because honsently....who does not know the famous "I am your father" line?

It pretty much became basic human culture. And the OP says he was already spoiled?

Is it really still possible to watch Empire Strikes Back without knowing the twist? Just like I imagine it's very hard to watch Citizen Kane without knowing what Rosebud is or watching Planet of the Apes without knowing what the titular planet is or watching/reading Harry Potter 6 without knowing what happens to Dumbledore.

Otherwise, I guess Silent Hill 2 is a game that's worse if you already know the twist. Generally speaking though... I never minded spoilers much. A movie or a game that's good will be good, even if you already know the twist.

PsychedelicDiamond:
Is it really still possible to watch Empire Strikes Back without knowing the twist?

Has everybody who will watch the movie done so by this moment in time? No. Has everyone who will watch it even been born yet? No.

There will always be new people who haven't seen something. Always. Don't be that insufferable prick that assumes the ephemeral 'everybody' has already seen something. Because it will never be the case.

(Not saying you're an insufferable prick. Just saying don't be that insufferable prick. Nobody wants to be an insufferable prick)

Squilookle:
Nobody wants to be an insufferable prick)

I can't help but think of characters like House and think "actually, being a prick can be pretty fun if you pull it off right."

There's one or two parts in the Darth and Droids comic that probably would, but I can't point to which ones without spoiling.

Actually, could be lots, but I've only gotten up to the beginning of the Rogue One stuff.

PsychedelicDiamond:
Just like I imagine it's very hard to watch Citizen Kane without knowing what Rosebud is

I actually managed to avoid knowing that until it was deliberately spoiled in this forum...I think last year?

PsychedelicDiamond:
Otherwise, I guess Silent Hill 2 is a game that's worse if you already know the twist. Generally speaking though... I never minded spoilers much. A movie or a game that's good will be good, even if you already know the twist.

The thing with Silent Hill 2 is that by its very nature it spoils itself. All you have to know is 'grieving husband looking for dead wife in Silent Hill'. Gee, I wonder who killed her?

Squilookle:

PsychedelicDiamond:
Is it really still possible to watch Empire Strikes Back without knowing the twist?

Has everybody who will watch the movie done so by this moment in time? No. Has everyone who will watch it even been born yet? No.

There will always be new people who haven't seen something. Always. Don't be that insufferable prick that assumes the ephemeral 'everybody' has already seen something. Because it will never be the case.

I think what he means is that the Empire twist has become so ingrained with pop culture that it's nearly impossible to watch it blind without having been exposed to it through osmosis.

I second Puella Magia Madoka Magica.

Can't think of anything else atm.

The older I've got, the less I've cared about spoilers. In fact, at some point probably about 5-10 years ago I even started occasionally reading the end of a book after I'd got about a third of the way through.

I'm not sure why I started doing this. Is it a habit from reading scientific papers? You flick through the abstract, intro, then go to the conclusions and read the rest of the paper (i.e. the methods, results and discussion) only if you feel the need the extra detail. I wonder if it's from reading too many predictable stories (peasant who's actually king blah magic sword blah dark lord blah), yeah, you already know the end - like ancient Greek tragedy, where everyone in the audience knew the story and its end, it was just about how that version got there.

Agema:
The older I've got, the less I've cared about spoilers. In fact, at some point probably about 5-10 years ago I even started occasionally reading the end of a book after I'd got about a third of the way through.

I'm not sure why I started doing this. Is it a habit from reading scientific papers? You flick through the abstract, intro, then go to the conclusions and read the rest of the paper (i.e. the methods, results and discussion) only if you feel the need the extra detail. I wonder if it's from reading too many predictable stories (peasant who's actually king blah magic sword blah dark lord blah), yeah, you already know the end - like ancient Greek tragedy, where everyone in the audience knew the story and its end, it was just about how that version got there.

I'm not sure I've ever really cared about spoilers. If I have, I stopped at some point, though. Knowing what's going to happen doesn't diminish the impact of a story for me. I guess I'm just not terribly impressed by surprise and suspense is either independent of knowing what will happen or isn't important to me. I guess as someone who writes things it's really present for me that what I'm looking at when I'm reading or watching fiction is a collection of choices made by someone (or a group of people) and that the paths not taken are potentially just as or more interesting to consider. So while some people might take pleasure from suspense, I can derive satisfaction from imagining what didn't happen (and the possibility that it could have) even while I know what did happen.

That being said, a first viewing is more likely to provoke laughter at particularly clever plot twists.

Casual Shinji:

Squilookle:

Has everybody who will watch the movie done so by this moment in time? No. Has everyone who will watch it even been born yet? No.

There will always be new people who haven't seen something. Always. Don't be that insufferable prick that assumes the ephemeral 'everybody' has already seen something. Because it will never be the case.

I think what he means is that the Empire twist has become so ingrained with pop culture that it's nearly impossible to watch it blind without having been exposed to it through osmosis.

I know what he means. but if, as you say, it's nearly impossible to watch it blind, then that means it's still possible. And therefore, don't be a spoiling prick.

Squilookle:

Casual Shinji:

Squilookle:

Has everybody who will watch the movie done so by this moment in time? No. Has everyone who will watch it even been born yet? No.

There will always be new people who haven't seen something. Always. Don't be that insufferable prick that assumes the ephemeral 'everybody' has already seen something. Because it will never be the case.

I think what he means is that the Empire twist has become so ingrained with pop culture that it's nearly impossible to watch it blind without having been exposed to it through osmosis.

I know what he means. but if, as you say, it's nearly impossible to watch it blind, then that means it's still possible. And therefore, don't be a spoiling prick.

Its only possible for the newly born children or people who lives in a backwater to watch that movie blind or those that are merely that lucky and disinterested in Star Wars. All I am saying is Star Wars is everwhere in pop culture and mainstream society and with it that ultimate spoiler.

And don't call me a prick. Because I haven't spoiled anything else other then this.

Squilookle:

PsychedelicDiamond:
Is it really still possible to watch Empire Strikes Back without knowing the twist?

Has everybody who will watch the movie done so by this moment in time? No. Has everyone who will watch it even been born yet? No.

There will always be new people who haven't seen something. Always. Don't be that insufferable prick that assumes the ephemeral 'everybody' has already seen something. Because it will never be the case.

(Not saying you're an insufferable prick. Just saying don't be that insufferable prick. Nobody wants to be an insufferable prick)

Well, yes, but I knew the twist to Empire Strikes Back before I've even seen a single Star Wars movie. It's just something that comes up in a lot of entirely unrelated stuff.

Playdead's INSIDE. A big part of this brilliant title's appeal is how it starts off with a sense of unease and intrigue that gradually but assuredly spirals into absurd surreality that begs the player's constant questioning. Spoiling any moment I feel diminishes its impact in the context of the game. I recommend it to everyone and tell none of them why.

Samtemdo8:
Infinity War Thanos Snap

Gamora spoiled that in the trailer.

CrazyGirl17:

*Undertale

To Toby Fox's credit, you have to reveal quite a lot in order to spoil all the surprises in Undertale.

I usually try to avoid spoilers because I don't want to be disappointed even before the film or whatever starts but rather during it.

PsychedelicDiamond:

Squilookle:

PsychedelicDiamond:
Is it really still possible to watch Empire Strikes Back without knowing the twist?

Has everybody who will watch the movie done so by this moment in time? No. Has everyone who will watch it even been born yet? No.

There will always be new people who haven't seen something. Always. Don't be that insufferable prick that assumes the ephemeral 'everybody' has already seen something. Because it will never be the case.

(Not saying you're an insufferable prick. Just saying don't be that insufferable prick. Nobody wants to be an insufferable prick)

Well, yes, but I knew the twist to Empire Strikes Back before I've even seen a single Star Wars movie. It's just something that comes up in a lot of entirely unrelated stuff.

But if you only saw it through parodies and such, not the film itself, would you even know you'd had it spoiled? Surely it would be more a case of "so that's where that comes from!"

Seanchaidh:

Agema:
The older I've got, the less I've cared about spoilers. In fact, at some point probably about 5-10 years ago I even started occasionally reading the end of a book after I'd got about a third of the way through.

I'm not sure why I started doing this. Is it a habit from reading scientific papers? You flick through the abstract, intro, then go to the conclusions and read the rest of the paper (i.e. the methods, results and discussion) only if you feel the need the extra detail. I wonder if it's from reading too many predictable stories (peasant who's actually king blah magic sword blah dark lord blah), yeah, you already know the end - like ancient Greek tragedy, where everyone in the audience knew the story and its end, it was just about how that version got there.

I'm not sure I've ever really cared about spoilers. If I have, I stopped at some point, though. Knowing what's going to happen doesn't diminish the impact of a story for me. I guess I'm just not terribly impressed by surprise and suspense is either independent of knowing what will happen or isn't important to me. I guess as someone who writes things it's really present for me that what I'm looking at when I'm reading or watching fiction is a collection of choices made by someone (or a group of people) and that the paths not taken are potentially just as or more interesting to consider. So while some people might take pleasure from suspense, I can derive satisfaction from imagining what didn't happen (and the possibility that it could have) even while I know what did happen.

That being said, a first viewing is more likely to provoke laughter at particularly clever plot twists.

I dare say there might also be a bit of inoculation going on. What's the point of caring about spoilers when someone gains pleasure from spoiling it? You're just giving them power over you. The best way to defeat this is to stop caring and that hurts these guys more

Sleep Away Camp

Evil Within (the back of box does give you a clue, but most would not pay attention.)

Devil May Cry 1 and 5

F.E.A.R 1 & 2

Us

The Running Man (Novel)

Samtemdo8:

Squilookle:

Casual Shinji:
I think what he means is that the Empire twist has become so ingrained with pop culture that it's nearly impossible to watch it blind without having been exposed to it through osmosis.

I know what he means. but if, as you say, it's nearly impossible to watch it blind, then that means it's still possible. And therefore, don't be a spoiling prick.

Its only possible for the newly born children or people who lives in a backwater to watch that movie blind or those that are merely that lucky and disinterested in Star Wars. All I am saying is Star Wars is everwhere in pop culture and mainstream society and with it that ultimate spoiler.

PsychedelicDiamond:

Squilookle:

PsychedelicDiamond:
Is it really still possible to watch Empire Strikes Back without knowing the twist?

Has everybody who will watch the movie done so by this moment in time? No. Has everyone who will watch it even been born yet? No.

There will always be new people who haven't seen something. Always. Don't be that insufferable prick that assumes the ephemeral 'everybody' has already seen something. Because it will never be the case.

(Not saying you're an insufferable prick. Just saying don't be that insufferable prick. Nobody wants to be an insufferable prick)

Well, yes, but I knew the twist to Empire Strikes Back before I've even seen a single Star Wars movie. It's just something that comes up in a lot of entirely unrelated stuff.

Ah, so everybody has the same experience as you, around the whole world, no matter what their age, even if they haven't been born yet, therefore it's fine to spoil something?

Grow up.

Squilookle:

Samtemdo8:

Squilookle:

I know what he means. but if, as you say, it's nearly impossible to watch it blind, then that means it's still possible. And therefore, don't be a spoiling prick.

Its only possible for the newly born children or people who lives in a backwater to watch that movie blind or those that are merely that lucky and disinterested in Star Wars. All I am saying is Star Wars is everwhere in pop culture and mainstream society and with it that ultimate spoiler.

PsychedelicDiamond:

Squilookle:

Has everybody who will watch the movie done so by this moment in time? No. Has everyone who will watch it even been born yet? No.

There will always be new people who haven't seen something. Always. Don't be that insufferable prick that assumes the ephemeral 'everybody' has already seen something. Because it will never be the case.

(Not saying you're an insufferable prick. Just saying don't be that insufferable prick. Nobody wants to be an insufferable prick)

Well, yes, but I knew the twist to Empire Strikes Back before I've even seen a single Star Wars movie. It's just something that comes up in a lot of entirely unrelated stuff.

Ah, so everybody has the same experience as you, around the whole world, no matter what their age, even if they haven't been born yet, therefore it's fine to spoil something?

Grow up.

You are telling me to grow up over a spoiler? I think you should grow up for taking seriously what is ultimately a trivial discussion.

Samtemdo8:

Squilookle:

Ah, so everybody has the same experience as you, around the whole world, no matter what their age, even if they haven't been born yet, therefore it's fine to spoil something?

Grow up.

You are telling me to grow up over a spoiler? I think you should grow up for taking seriously what is ultimately a trivial discussion.

It's not this spoiler or that spoiler. It's the attitude to spoilers in general, having the arrogance to think everyone has encountered one already, thinking it's open season just because you know one already. It's incredibly childish, yes.

Cabin in the woods
Arlington Road
Donnie Darko
Frailty

trunkage:

Seanchaidh:

Agema:
The older I've got, the less I've cared about spoilers. In fact, at some point probably about 5-10 years ago I even started occasionally reading the end of a book after I'd got about a third of the way through.

I'm not sure why I started doing this. Is it a habit from reading scientific papers? You flick through the abstract, intro, then go to the conclusions and read the rest of the paper (i.e. the methods, results and discussion) only if you feel the need the extra detail. I wonder if it's from reading too many predictable stories (peasant who's actually king blah magic sword blah dark lord blah), yeah, you already know the end - like ancient Greek tragedy, where everyone in the audience knew the story and its end, it was just about how that version got there.

I'm not sure I've ever really cared about spoilers. If I have, I stopped at some point, though. Knowing what's going to happen doesn't diminish the impact of a story for me. I guess I'm just not terribly impressed by surprise and suspense is either independent of knowing what will happen or isn't important to me. I guess as someone who writes things it's really present for me that what I'm looking at when I'm reading or watching fiction is a collection of choices made by someone (or a group of people) and that the paths not taken are potentially just as or more interesting to consider. So while some people might take pleasure from suspense, I can derive satisfaction from imagining what didn't happen (and the possibility that it could have) even while I know what did happen.

That being said, a first viewing is more likely to provoke laughter at particularly clever plot twists.

I dare say there might also be a bit of inoculation going on. What's the point of caring about spoilers when someone gains pleasure from spoiling it? You're just giving them power over you. The best way to defeat this is to stop caring and that hurts these guys more

I suppose that's true. Although in my case, mostly I've just felt slight annoyance at people going out of their way to avoid spoiling things for me.

Casual Shinji:
I think what he means is that the Empire twist has become so ingrained with pop culture that it's nearly impossible to watch it blind without having been exposed to it through osmosis.

Absolutely. Everyone knows the butler did it.

 

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