[POLITICS] Incident in Canada regarding a transgender woman sueing for not getting a brazilian wax.

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CaitSeith:

You're going to need more sources than just a video to make those accusations stick...

Here's the pool, and here's some the grooming, with the bits of trying to send CP to a minor. And this for the bonus round. Other sources from others in the thread also confirm the predatory pattern of seeking out places to go to for getting a nut wax, then suing and getting them shut down when they deny service. This is not a good person at all.

Baffle2:
Fucking hell, had someone copyrighted waxer?

They don't just provide waxing services, but skin care services in general. Facials, chemical peels, scrubs, lasering, etc. Some estheticians may only do waxing services, but they're still estheticians.

Baffle2:

Fucking hell, had someone copyrighted waxer?

Ever heard Beautician? It's a more expansive type thing than just waxing. Never heard esthetician previously myself, but it's the same thing.

That word stems from the Greek word for the 5 senses so I guess they were going for a job description about making something more pleasing to the senses lol.

Leg End:

CaitSeith:

You're going to need more sources than just a video to make those accusations stick...

Here's the pool, and here's some the grooming, with the bits of trying to send CP to a minor. And this for the bonus round. Other sources from others in the thread also confirm the predatory pattern of seeking out places to go to for getting a nut wax, then suing and getting them shut down when they deny service. This is not a good person at all.

She doesn't have to be a good person to be in the right. However...

Leg End:

CaitSeith:

You're going to need more sources than just a video to make those accusations stick...

Here's the pool, and here's some the grooming, with the bits of trying to send CP to a minor. And this for the bonus round. Other sources from others in the thread also confirm the predatory pattern of seeking out places to go to for getting a nut wax, then suing and getting them shut down when they deny service. This is not a good person at all.

Trump is a pedophile, but you voted for them. I wont vote for this person to be President if they run.

People in glass houses owned by Trump's good friend Jeffrey Epstein should not throw stones.

Silentpony:

Saelune:
Waxing may not be on the importance of medical care, but if someone trained in medical care refused to do their job cause 'ew a penis', I would hope they get fired.

LilDevils, I think I know why you are bothered by this, that you are coming from a good place when you disagree with me on this. I think your motives are fine, but you are miss perceiving my point. CM156, I think you are genuinely debating me. I think the rest are arguing in bad faith, making baseless claims and letting their own biases of me make it impossible to see my point.

To be fair couldn't they say the same about you? That you're letting your trans identity blind you to this person's predatory behavior? If the allegations are true, this woman is trying to organize a pre-teen topless swimming party where specifically no other adults are allowed, and goes around in women's changing rooms asking little girls if they need help putting a tampon in, and has sued 16 different salons for discrimination, and have called the immigrants who work there dirty and unclean.
I'm pretty sure that's not normal transgender behavior.

This woman is basically a millennial Jeffrey Epstein in Canada

Does them being a pedophile change the issue here? If they were not a pedophile, would my stance carry more weight?

I think men, women, transmen and transwomen should be able to reliably get their whole bodies waxed at wax salons. I do not think pedophiles of any sex or gender or orientation should be able to victimize children or be politicians.

You and Leg End are resorting to ad hominids.

Saelune:
Trump is a pedophile, but you voted for them. I wont vote for this person to be President if they run.

No, no Trump here. No baseless accusations against Donnie to deflect from the allegations that actually have merit against this sick fuck.

Saelune:

I think men, women, transmen and transwomen should be able to reliably get their whole bodies waxed at wax salons.

I think what a person does at their business regarding nude bodies and possible required manipulation of genitals is their business. In this case, we have an actual sick bastard targeting minorities and going for businesses that won't wax nuts, then sues for money and attention. Apparently at other locations, they have offered for other workers to handle this specific case, but it was refused. This is such a terrible and outright dangerous case for the community to defend in any way because this bastard is the embodiment of the trans bogeyman with bathrooms and garbage that people scream about. There is a very real likelihood this fucker is not even remotely trans and has just taken the community as a shield so he can walk into bathrooms and photograph young girls. I certainly don't fucking believe it.

You and Leg End are resorting to ad hominids.

The phrase is Ad Hominem, and no. We're simply pointing out your potential hypocrisy, and the issue with arguing on this case, when the person involved is such a shitbag. This is going to set back trans rights decades if we allow it.

Leg End:

Saelune:
Trump is a pedophile, but you voted for them. I wont vote for this person to be President if they run.

No, no Trump here. No baseless accusations against Donnie to deflect from the allegations that actually have merit against this sick fuck.

Saelune:

I think men, women, transmen and transwomen should be able to reliably get their whole bodies waxed at wax salons.

I think what a person does at their business regarding nude bodies and possible required manipulation of genitals is their business. In this case, we have an actual sick bastard targeting minorities and going for businesses that won't wax nuts, then sues for money and attention. Apparently at other locations, they have offered for other workers to handle this specific case, but it was refused. This is such a terrible and outright dangerous case for the community to defend in any way because this bastard is the embodiment of the trans bogeyman with bathrooms and garbage that people scream about. There is a very real chance this fucker is not even remotely trans and has just taken the community as a shield so he can walk into bathrooms and photograph young girls. I certainly don't fucking believe it.

You and Leg End are resorting to ad hominids.

The phrase is Ad Hominem, and no. We're simply pointing out your potential hypocrisy, and the issue with arguing on this case, when the person involved is such a shitbag. This is going to set back trans rights decades if we allow it.

So you can deflect, but I cant? You can defend a pedophile, but only I can be condemned for it when I am not even defending a pedophile?

I believe the term here is hypocrite.

You are being rather blatant here.

This is Awesome, can't wait til they start turning up for smear tests.

Saelune:
So you can deflect, but I cant? You can defend a pedophile,

When there is actual, proper evidence that suggests such, I'll give some thought to if that's the case.

but only I can be condemned for it when I am not even defending a pedophile?

This slime is arguably the real core of the subject, because they are using trans rights as a shield in all of this. Your support of forcing someone to manipulate genitals or lose their job or business is not helping this matter. Businesses are being specifically targeted. This is a fucking cash payday. Do you support these businesses paying this bastard to stay alive or possibly fold? Do you support lawsuits against businesses that will only work with specific anatomy, or can only work with specific anatomy?

CaitSeith:
She doesn't have to be a good person to be in the right.

You're absolutely right. I think Jessica Yaniv should have the completely unfettered right to harass migrant women of color and target them for lawfare, for the God-given right to have her nads professionally deep fried.

You people seriously never listen do you. What part of the phrase "third-degree genital burns" do you not understand? EDIT: let me make this a little clearer.

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Saelune:

Leg End:

CaitSeith:

You're going to need more sources than just a video to make those accusations stick...

Here's the pool, and here's some the grooming, with the bits of trying to send CP to a minor. And this for the bonus round. Other sources from others in the thread also confirm the predatory pattern of seeking out places to go to for getting a nut wax, then suing and getting them shut down when they deny service. This is not a good person at all.

Trump is a pedophile, but you voted for them. I wont vote for this person to be President if they run.

People in glass houses owned by Trump's good friend Jeffrey Epstein should not throw stones.

Excellent deflection. You still have not made it clear what your stance is on women being forced to touch penises they don't want to touch. And yes, saying "if you don't want to touch this penis you can find a new job" is forcing her to do it. Her job is her livelihood, and most people don't have the luxury of quitting their job whenever they want.

I wonder what your response would be if a cisgendered male tried to have a female esthetician perform services on him against her will and then demanded that she be fired if she refused.

Dirty Hipsters:

Saelune:

Leg End:
Here's the pool, and here's some the grooming, with the bits of trying to send CP to a minor. And this for the bonus round. Other sources from others in the thread also confirm the predatory pattern of seeking out places to go to for getting a nut wax, then suing and getting them shut down when they deny service. This is not a good person at all.

Trump is a pedophile, but you voted for them. I wont vote for this person to be President if they run.

People in glass houses owned by Trump's good friend Jeffrey Epstein should not throw stones.

Excellent deflection. You still have not made it clear what your stance is on women being forced to touch penises they don't want to touch. And yes, saying "if you don't want to touch this penis you can find a new job" is forcing her to do it. Her job is her livelihood, and most people don't have the luxury of quitting their job whenever they want.

I wonder what your response would be if a cisgendered male tried to have a female esthetician perform services on him against her will and then demanded that she be fired if she refused.

I am aware I am very easily goaded. I am trying a new method where I try to not be so goadable. If you and Leg End are going to resort to the methods you have, then I am not going to waste my time and patience. If Devils or even CM156 want to continue to debate me, they are welcome to, they have not been twisting my words blatantly like you two.

Saelune:

Dirty Hipsters:

Saelune:
Trump is a pedophile, but you voted for them. I wont vote for this person to be President if they run.

People in glass houses owned by Trump's good friend Jeffrey Epstein should not throw stones.

Excellent deflection. You still have not made it clear what your stance is on women being forced to touch penises they don't want to touch. And yes, saying "if you don't want to touch this penis you can find a new job" is forcing her to do it. Her job is her livelihood, and most people don't have the luxury of quitting their job whenever they want.

I wonder what your response would be if a cisgendered male tried to have a female esthetician perform services on him against her will and then demanded that she be fired if she refused.

I am aware I am very easily goaded. I am trying a new method where I try to not be so goadable. If you and Leg End are going to resort to the methods you have, then I am not going to waste my time and patience. If Devils or even CM156 want to continue to debate me, they are welcome to, they have not been twisting my words blatantly like you two.

I haven't twisted anything you said. All I've done is re-contextualized your exact words to a scenario that has nothing to do with "trans-rights" in order to show you that everything you've said in this threat is incredibly messed up.

Literally everyone in this thread disagrees with you, even the people you consider to be "allies" because you're wrong, but you continue doubling down because you can't see how absolutely absurd your claim is.

Remember, I'm not the one who said that women find penises attractive and should therefore have no problem touching them, you did. I'm also not the one who said that this woman should have to give a "legitimate reason" for not touching a penis, you did.

Now I have invited you multiple times to explain why you think women should be forced to touch penises they don't want to touch. That is clearly your stance with this woman and this penis, and you have done nothing to deny that this is your stance.

Eacaraxe:
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OK so is there like... a template website or something where you can make your own versions of that with whatever text you choose? Because if so I've gotta get in on that shiz.

Squilookle:

OK so is there like... a template website or something where you can make your own versions of that with whatever text you choose? Because if so I've gotta get in on that shiz.

Knock yourself out, famalam.

Dirty Hipsters:

Remember, I'm not the one who said that women find penises attractive and should therefore have no problem touching them, you did. I'm also not the one who said that this woman should have to give a "legitimate reason" for not touching a penis, you did.

I didn't say these things either, which is my point. Oh, I do know what I said that you're referring to, but that you are translating it into this is why I know you're not arguing in good faith.

Literally everyone? That is objectively not true. Mostly it is LilDevils who disagrees with me who is otherwise on my side, and she still is. That's the thing, people on the same side can disagree. No, she is not a Nazi for disagreeing with me by the way. I understand her concerns that motivate her disagreement though, women have a rather shit deal in life and I don't blame her for being concerned about the implications with this case. Really I think our disagreement though comes more from a misunderstanding than a full on opposing view point though.

Leg End:

Squilookle:

OK so is there like... a template website or something where you can make your own versions of that with whatever text you choose? Because if so I've gotta get in on that shiz.

Knock yourself out, famalam.

Sweet- cheers for that amigo

Leg End:

Saelune:
So you can deflect, but I cant? You can defend a pedophile,

When there is actual, proper evidence that suggests such, I'll give some thought to if that's the case.

but only I can be condemned for it when I am not even defending a pedophile?

This slime is arguably the real core of the subject, because they are using trans rights as a shield in all of this. Your support of forcing someone to manipulate genitals or lose their job or business is not helping this matter. Businesses are being specifically targeted. This is a fucking cash payday. Do you support these businesses paying this bastard to stay alive or possibly fold? Do you support lawsuits against businesses that will only work with specific anatomy, or can only work with specific anatomy?

Precedents work both ways, and don't care how "deserving" the original precedent was.

This is roughly the equivalent of that dude that sues everyplace with a "girls night out" or a "ladies drink free" night. Whether or not he's a terrible person has no actual bearing on the case.

And you've tried making ad hominem attacks for 3 pages now. It's a logical fallacy for a reason. This gal being apparently terrible has no bearing on the case. You constantly hammering at it makes your case look bigoted instead of rational.

Stop. Just...stop.

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