[Politics, I guess] Jeffrey Epstein found dead in his cell under mysterious circumstance.

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Investment banker and child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, arrested for countless cases of child rape and sex trafficking, was found dead in his cell in New York, allegedly having commited suicide. After having been placed under suicide watch. Funny how that worked out. Well, it seems like Epstein wilk take many a secret to his grave and the real dimensions of his involvement in organised crime may never be known.

Isn't it great how capitalism and an allegedly equal Justice System complement each other? May God have mercy on us.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49306032

Epstein's ability to kill himself while on suicide watch shows us that the rich really are just more capable than everyone else.

I've heard it was (Bill) Clinton, I've heard it was Trump... let's be honest: they both and many others had plenty of reason to want that guy dead. But probably earlier, you would think.

Seanchaidh:
Epstein's ability to kill himself while on suicide watch shows us that the rich really are just more capable than everyone else.

Don't forget the world's most inconvenient security camera failure. Can't forget that.

I've heard it was (Bill) Clinton, I've heard it was Trump... let's be honest: they both and many others had plenty of reason to want that guy dead. But probably earlier, you would think.

American politics has reached a point where both sides are arguing about who has the worst accused pedos, and playing hot potato with a billionaire international sex trafficker. Just consider that.

PsychedelicDiamond:
Investment banker and child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, arrested for countless cases of child rape and sex trafficking, was found dead in his cell in New York, allegedly having commited suicide. After having been placed under suicide watch. Funny how that worked out. Well, it seems like Epstein wilk take many a secret to his grave and the real dimensions of his involvement in organised crime may never be known.

Isn't it great how capitalism and an allegedly equal Justice System complement each other? May God have mercy on us.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49306032

He killed himself because they took all of his shit. He was done and he knew it. And since it was his property that was seized, he was the only one who could potentially contest to the use of evidence found on his estate. The only way to bury this story would be to bury the evidence as well. But if that was an option, they simply wouldn't have moved against Epstein in the first place. This is still ongoing, and everyone who was in on it is very much fucked now that Epstein is dead.

Another point: Nobody sane would attempt to bury this in an age of whistleblowers. It's better to let even the most powerful people fall for this than to potentially be implicated in a cover-up of a pedophile ring.

As for Trump, I told you like a year ago or more that there's a tape of Trump raping and killing an underage girl. Pretty much every intel agency in Europe is aware of that. And Epstein might have had it. Russians most certainly did.

Seems a bit fishy to me. What did he do to ostensibly kill himself under suicide watch? Fact remains that without him ever facing trial he takes a lot of shit from very powerful people right to the grave. No doubt his autopsy is gonna be 'classified' as well.

stroopwafel:
What did he do to ostensibly kill himself under suicide watch?

In the UK I think suicide watch means you get checked every 15 minutes, which is presumably enough time to dee it.

Adam Jensen:
Another point: Nobody sane would attempt to bury this in an age of whistleblowers. It's better to let even the most powerful people fall for this than to potentially be implicated in a cover-up of a pedophile ring.

Cover up, shmover up. If I were a PR/ad man for an international reptilian (in either the alien sense, or as a moral judgment) sociopolitical elite conspiracy, the last fucking thing I'd do is try to cover anything up. I'd astroturf the fuck out of it by paying trolls, shills, and botnets to push the absolute craziest shit imaginable, to get the whole shebang discredited by association.

I mean, look at 9/11. You can't even talk about how the Bush administration ignored years' worth of work by intelligence and law enforcement agencies pointing to the imminent risk of a large-scale, coordinated suicide attack by bin Laden, weaponizing hijacked aircraft to destroy major US landmarks. Culminating in a(n ignored) presidential daily brief published and delivered 6 August, 2001, literally titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US", that specifically cited activity patterns consistent with planned hijackings, and his decade-long intent to destroy the World Trade Center, that has been declassified and part of public record up to and including the actual 9/11 Commission report. That there's crazy talk, you might as well be babbling about the Mossad, Hollywood, thermite, and Antichrist.

This is just me, but it really makes you wonder about the QAnon and Pizzagate shit in retrospect.

Shit, that's a damn shame. The good always die young.

Baffle2:

stroopwafel:
What did he do to ostensibly kill himself under suicide watch?

In the UK I think suicide watch means you get checked every 15 minutes, which is presumably enough time to dee it.

Yeah, but I assume they take every method for potential suicide out of his cell, in addition espescially with someone that high-profile don't you think the authorities would be extra vigilant? Just seem very 'convenient' that he now never faces trial.

Eacaraxe:

I mean, look at 9/11. You can't even talk about how the Bush administration ignored years' worth of work by intelligence and law enforcement agencies pointing to the imminent risk of a large-scale, coordinated suicide attack by bin Laden, weaponizing hijacked aircraft to destroy major US landmarks. Culminating in a(n ignored) presidential daily brief published and delivered 6 August, 2001, literally titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US", that specifically cited activity patterns consistent with planned hijackings, and his decade-long intent to destroy the World Trade Center, that has been declassified and part of public record up to and including the actual 9/11 Commission report. That there's crazy talk, you might as well be babbling about the Mossad, Hollywood, thermite, and Antichrist.

That already had a long prelude during the Clinton years. Espescially preceding the Nairobi and Tanzania embassy bombings. At one point special forces even had Bin-Laden in their crosshairs but the attack was called off as Clinton feared Pentagon lawyers interpreting it as an assassination.

You should read 'Against All Enemies' by Richard A. Clarke who was the anti-terrorism czar under Clinton and also served under Bush. It's really quite disquieting to read how these tragedies were misused to serve different agendas.

stroopwafel:

Yeah, but I assume they take every method for potential suicide out of his cell, in addition espescially with someone that high-profile don't you think the authorities would be extra vigilant? Just seem very 'convenient' that he now never faces trial.

If they let him keep his teeth ...

Well when you're the guy who sold Melannia to Donald and have dirt on basically every billionaire and world leader of the past 40 years, I'm guessing you don't get your day in court

lol he became an hero. We are going to get months of shaky news and conspiracy theories out of this one.

Damn it I wanted him to implicate lots of rich people.

Gergar12:
Damn it I wanted him to implicate lots of rich people.

More people will speak up now that he's dead. Lots of files are being released now or something.

Marik2:

Gergar12:
Damn it I wanted him to implicate lots of rich people.

More people will speak up now that he's dead. Lots of files are being released now or something.

I feel like its going to be the opposite. Now that he's out of the way it'll all just be swept under the rug.

"The man is dead, I think we can move on" will be on Fox news within the week.

Marik2:
lol he became an hero. We are going to get months of shaky news and conspiracy theories out of this one.

Pedo-man has a certain ring to it. Not a good one, obviously.

Baffle2:

Marik2:
lol he became an hero. We are going to get months of shaky news and conspiracy theories out of this one.

Pedo-man has a certain ring to it. Not a good one, obviously.

I'd go with Molestro personally.

I wouldn't put it past him to off himself considering everything coming out, but I can't feel that we should be watching what happens to his evidence in the coming months...

Everyone's asking how a rich guy could kill theirselves on suicide watch but you just need to bribe the guards into helping you. Since pedos are so hated a lot of people would jump at the chance. Or maybe it was murder but there's a lot of parents with motive it didn't have to be a cover up.

While the body's still warm, have a Hard Drive's take:
https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/1160247103127543808

(This is still a gaming site forum, isn't it?)

I keep hearing about the cameras stopped working conveniently when the suicide happened, but I can't find any news source.

Seanchaidh:
Epstein's ability to kill himself while on suicide watch shows us that the rich really are just more capable than everyone else.

I've heard it was (Bill) Clinton, I've heard it was Trump... let's be honest: they both and many others had plenty of reason to want that guy dead. But probably earlier, you would think.

From what I hear the suicide watch was pulled almost two weeks ago. And I gotta say that my first thought was that someone killed him in an attempt to protect Trump (admitted bias there). I don't think the orange man himself ordered the hit, if he did he'd probably end up bragging about it, but I do think someone high up in the Trump administration would be capable of both ordering the murder and keeping quite about doing so.

It does seem rather suspicious... but if he was guilty, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for him.

MrCalavera:

(This is still a gaming site forum, isn't it?)

Nominally, yes, but ever since we got rid of the R&P section, people have been crowding this one with political crap...

Marik2:
I keep hearing about the cameras stopped working conveniently when the suicide happened, but I can't find any news source.

Haven't heard that, but wouldn't surprise me at all

...I'm not surprised in the least, but this makes me REAAAAAL suspicious.

I wonder if this was done to shut him up and that the biggest evidence will mysteriously vanish.

Silentpony:
I feel like its going to be the opposite. Now that he's out of the way it'll all just be swept under the rug.

"The man is dead, I think we can move on" will be on Fox news within the week.

This is my fear. I hope they nail everyone involved, whether it be trump, clinton, or anybody else.

The truth needs to out.

Marik2:
I keep hearing about the cameras stopped working conveniently when the suicide happened, but I can't find any news source.

Yeah, if that happens, I'll be pretty much convinced it was a hit job. >_>

twistedmic:
And I gotta say that my first thought was that someone killed him in an attempt to protect Trump (admitted bias there).

Trump, or the Clintons, or Prince Andrew, etc, etc, etc. Or maybe he really did commit suicide, but everyone I mentioned before is sleeping better tonight with him dead.

Clinton supporters - "Trump had him killed!"

Trump supporters - "The Clintons had him killed!"

Smart people - "The CIA killed him because they had been using him to gather blackmail on all of the rich super-elite and the moment he started talking it would have made those materials worthless for blackmailing purposes. Blackmail only works if people don't know about it."

I guess suicide watch means "watch him commit suicide" now lol.

But yeah, I'm sure if you're convinced you're going to jail for the rest of your life after having lived the megalomaniacal dream life for 60+ years killing yourself makes sense, I don't care much for all the conspiracies.

A weight off his mind...
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Marik2:
I keep hearing about the cameras stopped working conveniently when the suicide happened, but I can't find any news source.

Probably fake. I think he was no longer on suicide watch, so there shouldn't have been any cameras there.

MrCalavera:
While the body's still warm, have a Hard Drive's take:
https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/1160247103127543808

(This is still a gaming site forum, isn't it?)

They need to make this into a real mission. Obviously they'd have to change his name to something like Jessie Stein or something.

CrazyGirl17:
It does seem rather suspicious... but if he was guilty, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for him.

MrCalavera:

(This is still a gaming site forum, isn't it?)

Nominally, yes, but ever since we got rid of the R&P section, people have been crowding this one with political crap...

Well, this right here has always been an Off Topic forum. The Gaming forum is over there.

I find it funny that right-wingers think we worship Bill Clinton. But then, many right-wingers often tell me how it surprises them how consistent I am in my views. Like, you know you don't HAVE to be a hypocrite, right?

If Bill is one of Epstein's pedo friends, he should go to jail too, along with Trump and whoever else.

Silentpony:

Marik2:

Gergar12:
Damn it I wanted him to implicate lots of rich people.

More people will speak up now that he's dead. Lots of files are being released now or something.

I feel like its going to be the opposite. Now that he's out of the way it'll all just be swept under the rug.

"The man is dead, I think we can move on" will be on Fox news within the week.

Like it would be the first time they had documents "lost" or destroyed or as it that is difficult to do or something. Yea I am going to be guessing there is enough money, connections and resources behind not having documents found to make that a reality considering the sheer amount of wealth of those involved with Epstein. If they cannot use their hoards of wealth to make some paper disappear, what do they have it for anyways right?

Saelune:
I find it funny that right-wingers think we worship Bill Clinton. But then, many right-wingers often tell me how it surprises them how consistent I am in my views. Like, you know you don't HAVE to be a hypocrite, right?

If Bill is one of Epstein's pedo friends, he should go to jail too, along with Trump and whoever else.

They should, but you and I both know they won't.

Dirty Hipsters:
Clinton supporters - "Trump had him killed!"

Trump supporters - "The Clintons had him killed!"

Smart people - "The CIA killed him because they had been using him to gather blackmail on all of the rich super-elite and the moment he started talking it would have made those materials worthless for blackmailing purposes. Blackmail only works if people don't know about it."

Smart people might think that they both did it together. They both travel in the same circles

trunkage:

Dirty Hipsters:
Clinton supporters - "Trump had him killed!"

Trump supporters - "The Clintons had him killed!"

Smart people - "The CIA killed him because they had been using him to gather blackmail on all of the rich super-elite and the moment he started talking it would have made those materials worthless for blackmailing purposes. Blackmail only works if people don't know about it."

Smart people might think that they both did it together. They both travel in the same circles

I'm a total non-believer when it comes to conspiracy theories but I don't find it out of the realm of possibilities if Epstein was indeed planted as an intelligence gathering resource as part of some special access program. His background is also pretty peculiar from math teacher with no college background to maintaining a hedge funds exclusively for billionaires out of nowhere(a very small, selected circle) and he only had one major client that was actually known. Epstein's former non-prosecution deal was also made possible with the U.S. attorney Alexander Acosta reeled in by 'someone above his pay grade' which Acosta confessed during a Trump confirmation hearing that Epstein was an intelligence asset. Epstein could have also been a double agent working for mossad as well. So it might as well be foreign intelligence responsible for his 'suicide'.

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