[Politics] Border Patrol arrest reports are full of lies

https://theintercept.com/2019/08/11/border-patrol-asylum-claim/

So this piece came out today (I advise you to read it) and it's just another example of why we need to reform our entire immigration system. It's absolutely fucked right down to the roots, and it needs to be torn up and replaced completely.

Like I have said so many times before, the US has been breaking the law for many years on asylum and everyone from KKK to Neo Nazis have infiltrated the US immigration system at all levels. Border patrol lie, steal, even murder people, and this has been getting much worse under Trump due to his willingness to encourage harsh treatment.

https://splinternews.com/video-shows-border-patrol-allegedly-running-over-native-1826867070
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/04/25/victims-confront-border-patrol-agent-who-allegedly-killed-texas-women/3569783002/
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trumps-border-patrol-chief-carla-provost-secret-racist-facebook-grou_n_5d39b7ebe4b004b6adbc1773
https://historicly.substack.com/p/confessions-of-a-border-patrol-agent
https://theintercept.com/2018/10/23/border-patrol-union-killing-free-speech-video/
https://theintercept.com/2019/07/05/border-patrol-facebook-group/
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2015/armed-neo-nazis-%E2%80%98helping%E2%80%99-us-border-patrol
https://www.stanfordlawreview.org/online/white-nationalism-as-immigration-policy/
https://tucson.com/news/local/fbi-arizona-border-patrol-agent-paid-smugglers-k-for-cocaine/article_b04b7558-1092-588a-ac05-89eadac4e191.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/12/us/politics/border-agency-employees-arrested.html

Yea it really is that bad. Trumps fast track deportations are not only unethical and a clear violation of US and international asylum law, they are also unconstitutional.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/aclu-files-federal-lawsuit-over-trump-administrations-fast-track-deportation-policies/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/06/26/president-trumps-misconceptions-about-immigration-courts-and-law/?noredirect=on
https://time.com/5626498/trump-asylum-rule-international-law/

We cant build a better system on rotten foundation, we need to start from the ground up, but we wont cause no one is willing to do what is needed.

Lil devils x:
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Your sources bias:

(OP)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias

(Yours)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/splinter/ = Left bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dallas-morning-news/ = Right-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/huffington-post/ = Left bias
Blog = Personal anecdote
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern-poverty-law-center/ = Left bias
School paper. Author founding Director of the Stanford Law School Immigrants' Rights Clinic = Conflict of interest.
451: Unavailable due to legal reasons, GDPR
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/time/ = Left-center bias

Vendor-Lazarus:

Lil devils x:
-snip-

Your sources bias:

(OP)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias

(Yours)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/splinter/ = Left bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dallas-morning-news/ = Right-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/huffington-post/ = Left bias
Blog = Personal anecdote
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern-poverty-law-center/ = Left bias
School paper. Author founding Director of the Stanford Law School Immigrants? Rights Clinic = Conflict of interest.
451: Unavailable due to legal reasons, GDPR
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/time/ = Left-center bias

What details were actually wrong?

Vendor-Lazarus:

Lil devils x:
-snip-

Your sources bias:

(OP)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias

(Yours)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/splinter/ = Left bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dallas-morning-news/ = Right-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/huffington-post/ = Left bias
Blog = Personal anecdote
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern-poverty-law-center/ = Left bias
School paper. Author founding Director of the Stanford Law School Immigrants? Rights Clinic = Conflict of interest.
451: Unavailable due to legal reasons, GDPR
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/time/ = Left-center bias

werent you banned?

Kwak:

What details were actually wrong?

I didn't say anything about details. You did.
I just posted relevant links to her list of links.

Marik2:

werent you banned?

..No?

Weren't you?

Vendor-Lazarus:

Kwak:

What details were actually wrong?

I didn't say anything about details. You did.
I just posted relevant links to her list of links.

Marik2:

werent you banned?

..No?

Weren't you?

All sources are bias, that is because humans write them and bias isn't inherently a bad thing. How is that actually relevant to what happened? We are talking about what is actually happening here, not blaming those reporting for being angry about it happening in the first place picking a side. Humans are not some unemotional robot, nor would we want them to be. In addition, anecdotes can also be considered "eye witness testimony" and are admissible as evidence in a court of law and have always been.

If you have an issue with what actually is stated here, address that, don't just holler "BIAS!!" and run off.

Vendor-Lazarus:
Your sources bias:

Accusing of bias is useless without identifying inaccuracy.

Agema:

Vendor-Lazarus:
Your sources bias:

Accusing of bias is useless without identifying inaccuracy.

Considering when you look at the factual reporting ratings and they are high, and all of these stories were covered by numerous highly ranked news organizations, bias is pretty irrelevant.

It isn't like we listed Breitbart, RT,National Review, Forbes or Fox news as a source, YIKES:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/rt-news/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/forbes/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-review/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/

At least they label it as propaganda/ fake news.

EDIT: In addition, the one source that I used that had a mixed rating (Splinter) because it is also known to post satire and are heavily sarcastic, it was posted on most major news organizations as well and had a video of Border patrol running over a Native American man on his reservation outside his home and driving off (hit and run):

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/392643-video-shows-border-patrol-car-hitting-native-american-man-and-driving-away
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/us/border-patrol-video-ohono-oodham-arizona.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paulo-remes-video-border-patrol-tohono-oodham-nation/

But yea the fact that border patrol would run someone over like that and just drive off regardless of what they think their citizenship status is pretty disturbing to say the least. They didn't even bother to stop and render aid to find out or call for help and left them to get to the hospital on their own.

Vendor-Lazarus:

Lil devils x:
-snip-

Your sources bias:

(OP)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias

(Yours)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/splinter/ = Left bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dallas-morning-news/ = Right-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/huffington-post/ = Left bias
Blog = Personal anecdote
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern-poverty-law-center/ = Left bias
School paper. Author founding Director of the Stanford Law School Immigrants? Rights Clinic = Conflict of interest.
451: Unavailable due to legal reasons, GDPR
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/time/ = Left-center bias

Facts have a left-wing bias.

Saelune:

Vendor-Lazarus:

Lil devils x:
-snip-

Your sources bias:

(OP)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias

(Yours)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/splinter/ = Left bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dallas-morning-news/ = Right-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/huffington-post/ = Left bias
Blog = Personal anecdote
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern-poverty-law-center/ = Left bias
School paper. Author founding Director of the Stanford Law School Immigrants? Rights Clinic = Conflict of interest.
451: Unavailable due to legal reasons, GDPR
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/time/ = Left-center bias

Facts have a left-wing bias.

No kidding. Even the most mainstream of the right wing media is " mixed" at best while most of it is flat out fake news/propaganda according to the Bias checker. Sadly so many people believe that nonsense to be true.

Lil devils x:

Saelune:
Facts have a left-wing bias.

No kidding. Even the most mainstream of the right wing media is " mixed" at best while most of it is flat out fake news/propaganda according to the Bias checker. Sadly so many people believe that nonsense to be true.

Right-wingers literally coined the phrase 'alternative facts'.

Lil devils x:

Saelune:

Facts have a left-wing bias.

No kidding. Even the most mainstream of the right wing media is " mixed" at best while most of it is flat out fake news/propaganda according to the Bias checker. Sadly so many people believe that nonsense to be true.

Facts (actual truths) cannot have a left- or right-wing bias. The left can have a facts bias (be more likely to be factual) and the right can have an untruths bias (more likely to be full of shit), which is my general perception, but facts in and of themselves, if they are actually facts, cannot be biased.

Saelune:

Vendor-Lazarus:

Lil devils x:
-snip-

Your sources bias:

(OP)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias

(Yours)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/splinter/ = Left bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/dallas-morning-news/ = Right-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/huffington-post/ = Left bias
Blog = Personal anecdote
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ = Left bias (again again)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern-poverty-law-center/ = Left bias
School paper. Author founding Director of the Stanford Law School Immigrants? Rights Clinic = Conflict of interest.
451: Unavailable due to legal reasons, GDPR
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbs-news/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/ = Left-center bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/time/ = Left-center bias

Facts have a left-wing bias.

The other issue is that if almost everything is Left bias, then maybe your measuring stick is wrong. What you think is 'centre' is actually right wing.

Baffle2:

Lil devils x:

Saelune:

Facts have a left-wing bias.

No kidding. Even the most mainstream of the right wing media is " mixed" at best while most of it is flat out fake news/propaganda according to the Bias checker. Sadly so many people believe that nonsense to be true.

Facts (actual truths) cannot have a left- or right-wing bias. The left can have a facts bias (be more likely to be factual) and the right can have an untruths bias (more likely to be full of shit), which is my general perception, but facts in and of themselves, if they are actually facts, cannot be biased.

Mostly just making a clever quip.

The point is, right-wingers lie all the time and the facts are rarely if ever on their side. Instead of siding with the facts and switching views, they instead try to lie and pretend that they are right, when they are not. Its like cutting off your toes to fit your foot in a shoe instead of just getting a shoe that actually fits.

 

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