Question for any furries still around.

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Ok, so I was going though an image archive of comics and I have to ask. What the fuck is up with all the vore? Like seriously, why all the fucken vore?

Vore and Inflation. The Whats Hot on Deviant art is either Anime/Ponies/Inflation/Vore or just straight up porn

It's the beauty on the inside that counts.

I'm the wrong person to ask here. I like a lot of furry art but I never saw the appeal of view either. I think the idea is that the inside of someone's mouth is kinda warm and moist like a vagina? I dunno.

Silentpony:
Vore and Inflation. The Whats Hot on Deviant art is either Anime/Ponies/Inflation/Vore or just straight up porn

Do you reckon people are into that because they've watched so much porn the normal stuff has become passe, or does it have a more inherent represention of some psychological quirk? I guess vore might be an extreme fantasy form of BDSM style thing.

Agema:

Silentpony:
Vore and Inflation. The Whats Hot on Deviant art is either Anime/Ponies/Inflation/Vore or just straight up porn

Do you reckon people are into that because they've watched so much porn the normal stuff has become passe, or does it have a more inherent represention of some psychological quirk? I guess vore might be an extreme fantasy form of BDSM style thing.

These rather crazy fantasies are likely the former and it seems to lead everyone to the same place eventually no matter where you started from. What people stick with could be a personality -- not forgetting neuro-a-typicality -- thing (hello, Freud).

Agema:

Silentpony:
Vore and Inflation. The Whats Hot on Deviant art is either Anime/Ponies/Inflation/Vore or just straight up porn

Do you reckon people are into that because they've watched so much porn the normal stuff has become passe, or does it have a more inherent represention of some psychological quirk? I guess vore might be an extreme fantasy form of BDSM style thing.

I'm gonna say the latter. Most people bored with "regular sex" aim for more intense stuff, that's still replicable in real life. Group sex, hard BDSM etc.
Not some bizarre fantasy about being wholly devoured in a reverse-birth manner.

Silentpony:
Vore and Inflation. The Whats Hot on Deviant art is either Anime/Ponies/Inflation/Vore or just straight up porn

Umm, no. There are anime and some ponies on it but I don't see any inflation or vore on it and certainly no straight up porn. Deviantart allows nudes but not straight up porn.

The wild success of Pacman should speak to the popularity of vore dating back at least to 1980.

MrCalavera:

Agema:

Silentpony:
Vore and Inflation. The Whats Hot on Deviant art is either Anime/Ponies/Inflation/Vore or just straight up porn

Do you reckon people are into that because they've watched so much porn the normal stuff has become passe, or does it have a more inherent represention of some psychological quirk? I guess vore might be an extreme fantasy form of BDSM style thing.

I'm gonna say the latter. Most people bored with "regular sex" aim for more intense stuff, that's still replicable in real life. Group sex, hard BDSM etc.
Not some bizarre fantasy about being wholly devoured in a reverse-birth manner.

But isn't there a line? A Rubicon Sex? Like I can understand a more intense sexual fetish, but some of these things are not sexual, or at least don't involve intercourse.

I guess it's a matter of weird taste? I'm not the biggest fan of vore, so I usually just ignore that kind of thing.

I guess maybe it's some kind of extreme fantasy domination/submission thing- I mean, how much more can you dominate someone than to consume them (or submit to someone than to let them do it)? I dunno, it was never my kind of "thing".

(Besides, I'm still waiting for someone to explain the appeal of guro to me.)

Drathnoxis:
The wild success of Pacman should speak to the popularity of vore dating back at least to 1980.

"If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Marcus Brigstocke

CrazyGirl17:
I guess it's a matter of weird taste? I'm not the biggest fan of vore, so I usually just ignore that kind of thing.

I hate it but usually I can just ignore it, but there was sooo much. It was fucken ridiculous and it didn't help that it was actually good artists drawing it and the thumb nails are just small enough that unless I was paying attention I had an annoying habit of clicking on them.

Silentpony:
But isn't there a line? A Rubicon Sex? Like I can understand a more intense sexual fetish, but some of these things are not sexual, or at least don't involve intercourse.

They might not involve intercourse, but they're definitely sexual.

Shot in the dark here: You said that this was an image archive. Was this a "post your own art" style image archive or was it a "if you have it on your computer, post it" style archive? If the latter, could it be that a vorarephiliac simply uploaded their stash, thereby creating a higher concentration of vore among the new posts when you were browsing?

I don't get the vore stuff either, as I'm not into it myself. It's also very easy to stay away from. I've basically only seen it in one place. Maybe two. Well, one type of place, and one actual place.
Now, what bugs me is the Zeppelin-sized lactose-producing organs protected by fat deposits on almost each an every freaking female character you come across.. There's no justice in that.

Asita:
Shot in the dark here: You said that this was an image archive. Was this a "post your own art" style image archive or was it a "if you have it on your computer, post it" style archive? If the latter, could it be that a vorarephiliac simply uploaded their stash, thereby creating a higher concentration of vore among the new posts when you were browsing?

I think it was a post if you have it on your computer type site. I was just browsing through everything with the comic tag since I don't think there was a way to exclude tags on it. I went through 750 pages over the course of this just looking for anything neat, but it was all based on upload time I suppose so that is a possibility, I did notice that there were times when almost none showed up and other times when there was way too much. Either way, I'm glad I'm done with it since that was too much of a damn mine field, never doing it again.

I'd guess the reason there is so much crossover with furries and other bizarre fetishes is the infrastructure. I'm obviously just speculating as I doubt there is a whole lot of data available on it, but it seems like furry art is where the money is for those artists willing to draw porn. It probably gives them the biggest pool to draw from to cross furry stuff with other niche fetishes. If your kink involves depicting something that doesn't exist or can't realistically be performed it seems like the furries would be the easiest people to go to to find someone able and willing to draw that for you. That's basically what the entire community is built around.

I guess it could also just be chalked up to escalation as people in these groups watch more and more pornography and eventually become desensitized to the "vanilla" stuff

you should have asked lunatic when he was still around

The Rogue Wolf:

"If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Marcus Brigstocke

Isn't that exactly what a rave is?

While there are still many furry artists that draw what you'd imagine as "normal" art for the type, the reason you're seeing so much vore and stuff is because the internet is forever and the cumulative over saturation of those markets means to make any money in them, you have to be a big name. Not so when you start getting down into the niche fetishes where there isn't as much art and thus getting known and getting paid is far easier. That being said, it's really only a handful of people propping up that market as they have specific characters they get drawn. It's also why you're seeing more of it now, the archive dumps simply have more people buying it, so it's getting drawn more right now flooding the pipes.

You can almost delve back into what was being made to see what was niche and paying at any time.

I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Adam Jensen:
I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

People being eaten by giants. Or, sometimes, inserted/swallowed into... other orifices.

Weird stuff.

Adam Jensen:
I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

Kwak:

Adam Jensen:
I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

That last part isn't a type of vore, macrophilia and microphilia are completely separate fetishes involving an enjoyment of those much larger/smaller than you. And has plenty of its OWN types of connections to other fetishes. If you want other types of vore you'd want things like c*** vore or a*** vore, which is the same as normal vore but through those other orifices.

The internet is WEIRD.

As for why you found so much vore on an image sharing site (Random guess here, was it e621?) well... possible a person was uploading a bunch at that time. It's not that it's "So much" vore, so much as that's probably the thing that's often referenced when people talk about "Dude look at all this weird shit". Kinda like how Pregnancy got linked to the Sonic Fandom (And bad sonic self-insert fanfiction). Or how Tentacles got linked to Anime. There's always something.

And yes, I AM a furry. No, vore ain't my thing (Though I know a few who are into it, or similar things).

Chessrook44:

Kwak:

Adam Jensen:
I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

That last part isn't a type of vore, macrophilia and microphilia are completely separate fetishes involving an enjoyment of those much larger/smaller than you. And has plenty of its OWN types of connections to other fetishes. If you want other types of vore you'd want things like c*** vore or a*** vore, which is the same as normal vore but through those other orifices.

The internet is WEIRD.

As for why you found so much vore on an image sharing site (Random guess here, was it e621?) well... possible a person was uploading a bunch at that time. It's not that it's "So much" vore, so much as that's probably the thing that's often referenced when people talk about "Dude look at all this weird shit". Kinda like how Pregnancy got linked to the Sonic Fandom (And bad sonic self-insert fanfiction). Or how Tentacles got linked to Anime. There's always something.

And yes, I AM a furry. No, vore ain't my thing (Though I know a few who are into it, or similar things).

Yeah it was e621. I knew vore was a thing but holy shit, so much of it with the comic tag, that might be because they seem to mostly be groups of pics together which would fit under the comic tag so that was probably impacting things a lot. Still though, way way too much of it, felt like 40% of the pics with the comic tag were in some way vore related.

Kwak:

Adam Jensen:
I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

OK, that's pretty fuckin' sick.

If I were to guess, it could have to do with vore, or rather, eating, being seen as a more "wild" act that is "closer to nature" and so it shows up more in furry porn because, by nature of it being related to animals, they are a few steps closer to each other.

Keep in mind, based on what I've seen on DA, most vore that involves a human eating a human has it so it's some sort of giant eating a human. So I think that the natural reaction our species has to eating one of its own is still kicking in a lot of these people and so straight up cutting up and eating someone piece meal is still an incredibly rare fetish, with the majority of these cases being abstractions of reality.

Now explain to me the diaper fetish. Like I can see the train of logic a person could go through with vore, of it being "primal" or whatever, but I still don't see how sitting in your own excrement is supposed to turn you on.

Adam Jensen:

Kwak:

Adam Jensen:
I'm gonna regret asking, but I feel I have to. What is vore?

Thank urban dictionary.
....
Short for "voraphilia" or "vorarephilia": a fetish in which one fantasizes about being eaten alive or eating another creature alive (sometimes known as phagophilia). The most common type of vore is "soft vore", being swallowed or swallowing whole with no bloodshed. There is also the less common "hard vore" which involves the tearing and chewing of flesh. Other types of vore include macrophilia and microphilia, in which one character involved in the vore is larger or smaller than normal.

OK, that's pretty fuckin' sick.

Apparently its a really big thing. And this is kinda what I asked about earlier - where's the sexuality? Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?
Same thing with cuckold stuff. How can it be a sexual fetish when the fetish is the distinct lack of sex?
Same thing with vore, I don't see the sex part. I can get behind its a pain fetish, or a suicide fetish, that's fucked up but I understand it.

Nuuu:
It's the beauty on the inside that counts.

Especially with fava beans and a nice chianti.

Silentpony:
Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?

Well, I think one of the things about fetishes is that they can be very strange and don't necessarily obvious relate to sexual intercourse itself.

I'm going to digress heavily about someone my wife did therapy on, a teen who was scared of needles. To cut the story short, turns out his father was seriously ill, and he associated medical treatment with the fear of his father dying. You can see there's a link there, but neither is it obvious you should be scared of getting a tetanus jab because your dad might die.

So our psychology can form these strange links. And these links can possibly grow.

Imagine at some point back in alernative, pre-internet history porn mags had adverts, but only for gloves. I would be willing to bet you hand / glove fetishes would be massive: because every time porn afficianados indulged in sex, they'd have been seeing gloves. Once the association is created then it also creates a market for it so porn will continue making glove-orientated themes, which other people will pick up and it's self-sustaining.

It could then develop with a life of its own - novelties involving hand/glove fetish as people explore and expand on it, and there are always some people who follow the links, which also get a life of their own. It's not hard to imagine it ending in some weird stuff that some people associate with sex that make absolutely sod all sense to the vast majority of us. But somewhere there will be a whole pathway of associations, some cultural created over time so potentially even the fetishists don't even really understand it, linking back to sex.

So for vore, you could imagine it started with someone having a revelatory sexual experience where their partner bit them (possibly hard). And thus we have the origin of a sex and biting interest. Let it develop and expand, next thing you know someone's fantasising about being eaten.

Agema:

Silentpony:
Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?

Well, I think one of the things about fetishes is that they can be very strange and don't necessarily obvious relate to sexual intercourse itself.

I'm going to digress heavily about someone my wife did therapy on, a teen who was scared of needles. To cut the story short, turns out his father was seriously ill, and he associated medical treatment with the fear of his father dying. You can see there's a link there, but neither is it obvious you should be scared of getting a tetanus jab because your dad might die.

So our psychology can form these strange links. And these links can possibly grow.

Imagine at some point back in alernative, pre-internet history porn mags had adverts, but only for gloves. I would be willing to bet you hand / glove fetishes would be massive: because every time porn afficianados indulged in sex, they'd have been seeing gloves. Once the association is created then it also creates a market for it so porn will continue making glove-orientated themes, which other people will pick up and it's self-sustaining.

It could then develop with a life of its own - novelties involving hand/glove fetish as people explore and expand on it, and there are always some people who follow the links, which also get a life of their own. It's not hard to imagine it ending in some weird stuff that some people associate with sex that make absolutely sod all sense to the vast majority of us. But somewhere there will be a whole pathway of associations, some cultural created over time so potentially even the fetishists don't even really understand it, linking back to sex.

So for vore, you could imagine it started with someone having a revelatory sexual experience where their partner bit them (possibly hard). And thus we have the origin of a sex and biting interest. Let it develop and expand, next thing you know someone's fantasising about being eaten.

That does make sense, but at what point during this fetish gestation process is the sex part dropped? Like sure someone's partner bit them during sex and they kinda liked it, so it grew to more biting, harder bites, and the like, but still in the act of sex. If someone gets off to the idea of being bitten, that's all well and good, but the 'gets off' point should be the, well, point.

Same with any other fetish, surely. The point is that its sexually arousing and helps them orgasm. It feels like with a lot of these fetishes they've forgotten the most important part - the sex/orgasm.

The thing about fetishes is that you're right, they don't necessarily involve sex or an orgasm... but their mere existence is enough to arouse someone. Take feet. To my knowledge, Foot Fetishes are THE most common fetish in the world. And yet, feet are NOT inherintly sexual. Aside from a foot job, what are you going to do with feet?

I actually asked someone who was into vore why they were into it and what they liked about it. I believe they said that they liked the idea of being surrounded, perhaps protected, by the one they were inside. Warmth, the sounds of the body, and so on. They were more into Endosomatophilia I believe (which I think is the fetish for being inside someone), which vore connects to in an obvious way, but one can argue that fetishes can eventually have a link found, for why someone likes them. Even if it's NOT in a way that would directly cause them to orgasm.

Hell, look at people into BDSM, or Domination. These are things that to my knowledge don't involve direct sex or orgasms, and in some cases may involve the opposite: Orgasm Denial, or Pain instead of Pleasure. And yet, people ARE INTO THIS. It's weird, minds are weird, and yet... there it is.

Going back to the Vore thing, the mention someone made earlier about it being animal-connected does make sense. Many vore fans tend to state whether they fall in the Pred or Prey catagory (Kinda like Dom/Sub or Top/Bottom). And when you think Predators and Prey, you think animal kingdom. Cats eat mice, Wolves eat deer, foxes eat rabbits, and so forth. So it makes sense that people would draw such kinds of things now and then. Or the reverse, just for the sake of "Novelty". (A mouse eating a cat? REVENGE!! MWAHAHA!!!)

Like I said though, fetishes, and people, are just weird.

Chessrook44:

Like I said though, fetishes, and people, are just weird.

Pretty much, yeah. I have my own weird tastes... but I feel uncomfortable when I see people talking about them because I fell... well... uncomfortable about liking that sort of thing. And it's not just being a furry either.

Silentpony:
And this is kinda what I asked about earlier - where's the sexuality? Like doesn't a sexual fetish usually involve you know, sex?
Same thing with cuckold stuff. How can it be a sexual fetish when the fetish is the distinct lack of sex?
Same thing with vore, I don't see the sex part. I can get behind its a pain fetish, or a suicide fetish, that's fucked up but I understand it.

Vore I can't help you with, but the cuckold stuff is actually relatively easy to explain as it intersects with a few other fetishes and popular fanfiction concepts. In the subject of fetishes, the "cuckold" themselves hits the erotic humiliation crowd. Meanwhile the partner cheating on them hits...shall we say "hardcore seduction"? It's similar in principle to erotic stories heavily featuring [heavily romanticized] non-consent; in reality non-consent is unacceptably horrible, but behind the safe wall of fiction it can be used to indicate heightened pleasure. In simplest terms (and again with the important caveat that this only applies to fiction), if a character wanted it and enjoyed it then the pleasure might have been good, but if they didn't want it, got it anyway and ended up wanting more, then it communicates to us as readers that it must have been really good. So too is it with this subgenre, it's communicating that while the party being seduced may love their partner, they're fighting a draw that is so strong as to override if not outright replace that affection.

And then of course on the fanfiction concepts there's also the simple application of what TVTropes terms "Ron the Deatheater". Some people just really don't like the cuckold's paramour for whatever reason and seeing the characters separated is icing on the cake for the porn.

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