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ObsidianJones:

I'll answer this.

My better than best friend (what we called each other) passed in May 2018. Due to an asshole doctor who slapped a band aid on a serious condition, her health waned as her body didn't get the care that she needed. Years after the quack did nothing, her body wilted from her disease. She had a number of surgeries, and they were always trying to get ahead of the thing, but it was so ingrained in her body at that point that it was just inevitable that it would all come crashing down.

And it did.

She was in constant, severe pain every day. If she was lucky, she was at a dull 4.5 out of 10 for the entire day. She was on a wild variety of drugs that would work for a few months, and then the pain would overtake the treatment.

Her last days, she had to fight with her doctors because the dosage wasn't enough and people thought she was just getting high off of it. She just wanted to be able to sleep through a night.

She doesn't feel pain any more. She was an atheist. But she's free of pain. That would feel like heaven if you were constantly suffering.

And I still grieve to this day because I miss her. I grieve out of selfishness. No one is around to call me a brat. No one around to make me smile with just the light she would bring even on her most painful days.

And if there's a Heaven and we end up there somehow, I grieve that I lived my life without her. That's one thing I never wanted to do. Meeting up in Heaven and catching her up is a wonderful idea. But nothing could ever hold a candle to living all those experiences with her.

Thankyou for your reply, it is beautiful and heartfelt and no doubt if your friend is able to read it as I or anyone else can, they will be moved countless times more by such sincerity. I admit I should've edited the wording of the question before leaving, so it doesn't read so annoyingly assholish to others, but was in a rush and didn't think anyone would look twice at it. The more correct intent behind it was "what extent of differences are there between the grief of believers of an afterlife compared to those without said belief?" Mainly inspired from a part of a book from a lady talking about letting go of God and how she went through a second grieving process for her passed on loved ones. The grief of someone close who is clearly alive and experiencing suffering is completely understandable and I assume holds far less differences between the faithful and faithless in that regard. The curiosity is born from the abstract, the metaphysical perceptions of absence in mortality and what loss means to each individual. (Sorry for ridiculously late reply, been a little under the weather of late)

Why are people freaking out about how creepy the CATS actors look? I mean, they've ALWAYS looked creepy and furry, as far back as the stage performances. It's not any different. It's just CGI creepy now instead of cosplay creepy.

Watched The Matrix Reloaded for the 170th time last night, and this morning in the shower I finally wondered: how in the hell does Zion exist? The machines have the vast majority of humans doing their best Duracell impression, and they've the resources to send a sentinel for every man, woman and child in Zion; how did the comparatively few free humans manage to build a high-tech, underground shanty town without being discovered? The necessary engineering, excavation, logistics, heavy machinery, etc., a project of that undertaking would take YEARS of intense planning, development, a massive fuck-ton of resources and ultimately construction, and that's IF it'd even be possible; there's no way a ragtag bunch of humans could have surreptitiously pulled that off under the noses of the multitude of hyper-intelligent, sentient machines hell bent on finding them. (Yes, of all the things the Matrix films require one suspend disbelief for, this is the issue I've drawn the line at.)

Xprimentyl:
Watched The Matrix Reloaded for the 170th time last night, and this morning in the shower I finally wondered: how in the hell does Zion exist? The machines have the vast majority of humans doing their best Duracell impression, and they?ve the resources to send a sentinel for every man, woman and child in Zion; how did the comparatively few free humans manage to build a high-tech, underground shanty town without being discovered? The necessary engineering, excavation, logistics, heavy machinery, etc., a project of that undertaking would take YEARS of intense planning, development, a massive fuck-ton of resources and ultimately construction, and that?s IF it?d even be possible; there?s no way a ragtag bunch of humans could have surreptitiously pulled that off under the noses of the multitude of hyper-intelligent, sentient machines hell bent on finding them. (Yes, of all the things the Matrix films require one suspend disbelief for, this is the issue I?ve drawn the line at.)

The Architect basically explains that the formation of Zion is a known thing that he allows to happen, as a layer of control for the percentage of humans that reject the matrix. I always just assumed it was something that the machines would be ordered to just ignore for a sufficient amount of time. Basically just having them have an "out of bounds" type protocol, and just ignore The One for the iteration of the Matrix, and his handful of others selected to repopulate Zion.

And that The One, and the handful are basically aware of what they are doing, but after several generations, it's just lost to time. Or The One for that iteration just doesn't tell them that he's made a deal with the Architect, and just convinces them they were able to escape. If The One for that iteration is as powerful as Neo is shown to be, I don't think it's that far fetched to think he could mask their presence to the machines, long enough to set up a new Zion.

Xprimentyl:
Watched The Matrix Reloaded for the 170th time last night, and this morning in the shower I finally wondered: how in the hell does Zion exist? The machines have the vast majority of humans doing their best Duracell impression, and they?ve the resources to send a sentinel for every man, woman and child in Zion; how did the comparatively few free humans manage to build a high-tech, underground shanty town without being discovered? The necessary engineering, excavation, logistics, heavy machinery, etc., a project of that undertaking would take YEARS of intense planning, development, a massive fuck-ton of resources and ultimately construction, and that?s IF it?d even be possible; there?s no way a ragtag bunch of humans could have surreptitiously pulled that off under the noses of the multitude of hyper-intelligent, sentient machines hell bent on finding them. (Yes, of all the things the Matrix films require one suspend disbelief for, this is the issue I?ve drawn the line at.)

It's actually semi-explained in the architects long ass ramble. Zion, to one extent or another, has always been there. It was put in place as a staging ground for non compliant humans in version 2 (I think) after v1 blew up and they realized that nonbelieving was just innate to whatever % of humans and they would eventually cause a collapse if not filtered. So the start point for Zion was just present and built upon in each new version of the matrix. The resources and space were put there and then pointedly ignored by the machines to facilitate it. From what I could gather The One was supposed to pick out a group of survivors, who would then "rebuild" and start the resistance back up. The old The One would eventually die and his legend would be carried on as a bullshit prophecy to signal the next round.

It's also kind of implied that the previous Ones decided to be in on the deal with the machines on the basis that at least humanity would survive, and presumably the next round could shake out in humanities favour.

The real issue with all that is basically what you said except in universe. Of all these humans uniquely predisposed to not buying into bullshit even if bullshit is all they know, why did nobody look around and say "wait where the fuck did all this cool shit come from, and why haven't the eternal robot overlords who hate us not noticed it?" There's this really weird undertone of humans being confident and non-paranoid with respect to existing outside the matrix that makes no sense.

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Ninjaed by a Ninja

Happyninja42:

Xprimentyl:
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The Architect basically explains that the formation of Zion is a known thing that he allows to happen, as a layer of control for the percentage of humans that reject the matrix. I always just assumed it was something that the machines would be ordered to just ignore for a sufficient amount of time. Basically just having them have an "out of bounds" type protocol, and just ignore The One for the iteration of the Matrix, and his handful of others selected to repopulate Zion.

And that The One, and the handful are basically aware of what they are doing, but after several generations, it's just lost to time. Or The One for that iteration just doesn't tell them that he's made a deal with the Architect, and just convinces them they were able to escape. If The One for that iteration is as powerful as Neo is shown to be, I don't think it's that far fetched to think he could mask their presence to the machines, long enough to set up a new Zion.

Hmm... I'm willing to believe as you believe, that Zion is allowed to exist, but that still leaves the how? It's underground, closer to the Earth's core where it's warm; ever dug a hole? What'd you do with all the stuff filling the space where the hole now is? Ever dug a hole several thousand meters deep and then dug out a cavity big enough to accommodate thousands of people and then filled it with structurally sound buildings and advanced technologies making your several thousand meters underground cavity effectively a city? Every done all that discreetly? Even if the machines allowed Zion to exist, the few free humans simply could not have done it.

I'll add to your theory: perhaps the machines built Zion?

Edit: Lol, Ninja'd by EvilRoy

Xprimentyl:

Happyninja42:

Xprimentyl:
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The Architect basically explains that the formation of Zion is a known thing that he allows to happen, as a layer of control for the percentage of humans that reject the matrix. I always just assumed it was something that the machines would be ordered to just ignore for a sufficient amount of time. Basically just having them have an "out of bounds" type protocol, and just ignore The One for the iteration of the Matrix, and his handful of others selected to repopulate Zion.

And that The One, and the handful are basically aware of what they are doing, but after several generations, it's just lost to time. Or The One for that iteration just doesn't tell them that he's made a deal with the Architect, and just convinces them they were able to escape. If The One for that iteration is as powerful as Neo is shown to be, I don't think it's that far fetched to think he could mask their presence to the machines, long enough to set up a new Zion.

Hmm? I?m willing to believe as you believe, that Zion is allowed to exist, but that still leaves the how? It?s underground, closer to the Earth?s core where it?s warm; ever dug a hole? What?d you do with all the stuff filling the space where the hole now is? Ever dug a hole several thousand meters deep and then dug out a cavity big enough to accommodate thousands of people and then filled it with structurally sound buildings and advanced technologies making your several thousand meters underground cavity effectively a city? Every done all that discreetly? Even if the machines allowed Zion to exist, the few free humans simply could not have done it.

I?ll add to your theory: perhaps the machines built Zion?

Oh I agree, the entire premise is incredibly far fetched, no argument there. But to the initial question of "how did they do all that and not be noticed by the machines" I just figured it was sort of a "deal with the devil" kind of thing, between The One and the Architect. Since the Architect flat out said allowing those who reject it to leave was the best way to control that variance in humanity, to him, it's not really rebels, it's just a Variance Habitat. A pressure valve if you will. So yeah, he could totally have it set up where the machines build some "ruins of the old world" or whatever, when it's time for Zion 5.0 (after destroying Zion 4.0), but nobody knows that. Then just tell The One "hey here are the coordinates for a suitable habitation location we have prepared for you. There are suitable 'ruined' materials you can utilize to create rudimentary machines for survival, and sustenance." And then The One "discovers" the ruins with his band of people to repopulate the city.

Given the level of control The Architect likes to have over literally every possible contingency and situation, this seems perfectly logical and machine like in thinking. It's no effort at all for them to terraform some caverns to make the ruins for The One, and then just leaving it alone as it's literally part of their system. They are the control mechanism, so allowing them to use it is helping the functionality of The Matrix.

Now, I fully admit that none of this is directly stated in the film (as best as I can recall), but..actually let me rewatch that one scene.... ok so, yeah I just rewatched the Architect scene, and he flat out tells Neo that once Zion is destroyed, he is to select 23 other people to repopulate Zion. He says that outright. So it's all part of the layers of control. He KNOWS Zion exists, he accounts for it in His Plan. That's the whole point. It's there to give the anomalies of humanity a place to go, essentially, a human society septic tank, as far as the machines are concerned. To them, the purging of Zion (which they've done 5 times prior to Neo showing up) could be compared to dumping out the waste tank because it got full. The humans there reached a level where their interference with the Matrix was more of a hindrance, than their purpose as a human waste repository. So, dump it out, purge it, and then let The One and his 23 Breeders, start over. Sure it's a repeating process but, I mean, that's a process, a system, that's what the machines are all about. To them it's not a problem, it's just the system functioning normally. Zion = Septic Tank, and it serves it's purpose until reaching capacity, at which time, procedure is dump it and then go back to work until it's full again.

So yeah, to me that suggests, since Architect directly orders Neo to do this, that they probably always know where Zion is, they just ignore it, and let the humans live in a state of false security, that they are "hidden". And the war in Revolutions is just the unpleasant, messy work of dumping out the trash.

Happyninja42:
Why are people freaking out about how creepy the CATS actors look? I mean, they've ALWAYS looked creepy and furry, as far back as the stage performances. It's not any different. It's just CGI creepy now instead of cosplay creepy.

I'm guessing costumes and make-up just rank lower on the uncanny valley scale than CGI.

I hate the "Always" bumper stickers I see on cars. Snape was NOT a good person. At all. His unrequited love for Mama Potter doesn't excuse him being an absolute shit to Harry, and torturing him for years with physical and psychological abuse.

Sure it seems oh so romantic from the outside, and because Alan Rickman is a boss actor who can make someone as irredeemable as Snape seem nice, but it's really not.

I mean, think about their actual dynamic. Snape is that guy in highschool, that had the hots for a girl, and kind of stalked her for years. Not the guy she married and had kids with, the Other Guy.

Would anyone really want the Other Guy, to proceed to harrass and abuse their child after they are dead? Because he didn't get to fuck her in highschool? Always, shove that Always up your ass Snape, you are not a good "dark hero." You were a petty, spiteful man, who never got over the girl who turned him down in school. Woopty doo.

Happyninja42:
I hate the "Always" bumper stickers I see on cars. Snape was NOT a good person. At all. His unrequited love for Mama Potter doesn't excuse him being an absolute shit to Harry, and torturing him for years with physical and psychological abuse.

Sure it seems oh so romantic from the outside, and because Alan Rickman is a boss actor who can make someone as irredeemable as Snape seem nice, but it's really not.

I mean, think about their actual dynamic. Snape is that guy in highschool, that had the hots for a girl, and kind of stalked her for years. Not the guy she married and had kids with, the Other Guy.

Would anyone really want the Other Guy, to proceed to harrass and abuse their child after they are dead? Because he didn't get to fuck her in highschool? Always, shove that Always up your ass Snape, you are not a good "dark hero." You were a petty, spiteful man, who never got over the girl who turned him down in school. Woopty doo.

We call that unintentionally unsympathetic. It happens more often than you think. I made a similar rant about as
Ayane (dead or alive) in my disliking game for petty reasons thread. With a character like that though, I wouldn't exactly call it petty. How you feel correctly about Snape, is how I feel about characters like Suyin Beifong, Holdo, Hao Asakura, Kagome/Kiyo on my characters you're supposed to like or find sympathetic, but their absolute shit.

Happyninja42:
I hate the "Always" bumper stickers I see on cars. Snape was NOT a good person. At all. His unrequited love for Mama Potter doesn't excuse him being an absolute shit to Harry, and torturing him for years with physical and psychological abuse.

Sure it seems oh so romantic from the outside, and because Alan Rickman is a boss actor who can make someone as irredeemable as Snape seem nice, but it's really not.

I mean, think about their actual dynamic. Snape is that guy in highschool, that had the hots for a girl, and kind of stalked her for years. Not the guy she married and had kids with, the Other Guy.

Would anyone really want the Other Guy, to proceed to harrass and abuse their child after they are dead? Because he didn't get to fuck her in highschool? Always, shove that Always up your ass Snape, you are not a good "dark hero." You were a petty, spiteful man, who never got over the girl who turned him down in school. Woopty doo.

Yeah, it was a pretty lame cap to Snape's character. Just made him pathetic and creepy. Deathly Hallows was the worst Potter book by far, though, and Snape's stalking wasn't even close to being the worst part.

Eric Cartman was alt right before it was cool.

Marik2:
Eric Cartman was alt right before it was cool.

Which is sad. Because a lot of people looked at a mockery of outdated social norms and said "Yeah... yeah.. I can get into this!"

ObsidianJones:

Marik2:
Eric Cartman was alt right before it was cool.

Which is sad. Because a lot of people looked at a mockery of outdated social norms and said "Yeah... yeah.. I can get into this!"

Which goes to show like the misaimed fandom Tony Montana, Tyler Durden, and Rick Sanchez that they're a pack of pathetic, imbeciles with nothing better to do with their lives. I don't feel "sad" nor do I pity such pettiness. For people like that, I always think of this.

If I were to fall down a flight of stairs, would I break my neck, arms or legs, or would I just have a couple of bruises...🤔

Amazon is basically the progenitor of the Borg. Think about it: Amazon assimilates everything, the working conditions within their facilities is not unlike that of the highly efficient, soulless bustle within a Borg cube, and seeing as when I simply thought about buying the Ocean's 11 trilogy on Blu-ray, it was a mere 14 seconds later before the package arrived, it's clear that it's Amazon's end goal to send "boxes" at impossible warp speeds throughout the universe. It's also clear that resistance is futile.

Manipulation is the engineering of consent.

Camwhoring is virtual softcore prostitution.

I watched a bounty comercial (the disposable paper towel) where a little red headed kid fumbles what appears to be a dumping out of chopsticks, blows his sauce across the room, and the day is saved blah blah blah.

All I can think of is... you know multiculturalism is good, but it is a cold day in hell before any of the younger ones in my family is allowed to use chopsticks. Ain't enough trees in the world for the paper towel I would need - they already destroy rooms just failing to succeed with spoons.

Michael Jackson is probably the most famous and financially successful trans ethnic person.

Marik2:
Michael Jackson is probably the most famous and financially successful trans ethnic person.

Bit of a misconception, actually. While commonly accused/suspected of bleaching his skin, Michael Jackson had consistently claimed that his lightening skin was attributable to Vitiligo, in which the body's skin pigment cells are gradually destroyed. Jackson was actually formally diagnosed with the condition in 1986, and the symptoms were likely exacerbated by the use of makeup and prescription creams to mask the resulting blotchy patches on his skin. This is anecdotally corroborated by his family, and his autopsy confirmed the presence of the condition.

Asita:

Marik2:
Michael Jackson is probably the most famous and financially successful trans ethnic person.

Bit of a misconception, actually. While commonly accused/suspected of bleaching his skin, Michael Jackson had consistently claimed that his lightening skin was attributable to Vitiligo, in which the body's skin pigment cells are gradually destroyed. Jackson was actually formally diagnosed with the condition in 1986, and the symptoms were likely exacerbated by the use of makeup and prescription creams to mask the resulting blotchy patches on his skin. This is anecdotally corroborated by his family, and his autopsy confirmed the presence of the condition.

Considering the medical evidence and other confirmed cases of Vitiligo affecting (nearly) the whole body, it's very likely, yes. Though Vitiligo has a strong genetic component, so somewhat odd none of the other Jackson's have the condition. Could just be chance and Michael simply drew the short stick. Or one or more family members do also have it, but to a much less noticeable degree and manageable with make-up.

That could make all the plastic surgery making his features more causasian looking in the late 80's/early 90's just a coincidental stopgap in his dream of becoming a Ghoul.

I was in the shower thinking about Marisa Tomei, and the question hit me: during the final courtroom scene in My Cousin Vinny, what piece of evidence did Vinny suddenly recognize in the photo of the tire tracks that led him to call Mona Lisa to the stand to deliver the expert testimony that cleared his clients of guilt? I never got the impression throughout the film that he was an equally adept mechanic as Mona Lisa let alone so brilliant to have deduced in seconds the complex and logic and reason she confidently posits much to the astonishment of the courtroom.

Xprimentyl:
I was in the shower thinking about Marisa Tomei, and the question hit me: during the final courtroom scene in My Cousin Vinny, what piece of evidence did Vinny suddenly recognize in the photo of the tire tracks that led him to call Mona Lisa to the stand to deliver the expert testimony that cleared his clients of guilt? I never got the impression throughout the film that he was an equally adept mechanic as Mona Lisa let alone so brilliant to have deduced in seconds the complex and logic and reason she confidently posits much to the astonishment of the courtroom.

To me, the tiretracks just look considerably lighter to the naked eye. The smaller picture's tiretracks look unquestionably thicker in my opinion.

But it's a far away angle. Which leads to the next question, what detail could Tomei actually have gleamed from the bigger, far away picture?

Xprimentyl:
I was in the shower thinking about Marisa Tomei, and the question hit me: during the final courtroom scene in My Cousin Vinny, what piece of evidence did Vinny suddenly recognize in the photo of the tire tracks that led him to call Mona Lisa to the stand to deliver the expert testimony that cleared his clients of guilt? I never got the impression throughout the film that he was an equally adept mechanic as Mona Lisa let alone so brilliant to have deduced in seconds the complex and logic and reason she confidently posits much to the astonishment of the courtroom.

It's not particularly hammered on, but Vinny does imply a reasonably robust mechanical background just after the arraignment. In the scene, he's explaining to Lisa why - despite graduating law school - he doesn't know courtroom procedure.

The guy might not have the near-encyclopedic knowledge of his fiancee, but if the he's been consistently working as a mechanic, it's not unreasonable to assume that he'd have some understanding of different car components (eg, a solid rear axle vs an independent rear suspension, types of differentials, such as positraction, etc).

ObsidianJones:

Xprimentyl:
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To me, the tiretracks just look considerably lighter to the naked eye. The smaller picture's tiretracks look unquestionably thicker in my opinion.

But it's a far away angle. Which leads to the next question, what detail could Tomei actually have gleamed from the bigger, far away picture?

Yeah, that makes some sense, but it's clear in the scene he saw something damning which suggests he was going on a bit more than a hunch over which he put up a "Hail Mary" and called on his mechanic wife who he had to have known would have been severely scrutinized being so last-minute and without an objective "expert" designation.

Asita:

Xprimentyl:
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It's not particularly hammered on, but Vinny does imply a reasonably robust mechanical background just after the arraignment. In the scene, he's explaining to Lisa why - despite graduating law school - he doesn't know courtroom procedure.

The guy might not have the near-encyclopedic knowledge of his fiancee, but if the he's been consistently working as a mechanic, it's not unreasonable to assume that he'd have some understanding of different car components (eg, a solid rear axle vs an independent rear suspension, types of differentials, such as positraction, etc).

That makes more sense, and I'd forgotten that little exchange where he mentions working in her dad's shop, but if that were true, it goes back to the point I made with ObsidionJones: he'd already recognized something substantially damning in the photo, and if he had that significant enough mechanical know-how to have figured it out, why call on Mona Lisa? Why not recall the prosecution's already established expert and posit the questions to him? I mean the facts were the facts; Mona Lisa made it plain and the expert could not refute any of it, so why risk her clearly biased testimony (wife of the defending attorney) or worse, that she might not suss out what Vinny had seemed to have already on his own? I know it works for a satisfactorily triumphant cinematic moment, but the logical part of my brain sees it as an unnecessarily risky play with a prosecution and judge that'd attempted to "eat his lunch" at every opportunity.

I should just keep my '90s Marisa Tomei shower thoughts purely sexual.

Xprimentyl:

That makes more sense, and I?d forgotten that little exchange where he mentions working in her dad?s shop, but if that were true, it goes back to the point I made with ObsidionJones: he?d already recognized something substantially damning in the photo, and if he had that significant enough mechanical know-how to have figured it out, why call on Mona Lisa? Why not recall the prosecution?s already established expert and posit the questions to him? I mean the facts were the facts; Mona Lisa made it plain and the expert could not refute any of it, so why risk her clearly biased testimony (wife of the defending attorney) or worse, that she might not suss out what Vinny had seemed to have already on his own? I know it works for a satisfactorily triumphant cinematic moment, but the logical part of my brain sees it as an unnecessarily risky play with a prosecution and judge that?d attempted to ?eat his lunch? at every opportunity.

I should just keep my ?90s Marisa Tomei shower thoughts purely sexual.

Lawyers have an adage to the effect of "Never ask a witness a question that you don't already know the answer to". In fact, we see the dangers of ignoring this rule twice in the film, once when the public defender accidentally makes the witness's case stronger by having him demonstrate his visual acuity, and once by the prosecutor when he asks Lisa to demonstrate her knowledge.

Vinny hadn't had the opportunity to acquaint himself with the prosecution's expert, so was not in a position to anticipate his responses. With Lisa, however, he was intimately familiar with her extensive automotive knowledge and ability to tie individual features to a specific make, model, and year of car, and their shared mechanical experience meant that if he was able to infer that the defendants' car couldn't have made the tire marks in the picture, Lisa almost certainly could do the same. We can further surmise that if she didn't immediately realize that, he could then turn around and ask about whether a car without one of the traits necessary to make those marks could have done so, thereby leading into a similar scene to what occurred in the film. Simply put, he knew he could get the answer he needed from Lisa, and could not simply assume that he could get it from the prosecution's expert.

Are pigeons secretly Sith Lords?

Chimpzy:
Are pigeons secretly Sith Lords?

Or could it be Sith Lords are secretly pigeons? That the only reason they are thought of as evil is because they have no concept of morality and are restricted in thinking only to serve themselves in the most primal of means? That perhaps even greater evil lies in slumber ready to be awoken; the seagull Sith?

Neurotic Void Melody:

Chimpzy:
Are pigeons secretly Sith Lords?

Or could it be Sith Lords are secretly pigeons? That the only reason they are thought of as evil is because they have no concept of morality and are restricted in thinking only to serve themselves in the most primal of means? That perhaps even greater evil lies in slumber ready to be awoken; the seagull Sith?

Maybe, but that only makes sense if Sith also shit all over everything.

Chimpzy:
Maybe, but that only makes sense if Sith also shit all over everything.

Just because you aren't shown it, don't mean it don't happen. Sounds like the type of evil shitty thing they'd do anyway if they were given enough leeway with the films' age ratings!

Neurotic Void Melody:

Chimpzy:
Maybe, but that only makes sense if Sith also shit all over everything.

Just because you aren't shown it, don't mean it don't happen. Sounds like the type of evil shitty thing they'd do anyway if they were given enough leeway with the films' age ratings!

True enough. Sith is a none too clever anagram, after all.

Why did I get out of bed this morning again?

Chimpzy:
Are pigeons secretly Sith Lords?

Is Jesus a sith? There is this quote: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."

We need a Deadpool-Harley Quinn crossover. I don't care if it's live-action or animated. Make it happen Marvel & DC!

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I don't muse in the shower. I tend to sing. Sometimes in foreign languages (Swedish 80's hard rock/metal, specifically)

CoCage:

Chimpzy:
Are pigeons secretly Sith Lords?

Is Jesus a sith? There is this quote: "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."

Interesting. This begs the follow-up question: is Jesus a pigeon?

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