Vladimir Putin warns Ron Paul victory would lead to American Civil War

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An apocalyptic report from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to Prime Minister Putin circulating in the Kremlin today warns that the ascendency of US Presidential candidate Ron Paul among the American electorate could very well 'sow the seeds' of a civil war in that country; a 'virtual certainty,' it says, if he wins his Republican Party nomination to challenge Obama.

According to this report, the 'dynamic confluences' of communistic socialism and nationalistic fascism have split the American electorate in half as has not happened since the early 1920's when the German Empire faced these same forces leading to the rise of Nazism.

The parallels between the present day United States and 1920's Germany, this report notes, are 'too substantial' to be ignored and include: 1.) Staggering war debt; 2.) Unprecedented budget deficits; 3.) Soaring rates of unemployment at, or nearing, depression levels; 4.) Growing protests violently suppressed by police forces; 5.) The virtual elimination of the middle classes as tens of millions fall into poverty and homelessness; 6.) Draconian new laws passed to eliminate all freedoms; 7.) The rapid building of new prisons and concentration camps; 8.) Massively growing police forces and internal checkpoints; 9.) The creation of an elite upper class to which nearly all money flows; and 10.) The takeover by the elite upper classes of the political process and all politicians and political parties.
Most critical to note about Ron Paul, this report says, are the 'too many comparisons to be ignored' between him and the 'savior' of a defeated German Empire that brought his nation back from the brink of destruction, Adolph Hitler, most notably among the youngest members of their respective societies.
Central to both Ron Paul and Hitler's campaigns for the leadership of their countries was their calling for the abolition of their Central Banking Systems both of them blamed for the destruction of their nations way of life.

Important to note about Central Banking Systems (like the Federal Reserve System in the US, and European National Bank in the EU) are that once they are established they become the main power behind all ways of life usurping all political power and the rights of people to determine their own fate. This is a harsh reality being ruthlessly learned by many European nations today including, Greece, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Portugal and Hungry whose lives are now dominated and controlled by bankers.
Upon Hitler's rise to power one of his first acts was to destroy the Central Banking System and set Germany upon its own path of fiscal independence apart from the Global Economic System after which their economy 'rose like a rocket and in just one year almost all the people in Germany got a well paid job.'

The most grateful Germans for Hitler's actions in abolishing the Central Banking System and restoring their economy were the youngest members of their society who formed a group known as 'The Hitler Youth' and whose membership rose from 6,000 in 1926 to over 7.3 million by 1939.

Today in America, this report warns, the rise of a new 'Hitler Youth' proletariat is coalescing around Ron Paul as evidenced by his rising support among both right-wing (Tea Party Movement) and left-wing (Occupy Movement) factions of youths who know their country has been stolen from them by their elite classes.

Like Hitler before him, this report continues, Ron Paul's advocacy of abolishing the Central Banking System his country is enslaved to is unequivocal, and as he described the Federal Reserve recently: 'It's sort of like a drug. You get some benefits if you keep using it - you know, run up debt, run up inflation, monetize the debt, make a bigger bubble. Just like a drug addiction, the drug addict feels better when he keeps getting drugs. But the high can't last forever, and like so many cases of drug addicts, if you don't do something about it, you kill the patient,' Paul said. 'And right now the patient is very, very big, and that's the worldwide economy.'

Also, like Hitler before him, this report notes, racism appears to be a part of Ron Paul's 'overall makeup' as evidenced by past newsletters that were published under his name and include statements such as: 'Racial Violence Will Fill Our Cities' because 'mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white 'haves.'' [Note: In numerous interviews, Ron Paul has disavowed knowledge of these racist statements.]

Even more disturbing about Ron Paul, this report warns, are his many 'veiled' references to Jews, including blaming them for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City.
As history has long shown, this report says, the abolition of any nations Central Banking System to gain independence from the Global Economic System is all too often accompanied by genocide (such as the Holocaust) when an enraged proletariat assumes power and begins its retribution against all of those 'blamed' for destroying their country in the first place.

Even worse, this report notes, is the 'trail of death' numbering in the tens of millions exacted by the Central Banking System over the past 100 years alone against any nation seeking independence from it, and includes both World War I and World War II.

Important to note in this report is its not saying that Ron Paul is a modern day Hitler, but rather its noting that the influences behind him are an 'exact mirror image' of those that arose out of the German Empire in the 1920's that can't be ignored by the Motherland because 'sooner rather than later' Russia will inevitably come into conflict with a United States seeking to prevent its demise by outright world domination.

As noted in the American author John Loftus's book America's Nazi Secret, it should, also, be mentioned that the United States of today, due to the overwhelming influence of the Nazis brought by the tens of thousands into that country after World War II, it is not the same country the Motherland allied itself with during that last global conflict in the 1930's and 1940's, but with each passing day begins to resemble Hitler's Germany more and more.

There is no greater example of this than Obama's signing this past weekend of new law allowing for the indefinite jailing of anyone opposing this regime without charges or trial in violation of the US Constitution which strictly prohibits such actions and as warned about by the American Civil Liberty Unions Executive Directors Anthony D. Romero who said: 'President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law. The statute is particularly dangerous because it has no temporal or geographic limitations, and can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield.'

Should Ron Paul become that 'future president' and decide, like Hitler did before him, that the dangers of the Central Banking System outweighs the freedoms and lives of those who support it then all of the laws needed to imprison those opposed to him are already there at his disposal to use...with civil war being the inevitable outcome.

Source: http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/01/05/russia-warns-ron-paul-victory-would-lead-to-american-civil-war-2

What does the escapist think? Is this a reasonable prediction by the Russian government, or is it scare mongering which aims to try to stop American voters from bringing in the Ron Paul revolution?

Putin's Russia is having a lot of problems right now, it could simply be an attempt to unify his country against supposed foreign aggressors.

Not too familiar with Ron Paul, but from what I do know, comparing him to Hitler seems a bit extreme...

Good thing I read the whole thing. I was about to rage at them. So they're not comparing Ron Paul to Hitler, they're just comparing the circumstances. The only thing in common is the banking system issue. I'm no big ron Paul fan, but the comparison would of driven me mad. Heck, Obama is more comparable to Hitler than Ron Paul

Wait, how was this leaked out? I get the impression that Russia today would be a lot more... strict about the accidental release of information than other Western Governments, which means that this report was created with the purpose of public release, and why would you create and release such an odd report to the general public that seems to have no other purpose than comparing America (your old enemy and infamous rival) to Nazi Germany? Well, I'll bet propaganda has an awful lot to do with it.

So this has probably very little to do with Ron Paul, and a whole lot to do with getting one over on America (he officially called them Nazis. You can't get much worse than that.)

Th3Ch33s3Cak3:

Also, I don't see why people would dislike the elite class. They're the elite class for a reason.

Personally I think it's the mouth:

My momma always said "Never trust a person with more jaws than fingers."

Daverson:
Putin's Russia is having a lot of problems right now, it could simply be an attempt to unify his country against supposed foreign aggressors.

Not too familiar with Ron Paul, but from what I do know, comparing him to Hitler seems a bit extreme...

He's just another republican candidate that's not going to win the nominee. The only notable feature about him (other than the fact that he's a racist old man) is that he's actually a libertarian. He's pretty much only getting attention from the "Under 30" and way to into Ayn Rand demographic.

Nothing to worry about.

Hero in a half shell:
Wait, how was this leaked out? I get the impression that Russia today would be a lot more... strict about the accidental release of information than other Western Governments, which means that this report was created with the purpose of public release, and why would you create and release such an odd report to the general public that seems to have no other purpose than comparing America (your old enemy and infamous rival) to Nazi Germany? Well, I'll bet propaganda has an awful lot to do with it.

So this has probably very little to do with Ron Paul, and a whole lot to do with getting one over on America (he officially called them Nazis. You can't get much worse than that.)

Th3Ch33s3Cak3:

Also, I don't see why people would dislike the elite class. They're the elite class for a reason.

Personally I think it's the mouth:

My momma always said "Never trust a person with more jaws than fingers."

That image and quote is hilarious.

OT: I think Putin is just trying to blame his failings on something else. He's essentially making up a bunch of bullshit to get people off his back.

*Looks at Russian protestors

triggrhappy94:

Daverson:
Putin's Russia is having a lot of problems right now, it could simply be an attempt to unify his country against supposed foreign aggressors.

Not too familiar with Ron Paul, but from what I do know, comparing him to Hitler seems a bit extreme...

He's just another republican candidate that's not going to win the nominee. The only notable feature about him (other than the fact that he's a racist old man) is that he's actually a libertarian. He's pretty much only getting attention from the "Under 30" and way to into Ayn Rand demographic.

Nothing to worry about.

My thoughts exactly. I don't like him, but I'm not worried about him either. Personally, I think ALL of the GOP candidates are morons and that Obama will win again. But that's me, I guess.

Hero in a half shell:
Wait, how was this leaked out? I get the impression that Russia today would be a lot more... strict about the accidental release of information than other Western Governments, which means that this report was created with the purpose of public release, and why would you create and release such an odd report to the general public that seems to have no other purpose than comparing America (your old enemy and infamous rival) to Nazi Germany? Well, I'll bet propaganda has an awful lot to do with it.

So this has probably very little to do with Ron Paul, and a whole lot to do with getting one over on America (he officially called them Nazis. You can't get much worse than that.)

Th3Ch33s3Cak3:

Also, I don't see why people would dislike the elite class. They're the elite class for a reason.

Personally I think it's the mouth:

My momma always said "Never trust a person with more jaws than fingers."

But if Elites have 4 jaws and 4 fingers....do you trust them or just ignore their statements (Not the "I don't trust them", just drowning them out of the noise)

You know, Americans rushing to their guns over politics isn't totally unheard of. I really doubt it will happen though.

I think it's likely that Putin is owned by allies of the Federal Reserve. A president who threatens to eliminate the Federal Reserve is a threat to him.

I don't like Ron Paul's views on several important social issues like marriage and a woman's right to choose what to do with her body. I also don't like the idea of deregulating corporate persons (actually the idea of corporations having the same rights as individuals at all seems ludicrous).

But despite all that, I'd still vote for Ron Paul because he wants to get rig of the Federal Reserve. If we can eliminate that albatross, solutions to our other problems will fall into place.

I supported Obama before he was elected, but his actions have branded him as a traitor in my view. Handing trillions of dollars to banks and signing the NDAA are unforgivable crimes.

Can someone say "sensationalism"?

Jesus fucking Christ.

O_o

Time to overreact!!!!! Mayans, Aliens, Talos, Paul 2012!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111~!!!!!!!!1

Okay, now that that's out of my syste...Illuminati, 4Chan, WikiLeaks, Whitney, Episode I 3D, 20-Fucking-12!!!!!111111111111!!!!!!!111

Um, okay, NOW it's out of my system, I think...

What was I talking about, oh yeah, yeah, I doubt we'll see a civil war, right? Right? RIGHT?

Fawxy:
Snip

My thoughts exactly too, so it's not just you.
I don't think any of the GOP candidates will stand a chance against Obama in a real debate.

I think the article is pretty stupid, obviously. I don't know when I look around my area everyone seems to be doing pretty well.

I'm not worried. Everyone stupid enough to fight in a war that our nation doesn't even care about is already doing it.

Russian despot with shaky support claims new leadership in US would destabilise long-term rival in order to drum up some support from the nationalists who support him anyway.

Putin's having a tough time to begin with.

Redlin5:
You know, Americans rushing to their guns over politics isn't totally unheard of. I really doubt it will happen though.

I think the entire country is a lot more lax than you give them credit for.

ResonanceSD:

Redlin5:
You know, Americans rushing to their guns over politics isn't totally unheard of. I really doubt it will happen though.

I think the entire country is a lot more lax than you give them credit for.

That's why I'm not waving my arms and yelling "Come to Canada, we don't have tons of munition dumps next to our bars!"

I'm willing to believe the average American is a calm, rational and reasonable human being who won't go shooting people just over politics.

It sounds ridiculous...but they have a point. Someone could take advantage of the situation in america to rise to power just like hitler did. I also bet people didnt believe germany could change so fast before it happened.

Its a chilling thought. Would the rest of the world even be able to stand against America if they became nazilike? Their military is easily the biggest and strongest. Plus the nuclear arsenal, it could be like the cold war again, every day wondering if the nukes are coming and the world is going to end.

Th3Ch33s3Cak3:
They're getting it wrong, imo. What they've stated sounds a bit extreme. What would relly lead to a civil war(or at least intense civil unrest) is his policy on liberty. He wants to legalize all drugs. ALL drugs.

Now I'm the type of guy who supports his goverment on almost anything they do. But if they were to legalize all drugs(or any that isn't legal already) I would be protesting(peacefully) day and night.

Also, I don't see why people would dislike the elite class. They're the elite class for a reason.

Ok so I'm not an advocate for the legalization of drugs(except for pot) but think of what the government could do if all drugs were, in fact, legalized. Standardizing would lead to an overnight drop in the transmission of HIV, Hepatitis and other such diseases. We could tax the hell out of all drugs like we already do with Cigarettes and this would help with the debt crisis. Crime would drop and police would be able to focus their efforts on more serious crimes instead of busting up crackheads and dealers. Also if we made it legal then we can say goodbye to the cartels' hold in the USA.

Just my view on things.

Doesnt seem unfeasable, although the way Obama is fucking things up, it'd be him, and not Ron Paul to screw America further.

But I digress.

I for one, welcome our (soon-to-be) Chinese Overlords.

Well, to be honest right now I wouldn't mind having a "Hitler" running the place...you know minus the whole genocide thing. He did rebuild Germany when they were boned. Rebuilding the county without killing millions of people is something I can tolerate...if I HAVE to...

chaosyoshimage:
O_o

Time to overreact!!!!! Mayans, Aliens, Talos, Paul 2012!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111~!!!!!!!!1

Okay, now that that's out of my syste...Illuminati, 4Chan, WikiLeaks, Whitney, Episode I 3D, 20-Fucking-12!!!!!111111111111!!!!!!!111

Um, okay, NOW it's out of my system, I think...

What was I talking about, oh yeah, yeah, I doubt we'll see a civil war, right? Right? RIGHT?

Don't forget the solar flares, galaxy alignment, and the coming of the Gods of Chaos! I, for one, welcome our new Chaos overlords! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

Ah, sensationalism at its finest...seriously... -_-

Ron Paul is actually the best Republican candidate.

What a shame.

Redlin5:

ResonanceSD:

Redlin5:
You know, Americans rushing to their guns over politics isn't totally unheard of. I really doubt it will happen though.

I think the entire country is a lot more lax than you give them credit for.

That's why I'm not waving my arms and yelling "Come to Canada, we don't have tons of munition dumps next to our bars!"

I'm willing to believe the average American is a calm, rational and reasonable human being who won't go shooting people just over politics.

I'm sorry, but that second statement is wrong. Veeeery wrong. Any room in Canada? I don't even mind the streets of Toronto.

Putin being the scum that faked a country-wide election? Yeah, no thanks mr prez, I think I'll stick to the guy that makes sense. That guy needs to get off power, the lying prick.

Th3Ch33s3Cak3:
Now I'm the type of guy who supports his goverment on almost anything they do. But if they were to legalize all drugs(or any that isn't legal already) I would be protesting(peacefully) day and night.

Because god forbid people have the right to put whatever they want into their bodies.

We spend about $500 per second on The War on Drugs. Over 15 billion dollars a year. he United States prison economy runs slightly over $37 billion USD while the funding for Education runs only slightly over $40 billion USD. We spend almost as much money incarcerating people as we do teaching children how to become productive and law abiding adult. We treat people like criminals for having a medical problem -addiction. Instead of teaching our children that drugs are bad, and investing that money into giving them an environment where they can be safe, where they can learn, and where they can work we push them on the streets without options then arrest them for making the mistakes we didn't tell them about.

Why fear education? Why fear freedom? Why fear your fellow man?
Its your (and everyone's) fault that they end up like this. Because we would rather lock up and push aside our problems then do the work to solve them.

The days of an American civil war are long gone. People are too lazy and apathetic now.

What's funny is that Ron Paul's objective is to make America the exact opposite of Nazi Germany. He wants to deregulate markets, end all foreign wars and scale back the power of the central government, according to his recorded statements.
Honestly, I'm so fucking disillusioned with our government that, despite in the past being a staunch democrat, I really, REALLY hope he wins. Obama is a Lyndon B. Johnson figure and a lying piece of shit.

If America did have a civil war, it would be destroyed. An offshoot of having everyone own guns is that this kind of situation just got a lot worse.

Obama passed that fucking ridiculous bill? And this legitimately flew over everyone's head?

I hate to fall into the stereotype of sensationalist fool, but there actually is a great deal to be taken from this letter. Ron Paul truly does call the extremist votes from both sides of the spectrum, which is surely a recipe for disaster. The idiots will vote for him, and be willing to ignore the vast amount of cons that will come with them just to see themselves get their ways. It's a very scary thought.

It also calls into question that America is very much knee deep into falling head over heels into itself and completely collapsing. We very much are the Motherland of out time.

I dont think its smart to brush it off with words like "he wont get elected anyway" and the like.
The think is, the circumstances are already pretty grim and should somebody really manage to unite the angry masses, that stemm from the unrest he could do quite some damage.

Not mentioning that hes republican and after looking through their lineup(as a not american) it seems like they have enough hitler-wannabes, some even have tits!

Th3Ch33s3Cak3:
Also, I don't see why people would dislike the elite class. They're the elite class for a reason.

Jealousy? Wealthy people are quite often born into their wealth, having done nothing to earn it. Who wouldn't want to be effortlessly rich for life?

SillyBear:
The days of an American civil war are long gone. People are too lazy and apathetic now.

Yep. The average U.S. citizen just doesn't care anymore. The U.S. government is already testing the waters on restricting freedom and, outside of the 18-25 year olds who use the internet, the response just isn't there. Occupy Wall Street was nice, but other citizens were telling them to go get jobs.

RedEyesBlackGamer:

SillyBear:
The days of an American civil war are long gone. People are too lazy and apathetic now.

Yep. The average U.S. citizen just doesn't care anymore. The U.S. government is already testing the waters on restricting freedom and, outside of the 18-25 year olds who use the internet, the response just isn't there. Occupy Wall Street was nice, but other citizens were telling them to go get jobs.

Exactly my thoughts. It sadly amuses me to watch how much Obama can get away with before anyone even says anything. And the people who do say anything are young internet users - the overwhelming majority of the public still don't know.

The days of passion and civil war have left.

Putin I love you man, but shut up.

Th3Ch33s3Cak3:
Also, I don't see why people would dislike the elite class. They're the elite class for a reason.

Rampant nepotism, that's why. That's the case in Ireland, seems to be the case in America.

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