James Bond, Jack Bauer, Jason Bourne - Whats with the JB's?

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Anyone got any ideas on why its all about the J.B. when it comes to international super spy's? Discuss.

Coincidence. Do you know what a Bower is? It is the ultimate trump card from a card game called Pfeffer (No clue how to spell it...). The joke is that when you call your suit, say, Spades, the JACK is the highest card in that suit. The Jack of Spades is the right Bower, the Jack of Clubs is the Left Bower, and the rest of the Spades trump every card, no matter which was played first. (The Jack of the same color is always your left. So if you went Diamonds, the Jack of Hearts is your left.)

That is where Jack Bauer came from. James Bond has been around since the late fiftie, early sixties, and Jason Bourne was written BEFORE 24 came out...

bullsh*t.

What is bullshit? Jason Bourne was written long before 24. It was originally made into a film in the seventies with Richard Chamberlain as JB.

So there you are

electric discordian:
What is bullshit? Jason Bourne was written long before 24. It was originally made into a film in the seventies with Richard Chamberlain as JB.

So there you are

I thought Jason Bourne was originally a book series, or was that after the 70's film?

It's BJ backwards, and that is an awesome thing.

Darth Mobius:
Coincidence. Do you know what a Bauer is? It is the ultimate trump card from a card game called Feffer (No clue how to spell it...). The joke is that when you call your suit, say, Spades, the JACK is the highest card in that suit. The Jack of Spades is the right Bauer, the Jack of Clubs is the Left Bauer, and the rest of the Spades trump every card, no matter which was played first. (The Jack of the same color is always your left. So if you went Diamonds, the Jack of Hearts is your left.)

That is where Jack Bauer came from. James Bond has been around since the late fiftie, early sixties, and Jason Bourne was written BEFORE 24 came out...

Thats kinda funny. Never knew that.

Yea, that card game is called Euchre. (pernounced: you-kerr) Jason Bourne is too good to be associated with James Bond and Jack Bauer.

ThePoodonkis:
I thought Jason Bourne was originally a book series, or was that after the 70's film?

Not sure on that, I was referring to the books though...

James Bond was inspired by the name of an author of a bird watching book, as I recall.

And yes, The Bourne Identity was a book.

Wiru:
Yea, that card game is called Euchre. (pernounced: you-kerr) Jason Bourne is too good to be associated with James Bond and Jack Bauer.

No, Euchre is different than Pfeffer. (I think that is how it is spelled...) Similar premise, different game.

Larenxis:
James Bond was inspired by the name of an author of a bird watching book, as I recall.

And yes, The Bourne Identity was a book.

Thought so, I vaguely remember it being in my school library.

JB for all of their initals is pretty cool though. Never payed much attention to super spies though.

Whew! I was worried I was the only one on to some kind of conspiracy or something...

First appearances:

Bourne: (novel;1975) (movie;1988)
Bond: (novel;1953) (movie;1962)
Bauer: (TV;2001)

007 wins first JB spy name

MRMIdAS2k:
It's BJ backwards, and that is an awesome thing.

I daresay you've cracked the code.

Larenxis:
James Bond was inspired by the name of an author of a bird watching book, as I recall.

And yes, The Bourne Identity was a book.

I do remember watching a doco on that. The writter of JB (name slips my mind) couldn't think of a name and was looking around his room. He saw the books and bingo. One thing lead to another and now everyone's in a whole world of trouble.

Darth Mobius:
Coincidence. Do you know what a Bauer is? It is the ultimate trump card from a card game called Feffer (No clue how to spell it...). The joke is that when you call your suit, say, Spades, the JACK is the highest card in that suit. The Jack of Spades is the right Bauer, the Jack of Clubs is the Left Bauer, and the rest of the Spades trump every card, no matter which was played first. (The Jack of the same color is always your left. So if you went Diamonds, the Jack of Hearts is your left.)

I believe the game you are thinking of is called Euchre

I never realised the similarities between spy novels and Jack being the trump card (Bower). Infarct I never realised the similarity between initials, it's a conspiracy.

themightyodog:
Anyone got any ideas on why its all about the J.B. when it comes to international super spy's? Discuss.

The "J.B." name is archetypical of a spy. If I went up to a random person and said: "Imagine for me a person called "Jim Brekenridge." What is his occupation?" they would most likely respond "spy" or something in that vein. People probably don't even realize the connection until some random epiphany (like you) or someone tells them.

Don't you think it makes sense for a farmboy to be drawn into great and distant conflict by nature of his parentage and taught to survive his violent new life by an elderly mentor whom he previously knew only vaguely and for said mentor to present the farmboy with a powerful weapon (most likely once used by his father that he never knew)? (and think of how many stories go like that, two come off the top of my head)

Fire Daemon:

Darth Mobius:
Coincidence. Do you know what a Bauer is? It is the ultimate trump card from a card game called Feffer (No clue how to spell it...). The joke is that when you call your suit, say, Spades, the JACK is the highest card in that suit. The Jack of Spades is the right Bauer, the Jack of Clubs is the Left Bauer, and the rest of the Spades trump every card, no matter which was played first. (The Jack of the same color is always your left. So if you went Diamonds, the Jack of Hearts is your left.)

I believe the game you are thinking of is called Euchre

I never realised the similarities between spy novels and Jack being the trump card (Bower). Infarct I never realised the similarity between initials, it's a conspiracy.

No Pfeffer is different than Euchre. I already mentioned this. I don't play Euchre, but it is probably the more commonly known card game that uses Bowers...

According to the rules of Euchre, the main difference is that if you Don't make a trick with your hand, you get set back 5 points. It doesn't appear that in the closest variant of Euchre you can get set for not making a trick. Anyway, My Mom, who has played Both, agrees with me, they are very similar, but not the same...

Ooooh... Jack Black.

I discovered another spy, and he's passing himself off as a panda.

PurpleRain:

I do remember watching a doco on that. The writter of JB (name slips my mind)

Sir Ian Flemming wrote the James bond book and a few other things too

James and most spies are based on a man known as Intrepid aka Sir William Stephenson and he was canadian too

James is still one of the best spies around, everyone likes him even with all his womanizing and he got away with saying a lot of pretty bold statements in that day too

such as this from Diamonds are Forever

James Bond: Weren't you a blonde when I came in?
Tiffany Case: Could be.
James Bond: I tend to notice little things like that - whether a girl is a blonde or a brunette.
Tiffany Case: Which do you prefer?
James Bond: Well, as long as the collar and cuffs match...

Sir William Stephenson is the coolest guy ever. I know someone who met him, and he was all like "I met Neil Young and Jean Chretien too!" and I did not care.

I rather like the James Bond character despite so many of the movies being awful, and I'm hoping to read Casino Royale once I finish my dreadful book.

Jimmy Buffet? Jason Bateman? Jack Black? John Booth? James Brown! Jack Burton?
Mein gadt! They're networked everywhere!

MRMIdAS2k:
It's BJ backwards, and that is an awesome thing.

Dammit....and I thought I was going to be really clever.

I now have a new found respect for Jim Bowen... he certainly hides it well.

Khell_Sennet:
Ooooh... Jack Black.

I discovered another spy, and he's passing himself off as a panda.

first mike meyers, now steve carrell, its only a matter of time before Jack Black makes his own spy comedy...I dread that day.

you have listed 3 different JB's out of all the other spy movies...name one other famous spy with the initials JB, there aren't really "all the JB's" just 3...unless you meet the afformentioned challenge.

themightyodog:
yeah that was the only point brought up in the previous post to mine, you absolute bell end.

Funny you should say that, since I now Know of TWO card games that use bowers... And you got banned...

Holy shit! George Bush! Wait. It sounds the same!

IF he was french he could have been Jeorges Bush

Well, McWipp seems to have found all the loose JBs. I know there's an alcoholic... product(?) called J&B...

Good catch, themightydog.

I spy with my little eye, a co-incidence. Nothing more. Names beginning with J are common (Jack, John and James are in the top 10 most common) and names beginning with B are also common. I guess it's just random luck and/or chance.

I bet Jim Beam has some sort of liquid tracking device or camera that the guys in lab coats won't tell us about.

vun:
I bet Jim Beam has some sort of liquid tracking device or camera that the guys in lab coats won't tell us about.

What? no, no. of course there are no tracking devices in jim beam. vending machines, on the other hand...
*muffled gunshots*

JB is easy to make a name from, Jillian brice. See, simple, but James bond is just awesome.

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