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The PSP Go is a study in 1999 mentality applied to a 2009 market.

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Meh, it 'sounds' great but I doubt it is.

Danzorz:
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You can walk into the iTunes app store right now with $5.00 in your account and walk out with hundreds of free apps, Peggle and a handful of other pay games. With the PSP Go, $5.00 gets you a quarter of the way to one of the less expensive games, like Patapon 2. The flaw, my friends, is not with the system price, it's with the lack of an average price drop on the actual content.
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Would be awesome if I HAD any iTunes stores or anything like that. If someone doesn't have them in town (or country...), PSP loses, apparently, one of the greatest advantages over other consoles.

The PSP has always been utter shit, and the PSP Go is no different.

GuNsLiNgEr X:
The PSP has always been utter shit, and the PSP Go is no different.

This.

PsP was poor, at best, and I hold onto my theory that Sony coughed it up to keep people busy while they postponed the completion and release of Ps3.

PsP 'go' Will be no different. Except the only reason for it this time is Ps3 isnt making enough money, and, y'know...they want money. Like everyone. :P

I agree, if you give people something give them an incentive to buy it, let them download 3 free games and make some Indie games cost like a dollar that are REALLY fun.

As for the original PSP being bad? no. Just no. It is neither a sales failure (50 million) or a library failure (Over 60 games that I want but thats just me) and it's a home brew WONDER.

MY problem with the Go is, does it still support backwards compatability. Why buy a Go if I can't play my Super Robot Wars games on it?

What happened to the old Sony? You know, the one that made the PS2? They need to sit down, pull their heads out their asses and find a way to fix the disasters that are the PS3 and PSP(or the PSP Go now)

I'd just go with the other plan, and buy an old PSP. If I was into portable gaming.

Is it just me or PSP Go is becoming the new Wii in terms of annoying and overused puns/jokes.

I don't know how they can justify so much extra to buy the console in Europe. I have a PSP, and I love it. I mainly use it as a mp3 player, but it's also used to browse the web, and to watch tv via my PS3 when I'm away. I have yet to see a reason to upgrade to a Go.

I don't see this as an "upgrade" or anything else of that matter. This is an attempt to capitalize on the fact that people don't seem to have a problem throwing they're money away on novelty.

Anyone that has held out this long on a PSP doesn't want one and probably never will.

There is literally NO reason to upgrade if you have a 2000+ model. Reason being - games will be supported for both models, you can still DL your game with an older model.

It has bluetooth.....so what? It has a smaller screen, cheaper parts, NO UMD (i don't really care about that) but it does slide open.....maybe i will forgo my current model, my 30+ games that I won't be able to play (even if they will do some conversion, what games will be allowed, how long will it take, now i have to learn new software = NO) for a cheaper piece of plastic with a smaller screen for $80 more then the current so that I can slide it open.....
NO

Oh yeah, is it me or do the buttons seem smaller too?

GuNsLiNgEr X:
The PSP has always been utter shit, and the PSP Go is no different.

The PSP is a fine device if you own a PS3 and actually use both in conjunction. Remote play is easily the best feature I've ever seen in a console/handheld.

If you just have a PSP for 'the games', then yeah, it's not that great. It's very much like the PS3. If you actually use all of what it can do, it's great.

h0m1cyde:
Anyone that has held out this long on a PSP doesn't want one and probably never will.

I recently got a PSP due to the fact that I can download all future releases on the PSN. Part of a handheld is portability. UMD's make it less portable. So, this move interested me and got me to buy one.

One of my cousins is buying one as well because of this.

Onmi:
I agree, if you give people something give them an incentive to buy it, let them download 3 free games and make some Indie games cost like a dollar that are REALLY fun.

As for the original PSP being bad? no. Just no. It is neither a sales failure (50 million) or a library failure (Over 60 games that I want but thats just me) and it's a home brew WONDER.

MY problem with the Go is, does it still support backwards compatability. Why buy a Go if I can't play my Super Robot Wars games on it?

Hopefully they learned from their console shenanigans, that backwards compatibility is an important concept for a lot of consumers, and put it in.

As for the article, I completely agree about the pricing being the thing that is going to stop most people. I don't really like sony games, but this thing looks like it would be fun, but not fun enough for 250 bones, plus up to 40 more for games.

Even the PS2 was a bit of a design nightmare to start with. Blocky, bizarre power button/switch placement, notoriously fragile, and a headache to program for... but it had a significant head-start over the Xbox, and the Gamecube was off in la-la land as far as design and marketing were concerned. They were in the right place at the right time; and now they think they can continue to make the same shoddy design decisions and get away with it. They think their luck and timing is a result of their decisions - the PS2 was well-timed and well-marketed. Those factors are no longer in their favour. The result is stupidity like the PSP Go.

You do understand that Indigo Dingo will be here flaming your ass, right?

But yes, I agree with you completely.

On a side note: I only keep my PS3 for playing PS2 games now, and that's rather sad.

GuNsLiNgEr X:
The PSP has always been utter shit, and the PSP Go is no different.

Oh shut up.

The PSP had a rough start, but in the meantime has a good amount of games out on it.
And there's a bunch of good games coming up, too.

Sony however, is being retarded. They've only just released a second revision, and they already announce a third.
I'd say I'm hoping that they will release all games for all regions (or at least let Europeans get US-only games), but knowing Sony, that won't happen.

At any rate, I'm sticking to my good ol' PSP-2000. BRB, playing some FFVII for old times sake

BobisOnlyBob:
Even the PS2 was a bit of a design nightmare to start with. Blocky, bizarre power button/switch placement, notoriously fragile, and a headache to program for... but it had a significant head-start over the Xbox, and the Gamecube was off in la-la land as far as design and marketing were concerned. They were in the right place at the right time; and now they think they can continue to make the same shoddy design decisions and get away with it. They think their luck and timing is a result of their decisions - the PS2 was well-timed and well-marketed. Those factors are no longer in their favour. The result is stupidity like the PSP Go.

Nintendo and Sony have switched places in this current console generation. Nintendo thought that the popularity of the N64 would continue on with the GC, but the PS2 was better in pretty much every way except when it came to not breaking when you dropped it. Nintendo realised that they had been lazy and got to work. Sony needs to realise this, but it seems like they haven't, at least not yet.

The PSP is amazingly succesful, especially considering the last real competitor in the handheld market was the Gamegear. Staying in the market for more than a year, and staying competitive, at that, shows that Sony knows how to design a handheld. There were/are problems, but there always are. What they don't have a good grasp on is why people upgrade. Sony appears to be thinking that people will buy the lastest tech just because it is new, so they didn't really put a lot of effort into distinguishing the PSPGo from the PSP. The DS and DSi have one major difference: digital distribution. Sure, it can't play GBA games, but you can't be backwards compatable for everything. The PSPGo just offers more of what you already have if you own a PSP, so there is no real reason to buy a PSPGo if you don't feel the desire to have the absolute latest tech out there.

Gerazzi:
You do understand that Indigo Dingo will be here flaming your ass, right?

But yes, I agree with you completely.

On a side note: I only keep my PS3 for playing PS2 games now, and that's rather sad.

See and this is what acts as flame bait for Indigo. But just for humours sake let me respond by pointing out that -Seraph- is the PSP Fanboy beyond all belief and that HE is who will be here in any amount of time to flame your monkey asses.

And if your using your PS3 to only play PS2 games, well it sucks to be you then doesn't it. You must have very high standards for video games if you can't find one game in this current gen worth playing released this year. Or maybe you haven't been searching, or maybe you have been searching and found some that you thought you might like but.

And if I understand this correctly you can NOT return video games in america.

Didn't want to waste the money on it. For whatever reason it may be you are correct in that it is sad, as not only does it reflect on you the gamer, but the statement was so short how could we tell. The PS2 is still a console kicking ass in the market with new games, so are you playing new games for it or old classics? maybe your waiting for some new PS3 release games, maybe your waiting for some multi-console games, maybe your waiting until you can pirate games for the PS3 I simply do not know! So please expand on this point so that we may actually get a view into the psyche of Gerazzi.

super_smash_jesus:

Hopefully they learned from their console shenanigans, that backwards compatibility is an important concept for a lot of consumers, and put it in.

As for the article, I completely agree about the pricing being the thing that is going to stop most people. I don't really like sony games, but this thing looks like it would be fun, but not fun enough for 250 bones, plus up to 40 more for games.

Actually polls show that BC is one of the least requested features (I Expect though that voice chat would take precedent) although I personally wonder why they don't just make a PS2 emulator, put it on PSN for $50 or so, and sell it there, they must have emulation software from the original run so it shouldn't cost anything, hell if you NEED to get the guys who did PCSX2 and mod the code, you don't even have to pay them because you can SUE there asses if they don't like it.

But anyway as I said my problem is the current PSP models? I can get games from america and japan that don't come out in Australia. I don't wanna buy them and be unable to play them on the Go for whatever reason. This includes future releases like Disgaea 2 on PSP.

On that note they ARE doing a 'Trade in your UMDs for the digital version" or something like that for people who want to upgrade but does that cover titles brought from overseas? *shrugs*

EDIT: Oh and SOMETHING else before I forget, the Go is not for the People who own a PSP allready, you people with the 2000/3000 this isn't aimed at you. this is aimed at the people who haven't brought one yet.

Onmi:

Gerazzi:
You do understand that Indigo Dingo will be here flaming your ass, right?

But yes, I agree with you completely.

On a side note: I only keep my PS3 for playing PS2 games now, and that's rather sad.

See and this is what acts as flame bait for Indigo. But just for humours sake let me respond by pointing out that -Seraph- is the PSP Fanboy beyond all belief and that HE is who will be here in any amount of time to flame your monkey asses.

And if your using your PS3 to only play PS2 games, well it sucks to be you then doesn't it. You must have very high standards for video games if you can't find one game in this current gen worth playing released this year. Or maybe you haven't been searching, or maybe you have been searching and found some that you thought you might like but.

And if I understand this correctly you can NOT return video games in america.

Didn't want to waste the money on it. For whatever reason it may be you are correct in that it is sad, as not only does it reflect on you the gamer, but the statement was so short how could we tell. The PS2 is still a console kicking ass in the market with new games, so are you playing new games for it or old classics? maybe your waiting for some new PS3 release games, maybe your waiting for some multi-console games, maybe your waiting until you can pirate games for the PS3 I simply do not know! So please expand on this point so that we may actually get a view into the psyche of Gerazzi.

super_smash_jesus:

Hopefully they learned from their console shenanigans, that backwards compatibility is an important concept for a lot of consumers, and put it in.

As for the article, I completely agree about the pricing being the thing that is going to stop most people. I don't really like sony games, but this thing looks like it would be fun, but not fun enough for 250 bones, plus up to 40 more for games.

Actually polls show that BC is one of the least requested features (I Expect though that voice chat would take precedent) although I personally wonder why they don't just make a PS2 emulator, put it on PSN for $50 or so, and sell it there, they must have emulation software from the original run so it shouldn't cost anything, hell if you NEED to get the guys who did PCSX2 and mod the code, you don't even have to pay them because you can SUE there asses if they don't like it.

But anyway as I said my problem is the current PSP models? I can get games from america and japan that don't come out in Australia. I don't wanna buy them and be unable to play them on the Go for whatever reason. This includes future releases like Disgaea 2 on PSP.

On that note they ARE doing a 'Trade in your UMDs for the digital version" or something like that for people who want to upgrade but does that cover titles brought from overseas? *shrugs*

Jesus Christ you can type fast.
But to further my point I will say that I don't have the money to go out and buy the PS3 games that I'm drooling over right now, InFamous, Prototype, and of course Red Faction.
So that would be the main reason why I'm playing PS2 games on the PS3, other than I live in America and can't return the bloody thing.

Gerazzi:

Jesus Christ you can type fast.
But to further my point I will say that I don't have the money to go out and buy the PS3 games that I'm drooling over right now, InFamous, Prototype, and of course Red Faction.
So that would be the main reason why I'm playing PS2 games on the PS3, other than I live in America and can't return the bloody thing.

Thank you for the complement on the typing. And yes I did ask for clarification 1st of all because it was a very broad statement. For instance I have a 360 in the household that hasn't been touched in over a year. That sounds bad, going further into it I remind people I have a Gaming PC, a PS3, a PS2 and a Wii AND a DS. So that makes it seem less like "Their are no good games for the 360" and more "He doesn't have the time" also the fact it belongs to my brother. and the only games that he brought that were any good (Bioshock, Crackdown) he returned.

So the broad statement could be taken as an insult, but the more specific just shows your in an economic situation which I totally sympathize with. As I have spent the majority of my life buying so few games I estimate to catch up on all the good games I missed alone? not going into this gen? just last gen on the PS2 would cost me over $2000 Aussie.

Thats not counting THIS gen. it's a sad state of affairs when I go into a shop and I got a pile of games as tall as me and i'm approaching 6''4

I would have only bought it if it had a Second Analog Stick, since it doesen't, No sale.
Thats just one simple convenience people don't seem to get.
Christ Sony, it's not that hard to listen to the fans..

My girlfriend bought a used PSP specifically for Finaly Fantasy7: Crisis Core. I cautioned her against it, but to no avail. She beat that game in a weekend. She went back and and it over with more side missions, took her nearly a week, but a lot less hours of actual play time.

Since then the PSP as languished in a drawer of her dresser. She's considered selling it a couple times but keeps it "just in case".

Her DS, conversely, gets daily play, sometimes for hours at a time even with a 360, PS3 and Wii all in the house. She'll sit in front of a 56" screen with all three systems hooked up and play Civilzation Revolution, Professor Layton, Harvest Moon: Island of Happiness and Nintendogs for hours and hours.

The point of this story? Sony has bigger problems than aesthetics and the used game market. They need to get on board with third party developers, they need to rethink pricing and support, and they desperately need to find some way to make their PSP more fun to play.

I like my psp, I dont use it much at the moment, but its for travel and i dont travel much at the moment. Its pretty much the only show in town for somebody looking for a 360/PS3 experience on the move. The type of games on the ds dont generally appeal to me (Well, ok I would like pokemon for old times sake), and the PSP has a decent sized screen and video playback.

I think these facts have helped it reach the 50 million sold mark, and its only now sony have really woken up to it (Perhaps because other ventures have failed so far ?). They seem to be taking a 2 pronged approach, more games and the PSP Go. The first is a great idea (duh) as they have a big user base. The second seems dense, its a sidegrade at best, reduced size and bluetooth for a UMD Drive and larger display. The biggest problem is that 50 million have been sold, surely thats approaching market saturation ?

Id have my doubts about an app store, 1$ games tend to be throwaway, the PSP is more for core gamers who want to play frequently. The reason for the iPhones success is more down to the cult of apple and gadget fans that the appstore imo. I think however may sony Ericsson could make inroads with a psp/phone hybrid ? Maybe not, personally I dont like the iphone idea, I want my phone to have decent battery life, and using it as a console will reduce this.

Anyway, I have high hopes for the new games, they look brilliant and hopefully it will make people around the world blow the dust off there psps and use them again.

The PSPGo just seems like a joke, it really does.

And it seems like if Sony is going the digital distribution route, then the games need to be cheaper. This makes sense, since there's nothing physical that has to be produced, dropping those costs out. If the downloadable games are cheaper than the physical games, more people would buy a Go. But if the costs of the game are the same, plus the Go costs more than a regular PSP? That just feels like I'm being ripped off.

xxhazyshadowsxx:
I would have only bought it if it had a Second Analog Stick, since it doesen't, No sale.
Thats just one simple convenience people don't seem to get.
Christ Sony, it's not that hard to listen to the fans..

A. this is not a PSP2 it's a PSP for people who don't HAVE a PSP yet,
B. considering minus the camera in some platformers (Controllable by the shoulder buttons) and aiming in an FPS (Which has never been a big genre for the handhelds) their is very little reason to have a second analog stick except to extend dev time by a lil.

i'm just saying.

oshin:
I like my psp, I dont use it much at the moment, but its for travel and i dont travel much at the moment. Its pretty much the only show in town for somebody looking for a 360/PS3 experience on the move. The type of games on the ds dont generally appeal to me (Well, ok I would like pokemon for old times sake), and the PSP has a decent sized screen and video playback.

I think these facts have helped it reach the 50 million sold mark, and its only now sony have really woken up to it (Perhaps because other ventures have failed so far ?). They seem to be taking a 2 pronged approach, more games and the PSP Go. The first is a great idea (duh) as they have a big user base. The second seems dense, its a sidegrade at best, reduced size and bluetooth for a UMD Drive and larger display. The biggest problem is that 50 million have been sold, surely thats approaching market saturation ?

Id have my doubts about an app store, 1$ games tend to be throwaway, the PSP is more for core gamers who want to play frequently. The reason for the iPhones success is more down to the cult of apple and gadget fans that the appstore imo. I think however may sony Ericsson could make inroads with a psp/phone hybrid ? Maybe not, personally I dont like the iphone idea, I want my phone to have decent battery life, and using it as a console will reduce this.

Anyway, I have high hopes for the new games, they look brilliant and hopefully it will make people around the world blow the dust off there psps and use them again.

See there isn't a problem with making a handheld for core gamers, their is a problem with making a handheld for core gamers and marketing it against something which aims to be popular and trendy like the iPhone. competing against the DS is a no go because... well it's NINTENDO okay the day they LOSE dominance of the handheld market is the day Gabe Newell loses some weight. So really since the Go is being marketed for people who DON'T have a PSP allready and towards being trendy for CHRISTS SAKE don't have everything on it be aimed at the core gamer which it is.

I still won't buy one. I worked at a store that sold one at launch and in the two years there no one actually purchased one from us. I would pull it out and look at the demo disc and and I actually bought the Pulp Fiction UMD but I just watched the DVD version instead of "...teeny, weeny Eye-Strain-O vision" UMD because it kind a sucked. Maybe the PSP has gotten cool since then but the last time I played the PSP was at the first E for All. Two minutes later I got tired of fighting the controls and haven't touched one since. Sony has every right to make as many version of the PSP they want at any price they want and as a consumer I have every right to ignore every version and spend my money on real necessities like food and drugs during this global recession.

ill buy it if i can hack it and play old snes roms on it.

Rigs83:
I still won't buy one. I worked at a store that sold one at launch and in the two years there no one actually purchased one from us. I would pull it out and look at the demo disc and and I actually bought the Pulp Fiction UMD but I just watched the DVD version instead of "...teeny, weeny Eye-Strain-O vision" UMD because it kind a sucked. Maybe the PSP has gotten cool since then but the last time I played the PSP was at the first E for All. Two minutes later I got tired of fighting the controls and haven't touched one since. Sony has every right to make as many version of the PSP they want at any price they want and as a consumer I have every right to ignore every version and spend my money on real necessities like food and drugs during this global recession.

Okay it's 3:30 am so I dunno if that was half irony/satire/done for humur or whatever or if it was all serious

So at this point it's simply smarter to buy the 3000 model and get a 16 gb memory?

Onmi:

Rigs83:
I still won't buy one. I worked at a store that sold one at launch and in the two years there no one actually purchased one from us. I would pull it out and look at the demo disc and and I actually bought the Pulp Fiction UMD but I just watched the DVD version instead of "...teeny, weeny Eye-Strain-O vision" UMD because it kind a sucked. Maybe the PSP has gotten cool since then but the last time I played the PSP was at the first E for All. Two minutes later I got tired of fighting the controls and haven't touched one since. Sony has every right to make as many version of the PSP they want at any price they want and as a consumer I have every right to ignore every version and spend my money on real necessities like food and drugs during this global recession.

Okay it's 3:30 am so I dunno if that was half irony/satire/done for humor or whatever or if it was all serious

Just my personal opinion on the whole PSP threads. I am to old to really be passionate about any of the consoles, I still feel sad that the Dreamcast died. I really can't justify to myself spending so much money on any of the consoles when I would rather spend my money having good times with friends. I am of legal drinking age and ever since games seem kind of frivolous unless they are awesome and I have heard of few awesome PSP games, great games but no killer app level game or games that stand up on their own to justify the purchase. My Xbox died, I won't purchase a 360 and someone stole my DS but I did not realize it for weeks because I hardly ever used it except when it got dull at work during the holidays, and I tried WOW but hated the grind and quit after five months. I tried to rekindle my passion for games by going to E for All but had most of my fun just getting lost in LA and seeing the Pacific Ocean for the first time at Venice Beach.

Don't own a PSP, but I do like them. There doesn't seem to be much of a reason to get a PSPGo though. You can get a Ds lite for under half that, and as soon as its released, the price on regular PSP's will go down so you might as well pick up one of those and save your money.

Saphatorael:

Sony however, is being retarded. They've only just released a second revision, and they already announce a third.

Wrong. PSP GO would be the 4th revision (1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series and now the PSP GO)

I do wonder, really... if Sony thought through the market for the PSP properly.

I know that sounds harsh, but i half get the impression they saw Nintendo doing well over the years with the Gameboy and it's billion iterations and thought 'Hey there must be some money in there for us'.

I'm a fairly average gamer. I am in my mid twenties. Since i was about fourteen i have known only one person with a portable console, my old manager. Who used it on the train, until he moved closer to work.. and then never used again. Granted, that was a PSP but really is the market for portable consoles just younger people, and the more 'hardcore'.

But then, off the top of my head i can think of at least six people with iPhones/iPod Touch but none of them ever bought it as a games console. They bought it as a Phone, mostly then a Media Player, i'd get one just for Google Maps. Gaming is a low priority, but... they all have games on them.

I'd hazard that some here will shout at me for saying that portable consoles are for kids, but lets face it, people on this forum are not the complete demographic of gaming and if you own more than one console, you defiantly aren't (unless you have been forced to buy a Wii, this is accepted).

sigh... yet another article turned into a lets hate on sony thread...

Danzorz:
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You can walk into the iTunes app store right now with $5.00 in your account and walk out with hundreds of free apps, Peggle and a handful of other pay games. With the PSP Go, $5.00 gets you a quarter of the way to one of the less expensive games, like Patapon 2. The flaw, my friends, is not with the system price, it's with the lack of an average price drop on the actual content.
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THANK YOU!
For the love of god, anyone notice how 10 great games for 10 bucks beats one great game for 100 bucks?
Duhhhhhhhh.
Not to mention the arrogance in their marketing strategy, I agree they learned nothing.

Mostly i agree, I like Valve's 5 games for $50 approach, especially since they were kick arse games.

I don't like Sony at all, in fact I hope they don't survive long enough to finish their new PSP, but they got something mystifyingly right with the PS2, something everyone, but Sony, should pick up on and use.

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