Escape to the Movies: Atlas Shrugged

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Atlas Shrugged

A shrug is about all this movie is worth.

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I didn't even know they were making a movie of this.

The book was heavy handed and pretty dull. So if they've removed the abstract lunacy. I probably won't bother with this.

I've still got The other Rand books to get through.

LOL at the Bioshock reference at the end.

I wont see it, end of story.

I don't know why people think Ayn Rand's work has no redeeming value.

The Fountainhead as a book was significant for me personally, because it snapped me out of my teenage angst and got me working towards my life goals.

OT: Would rather see a Bioshock movie.

I still have Atlas Shrugged on my bookshelf, ready to read after Ulysses, and my degree.

It's a shame that a movie couldn't pull off a good enough adaptation, so I'll have to trawl through Rand's writing to get at her message...

I like how apparently Bioshock, a videogame, captured Rand's philosophy better than a movie dedicated to her work.

Go games I guess.

Oh, wow. I didn't even know that they were making a movie of Atlus Shrugged. As I guessed, it's probably terrible.

So I guess you could say the message of the film got...
*puts on sunglasses*
De-Railed
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Not much of a surprise that a movie did a poor book adaptation, but I'm interested to see Dorian Gray which looked kinda interesting.

My take on Ayn Rands objectivism, I personally don't believe we can trust people to do the right thing, it's just human nature for people to put their interests first before anyone else or society. I have the same feeling about Reagnomics. Not to say that EVERYONE is a self centered jerk, just a lot.

I don't even think the books that great but that looked awful. To be fair the books is well written when it's not having characters give massive speeches but as fiction its far too heavy handed and as philosophy it's just bad. Really her philosophy is pretty much Nietzche's but toned down which makes it less abohrent but also less interesting.

But once again the movie just looks awful.

I'm not surprised that The Fountainhead (1949) was a better movie. That's mostly because Rand wrote the screenplay herself.

Maybe this move will inspire someone to make a reboot with a better screenplay and a more well known cast.

Until he mentioned it at the end, I was confusing Atlas Shrugged with The Fountainhead. I read the latter and I can't remember if I read the former. But I fucking hated The Fountainhead. God. Damn. Awful. I mean, I still loved Bioshock, but I tend to detest anything associated with Ayn Rand, the pretentious, ruskie cunt.

loled at the Tony Jaa reference

HankMan:
So I guess you could say the message of the film got...
*puts on sunglasses*
De-Railed
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

That was... I'm not sure if awesome or awful. It was AWESUMFUL!

OT: I didn't even know that this movie even existed, but with this video, I doubt I will go to see it.

After dropping the ball a bit last week, I think that was a big improvement

even if could make a rather cynical statement about the start of the review, I'll retain because the rest of the review good.

Good god that was a cringy ending o.<

Well, if it's so bad it's boring I find that to be worse than if it's a disaster because seeing a disaster can be quite compelling (see Battlefield Earth).

On Rand though, I found her to be a childish hypocrite unaware of what a society needs in order to actually function. Like Fontaine said "somebody needs to scrub the toilets".

And Now i'm going to play bioshock again.
Funny how a videogame better captured the themes of objectivism than the movie

Didn't expect this movie to be entertaining.

I actually like how Bioshock was probably the best adaptation and deconstruction of the works of Ayn Rand during its best parts and achieves what this movie could not do- too bad it's from an 'inferior' form of entertainment and doesn't just give Ayn Rand's novel a tongue bath, so the political wingnuts on the right would never know anything about it.

I suppose I am biased, though, since I read Atlas Shrugged for an extra-credit reading group in high school and was one of the handful of people in the group that didn't think it was anything to write home about, let alone something that deserves all the attention that it has gotten along with Rand herself. All I ever read and saw of Ayn Rand was an astronomically selfish, racist bitch, constantly avoiding criticism and other realities with an equally ugly personality to match her fugly appearance. Also she died while on Medicare AND Social Security... Couldn't even follow by example

That's pretty disappointing, if not entirely surprising. There is a spot of hope, though; that the creation of this film might open the way for more capable people to make a better adaption in the future. In the mean time, I guess I'll just read the actual book once I'm done trucking through The Fountainhead.

Here's what I don't get. So many people are okay with objectivism but also love being a liberal.
One is about not controlling things. The other IS about MORE regulation.

You really hit my feelings on Rand's work: a nice idea that would work better with some humility behind it. I wish she'd lived long enough to deal with Scott Adams' Dilbert cartoons portraying her "enlightened ones" as bumbling idiots keeping the real workers from being productive. It's like I say when someone blames Bill Gates for problems with windows: what part of the software do you really think he worked on in the last 15 - 20 years? She at least would claim she'd ask no one to make a sacrifice for her, but that requires far more humility and self awareness than is possessed byt he average human.

Didn't expect much from the movie beyond, yes, her more "out there" ideas would be left out in favor of the teenage angst level corporate diatride about how "everyone's being mean to me".

Whether you agree with Rand or not (I do partly), but the book was a master piece. Which is also the reason why a movie like this is doomed; making a movie about Harry Potter is one thing, because you don't need to know the subtleties to get it, but making a movie based on a book like this simply hás to result in a caricature of the original.

Anyone find kinda strange Ayn Rand would pick a heiress as main protagonist?

I mean the very mechanic of inheritance kinda throw a big wrench in her obsession with self-made man?

Power, wealth, influence and title can all be given to someone through the wealth of someone else solely because that person died (apparently its bad when its taxation, but when its inheritence there's not problem about it) Its pretty damn clear Dagny Taggart wouldn't have been in the position she was, had the oppornity she had if she had not been in a family.

(althoguh since her brother is shown as being unable to turn the compagny around and that she romance an actual self-made man, I suppose we are ought to see a difference)

Liberal generally refers to lack of social control with economic control. Objectivism is no social or economic control. They're not really opposites of each other. Many kinds of liberal could be seen as objectivism with some governmental economic control.

Redd the Sock:
You really hit my feelings on Rand's work: a nice idea that would work better with some humility behind it. I wish she'd lived long enough to deal with Scott Adams' Dilbert cartoons portraying her "enlightened ones" as bumbling idiots keeping the real workers from being productive. It's like I say when someone blames Bill Gates for problems with windows: what part of the software do you really think he worked on in the last 15 - 20 years? She at least would claim she'd ask no one to make a sacrifice for her, but that requires far more humility and self awareness than is possessed byt he average human.

Didn't expect much from the movie beyond, yes, her more "out there" ideas would be left out in favor of the teenage angst level corporate diatride about how "everyone's being mean to me".

I would have liked to see her live long enough to see enron and a bunch of people who pretty much devoted themselfs to her end up self destructing because they werent as smart as they thought

Is it odd that i made popcorn then remembered this was going to be on today? om nom nom

Hey bob, if u want a truly awful movie, watch alice in murderland. I just rented it and it is truly the worst movie i have ever watched.

...I will watch Moviebob's next video...

ace_of_something:
Here's what I don't get. So many people are okay with objectivism but also love being a liberal.
One is about not controlling things. The other IS about that.

Just coming out here and saying that I hate objectivism with a passion. The world can be managed by the more visionary populace, but it has to be controlled by everyone.

That said, an actual good movie on Atlas Shrugged would've been something I'd seriously consider watching. Unfortunate that it apparently isn't.

I didn't even know this movie was coming out ... and I guess it was better this way.

I kinda thought you were going to review Water For Elephants. And yes, I saw the snippet at the end - i.e. do not watch - but I was looking forward to hearing you talk about specific elements of the movie. Like is the acting any good. Or even more specifically, is Robert Pattinson's acting any good. Oh well.

I'm glad you went ahead and did your homework on how to properly pronounce her name.

I wasn't planning on watching the movie anyway, but I guess I can warn my roommate about it.

I'm waiting for your review in two weeks that I know is coming. I wonder what kind of hammer you're going to bring to it.

Not surprised that this was a disappointment and that so few people knew this was coming out.

Redem:
Anyone find kinda strange Ayn Rand would pick a heiress as main protagonist?

I mean the very mechanic of inheritance kinda throw a big wrench in her obsession with self-made man?

Power, wealth, influence and title can all be given to someone through the wealth of someone else solely because that person died (apparently its bad when its taxation, but when its inheritence there's not problem about it) Its pretty damn clear Dagny Taggart wouldn't have been in the position she was, had the oppornity she had if she had not been in a family.

(althoguh since her brother is shown as being unable to turn the compagny around and that she romance an actual self-made man, I suppose we are ought to see a difference)

No one ever said Ayn Rand wasn't highly selective about things. In her personal life, for example, she got mad over a lover for getting married to the point where she completely disowned him. The punchline? SHE WAS CHEATING ON HER HUSBAND WITH HIM. Plus she was highly uncomfortable with evolution since it would mean that at least SOME things are out of the control of human hands and have to be left up to nature. Which, to her probably, was about as good as mentioning GOD

i7omahawki:
I like how apparently Bioshock, a videogame, captured Rand's philosophy better than a movie dedicated to her work.

Go games I guess.

The game has the luxury of having longer than two hours to run its story.

Redem:
Anyone find kinda strange Ayn Rand would pick a heiress as main protagonist?

I mean the very mechanic of inheritance kinda throw a big wrench in her obsession with self-made man?

Power, wealth, influence and title can all be given to someone through the wealth of someone else solely because that person died (apparently its bad when its taxation, but when its inheritence there's not problem about it) Its pretty damn clear Dagny Taggart wouldn't have been in the position she was, had the oppornity she had if she had not been in a family.

(althoguh since her brother is shown as being unable to turn the compagny around and that she romance an actual self-made man, I suppose we are ought to see a difference)

I'm not neccesarly an objectivist. More of a libertarian actually, but I think I can answer that.

The difference here is that when it comes to inheritance someone is choosing to pass their legacy onto another individual. If I lived my life well, amassed wealth, then willingly gave that wealth to my children after death it isn't a violation of objectivist principles per say. Objectivism is about ruling your own life, and if your desire is to leave your fortune to your heirs then that's fine.

Taxation on the other hand is the forceful confiscation of wealth for the purpose of funding the state.

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