Movie Defense Force: World War Z - Despite The Title, A Great Zombie Flick

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It's rare that an adaptation can manage to pull off a good movie while still being a piss poor adaptation.

A lot of this is pretty much exactly how I feel about the Hellboy movies.

Terrible, awful, no good, very bad adaptations of the source material.
Still pretty damn fun Supernatural/Action flicks in their own right.

For crying out loud. THERE ARE NO ZOMBIES IN 28 DAYS LATER!!! It's about a virus that was genetically made to examine overwhelming aggression. No one is undead, just very, very angry. No zombies... Right!!!

LifeCharacter:

Do the zombies (I Am Legend has vampires, btw) actually have superhuman speed and strength? I mean, people always seem pretty capable of outrunning them and overpowering them. The only real danger is that they always sprint towards their targets, don't care about pain or getting hurt, and generally come in groups. They might have good endurance to be sprinting all the time, but we never really see them run marathons, just chase after a human for short periods of time.

Actually, there are a couple instances of superhuman zombie strength in WWZ. In the Israel section you see a zombie push its arm through a metal-mesh grate and lift up a soldier in full kit with one arm. That's well more than two-hundred pounds; with a single bicep curl. And in the America section, zombies [I]headbutt[/i] their way through car windshields.

And that's not all. The zombies will bend or even break the behavioural rules that the movie set down for them. Zombies are relentless and tactless hunters, but one will hide silently in an airplane refreshment cupboard, in an airplane FULL of living, breathing, edible people, until the time is just right for them the pop out Jack-in-the-box style to nom on a flight attendant. Zombies are attracted to noise, but not the noise that other zombies make; only edible humans are capable of knocking things over. I know there was another one that galled the hell out of me, but I cannot recall what it was.

Westaway:
Jim forgot to mention that it is some of the most blatant Israeli propaganda in a Hollywood film released in recent years.

I take offense at this comment. 1. The book was already super pro Israel, which even as an Israeli I saw as odd and unlikely. 2. Jerusalem makes a great set piece. It looks great, the narrow streets make this a lot of fun, and the city itself as a thematic importance that can't be beat. 3. How many Hollywood films actually feature Israeli propaganda. Your comment acts like that's a normal occurrence. It would be like saying that Transformers 4 is the most blatant pro Chinese government propaganda from Hollywood in the recent years. Fact is, there is almost NO (and none off the top of my head) pro-Chinese government propaganda coming out of Hollywood. In fact, the only other movie that I can think of that mentions Israeli actions was Munich, and that movie was hated by many Zionist organization and ended with the main character, the Mossad agent, having a mental breakdown because of all the horrible things he did. Not to mention that that was also based on a historical account (loosely of course).

kinda weird to call the book "super pro Israel" given

the point the book makes about the Israelis is that as a country they are basically "in a state of constant readiness" and are open to the idea of existential threat in a way other nations are not because of who they are historically as a people and their geopolitical situation.

basically, and although it may sound crass, the Israelis are basically structurally and mentally shitting themselves from the world around them at the beginning of the war and so they have a huge mental and structural head start on everyone else when they rest of the planet is still wallowing in willful ignorance and/or denial....as such they are the only country to pretty quickly "seriously believe" what's happening and institute the kind of rigid national quarantine actually required to matter at the very start of the war.

and i don't think that's "super pro Israel" as much as a fairly astute analysis and projection.

Well honestly I avoided the movie because I'm rather sick of zombie media in general... so yeah...

World War Z infuriates me because while both it and How to train your dragon "took an excellent book and dragged it through the mud", people look at me as if I'm crazy when I criticize HTTYD while shouting abuse at WWZ.

You can't forget that WWZ is a good movie in it's own right just as you can't forget that HTTYD completely bastardized an excellent novel.

Jimothy Sterling:

Although having little connection to the popular book asides sharing a name, World War Z is a pretty damn good film.

Not to undermine your point but I feel like this has, more or less, been said before. The biggest complaint that people had about this movie was how little to nothing it had to do with the book.

There's allot of interesting things to be said about the movie, like you rightfully point out. It felt like a natural evolution from the zombie sub genre (the so called "rage virus" version) that was coined by 28 days later but that's where it should have stood its ground. Probably its biggest strength (and arguably one of its weaknesses) was its main plot point[1]. The director compared the fluid movements of mindless worker ants to zombie mob movements, which was rather innovative. All of these things can be considered to be strong points for this film.

It's therefore rather ironic that none of those aforementioned points can be found in the book, while all the strengths of the novel can't be found in the film. Thus the whole idea of tying these two works together ends up doing nothing but disservice to the movie release. Imagine being a rapper who's advertised as Beethoven's successor. It doesn't matter how good you are, in your respective field. It doesn't matter if you're the best damn rapper out there. You're not Beethoven because your work is nothing like his. Fans of classical work will universally pan you for being nothing like what they know and love, while the rapping community won't feel particularly excited about some artist who's being compared to a songwriter, who's been dead for 200 years.

But enough of stupid analogies. Point being, the film should have stood on its own merits. If they wanted to make a movie that captured the book, they should have dressed it up like an alternative history mockumentary/docufiction or however you like to coin the term.

[1]

Ehh... no. The movie might be a semi-decent action flick, but it has less of a zombie movie than any Resident Evil.

The_State:

LifeCharacter:

Do the zombies (I Am Legend has vampires, btw) actually have superhuman speed and strength? I mean, people always seem pretty capable of outrunning them and overpowering them. The only real danger is that they always sprint towards their targets, don't care about pain or getting hurt, and generally come in groups. They might have good endurance to be sprinting all the time, but we never really see them run marathons, just chase after a human for short periods of time.

Actually, there are a couple instances of superhuman zombie strength in WWZ. In the Israel section you see a zombie push its arm through a metal-mesh grate and lift up a soldier in full kit with one arm. That's well more than two-hundred pounds; with a single bicep curl. And in the America section, zombies [I]headbutt[/i] their way through car windshields.

And that's not all. The zombies will bend or even break the behavioural rules that the movie set down for them. Zombies are relentless and tactless hunters, but one will hide silently in an airplane refreshment cupboard, in an airplane FULL of living, breathing, edible people, until the time is just right for them the pop out Jack-in-the-box style to nom on a flight attendant. Zombies are attracted to noise, but not the noise that other zombies make; only edible humans are capable of knocking things over. I know there was another one that galled the hell out of me, but I cannot recall what it was.

Not really a behavioural rule of the zombies, but one plot hole that bugged me was that the military guys on the ship said that the zombies spread really fast through airplanes.
Which is bullshit, since there is not way that a plane stays in the air for multiple hours, lands savely and then lets everyone go their seperate ways when ALL THE PASSENGERS ARE RAGING MANIACS. We even see what happens in the movie when a single zombie get aboard a plane. The plane crashes and everybody that isn't a protagonist dies. Nothing spreads that way.

I totally agree. I really enjoyed it. I've never read the book, but this is still coming from someone who doesn't really like the whole zombie sub-culture.

No no no no no no no no no no fuck NOOOOOOOOOOO.

World War Z is a fucking atrocious movie even ignoring the book.

It fails on virtually every level. It tries to be a serious story, but it literally has a scene where an important character trips and shoots himself in the head. It tries to be scary, but then has a zombie slamming itself comically against a wall and then another zombie that does hilarious chattery chipmunk teeth. It tries to have action, but then decides to be PG-13 and shit up all of the potentially good scenes.

The CGI for the hordes was absolute garbage. It looked almost exactly like The Matrix Reloaded when all the Smiths are running in and piling around Neo.
As for that inventive scene of them climbing over the wall? I liked it better when it was giant bugs.

The movie can't even be called good on Brad Pitt's merits. I usually like him, but he was completely asleep for the duration of the film.
Add on to that a complete lack of character for every single person in the movie with the possible exception of the female soldier and it only looks worse. Even worse, the characters are morons. Between the previously mentioned suicide scene and the bit where they're sneaking around and one of the absolutely punts a soda can as loudly as possible, I had zero faith in their abilities.

Oh, and the product placement offered further hilarity towards the end when he flees from the zombie horde, then takes a break next to an entire Pepsi machine to get a drink.

Finally, the central idea of the plot was dubious and best and nonsense at worst. Somehow the zombies can sense when someone has a fatal illness, but only a fatal illness will do it. Furthermore, for some reason they actually care that the person has the illness and will not attack them in any way, even if the person is gunning down zombies left and right.

Now I'll admit, there were a few effective scenes. The bit in the apartment building was decent and parts of the scene in the rain on the runway were spooky, but other than a few paltry offerings, World War Z fails on every possible level. The action doesn't work, the characters don't work, the actors don't work, the drama doesn't work, the adventure doesn't work, the suspense doesn't work and the horror doesn't work.

Good try though. It's true that it doesn't deserve to be hated because of the book. No, it deserves to be shit on purely on its own merits.

Sir Thomas Sean Connery:
No no no no no no no no no no fuck NOOOOOOOOOOO.

World War Z is a fucking atrocious movie even ignoring the book.

Seconded.

I'm usually in Jim's corner and quite like Movie Defense Force but in this instance I respectfully disagree with every point Jim made. I didn't watch the movie when it came out because I knew I'd compare it to the book*. Figured giving it a year before watching was more than fair and tried to view it on its own merits. This wound up being the most mentally demeaning exercise I've undertaken since ever.

Terrified I had lost my taste for zombie movies in a hither-to manifested bout of maturity I queued up Rammbock, La Horde and the first couple episodes of The Walking Dead. I am relieved to report that there are _great_ zombie movies out there to be enjoyed AND don't make you feel like you've dropped IQ points when you're done.

WWZ, though, isn't one of these. No way, no how.

*incidentally, why the hell does every would-be defender of WWZ bring this up like making such a comparison is a veneal sin? It's not a generic title they stumbled upon by chance, they _were_ trying to make that book into this movie. AND THEY FAILED. Cite them for it, this is a legit gripe.

This is one of those movies i'm glad i've never read the source material. I had no expectations other than what i saw in the trailers, which was really fast and scary Zombies. It brought back those wonderful memories of 28 days later. Which coincidentally the disease in this movie is almost an exact copy of lol.

If I may:


And:

It's filled with all the cliches of zombie movies and doesn't do ANYTHING to innovate. It sucks more than you do when you try to suck out all the cream from anything filled with cream

btw guys...there is an audio book of World War Z...and its supposed to be really, really good...

check out the cast list...

seriously.

Cast

Max Brooks as The Interviewer
Steve Park as Kwang Jingshu
Frank Kamai as Nury Televadi
Nathan Fillion as Stanley MacDonald
Paul Sorvino as Fernando Oliveira
Ade M'Cormack as Jacob Nyathi
Carl Reiner as Jurgen Warmbrunn
Waleed Zuiater as Saladin Kader
Jay O. Sanders as Bob Archer
Dennis Boutsikaris as General Travis D'Ambrosia
Martin Scorsese as Breckinridge "Breck" Scott
Simon Pegg as Grover Carlson
Denise Crosby as Mary Jo Miller
Bruce Boxleitner as Gavin Blaire
Ajay Naidu as Ajay Shah
Nicki Clyne as Sharon
Jeri Ryan as Maria Zhuganova
Henry Rollins as T. Sean Collins
Maz Jobrani as Ahmed Farahnakian
Mark Hamill as Todd Wainio
Eamonn Walker as Xolelwa Azania / Paul Redeker / David Allen Forbes
Jürgen Prochnow as Philip Adler
David Ogden Stiers as Bohdan Taras Kondratiuk
Michelle Kholos as Jesika Hendricks
Kal Penn as Sardar Khan
Alan Alda as Arthur Sinclair Junior
Rob Reiner as "The Whacko"
Dean Edwards as Joe Muhammad
Frank Darabont as Roy Elliot
Becky Ann Baker as Christina Eliopolis
Parminder Nagra as Barati Palshigar
Brian Tee as Hyungchoi / Michael Choi
Masi Oka as Kondo Tatsumi
Frank Kamai as Tomonaga Ijiro
John Turturro as Seryosha Garcia Alvarez
Ric Young as Admiral Xu Zhicai
Alfred Molina as Terry Knox
John McElroy as Ernesto Olguin
Common as Darnell Hackworth
F. Murray Abraham as Father Sergei Ryzhkov
Rene Auberjonois as Andre Renard

maxben:

I take offense at this comment.

Meaningless

maxben:
1. The book was already super pro Israel, which even as an Israeli I saw as odd and unlikely.

Correct, but hardly unlikely as Brooks is a Zionist.

maxben:
2. Jerusalem makes a great set piece. It looks great, the narrow streets make this a lot of fun, and the city itself as a thematic importance that can't be beat.

It's not propaganda because it's set in Jerusalem.

maxben:
3. How many Hollywood films actually feature Israeli propaganda. Your comment acts like that's a normal occurrence. It would be like saying that Transformers 4 is the most blatant pro Chinese government propaganda from Hollywood in the recent years. Fact is, there is almost NO (and none off the top of my head) pro-Chinese government propaganda coming out of Hollywood. In fact, the only other movie that I can think of that mentions Israeli actions was Munich, and that movie was hated by many Zionist organization and ended with the main character, the Mossad agent, having a mental breakdown because of all the horrible things he did. Not to mention that that was also based on a historical account (loosely of course).

There's certainly more Israeli propaganda than Chinese.

Westaway:

maxben:

I take offense at this comment.

Meaningless

maxben:
1. The book was already super pro Israel, which even as an Israeli I saw as odd and unlikely.

Correct, but hardly unlikely as Brooks is a Zionist.

maxben:
2. Jerusalem makes a great set piece. It looks great, the narrow streets make this a lot of fun, and the city itself as a thematic importance that can't be beat.

It's not propaganda because it's set in Jerusalem.

maxben:
3. How many Hollywood films actually feature Israeli propaganda. Your comment acts like that's a normal occurrence. It would be like saying that Transformers 4 is the most blatant pro Chinese government propaganda from Hollywood in the recent years. Fact is, there is almost NO (and none off the top of my head) pro-Chinese government propaganda coming out of Hollywood. In fact, the only other movie that I can think of that mentions Israeli actions was Munich, and that movie was hated by many Zionist organization and ended with the main character, the Mossad agent, having a mental breakdown because of all the horrible things he did. Not to mention that that was also based on a historical account (loosely of course).

There's certainly more Israeli propaganda than Chinese.

Wow, that's a rude response. First of all, when I say that I take offense it is stating what I feel. Its not an argument, it is merely giving reasons for why I felt the need to respond.

As for Brooks being a Zionist, is he? The only people saying that he is are anti-zionist groups, I haven't seen a quote from him. Anyhow, even if he was, I am a Zionist as well and even so I found his ideas in the book to be weird. Although it is interesting that he thinks that we would give the Palestinians the right of return, which is not a traditionally Zionist idea now is it?

Next, you don't bother explaining why you think its propoganda, but obviously if its set in Jerusalem its going to show the Israeli state doing good to fight zombies (and in this industry "doing good" is how some people talk about propaganda).

Lastly, I was making the point that no, pro-Israeli propaganda is extremely rare. That is why I was mentioning Munich as the only other movie to refer to Israel or Israeli issues off the top of my head, which you could debate certainly. And again, you choose to throw out a meaningless one sentence response as a way of devaluing me as if I am not worth your time or effort. That's not to say that I am, but if you don't want to have a discussion why respond in the first place?

maxben:

Wow, that's a rude response. First of all, when I say that I take offense it is stating what I feel. Its not an argument, it is merely giving reasons for why I felt the need to respond.

I don't particularly care, Chief.

maxben:
As for Brooks being a Zionist, is he? The only people saying that he is are anti-zionist groups, I haven't seen a quote from him. Anyhow, even if he was, I am a Zionist as well and even so I found his ideas in the book to be weird. Although it is interesting that he thinks that we would give the Palestinians the right of return, which is not a traditionally Zionist idea now is it?

I don't think it would be outrageous to assume a Jewish man writing a novel that portrays Israel in a flattering light would be a Zionist, but no, I have no "proof" he is.

maxben:
Next, you don't bother explaining why you think its propoganda, but obviously if its set in Jerusalem its going to show the Israeli state doing good to fight zombies (and in this industry "doing good" is how some people talk about propaganda).

Israel is ultimately destroyed because they are too charitable to the Palestinians by letting them in.

maxben:
Lastly, I was making the point that no, pro-Israeli propaganda is extremely rare. That is why I was mentioning Munich as the only other movie to refer to Israel or Israeli issues off the top of my head, which you could debate certainly.

Don't Mess with the Zohan immediately comes to mind

maxben:
And again, you choose to throw out a meaningless one sentence response as a way of devaluing me as if I am not worth your time or effort. That's not to say that I am, but if you don't want to have a discussion why respond in the first place?

It's called being succinct. What I'm saying does not require large amounts of text. I don't feel the need to express my feelings either.

My takeaway from this movies was that zombies _might_ kill you during a zombie apocalypse. But, spending any length of time around Brad Pitt? That will definitely get you killed.

I didn't think this was a bad movie at all. I never read the book, I assume it's better than the film (as is usually the case). WWZ isn't a favorite or anything, but i thought it was pretty good. Entertaining.

Avaholic03:
I watched this movie (the unrated version on Netflix) last weekend, and I pretty much agree with you on all your points. The only real problem I have with this movie (and I had the same problem with 28 days later, I Am Legend, and other similar movies) is that I have a tough time suspending disbelief that a virus would actually give people super-human strength and speed. It's not that I'm some slow-zombie purist or anything, it just doesn't seem scientifically sound.

Zombies in the first place are pretty bat shit retarded but I have to say that 28 days later (not so much 28 weeks for a few points) was pretty believeable if nothing else. The bleeding aspect was from ebola being used with the virus and the rabid seeming "super strength" was easy to believe because SCIENCE and well, you ever heard about people on PCP? I don't think it's the virus giving them this super strength and super speed so much as the virus taking away their humanity and control.

Zombie films are like gay porn for me, to be honest.

I'm not gay so I don't get anything out of watching gay porn. Hooray for those who do, I suppose. I am just not one of them.

I don't find the zombie apocalypse, or any apocalypse come to think of it, appealing in any way. No, I didn't like Mad Max, either. I don't have any fun thinking about the collapse of society. So I'll leave this to people who do.

Avaholic03:
*snip*

Don't think of it as a virus giving super human abilities then, are you are aware that humans in general are a hell of a lot stronger than we show, but it's due to innate mental blocks that we never really get to use the full extent of our strength. It's for our own good though, as our full strength can do massive damage to our bodies if we were just to use it all the time. I like to think that viruses like that remove the block and allow us to access it because they don't care if we fuck ourselves up, they just want to spread like wildfire.

OT: Been really wary of watching this film, but now my curiosity is piqued Jim, I think I might have to watch it now.

I just watched the Unrated version on Netflix a few minutes ago.

I FUCKING LOVE THIS FILM!

Seriously, I don't know why the heck did I avoided it until now, maybe the initial trailers scared me off of it, due to it's overuse of CGI and oh boy, do they use CGI, but it's done to such degree where it's actually kinda belivable and scary, I don't know, these zombies just creeped me out from the very beginning and watching a freaking river of those things flowing towards you, trying to get you... *shivers*

I absolutely hated 28 Weeks Later (I still love Days though) and this is absolutely a better film than that piece of crap.

Same as Jim I avoided watching it because I had heard it was crap. I too was pleasantly surprised and not for the first time recently found myself thinking, "what do people expect". I think people are starting to expect a little much and considering we keep telling each other not to fall for the hype, you have basically no one to blame but yourselves for disappointment in most cases.

Fayathon:

Avaholic03:
*snip*

Don't think of it as a virus giving super human abilities then, are you are aware that humans in general are a hell of a lot stronger than we show, but it's due to innate mental blocks that we never really get to use the full extent of our strength. It's for our own good though, as our full strength can do massive damage to our bodies if we were just to use it all the time.

Okay, can you source that? Because that sounds like horse shit.

When I was in high school, a mate of mine told me; 'You know, there is some old woman who is, like, a mental or something. And they have to lock her up right. Because she is super strong. Not cause she works out or nothing, but because she doesn't have the mental block that stops us from using our super strength. They wrapped her in iron chains and she ripped them apart'.

I make him sound stupid, but he was a smart guy. Now if I'm wrong, then I guess I've been looking at him like a tool for damn near a decade.

Hunter C. Creed

I actually disagree with Jim here. The movie does infact resemble the source material but not the aspects of the source material people really remember. The 1st act of World War Z the book was more action oriented. With panic spreading around the globe, the Military and governments trying but failing to contain the outbreak or at least keep order, zombies literally breaking through windows of family homes that thought "it won't come here" and individual people saving one another in a moment of crisis when they didn't have to.
Plus it had the journalistic moments where Brad Pitt sits down with people to get their stories. I think people are mad at the film because it wasn't as world building as the book but it was as much as it could be while still being able to be in film format. People would only be happy if it was a TV series with each one to three episodes being some persons story but than whats the point of a adaptation if you just transpose the events and characters exactly and faithfully as you can from the source material to the new media. Just read the damn book if you want that.
Personally I thought they did great work with what they had and they could of easily phoned it end and made tons of money with much less inspiration.

Avaholic03:
I watched this movie (the unrated version on Netflix) last weekend, and I pretty much agree with you on all your points. The only real problem I have with this movie (and I had the same problem with 28 days later, I Am Legend, and other similar movies) is that I have a tough time suspending disbelief that a virus would actually give people super-human strength and speed. It's not that I'm some slow-zombie purist or anything, it just doesn't seem scientifically sound.

See, I always thought that fast infected were rather more plausible - I always figured any virus which degraded the body to the extent that it would stop slow zombies from running or climbing would also stop them from being able to co-ordinate basic movements, or even staying upright. Fast zombies make somewhat more sense because the idea is that their nervous system is entirely intact and functional - the virus has just reprogrammed them to attack people, in the same way that other illnesses can cause (admittedly less severe) behavioural modification, eg rabies.

In 28 Days they're basically like humans which are entirely unconcerned with pain or danger, but they aren't actually stronger than they would have been alive (the humans do manage to kill a few hand-to-hand).
I do agree that they're slightly OP in World War Z - I think they could have made the individual zombies slightly less agile (less of the midair tackling and general bullet resistance) while still maintaining the whole 'Ant Hive/Tsunami of the Undead' thing they had going on.
Still thoroughly enjoyed WWZ though - and it ends near where I live! (spoiler; We don't actually have a topsecret WHO research centre in the Valleys unfortunately).

My brother, knowing how much I loved the book, didn't even tell me the name of the movie until after I watched it. He just called it "some zombie flick". And it actually was a decent zombie movie. I have no idea why they didn't just call the movie something else and film an actual movie based on the actual book, where the story of the infection is told through flashbacks during interviews that the reporter is doing around the world. Then, this movie would be called, I dunno, "Infection" or something like that (Hey, I'm not a writer) and the actual movie would be called "World War Z".

Hunter Creed:

Fayathon:

Avaholic03:
*snip*

Don't think of it as a virus giving super human abilities then, are you are aware that humans in general are a hell of a lot stronger than we show, but it's due to innate mental blocks that we never really get to use the full extent of our strength. It's for our own good though, as our full strength can do massive damage to our bodies if we were just to use it all the time.

Okay, can you source that? Because that sounds like horse shit.

When I was in high school, a mate of mine told me; 'You know, there is some old woman who is, like, a mental or something. And they have to lock her up right. Because she is super strong. Not cause she works out or nothing, but because she doesn't have the mental block that stops us from using our super strength. They wrapped her in iron chains and she ripped them apart'.

I make him sound stupid, but he was a smart guy. Now if I'm wrong, then I guess I've been looking at him like a tool for damn near a decade.

Hunter C. Creed

Don't have one off hand, but I'll dig until I do, give me a little bit. It's just one of those tidbits I find fascinating about us humans but I never seem to keep where I got the info from on hand, you know?

EDIT: http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/arts/circus-arts/adrenaline-strength1.htm

Link cites multiple studies at the end, and it's an interesting read.

Fayathon:

Hunter Creed:

Fayathon:

Don't think of it as a virus giving super human abilities then, are you are aware that humans in general are a hell of a lot stronger than we show, but it's due to innate mental blocks that we never really get to use the full extent of our strength. It's for our own good though, as our full strength can do massive damage to our bodies if we were just to use it all the time.

Okay, can you source that? Because that sounds like horse shit.

When I was in high school, a mate of mine told me; 'You know, there is some old woman who is, like, a mental or something. And they have to lock her up right. Because she is super strong. Not cause she works out or nothing, but because she doesn't have the mental block that stops us from using our super strength. They wrapped her in iron chains and she ripped them apart'.

I make him sound stupid, but he was a smart guy. Now if I'm wrong, then I guess I've been looking at him like a tool for damn near a decade.

Hunter C. Creed

Don't have one off hand, but I'll dig until I do, give me a little bit. It's just one of those tidbits I find fascinating about us humans but I never seem to keep where I got the info from on hand, you know?

EDIT: http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/arts/circus-arts/adrenaline-strength1.htm

Link cites multiple studies at the end, and it's an interesting read.

Thanks. Looks like I've been a giant cock, thinking that guy was a nutter for 10 years. Never told him directly, so I guess there isn't anything to apologize for.

And you're right, an interesting read indeed. Thanks for the link. Have a good one.

Hunter C. Creed

Yes, maybe it IS a GOOD zombie movie COMPARED to the ones we've been getting, but it's still a movie that had a rushed plot and an extremely unsatisfying and rushed ending.

And i'm not saying that because i'm a fan of the book, i actually never read or heard of the book prior to watching this movie.

I don't think that it's fair to say that this crap is good, because i've only been able to have worse in the past 6-10yrs.

And if you're judging the movie based on its entertainment value then, yes, it's not a terrible flick, but it's not good, it's just decent.

Nope, I'm sorry.

I was willing to accept the movie up to the point where the zombies defied physics and climbed anthill-style over a gigantic concrete wall. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far and mine most certainly ran out at that point. As such I turned it off with many feelings of disgust lingering.

Damn this movie.

Sleekit:
btw guys...there is an audio book of World War Z...and its supposed to be really, really good...

check out the cast list...

seriously.

I fucking love the audio book. The new version released in 2013 is supposedly unabridged in contrary to the 2007 version and it's 12 hours long. And, since I didn't know they made a longer version until just now, I feel a bit daft...

I dunno... the logic in the film broke down too often for me.

The Zombie Climbing Scene in Isreal was cool... but are we to assume that in a chaotic refugee camp NOBODY has made enough noise to attract the zombies before? Did the massive horde waiting just outside the walls wait until Brad Pitt got there to flood over?

Same thing on the plane to Cardiff, it takes 12 seconds for the zombie infection to take hold (established in the movie) and nobody on a crowded ass plane during a 6 hour flight walked past that zombie holding closet? Nobody? It waited until they were specifically over the exact country they needed to be in to spring out on an unsuspecting passer by and force the plane to crash?

Other than that if you ignore the connection to the book it was a pretty fun watch.

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