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blackrave:
My take on Cortana is that she actually modeled herself around actresses/models of said time period, to achieve better feedback from mostly male soldiers
Guys, lets be honest, to whom would you respond better?
CABAL


or
Cortana

I know I'd pick Cortana every single time.

The only thing you accomplished right here is make me sad that there will be no more Command and Conquer games. I hope you are happy. :P

Seeing this, I am left with one question:

Why would you ever go with Halo 4 Master Chief over Halo 2?

SupahGamuh:

MegaManOfNumbers:

JCAll:
Wasn't that Adam's job in Metroid Fusion.

You mean General Cockblock? Like he's going to authorize any sort of female or male fanservice, let alone drop his pants for the ladies!

In Fusion he wasn't much of a "cockblock", he was actually a decent character, but I guess I'd say something entirely different if the GBA's cartdridges had enough space for voice acting :/

No kidding. It's kind of sad that I liked Adam a hell of a lot better when he was a glowing purple flashlight that communicated entirely through text and was working to undermine Samus' work through half the game. Mainly because he was SUPPOSED to be seen as a jackass then and Samus actually acted like a Human being, getting pissed off at him when he gets in the way of her stopping the X instead of desperately hoping that daddy will love her.

OT: I chuckled, but this comic made me a little sad.

One, because of the increase in how sexualized Cortana got from game to game to the point where it was just shameless pandering. Coupled with how she went from a fun snarky hacker to a emotionally fragile flower, they just kinda butchered her.

Two, because of how we haven't gotten a new Metroid game since 2007. I don't care if there were two releases between then and now, because one was just a re-release of the Prime Trilogy and the other was just shit.

eberhart:

CaitSeith:

Hdawger:
Guys, according to his Twitter, Grey isn't doing a comic on the ZQ conspiracy because he believes it's more important to focus on the events in Ferguson right now *Cough Gaza Defense Cough*.

It's very egocentric of you to complain about Grey's focus; while the PSN was under hacker's attack, blocking access to tens of thousands of gamers. *sarcasm alert*

When are we going to end up with Gaza Defense of Gaza Defense ? :)

In reality I was half-serious. At this time I can't avoid putting on my conspiracy theorist hat and think that the ZQ thing is a distraction, so gamers don't retaliate when the hackers make a direct attack.

I dont get it? What's the joke?

Does Larry also tell Samus not to wear her protective gear while walking in lava?

Also, isn't it ironic that THE XBox-exclusive Franchise has a sidekick consisting of BluRays? *rimshot*

Indeed, nothing else going on this week. And nothing to do with the Escapist at all.

Thunderous Cacophony:

I don't think even Critical Miss is dumb/brave enough to go stick their head in that shark tank. It seems to be a topic that will be officially ignored while everyone in the real world talks about it endlessly.

Real world? I've only ever seen this 'issue' discussed on the internet, and only on specific sites on the internet. I don't know about you, but when I watch the news they're usually too busy talking about Gaza, ISIS, the Ukraine, and some contrived presidential scandal to be talking about some contrived internet scandal.

MrMan999:

blackrave:
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The only thing you accomplished right here is make me sad that there will be no more Command and Conquer games. I hope you are happy. :P

I don't think I can be happy, since THAT game came out :'(
But stay strong buddy, we both will eventually get through this mess
Just keep living, one day at the time.

Shanahanapp:

Blue Ranger:

Shanahanapp:
*edit whoops.

I think I get what you're saying. I'm not really saying I think the designers were being specifically exclusive. I just think it's more likely they'd design to what appeals to guys mostly due to that being the demographic and then whatever crossover that has into appealing to other demographics is likely not what they were focusing on. I think most male character designs don't try to NOT appeal to females I just think it's likely that the designers put less thought into that aspect of the design.

See, here's the problem you and many others have when arguing about the "male power fantasy." The "male power fantasy" is NOT just about being big and strong. Part of the fantasy is that many guys grow up thinking that the big, muscular men are what women think are attracted. They think that because a lot of women DO find that attractive. That's why many male protagonists are created to look like this. Power can be seen as sexy to people. The fantasy for a lot of guys is about being the perfect specimen. Strong and desirable. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand.

I'm not saying all women find characters designed that way unattractive, I'm just saying I feel like most characters are designed with the male demographic in mind. It's rare to find a character designed specifically to appeal to women, not rare to find one specifically designed to appeal to men.

Probably true, but a lot of characters that people say are designed for men are really not. There is huge overlap between what men want in a male protagonist and what women want in a male protagonist. Using a non video game example, Thor.

Thor as a character appeals to women on a physical level. He is eye candy for the ladies (on top of all the other things his character is.) But if he was a video game character the automatic assumption would be that he was designed as a male power fantasy. He has all the normal male power fantasy elements, after all. Muscular, tall, attractive, the body of a god. All of these things that are meant to appeal to women are the same points used to demonstrate that male video game characters are male power fantasies designed for men.

The automatic assumption is that a male character is designed for the male gamer and that female characters are designed for the male gamer. It is a serious case of confirmation bias, one that poisons the discourse of gender equality in gaming by applying a greatly unequal standard to characters of different genders. No useful discussion can be had because any potential counter examples are immediately dismissed, often without serious consideration.

It is a logic loop. Everyone knows that video game characters designed for male gamers, so those attractive women and buff men must be made for male gamers, sexy women and power fantasies. And how does everyone know games are designed for male gamers? Just look at all the sexy women and male power fantasies! How can they not be designed for men?

It is a double standard most often backed up by a logic loop.

Now, I am not necessarily saying you are wrong. The double standard may be justified in this case. But it is a double standard, and you want to be careful when applying a double standard. Even the best intended double standard can poison a civil debate and make it turn nasty, and this is one that is already charged with emotion and mud slinging on both sides. And it gets frustrating when such an obvious double standard is so often used.

Bolo The Great:
Cortana evolving into basically a naked women was kind of uncomfortable.

I saw it as Cortana evolving from a fairly engaging character into an even more engaging and interesting character. She was always essentially nekkid and blue, and all the 'Cortana through the Halo timeline' comparisons in the world didn't change how I perceived her as a space Tinker Bell character.

Paragon Fury:
I have a serious question;

Why, during these kinds of debates, do people insist on saying/implying that the male primary sex characteristic - our twig and berries, rod and reel, I'm-out-of-euphemisms - is in anyway comparable to female secondary sex characteristics - their boobs, flotation devices, whatever-you-like-to-call-them and their hips/thighs - at all?

Because they're not. At all.

Hmm, it might be that both the male genitalia and female breasts are physical things you can hold and squeeze, whereas the male breasts and female genitalia are both more a negative-space, a 'lack of' rather than a thing itself.

Samus with an AI would be cool, some more dialogue in Metroid Prime games would be appreciated (aside from the cold AIs in corruption). I'm not super keen on the super sexualized holo-bait, as it would seem to liken her to the teenage fans Cortona is pandering to. That said, everyone has the right to be pandered to, we shouldn't object to one without criticizing the other gender's version equally.

Paragon Fury:
our twig and berries, rod and reel, I'm-out-of-euphemisms

Meat and two veg
Sausage and eggs
The Three Musketeers
The dic-tators
Winkie and the Twins
The Nixon Administration

Wait... what was this thread about? I've already forgotten. o.O

There is only one thing I can think of looking at Larry there: Nudist Beeeeeeeeeach!

My favorite digital sidekick was in Journeyman Project, especially the third one.

He was actually voiced male, though his graphical interface was literally your holo-suit's helmet with a pair of giant eyes on in a parody of Clippy from MS office. I did a second play-through where I set him to full-out chatty (since I already knew the puzzles so hints didn't hurt that part) in JP3 just because he turned a serious video game about time travel and alien invasions into a buddy comedy by sheer force of will.

Honestly, Cortana having a visual design at all kind of annoyed me, felt like the game was beating you over the head with the whole 'this is the main character's only real social interest' thing. Having her as a disembodied voice that Master Chief talked to conversationally even while she was basically just giving tactical commands was actually BETTER, it sort of highlighted the underlying loneliness of being a super-soldier incapable of anything but shooting stuff to death.

As for beefcake in games in general... I wouldn't care. Not like it'd be new, most sword and sorcery men wear nonsensical armor and could use a damned shirt, too, already, and many character designs in games are ripped from manga and western comics, which pander pretty hard to both sexes (if more regularly and effectively to men).

blackrave:
My take on Cortana is that she actually modeled herself around actresses/models of said time period, to achieve better feedback from mostly male soldiers
Guys, lets be honest, to whom would you respond better?


or


I know I'd pick Cortana every single time.

KANE LIVES IN DEATH!

Cabal every time. Latest Cortana would be distracting om the battlefield. I mean... that ass. It does things to me. I dunno maybe i just have too much of a thing for Cortana's design, for me she has perfect... everything. Also that missile launch line had me panicking for my base :P

HA, I'm not a console gamer so I actually approached this comic as a comment about the new digital assistant planned for Windows 9. Then I noticed that the "Microsoft" employees had direct neural plugs, and I thought MS could never get that to work...

Samus is a yaoi fangirl and Seph fanfic writer, no doubt about it.

Bolo The Great:
I would just like to take this space to re-iterate my love for man-buns :P If we sexualize equally i don't see a problem. Sexualized media will always exist.

It would be much better if we avoided sexualization and just welcomed sexuality instead. You can't sexualize characters that are already sexual to begin with. See: Mikisugi Aikirou

thaluikhain:

Paragon Fury:
I have a serious question;

Why, during these kinds of debates, do people insist on saying/implying that the male primary sex characteristic - our twig and berries, rod and reel, I'm-out-of-euphemisms - is in anyway comparable to female secondary sex characteristics - their boobs, flotation devices, whatever-you-like-to-call-them and their hips/thighs - at all?

Because they're not. At all.

Eh, what male secondary sex characteristics aren't you allowed to show in public though?

... The ass? It's the only part of our body that is considered a secondary sex characteristic for both men and women, and unlike women, men don't show their asses very often. A girl can wear a g-string swimsuit at the beach without problems, but a man wearing a g-string with his ass free to enjoy the sunlight is probably a gay porn actor. But it's considered attractive for both genders.

As men and women, we should put aside our differences and our resentment towards each other and unite in the name of the only thing we both appreciate: the butt.

Ya know, I'd like to see an action game released in the west/United States where women play the competent adventurer/Player character (I don't consider NPCs competent at all because they need the player.) who has her pick of assorted guys without gender select for the player character.
Basically a gender swap of pretty much every game with a shred of a relationship without character creation.

Women get supported by assorted guys that are basically just barely useful at their jobs, wear next to nothing, and eventually need rescuing by the woman. Maybe killed off in absurd ways to help fuel the woman's desire to see justice done.

Aw, now Larry looks like a fun guy to hang out with.

You'd have to fight the instinct to duck every time he turned around, but I'd pick him.

"There's nothing else going on this week"? Didn't a terrorist organization issue a bomb threat against Sony in a DDoS attack, pulling down PSN's online service and compromising Xbox Live as well?

Speaking as a dude who likes ladies I'd be okay with the odd game or three featuring ripped dudes with huge schlongs.

One of my chief complaints about Skyrim was that while there's a bevy of hot ladies to marry (like that sexy filth encrusted babe you deliver letters for) female characters have to settle for a bunch of jackasses that look like the town drunk (and of course one who actually IS the town drunk).

Of course thanks to the console you can marry whoever you want, whether they're initially scripted to let you or not. Which- that's actually sort of creepy now that I think about it*.

*Except for Lydia who has unique romance dialog and is for whatever reason the only House Karl you can't marry normally.

Rebel_Raven:
Ya know, I'd like to see an action game released in the west/United States where women play the competent adventurer/Player character (I don't consider NPCs competent at all because they need the player.) who has her pick of assorted guys without gender select for the player character.
Basically a gender swap of pretty much every game with a shred of a relationship without character creation.

Women get supported by assorted guys that are basically just barely useful at their jobs, wear next to nothing, and eventually need rescuing by the woman. Maybe killed off in absurd ways to help fuel the woman's desire to see justice done.

Pretty sad if your primary reason/motive to make such a game is political correctness. There's just not enough demand for such a game. As mentioned in the comic, it's extremely niche. Forget big developers, I don't even see small-medium sized studios interested in making something like that. If they did it might end up making them no money.

I'm sure an indie dev somewhere could make such a game as a mini-project to see how much popularity it gains. There are already flash/java-based erotic games aimed at females and homosexual males, but again they will be only getting a tiny (tiny) fraction of the popularity that straight-male games get.

Aaron Sylvester:

Rebel_Raven:
Ya know, I'd like to see an action game released in the west/United States where women play the competent adventurer/Player character (I don't consider NPCs competent at all because they need the player.) who has her pick of assorted guys without gender select for the player character.
Basically a gender swap of pretty much every game with a shred of a relationship without character creation.

Women get supported by assorted guys that are basically just barely useful at their jobs, wear next to nothing, and eventually need rescuing by the woman. Maybe killed off in absurd ways to help fuel the woman's desire to see justice done.

Pretty sad if your primary reason/motive to make such a game is political correctness. There's just not enough demand for such a game. As mentioned in the comic, it's extremely niche. Forget big developers, I don't even see small-medium sized studios interested in making something like that. If they did it might end up making them no money.

I'm sure an indie dev somewhere could make such a game as a mini-project to see how much popularity it gains. There are already flash/java-based erotic games aimed at females and homosexual males, but again they will be only getting a tiny (tiny) fraction of the popularity that straight-male games get.

Of course it's niche. Very few guys want a game like that, because they don't want guys in posiions like that.
Yet the industry, and in part, the people fighting against female protagonists, insists on having women put up with it. That's basically, my point. If guys don't like games like that, why are women expected to like games that treat them that way?
Why is anyone expected to like games where women are treated that way in general? the annoyance isn't limited to women.

Yet here we are, with no signs of things really changing.

Bolo The Great:
I really would like more obvious man-candy in my games. I guess we do have idealized hunks too, actually come to think of it we have a lot of muscular men in games but they tend to be grizzled and look like abused meat. But i suppose those are from the 'male gaze' or whatever. I dunno. But i sure as hell see a lot of bulging, sweaty muscles in some areas. *bites lip*
:P

I would have thourght drake (as much as I loath that dick weasel) would be a "general" kind of attractive to women

but then I'm realising as far as fictional charachters go I don't know what women like or why they like it

Rebel_Raven:
If guys don't like games like that

Hypothetically if the game you described came out tomorrow I highly doubt guys would even care, forget about "not liking" (that implies they actually care). Maybe a few MRA crazies would object, but those minorities (along with extreme feminists) can be safely ignored. This is of course because males have a million other games catering to them. Your gender-reversed game is free to exist and be produced for whoever is going to buy it - it's primary barrier won't be guys not liking it, but gamers (in general) just not being interested enough to warrant the development.

Reversing the situation won't work since you'll also have to reverse how gaming, technology, etc came around going back hundreds of years. Yes, I wouldn't like it if I was the minority audience for a popular product and it didn't depict my gender properly. No, I probably wouldn't try to get it changed because the hands of fate would probably make me not interested in video right now. Too many factors.

Rebel_Raven:
why are women expected to like games that treat them that way?

I'd like to think that women are not expected to like those games. The way the game is developed and marketed, one could conclude that the studios/publishers aren't even expecting women to be INTERESTED in those kinds of games, let alone like it. I mean do you think the devs of GTA and Witcher would expect women to actually enjoy their products? Heck no. They already know that, they know what they are making and who they are catering to. They are inclined to give zero fucks about Anita Sarkeesian and the likes, if anything she's helping their sales (a bit) every time she mentions their games.

But if some women do pick that game up and criticize it's depiction of women, that's between them and the devs/publishers. It's almost the equivalent of those women saying "Y U NO MAKE GAME FOR MY TASTES?" - that's how the dev/publisher will perceive criticism coming from women, especially feminists.

I can understand WHY women don't like it, I'll give you that. I don't expect them to like it, nobody should expect women to like such games. But that's the reality.
I wish women the best of luck to getting games made for them.

Rebel_Raven:
Why is anyone expected to like games where women are treated that way in general? the annoyance isn't limited to women.

The masses haven't really objected to women being treated like that in games, said games are selling very well. From the devs/publishers' perspective they did everything right. Who are you (or me) to convince them they are depicting women badly? They already know that and literally throwing it in consumers' faces, and consumers are gobbling it up.

If a woman decides to buy a game and doesn't like her gender's depiction in it, criticizing and complaining is the extent of what she can do - and then her criticism will be swiftly buried under countless others (i.e. straight male gamers) who found the game perfectly enjoyable and have no gender-related issues with it.

From what I've noticed, that's what happens every time. And the more often it happens, the less likely it is for future criticism coming from females to be taken seriously. Even if they are totally legitimate complaints, you get the picture.

Schadrach:
Oh, you're clearly missing the important part -- Cortana is a sexual fantasy directed at straight men while Larry is a power fantasy directed at straight men. Don't you know how this works?

Ya ain't wrong. But that's not to say women cannot find certain male characteristics highly erotic. Though, I'd say your average woman probably prefers a less steroid-use looking physique. Something that looks more natural than your typical 'hard body' too. (Six pack abs are silly.)

Case in point: http://thats-normal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/1743714_640694452656434_895588589_n.jpg

This is literally the first show to make me squee like some K-Drama fan. And part of it is that. But at the end of the day, that dude plays a real character, not eye candy. That's the only issue I have with sexualization of women in video games; it's eye candy with no substance. Ruins it for me. :(

Aaron Sylvester:

Rebel_Raven:
If guys don't like games like that

Hypothetically if the game you described came out tomorrow I highly doubt guys would even care, forget about "not liking" (that implies they actually care). Maybe a few MRA crazies would object, but those minorities (along with extreme feminists) can be safely ignored. This is of course because males have a million other games catering to them. Your gender-reversed game is free to exist and be produced for whoever is going to buy it - it's primary barrier won't be guys not liking it, but gamers (in general) just not being interested enough to warrant the development.

Reversing the situation won't work since you'll also have to reverse how gaming, technology, etc came around going back hundreds of years. Yes, I wouldn't like it if I was the minority audience for a popular product and it didn't depict my gender properly. No, I probably wouldn't try to get it changed because the hands of fate would probably make me not interested in video right now. Too many factors.

Rebel_Raven:
why are women expected to like games that treat them that way?

I'd like to think that women are not expected to like those games. The way the game is developed and marketed, one could conclude that the studios/publishers aren't even expecting women to be INTERESTED in those kinds of games, let alone like it. I mean do you think the devs of GTA and Witcher would expect women to actually enjoy their products? Heck no. They already know that, they know what they are making and who they are catering to. They are inclined to give zero fucks about Anita Sarkeesian and the likes, if anything she's helping their sales (a bit) every time she mentions their games.

But if some women do pick that game up and criticize it's depiction of women, that's between them and the devs/publishers. It's almost the equivalent of those women saying "Y U NO MAKE GAME FOR MY TASTES?" - that's how the dev/publisher will perceive criticism coming from women, especially feminists.

I can understand WHY women don't like it, I'll give you that. I don't expect them to like it, nobody should expect women to like such games. But that's the reality.
I wish women the best of luck to getting games made for them.

Rebel_Raven:
Why is anyone expected to like games where women are treated that way in general? the annoyance isn't limited to women.

The masses haven't really objected to women being treated like that in games, said games are selling very well. From the devs/publishers' perspective they did everything right. Who are you (or me) to convince them they are depicting women badly? They already know that and literally throwing it in consumers' faces, and consumers are gobbling it up.

If a woman decides to buy a game and doesn't like her gender's depiction in it, criticizing and complaining is the extent of what she can do - and then her criticism will be swiftly buried under countless others (i.e. straight male gamers) who found the game perfectly enjoyable and have no gender-related issues with it.

From what I've noticed, that's what happens every time. And the more often it happens, the less likely it is for future criticism coming from females to be taken seriously. Even if they are totally legitimate complaints, you get the picture.

That doesn't change things, really. If guys ignore it, then they wouldn't like it, right? They might not complain bitterly about it, what with it being one game like that, and it being pretty much the singular example, but they wouldn't like it.
The concept is not something most guys, and the industry want. Which, again, is my point. They don't want it, but they keep putting women through the same concept.

Women are expected to like it. For a very long time, it's been "play this way, or don't play at all." It still is for a large part, though I admit it's not as bad as it was these days since some companies are being more open, and some open companies might be getting more spotlight. It's still kinda sucky, though.
Then again it got pretty okay in the 90's, and dried up, so you'll have to pardon me if I'm not confident on how long it'll last.

I'm not really expecting developers to care what women want, and/or go to of their way, but rather have the freedoms to make a game that a woman just might like. They should do it because they want to.
Of course, I'm going to get irritated when women are actively cut/omitted like Ubisoft did in their latest games, which kinda sours what I thought about them when they redid Liberation, and made Child of Light.

We're free to complain. We should complain, IMO. It doesn't matter if anything changes, it's good to at least vent, and know we aren't alone in what we want.

While it's true that people bury the complaints with "everything's fine" (which points back to my point of women, and minorities for that matter, being expected to like it, or else they're not gaming, or gaming as happily as they could be), that apparently won't make this issue go away. It keeps reappearing time, and time again, and, IMO, until the issue becomes less common, it won't go away.

Paragon Fury:
I have a serious question;

Why, during these kinds of debates, do people insist on saying/implying that the male primary sex characteristic - our twig and berries, rod and reel, I'm-out-of-euphemisms - is in anyway comparable to female secondary sex characteristics - their boobs, flotation devices, whatever-you-like-to-call-them and their hips/thighs - at all?

Because they're not. At all.

You're right, we need to show more appreciation for other parts of the male anatomy. Namely broad shoulders, bulging biceps, sculpted pecs, washboard abs, and those delicate tight glutes. Preferably all while in fabulous Jojo-esque poses.

Imagine how much better Gears of War would be if they upped blatant beefcake to Bayonetta levels, or the Metal Gear series if Stupid Sexy Snake was an actual thing.

Vault101:

I would have thourght drake (as much as I loath that dick weasel) would be a "general" kind of attractive to women

but then I'm realising as far as fictional charachters go I don't know what women like or why they like it

I think he's somewhere on the fence. I can see arguments for and against him being attractive, but he definitely ain't "man candy."

During one of PSN's recent sales, I looked up a game I'd never heard of, and a lot of the complaints were that the characters were "aimed at women." I ended up passing on the game because what few comments I could find about it described it as boring, but I really want to see more games with women in mind to see if the "it doesn't matter" crowd was really honest. I can't fault someone for not buying a boring game. What I want is a big, AAA shooter with lots of men marketed to appeal to women, and preferably with an unskippable gay kiss/sex scene.

Honestly, man-on-man action isn't really my thing, but I'd like to see how people really reacted to an otherwise "normal" AAA game that just happened to have men aimed at pandering to straight women/gay men, up to the point of homoerotica. Because that would be the real test, I think. If it really doesn't matter and women shouldn't complain, men should be totes into the game even if it's pandering or sexist or whatever else.

But I kind of diverged from your post. This is just what it made me think of.

What bothered me about the last iteration of Cortana was that they didn't even try to allude to her visually being anything more than a naked lady. What made her "sexy" was that she could be interpreted as either being naked or wearing full body clothing because her design had a vagueness to it in that respect in the older games; her boobs weren't overly defined in shape and so on. Sexiness is about subtlety and implication and "teasing" the viewer regardless of the gender being used. Once you're full on modeling nipples and putting every crease of a characters butt in to your normal mapping you've gone too far and made porn.

Typical effective fanservice for straight female viewers isn't a giant penis flopping around in tight shorts, its a general definition of the male form that isn't taken too far; enough to be "muscular" but not "monstrous" (see; the characters from Free) alongside a pretty face, nice hair and so on - the same as a female character appealing to men.

Which is where a lot of artists go wrong; Cory included in this instance. He made Larry (terrible name, not sexy at all) too muscular and his penis would be terrifying to any lady due to size alone, as a male version parody of Cortana it is "incorrect". Women have tastes and preferences as much as men but most have a general set of interests that don't involve extremes and hardcore fetishes, I'd say the percentage of those that do is way way lower than the average male also.

Boobs are great but once you go over a certain size I'm honestly more disgusted than anything myself. Most women don't want their fantasy men to be enormous penis monsters either, which again is what I constantly see when the "joke" of "lets objectify men too guys!" comes up - showing a misunderstanding in the concept even when their is some awareness of it.

Fanservice should be available to all people but more artists need to understand what is considered sexy to both women and men. Equality demands equal understanding of that which is considered appealing.

Zachary Amaranth:

Honestly, man-on-man action isn't really my thing, but I'd like to see how people really reacted to an otherwise "normal" AAA game that just happened to have men aimed at pandering to straight women/gay men, up to the point of homoerotica. Because that would be the real test, I think. If it really doesn't matter and women shouldn't complain, men should be totes into the game even if it's pandering or sexist or whatever else.

I also think what women find sexy and what gay men find sexy can be very different...like like what a lesbian might like is different to what a man might like

It actually makes me wonder because hetero female sexuality is something I don't think gets explored a lot int he mainstream.....

but if I were to think of a charachter designed to appeal to females my guess would be Thane From ME2, he's cool mysterious, "emotional" philisphical...his design is very appealing and I admit when I first plaed ME2 I was drawn to the charachter...

LazyAza:

Typical effective fanservice for straight female viewers isn't a giant penis flopping around in tight shorts, its a general definition of the male form that isn't taken too far; enough to be "muscular" but not "monstrous" (see; the characters from Free) alongside a pretty face, nice hair and so on - the same as a female character appealing to men.

Which is where a lot of artists go wrong; Cory included in this instance. He made Larry (terrible name, not sexy at all) too muscular and his penis would be terrifying to any lady due to size alone, as a male version parody of Cortana it is "incorrect". Women have tastes and preferences as much as men but most have a general set of interests that don't involve extremes and hardcore fetishes, I'd say the percentage of those that do is way way lower than the average male also.
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yeah as I just said I think theres a mistake in thinking they are somehow interchangeble...they are not

I can't link pics but if you look up Bloody mary from Wolf among us and compare that to any scantly clad charachter Mary is a BAZILLION times more attractive, and I'm only speaking from images...

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