The Simpsons Meeting Family Guy Isn't the Worst Crossover Ever

The Simpsons Meeting Family Guy Isn't the Worst Crossover Ever

"The Simpsons Guy" wasn't the worst crossover ever, which is about as much as you can expect from a crossover episode.

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I'm going to post what I already posted.

In the words of Krusty's father. "Eh."

Sure, there's novelty in the existence itself, but at the end, I just felt bored.

You said the carwash could've been cut shorter? I thought the whole comic strip storyline could've been cut out entirely. There was no point to it (other than maybe telling off the feminists who got upset about Stewie's rape joke) and it took up precious time. They could've just said the Griffins were on vacation and still have the same results.

The other problem is something that's been bothering me for a long time. Not that it's offensive, but that the jokes were spoiled by the marketing campaign. Nearly, all the best gags (the car wash, the 'chicken' fight, Bart meeting Stewie) were all given away in the promos. So when the scenes do come, you expect it already. Fox spent so much time selling the event, they made said event lose its punch.

I don't know; I think it's alright, but just didn't go anywhere with it. Just become something's self-aware or meta of itself doesn't mean it's all that funny.

I found the crossover to be monumentally disappointing. Like the most recent episodes of the Simpsons and FamilyGuy, the characters didn't even really feel like themselves. Everything they said and did in this was especially forced and even uncomfortable feeling at times; I felt more like I was watching a robot chicken parody of each family. Scene after scene I saw opportunities for them to make clever observations or pull in some interesting plot points about their different universes, but more and more were the opportunities missed. A lot of it also came off as mean spirited, which is really kind of sad considering how fun this could have been.
It just had bad writing from start to finish.

Comic book guy was also right, that was the worse chicken-fight ever.

I thought it was alright. The cameo scene with Bob Belcher was the best part.

Now, onward to the Simpsons/Futurama crossover!

MovieBob:
The Simpsons Meeting Family Guy Isn't the Worst Crossover Ever

"The Simpsons Guy" wasn't the worst crossover ever, which is about as much as you can expect from a crossover episode.

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Another missed opportunity IMHO was seeing Lisa and Brian engage in a Smug-off. I would have much rather seen them paired off for a B plot than wasting him on Santas Little Helper.

Meg should have had a whirlwind weekend fling with Ralph Wiggum instead.

In the end it was super tame, huh?
Guess this is one event I won't have to devote my time too.

Shame, all things considering...

I loved The Simpsons growing up in the 1990s and enjoyed Family Guy a bit during college in the 00s (I remember having to watch it on bootleg VHS tapes while it was cancelled), but can't be alone in thinking that, at this point, both shows (as well as other animated ones like South Park, Futurama, etc...) could really stand to hang it up, lest we go deeper into the already-shitty culturally-cannibalistic habit of having entire generations of young people growing up completely bombarded by their parents' and grandparents' cultural icons and lacking much of anything that can be called their own.

Burnouts3s3:
I'm going to post what I already posted.

In the words of Krusty's father. "Eh."

Sure, there's novelty in the existence itself, but at the end, I just felt bored.

You said the carwash could've been cut shorter? I thought the whole comic strip storyline could've been cut out entirely. There was no point to it (other than maybe telling off the feminists who got upset about Stewie's rape joke) and it took up precious time. They could've just said the Griffins were on vacation and still have the same results.

The other problem is something that's been bothering me for a long time. Not that it's offensive, but that the jokes were spoiled by the marketing campaign. Nearly, all the best gags (the car wash, the 'chicken' fight, Bart meeting Stewie) were all given away in the promos. So when the scenes do come, you expect it already. Fox spent so much time selling the event, they made said event lose its punch.

I don't know; I think it's alright, but just didn't go anywhere with it. Just become something's self-aware or meta of itself doesn't mean it's all that funny.

I hope this doesn't come off as creepy or invading privacy or whatever, but are you Andrew Siribohdi? His Facebook post and your forum post are almost identical and you did say you already posted somewhere.

Caostotale:
I loved The Simpsons growing up in the 1990s and enjoyed Family Guy a bit during college in the 00s (I remember having to watch it on bootleg VHS tapes while it was cancelled), but can't be alone in thinking that, at this point, both shows (as well as other animated ones like South Park, Futurama, etc...) could really stand to hang it up, lest we go deeper into the already-shitty culturally-cannibalistic habit of having entire generations of young people growing up completely bombarded by their parents' and grandparents' cultural icons and lacking much of anything that can be called their own.

Bob's Burgers and Archer are pretty new and relatively successful. I can see Bob's Burgers having a longer shelf and becoming more of an icon than Archer, though. Simpsons could be hanging up the towel sooner than later, but I doubt Family Guy or South Park will end it anytime soon. It seems like all the young people will get shows that are only blips on the radar (like King of the Hill was for me) when the big three are still going strong.

Caostotale:
I loved The Simpsons growing up in the 1990s and enjoyed Family Guy a bit during college in the 00s (I remember having to watch it on bootleg VHS tapes while it was cancelled), but can't be alone in thinking that, at this point, both shows (as well as other animated ones like South Park, Futurama, etc...) could really stand to hang it up, lest we go deeper into the already-shitty culturally-cannibalistic habit of having entire generations of young people growing up completely bombarded by their parents' and grandparents' cultural icons and lacking much of anything that can be called their own.

Bob's Burgers and Archer are pretty new and relatively successful. I can see Bob's Burgers having a longer shelf and becoming more of an icon than Archer, though. Simpsons could be hanging up the towel sooner than later, but I doubt Family Guy or South Park will end it anytime soon. It seems like all the young people will get shows that are only blips on the radar (like King of the Hill was for me) when the big three are still going strong.

EDIT: Double-post. Please delete. Captcha wants me to do 2 seperate captchas, even though it's already posted the first one without my knowledge.

Caostotale:
I loved The Simpsons growing up in the 1990s and enjoyed Family Guy a bit during college in the 00s (I remember having to watch it on bootleg VHS tapes while it was cancelled), but can't be alone in thinking that, at this point, both shows (as well as other animated ones like South Park, Futurama, etc...) could really stand to hang it up, lest we go deeper into the already-shitty culturally-cannibalistic habit of having entire generations of young people growing up completely bombarded by their parents' and grandparents' cultural icons and lacking much of anything that can be called their own.

Well, as much as people tend to deny this, it's a big part of why Generation X and Y are the "lost generations". Basically a failure to address the problems inherent in the Baby Boom after World War II combined with innovations in technology leading towards longer life spans, largely meant that society was going to endure a lot of damage. Basically the idea is that one generation of people gets old and the next generation of people moves up to take their place in society. That didn't happen on a large scale due to Baby Boomers remaining active for so long and able to do their jobs even as their children reached adulthood. This is a big part of why all the "good" jobs are taken and why even college degrees are increasingly worthless, basically you can't compete with some guy with 10-20 years of experience who is still going strong. What's more Boomers have a tendency to want to hire other Boomers, leading to a literal "old boys network" and a sort of glass ceiling when it comes to anything above lower-middle management in a lot of places. Not to mention the Boomers have shown a willingness to lay people off and take losses rather than adapt and bring in those from the younger generations. A lot has been written about this, but it's a big part of why we have an economic recession, in part fueled by all the 30-40 somethings that can't find *decent* jobs, and the huge numbers of adult "man children" who live at home because they literally have no choice. As Gen X started to finally get it's belated foot in the door to some extent, Gen Y arrived, the other "Lost Generation" and are now hitting the same kinds of problems. Although Gen Y is predicted to eventually have a greater impact due to still being fairly young when the Boomers finally die out.

On a pop culture level the thing to understand is that the Boomers have had all the money, so of course businesses have been directed at them. Gen X is a latecomer but your starting to finally see some middle-aged Gen Xers with money becoming a societal force, and that's why you have the 80s and 90s nostalgia boom. Right now the parents and grandparents are the ones that are profitable to deal with, the stuff directed at Gen Y isn't that profitable yet because to be blunt Gen Y is pathetic in pretty much every way that matters on this level. Of course with time that will change, and odds are Gen Y will not get slammed as hard as Gen X did.

If you ever wondered why stuff from the 1990s was so relatively morbid, and "extreme", with lots of anti-heroes, and the overall message oftentimes coming down to nothing mattering no matter what you do or give up, that's because it was the voice of a skipped generation and it mirrored what was known to be happening in society. The irony is that when you look at say the old 1990s comics and stuff and the scorn with which many people view them, that's pretty much how the characters themselves felt they would be viewed, anti-heroes doing things to hold down the fort, their only victory being that nothing changes, and the hope is that someday, someone else will make things better. In comparison stuff largely aimed at "Generation Y" tends to be a bit more upbeat as is the generation because there is at least a light at the end of the tunnel.

I could go into politics and other aspects of everything, and how a lot of other things fit together, but it's increasingly off topic. The bottom line is that the tail end of Gen Y will probably start to see more references and stuff flat out directed at them (without it being a "hipster production") without being quite as old overall, probably sometime around 2020. It's possible Gen Y will be skipped entirely as well, but less likely by forecasts.

The biggest questions here of course are going to be whether the new generations are able to fix the damage done by the Baby Boomers, adjust society to prevent further lost generations (very, very, difficult with modern lifespans), and similar things. One of the big concerns right now is that the new generations will largely be conditioned into a new generation of Boomers... while not the best way of stating it, this is what a lot of politics and media battles do come down to. The Boomers want to pass on their ideals despite the damage, figuring it will work out in the end, a lot of those victimized by that generation albeit not directly see a society in need of repair.

You could really tell it was a Family Guy/Simpsons crossover and not a Simpsons/Family Guy crossover. It was really jarring seeing Homer in a Chicken fight. While it was nice they kept the Stewie's prank call, the whole thing had much more gory and vulgar tone than I'm used to seeing from the Simpsons. The best part about the episode was having Rodger the Alien somehow not be the most obscene/offensive character.

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The Simpsons Meeting Family Guy Isn't the Worst Crossover Ever

"The Simpsons Guy" wasn't the worst crossover ever, which is about as much as you can expect from a crossover episode.

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Another missed opportunity IMHO was seeing Lisa and Brian engage in a Smug-off. I would have much rather seen them paired off for a B plot than wasting him on Santas Little Helper.

Meg should have had a whirlwind weekend fling with Ralph Wiggum instead.

I agree on the Brian and Lisa smug-off but that only would have happened back when Seth Macfarlane wasn't trying to make Brian the least popular character on Family Guy.

MovieBob:
You almost want to sigh: "C'mon, Family Guy! Enough fans already think that you simply being *in* Springfield is an obscenity all by itself -- you might as well break a few more windows and scrawl a few more dirty words on the walls before you're done."

As a dedicated Family Guy hater, I agree with this. I wanted the episode to be as big of an outrage as it could be, so maybe people would finally put their feet down and demand its cancellation, and possibly the long-overdue cancellation of The Simpsons as well before any more damage could be done to it.

Caostotale:
...at this point, both shows (as well as other animated ones like South Park, Futurama, etc...) could really stand to hang it up, lest we go deeper into the already-shitty culturally-cannibalistic habit of having entire generations of young people growing up completely bombarded by their parents' and grandparents' cultural icons and lacking much of anything that can be called their own.

We have the Internet, and we're largely the sorts who consider everything else a dead medium anyway.

It's not what I expected. It's too short to be anything spectacular,and if they wanted to do this, why not make a 60 minute tv movie? Family guy has done those before, and all they needed was the Simpsons voice cast anyway.
There's too much they wanted to do with this, and when it all comes together it did nothing. All the sub-plots feel rushed and could have been more fledged out if they cut the carwash and chicken fight in half.

The only thing I'd like to add is that the end of the chicken fight, and some of the Stewie scenes just almost made me shout out "Oh, god, stop!". Because the Family guy signature shock-value just doesn't mix with the Simpsons' family friendly nature.

But in the end I'm glad I saw it, I was amused, and at least it did get a reaction out of me, which is more than either show has done in a long while...

(It also reminded me that I probably should go watch Bob's burgers or American Dad instead.)

It was pretty terrible. In fact a lot of the "meta" humour just read as a laundry list of why Family Guy is a really uninspired crapfest. And then they made fun of Bob's Burgers? I'm not even a big fan of that show but at the very least from what I've seen Bob's Burgers has some really inventive humour, great characters, is written and voiced by some of the funniest comics working today and doesn't just pad out unfunny jokes so they can hit their running time.

I just marathoned Bojack Horseman over the last two days. I could have just rewatched an episode of that less than 24 hours later and it still would have felt fresher and less repetitive than watching this.

I thought the car wash scene was hilarious.

I used to watch Family Guy, but stopped a while ago when I started getting bored of it. I still watch the Simpsons when it's on and it can still be good. I decided to give this a try and it was funny in places. The Griffins in Springfield does have enough novelty value to it to work, the more "adult" humour with the Simpsons was a bit jarring, but overall I just thought it was okay. It didn't make me nostalgic for Family Guy and it made me feel like I made the right decision giving it up.

It had a nice few moments but they gave away most of it in the preview trailers.

Surprising to hear that it was tame, considering that in one of the newer episodes of family guy in a banner gag, quagmire rapes marge offscreen, she gets into it, he screws her in her house afterwards and shoots the entire family when homer walks in on them. Here's the ironic thing about that: Not one word was ever spoken about that by either feminists, news networks or online journalists. At least to my knowledge anyway

It seems like Bob is the only person on Earth who will admit to liking Family Guy over South Park, and to claiming that the first few seasons after cancellation were the best ones. Those were the ones that gave us such reviled classics as "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven". Don't get me wrong, I like me some Family Guy as well, but when it comes to wit, progressiveness or even pop culture fanboyism, then South Park wins hands down.

About the episode, I enjoyed it well enough. I already talked about it in another thread, but I'm glad Bob acknowledged how unflinchingly brutal that fight got towards the end. It actually made me uncomfortable seeing Homer get so bloodied up and coming so close to death, though that's possibly because I grew up with him. It made me think of that episode of Red Dwarf where Lister sees Winnie the Pooh getting shot: "that is something no one should ever have to see!"

I reckon the best bits were in the courtroom scene. The one-off comparisons between Carl and Cleveland, Lenny and Quagmire and the two mayors were good enough, but that third party cameo? Man, that was gold. The Bob's Burgers/Cleveland Show riff could have been as funny, if they hadn't spoiled it in the trailers.

I quite enjoyed "The Simpsons Guy", with a few reservations. I see it as showing an inner conflict of lovingly saluting The Simpsons for all its done, and giving a brutal takedown of it. I was blown away by Meg's natural saxophone playing, since she's been through some real shit, which Lisa has not. If anything, she sees Meg as what she could turn into. I agree that Stewie not interacting with Maggie and Brian not going to Moe's for a drink were some real missed opportunities, like Stewie and Maggie comparing firearm skills or Brian being a better Mixologist than Moe. I do think the reason Marge and Lois hanging out was left offscreen was because Marge doesn't have that much character anyway. Funnily enough, didn't MAD Magazine have something like an episode of Wife Swap featuring the Simpsons and Griffins?

shadowstriker86:
Surprising to hear that it was tame, considering that in one of the newer episodes of family guy in a banner gag, quagmire rapes marge offscreen, she gets into it, he screws her in her house afterwards and shoots the entire family when homer walks in on them. Here's the ironic thing about that: Not one word was ever spoken about that by either feminists, news networks or online journalists. At least to my knowledge anyway

Oh, Matt Groening heard about it, and he was PISSED OFF about it! If any of the groups you named raised a stink about it, it probably wasn't as loud as anything else going on at the time. I'd look for those opinions myself, but I believe that's the point where I am spending WAY too much time on the Web.

Spot1990:
It was pretty terrible. In fact a lot of the "meta" humour just read as a laundry list of why Family Guy is a really uninspired crapfest. And then they made fun of Bob's Burgers? I'm not even a big fan of that show but at the very least from what I've seen Bob's Burgers has some really inventive humour, great characters, is written and voiced by some of the funniest comics working today and doesn't just pad out unfunny jokes so they can hit their running time.
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as someone said in the other thread (and I haven't watch it) I think the idea was that family guy "carries" bobs burgers because its not a big rater

but yeah to put it politely Bobs burgers is a "different" kind of show...one that actually tries to engage via characters and situations rather than "shock" humour

*Spoiler* Was kinda hoping the meltdown of the power plant would just level the city and be done with it.

Grew up with the The Simpsons and while Matt Groening was still pouring his genius into each episode, it really was an amazing and witty show. But it has been in an artistically stale and vegetative state for years now.. the crossover provided a chance to pull the plug with a few laughs to go.

Instead we get this fanservice BS where they cater to the sentiments of the aging simpsons zealot fanbase, once again digging up Simpsons jokes that were barely fresh 20 years ago. UGH.

Please let Grandpa die with dignity?

Cartoon Wars was overrated? I always hated it. When I re-watched various episodes I outright skipped that one.

Bob, I think you're being far too kind to Seth McFarlane and Family Guy in general.

Watching the crossover only made me appreciate The Simpsons way more than Family Guy. You can say what you will about The Simpsons, but at least it isn't a mean-spirited piece of shit that runs every joke into the ground (The car was scene, the chicken fight, Chris' voice impersonations, etc.). There were some moments that made me laugh but its buried under the god-awfulness of what sucked.

If I had to give one comparision piece to show that The Simpsons are way better than Family Guy, its this. The Simpsons gave us Lisa, a well-develop character that, despite her flaws, became an inspiration for women IMO. Family Guy gave us Meg, an emotionally/physically/spiritually-scarred train wreck/punching bag for every sexist, douche-bag cocksucker on that show and gives guys a reason to act as such.

Yeah, fuck you, Seth. There's a reason why I consider Cosmos your only good piece of work.

BTW, why was Doctor Nick in that crossover? Didn't he die in The Simpsons Movie?

Ugh! Please, Jebus. Let the Simpsons/Futurama crossover be way better than what we watched on Sunday.

It was alright. Much better than that garbage Simpsons premiere at least.
The dogfight cutaway gag made me laugh out loud, the chicken fight with Homer was entertaining and some of the gags gave me a chuckle. Pretty much what I expected.
By contrast, The Simpsons premiere was just a shit version of Like Father Like Clown with no jokes at all.

DirgeNovak:
It was alright. Much better than that garbage Simpsons premiere at least.
The dogfight cutaway gag made me laugh out loud, the chicken fight with Homer was entertaining and some of the gags gave me a chuckle. Pretty much what I expected.
By contrast, The Simpsons premiere was just a shit version of Like Father Like Clown with no jokes at all.

IDK, I liked the bit with Jesus granting Rodney Dangerfield's request to turn his water into a Bloody Mary.

Man am I the only one who gets really annoyed at all the passive shots aimed at south park? While there are exceptions for people who don't like cartoons etc, sure, but in general my rule of thumb is if you don't like south park and are an 20's 30's something American that says more about you than it does About South Park...

That being said it does kind of look funny which is about as much as we could hope.

I enjoyed it. Laughed a lot. Love 4th wall jokes. Just binge watched from season 8 and this is probably the best episode in all of them. People take shit too serious and forget to be watching something to laugh and not to take it apart and think what could be done better. If you want to deconstruct something then maybe watch something that isn't just stupid jokes with over the top scenes that they take too far every time.

I have the sneaking suspicion I've seen all this somewhere before... Oh yeah, that's right. All In The Family, Maude, and The Jeffersons. If Matt Groening and Seth MacFarlane owe anyone for their genre, it's Norman Lear. All Groening and MacFarlane did was animate it. And Wait 'Til Your Father Gets Home (Hanna-Barbera) beat them to that by twenty to thirty years.

BTW, in the Capcha text, Klatu should be Klaatu. If you're going to trivialize a vital trope, you might as well spell it correctly. Have some respect for history.

shadowstriker86:
Surprising to hear that it was tame, considering that in one of the newer episodes of family guy in a banner gag, quagmire rapes marge offscreen, she gets into it, he screws her in her house afterwards and shoots the entire family when homer walks in on them. Here's the ironic thing about that: Not one word was ever spoken about that by either feminists, news networks or online journalists. At least to my knowledge anyway

That gag was forcefully cut/blacked out by Fox in it's initial airing according to the Family Guy dvd commentary.

 

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