The Downward Spiral of Fight Club

The Downward Spiral of Fight Club

Trent Reznor and David Fincher have collaborated on a lot of films, but oddly Fight Club wasn't one of them.

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oh hey! fantasy scoreing! I'm not the only person to ever do this!

NIN actually lends himself really to this...I basically (in my head) matched "Year Zero" with Mass Effect 3 (go listen to vessel and tell me that isn't somone sucumbing to indoctrination/husification)

also a few songs from Linkin Parks Thousands suns (catalyst...huh?..huh?)

oh oh oh oh! and "the great below" (from his album the fragile) IS BIOSHCOK INFINITE BURIAL AT SEA

...this is probably why I like NIN so much

EDIT: AND "THE DAY THE WORLD WENT AWAY" IS A ZOMBIE SOOOOOOOONNNGGG!!!

Vault101:
oh hey! fantasy scoreing! I'm not the only person to ever do this!

NIN actually lends himself really to this...I basically (in my head) matched "Year Zero" with Mass Effect 3 (go listen to vessel and tell me that isn't somone sucumbing to indoctrination/husification)

also a few songs from Linkin Parks Thousands suns (catalyst...huh?..huh?)

oh oh oh oh! and "the great below" (from his album the fragile) IS BIOSHCOK INFINITE BURIAL AT SEA

...this is probably why I like NIN so much

EDIT: AND "THE DAY THE WORLD WENT AWAY" IS A ZOMBIE SOOOOOOOONNNGGG!!!

I've done it as well, hell the first forum topic I made involved albums that could work as film scores. Funnily enough, I thought that NIN The Downward Spiral worked for Tetsuo: The Iron Man and I thought We're In This Together works for Kill La Kill.

OT Interesting topic I must say, I really want to watch Fight Club again now.

Haven´t thought about the connection between NIN and Fight club yet, gotta do some listening/watching later, the idea is very interesting and they certainly overlap in tone and themes.

I just think its pretty damn sad that Trent seems to have lost his edge.
The last 2 cds were pretty meh.
And trent used to be someone who walked the talk but then we went on and said thats the end for him, i still have my "Wave Goodbye" shirt from that tour, and whoopsy 2 years later he´s back like nothing happened, only not so good :/
I was really looking forward to another downward spiral or fragile but i guess that aint happening.

Hmm that was a pretty good read!

Nice job Dude.

Great article involving a great movie and a great album. Good stuff.

Finally! Someone who can write a really interesting article that's a pleasure to read and very insightful without shoving a ton of their politics down the reader's throat. See Bob, it can be done.

Thanks for all the warm feedback! I have been doing film\album mashups for awhile (like Dark Side of Oz). It`s a fun hobby. The Animatrix is one of my favorite video sources for that, but Fantasia works too, and if you start NIN`s Year Zero at the right time during Metropolis there are quite a few "aha!" moments.

Hoooooooly shit this was a great read. I'm a big NIN fan, but I never made the connection of TDS to Fight Club. I knew that Only was almost certainly a reference, but damn that went deeper than I expected.

LysanderNemoinis:
Finally! Someone who can write a really interesting article that's a pleasure to read and very insightful without shoving a ton of their politics down the reader's throat. See Bob, it can be done.

Perhaps because this article had zero to do with anything political, so there was no political opinions to interject?

LarsInCharge:

LysanderNemoinis:
Finally! Someone who can write a really interesting article that's a pleasure to read and very insightful without shoving a ton of their politics down the reader's throat. See Bob, it can be done.

Perhaps because this article had zero to do with anything political, so there was no political opinions to interject?

That doesn't stop people like Bob or any politically correct person from finding a way to put politics into everything. Like how in mentioning there's a third Taken movie, he had to make sure to get in a little PC jab.

This album is a goddamn work of art.

I was always under the impression that it was about the mind going through a heroin trip, Trent was an addict at the time

Although a long-time Reznor fan, I still consider The Dust Brothers' soundtrack to be the quintessential (and an inseparable) accompaniment to the film.

s_h_a_d_o:
Although a long-time Reznor fan, I still consider The Dust Brothers' soundtrack to be the quintessential (and an inseparable) accompaniment to the film.

I completely agree with you about that. Their music is a perfect backdrop for the film. In researching this article, I came across a bit of internet misunderstanding. Apparently numerous people believe the Fight Club intro was a NIN song, but it was pure Dust Brothers!

NIN just seems to be able to fit into anything. Trents a fucking leg-end !

As a nearly lifelong NIN fan I have to say this is a well done article, I want to see more of this please. (background: as a nine-year-old I bought one of my first cassette tapes on the basis of "oh that cover looks cool!" It turned out to be NIN's Pretty Hate Machine, thus solidifying my love for all things Nails for life. Oh I was a messed up kid.)

Downward Spiral: Easily one of Trent's best, if not the best, album. I've spent years self-remixing and DJ-style spinning vinyls just this record alone. Beautiful from start to finish, and so very poignant. I felt that Fight Club fits this album quite spectacularly and being a fan of the author, I knew well this guy totally listened to that album. Hell, maybe thats why the twisted nature didn't surprise me all that much, and the movie (give credit to the Dust Brothers for an awesome soundtrack) was just perfect along that tone. I'd love to see if there's a way to re-score the movie with Downward Spiral and/or Further Down the Spiral's remixes.

EDIT: Also got to give a shout out to Trent Reznor as the artist who gets his fans. All his shows are about a fan experience, I've seen 'em three times. Once on the Fragility 2.0 tour, once on the With Teeth tour and lastly at Lights in the Sky. All three were not a concert but a fucking experience to behold. And Trent really connects with his fans, feeds off them and puts on one hell of a show... so unique. Best. Concerts. Ever. And another nod to Trent for releasing The Slip for absolutely free after he split with Interscope, kind of as a fuck you and kind of as a thank you to the fans.

EDIT the 2nd: Honestly I can't believe I didn't give credit to David Fincher for Fight Club being awesome. Dude has been one of my go to directors since Se7en. I've only really disliked one movie by him, and that was Panic Room, not because it was bad but it just didn't match up to his other films. Also The Game is one of my favorite all-time movies, I didn't realize at the time I watched it who directed it, then I saw Se7en and bought The Game and realized I'd known about it.

Very good article BUT I can't stand people calling Fight Club's protagonist as "Jack". He is NOT called Jack. He is only referred to as Narrator in the credits, and he is never called anything but Tyler Durden in both the book and the movie. The misconception of him being called Jack comes from a recurring line in the story where he states "I am Jack's ..." (my favorite being "I am Jack's wasted life", which I kid you not was the message printed next to my photo in my graduation's invitation).

I never realized how much Only has lyrics completely related to Fight Club. "i just made you up to hurt myself" and "there is no you, there is only me".... Color me impressed.

LysanderNemoinis:

That doesn't stop people like Bob or any politically correct person from finding a way to put politics into everything. Like how in mentioning there's a third Taken movie, he had to make sure to get in a little PC jab.

LarsInCharge:

Perhaps because this article had zero to do with anything political, so there was no political opinions to interject?

is the inclusion of women and minorities in media really political?

Vault101:
oh hey! fantasy scoreing! I'm not the only person to ever do this!

NIN actually lends himself really to this...I basically (in my head) matched "Year Zero" with Mass Effect 3 (go listen to vessel and tell me that isn't somone sucumbing to indoctrination/husification)

Would it be derailing the thread for us all to list out favorite fantasy scores? I'd recommend matching Asylum by Disturbed with Dead Rising 2.

Adam Locking:

Would it be derailing the thread for us all to list out favorite fantasy scores? I'd recommend matching Asylum by Disturbed with Dead Rising 2.

heh...disturbed...that takes me back...

EDIT: seriously though "The Great below" and Burial at sea fit together eeeryly well

its not a lyric heavy song but I can only remember fragments just off the top of my head, I see this as being from Elizabeths perspective (even if its sung by a guy) it could apply to Brooker too but the mood of the song lends it self more to the overbearing atmosphere of rapture rather than Columbia

OK, so is "fantasy score" an actual term, or is this a "p*$$y on the chain wax" kind of thing? I'm confused about that. I wasn't suggesting that this was a "Dark Side of Oz" situation. I have tried, a couple of times, from the opening credits to the intro of Tyler. It might work if started during the beating by Lou. Those punches sound a lot like the opening of Mr. Self Destruct, and there is more action in that part of the film. (But I haven't tried it yet).

My suggestion for that is to play NIN's Year Zero as soon as the text begins in Metropolis, it's kind of amazing.

Pink Floyd's Shine On You Crazy Diamond also matches up with The Animatrix Second Rennaisance part 1 (if you let the song play for about 2:08 and then start the video).

Those are a few I've found. Perhaps it would be a topic worthy of it's own thread.

Back to the article, I thought of another comparison after I had submitted it. The first verse of Closer is "You let me violate you. You let me desecrate you. You let me penetrate you. You let me complicate you." This could very easily be seen from Jack's perspective when infiltrating support groups.

Velventian:

And trent used to be someone who walked the talk but then we went on and said thats the end for him, i still have my "Wave Goodbye" shirt from that tour, and whoopsy 2 years later he´s back like nothing happened, only not so good :/

He never said that. He said he was only going to make NIN disappear for a while. I'm pretty sure he toured every year straight from 05 to 09 releasing four albums in that span of time. It was when he was working on two new songs for a greatest hits album he is still obligated to produce for Interscope that he got the inspiration to make Hesitation Marks. (Which is still a good album in its own right)

LysanderNemoinis:

LarsInCharge:

LysanderNemoinis:
Finally! Someone who can write a really interesting article that's a pleasure to read and very insightful without shoving a ton of their politics down the reader's throat. See Bob, it can be done.

Perhaps because this article had zero to do with anything political, so there was no political opinions to interject?

That doesn't stop people like Bob or any politically correct person from finding a way to put politics into everything. Like how in mentioning there's a third Taken movie, he had to make sure to get in a little PC jab.

I'm obviously brand new to this community, and should perhaps lurk a bit more before adding my two cents, but I did read Bob's review of Gone Girl this morning and he did talk about Fight Club and there was a political charge to his take.

The argument he makes seems solid enough, and I can see why he used Fight Club to demonstrate his point, but LysanderNemoinis makes a good point.

I would expect nothing less from the man who scored the first "Quake" game. And one of the best artists in rock music.

LysanderNemoinis:
Finally! Someone who can write a really interesting article that's a pleasure to read and very insightful without shoving a ton of their politics down the reader's throat. See Bob, it can be done.

I've seen Ross Lincoln do that to, in his articles that aren't cosplay photo montages. I guess that's why his weekly column's titles "Social Justice Warrior".

Vault101:
oh hey! fantasy scoreing! I'm not the only person to ever do this!

NIN actually lends himself really to this...I basically (in my head) matched "Year Zero" with Mass Effect 3 (go listen to vessel and tell me that isn't somone sucumbing to indoctrination/husification)

also a few songs from Linkin Parks Thousands suns (catalyst...huh?..huh?)

oh oh oh oh! and "the great below" (from his album the fragile) IS BIOSHCOK INFINITE BURIAL AT SEA

...this is probably why I like NIN so much

EDIT: AND "THE DAY THE WORLD WENT AWAY" IS A ZOMBIE SOOOOOOOONNNGGG!!!

You guys want to try another movie/album mix? Play Pink Floyd's "The Wall" and Pixar's WALL-E at the same time.

Imperioratorex Caprae:
As a nearly lifelong NIN fan I have to say this is a well done article, I want to see more of this please. (background: as a nine-year-old I bought one of my first cassette tapes on the basis of "oh that cover looks cool!" It turned out to be NIN's Pretty Hate Machine, thus solidifying my love for all things Nails for life. Oh I was a messed up kid.)

Downward Spiral: Easily one of Trent's best, if not the best, album. I've spent years self-remixing and DJ-style spinning vinyls just this record alone. Beautiful from start to finish, and so very poignant. I felt that Fight Club fits this album quite spectacularly and being a fan of the author, I knew well this guy totally listened to that album. Hell, maybe thats why the twisted nature didn't surprise me all that much, and the movie (give credit to the Dust Brothers for an awesome soundtrack) was just perfect along that tone. I'd love to see if there's a way to re-score the movie with Downward Spiral and/or Further Down the Spiral's remixes.

EDIT: Also got to give a shout out to Trent Reznor as the artist who gets his fans. All his shows are about a fan experience, I've seen 'em three times. Once on the Fragility 2.0 tour, once on the With Teeth tour and lastly at Lights in the Sky. All three were not a concert but a fucking experience to behold. And Trent really connects with his fans, feeds off them and puts on one hell of a show... so unique. Best. Concerts. Ever. And another nod to Trent for releasing The Slip for absolutely free after he split with Interscope, kind of as a fuck you and kind of as a thank you to the fans.

YES! This x 1000000! My brother and I saw them at the Shoreline Amphitheater in Mountain View, CA, in August with Soundgarden and they kicked ass! NIN especially put on a helluva show, with all kinds of crazy lighting and video effects. He started with "Copy of a" and did a lot of recent-ish songs and some of Downward Spiral, ending with "Hurt" appropriately enough.

m00se:
The Downward Spiral of Fight Club

Trent Reznor and David Fincher have collaborated on a lot of films, but oddly Fight Club wasn't one of them.

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This was...actually a pretty good read. I have a question for you: Have you heard of The Megas or The Protomen? If so, I'd like to hear/read your thoughts on them.

Never heard of them, but thanks for the lead. I'll check them out. I had no idea there was a modern Megaman-themed band, and now I know there are at least two!

I grew up in the NES generation, so I have an affinity for the 8 bit sound. Have you heard Pretty Eight Machine? It's a fan made tribute to the first NIN album done entirely with old video game sounds.

Always been a fan of both NIN and Fincher, I never noticed any of this! This was a very interesting read, thank you!

I saw NIN in Melbourne this year, it was an amazing show. They shared the stage with Queens of the Stone Age, I'm wearing my QOTSA shirt now actually.

I was a fan of Trent Reznor all throughout the 90's. I still remember when there were concert fliers that referred to him as the King of Industrial and no one really felt that was inappropriate at the time. It did feel however that after the 90's he seemed to have forgotten how to Industrial. His last album seemed to have shown some sign that he might be starting to remember but he still has a way to go before he releases anything of the caliber of Pretty Hate Machine, Broken, or The Downward Spiral. I'm really rooting for him to get there. He'll I would be happy if he did anything like what he did when he was a member of 1000 Homo DJ's or Pigface.

 

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