So What Is Suicide Squad, Anyway?

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So What Is Suicide Squad, Anyway?

In case you're confused, Bob breaks down Warner Bros. and DC's supervillain supergroup.

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I'm gonna be very curious who they have play Amanda Waller. Every incarnation since the Justice League cartoons went off the air has been a skinny pinprick of a women instead of the meatier badass from before. This has even gone on in the comics which shouldn't need to make her a damn pinprick, but do because sexy bits. I'm still not over how annoyin that is to me.

Do I expect it to change at all? Fuck no, but I can still hold out hope that she won't be paper thin and will instead be, at the very least, not a god damn supermodel.

Edit - I know this is now goin to sound like a throwaway line, since its in the form of an edit, but it will also be important that she's imposing. She absolutely, positively needs to have presence and that presence can't be "I have giant tits." The woman they have playin Amanda Waller in Arrow is an example of that. She's still supermodely, but at the same time you know, just by lookin at the way she carries herself and the way she talks to people, that if she wanted to she could kill you where you stand.

I don't think Oprah has the acting chops. She's got a major name, and a similar story, but does she have the ability to fake those emotions?

They just need to get C. C. H. Pounder to play Waller. She had the perfect voice in JLU and she looks the part as well.

Also, in regards to Harley Quinn. Disregard and completely ignore everything outside BTAS or Mad Love. Especially 52. You'll thank me later.

I wish the article had a little more in terms of character explanations, but the main reason I'm commenting is to lament the 8-page, ad revenue whoring, click bait nature of the article. This was 8 pages of fluff with ads attached.

Well, huh. While I'm really not at all interested in that Superman/Batman crossover movie (which is slightly blasphemous, as despite whatever the quality turns out to be it is going to be a major milestone in geek culture), this one at least has me curious. I'll keep an eye on it.

Get Viola Davis for Waller if Oprah's too busy... would probably turn out better. And thanks, Bob, ever since I heard the casting I needed to know more, this is exactly the context I was hoping for... go figure!

shintakie10:
I'm gonna be very curious who they have play Amanda Waller. Every incarnation since the Justice League cartoons went off the air has been a skinny pinprick of a women instead of the meatier badass from before. This has even gone on in the comics which shouldn't need to make her a damn pinprick, but do because sexy bits. I'm still not over how annoyin that is to me.

Do I expect it to change at all? Fuck no, but I can still hold out hope that she won't be paper thin and will instead be, at the very least, not a god damn supermodel.

Edit - I know this is now goin to sound like a throwaway line, since its in the form of an edit, but it will also be important that she's imposing. She absolutely, positively needs to have presence and that presence can't be "I have giant tits." The woman they have playin Amanda Waller in Arrow is an example of that. She's still supermodely, but at the same time you know, just by lookin at the way she carries herself and the way she talks to people, that if she wanted to she could kill you where you stand.

I'm not crazy about Arrow's take on her. The woman looks like she's in her late-20s and 90 pounds soaking wet (this is CW we're talking about). I'm not saying she should be a perfect replica of the comic book character, but she doesn't give me that intimidating, cold-hearted agent vibe Waller should.

Crimson_Dragoon:

shintakie10:
I'm gonna be very curious who they have play Amanda Waller. Every incarnation since the Justice League cartoons went off the air has been a skinny pinprick of a women instead of the meatier badass from before. This has even gone on in the comics which shouldn't need to make her a damn pinprick, but do because sexy bits. I'm still not over how annoyin that is to me.

Do I expect it to change at all? Fuck no, but I can still hold out hope that she won't be paper thin and will instead be, at the very least, not a god damn supermodel.

Edit - I know this is now goin to sound like a throwaway line, since its in the form of an edit, but it will also be important that she's imposing. She absolutely, positively needs to have presence and that presence can't be "I have giant tits." The woman they have playin Amanda Waller in Arrow is an example of that. She's still supermodely, but at the same time you know, just by lookin at the way she carries herself and the way she talks to people, that if she wanted to she could kill you where you stand.

I'm not crazy about Arrow's take on her. The woman looks like she's in her late-20s and 90 pounds soaking wet (this is CW we're talking about). I'm not saying she should be a perfect replica of the comic book character, but she doesn't give me that intimidating, cold-hearted agent vibe Waller should.

Oh I'm not crazy about the look, but the way she carries herself is perfect. Her facial expressions honestly do feel like she's perfectly willing, and capable, to have someone kill you where you stand with the tiniest gesture. She's able to make herself look in control no matter the situation. If she was about 10 years older and had some more muscle mass on her I'd say she was a perfect Amanda Waller.

vxicepickxv:
I don't think Oprah has the acting chops. She's got a major name, and a similar story, but does she have the ability to fake those emotions?

Oprah was nominated for an Oscar for her role in The Color Purple (which obviously required a LOT more "emotions" than Suicide Squad will!!!). So... yeah, she's got the acting chops.

On another note... could DC shorten Captain Boomerang to just Boomerang? I'm not so sure... Marvel's got their own villain Boomerang, one of Spidey's C-List villains, and a former Thunderbolt. There frankly is VERY little to differentiate the two characters other than the slightly different name, so it seems like if they tried to just call him "Boomerang", Marvel (or Sony, I guess) might take issue.

I know CCH Pounder will be cast but...
If I had a genie...

Condolezza effing Rice.
I know she's not an actress(on the big screen anyhow), but she was born to play Amanda Waller.

Nu52 SS is bad, real bad. At least the Animated movie was better (though not by much but I liked it regardless.

P.S. It's not implied anymore Ivy and Harley rub leaves regularly since the Nu52. (or at least they've dropped the pretence)

Is the movie going to be PG13? Nothing guarantees a hit movie than a bunch of renowned psychopaths not gruesomely murdering people by the score.

undeadsuitor:
They just need to get C. C. H. Pounder to play Waller. She had the perfect voice in JLU and she looks the part as well.

Also, in regards to Harley Quinn. Disregard and completely ignore everything outside BTAS or Mad Love. Especially 52. You'll thank me later.

Basically ignore any Harley stuff not written by Paul Dini.

As per Waller: I'm less concerned about appearance and want to make sure they really get someone who can give the "I will kill you" attitude and play that well. That being said appearance still is a concern for me.

Oprah "my butthole's an ATM" Winfrey as Amanda Waller? no.. no .. noooooooooooooooooooo!.. that's an even worst idea then casting will smith as the white character Deadshot.. i hope the oprah casting thing is just a joke ( a really bad joke, but a joke nonetheless).. and i also hope they cast someone else besides will smith as dead shot

Wait, Will Smith is Deadshot? Like "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" Will Smith?

That's certainly...interesting.

the idea of Oprah playing Waller feels similar to the idea of Schwarzenegger playing Mr. Freeze.

So... yeah, as much as I love Harley getting on screen and a new Joker coming soon, I'll pass if Oprah gets cast. I can handle a big name like Will Smith because he's at least a good actor. But can we avoid big names for more roles if they aren't actors... or even good actors? Just get people who fit the roles well. Learn your lessons from the problems in the original run of Batman films WB.

What, no appearance of the legendary Suicide Squid?

Ah, how fallen are the mighty heroes of yesteryear...

Amanda Walker basically resembles a refrigerator with a six-pack of whoopass inside her and it's widely understood that the door is loose.

vxicepickxv:
I don't think Oprah has the acting chops. She's got a major name, and a similar story, but does she have the ability to fake those emotions?

Everyone seems to forget she was an actress before the talk show. She got a lot of acclaim for her role in The Color Purple.

Amanda Waller was such a great character in the JL cartoons. The Batman Beyond epilogue had me in nearly tears.

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Aww not bloody Boomer. Digger is Boomerang, he is cowardly, morally bankrupt, and a cold hearted killer that everyone dismisses as a joke. Boomer is a stock DC good guy. Boring McBore-Bore.

Movie will suck now.

Aside from not thinking the Joker belongs in the Suicide Squad, it has a great cast.

Ihateregistering1:
Wait, Will Smith is Deadshot? Like "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" Will Smith?

That's certainly...interesting.

The more I think about it, the more I think its a good idea. Smith has an almost unearthly charm and charisma that makes him highly likeable in pretty much anything (we will ignore After Earth...) and if you're going to make a killer for hire with hundreds of deaths to his name one of the protagonists of your movie then he better be a really damn likeable killer for hire. With Smith as Deadshot we will want to root for him, no matter what despicable things he does

SilverUchiha:
the idea of Oprah playing Waller feels similar to the idea of Schwarzenegger playing Mr. Freeze.

So... yeah, as much as I love Harley getting on screen and a new Joker coming soon, I'll pass if Oprah gets cast. I can handle a big name like Will Smith because he's at least a good actor. But can we avoid big names for more roles if they aren't actors... or even good actors? Just get people who fit the roles well. Learn your lessons from the problems in the original run of Batman films WB.

you do realise she WAS an actor?

ok ok It was a surprise to me too (Color purple, she played sofia) but there ya go

Harley Quinn maybe bi-sexual with Poison Ivy?
Didn't know that. So is Poison Ivy also bi, then?
Since I am pretty sure she loves to hit on Batman and other men, no?

Vault101:

SilverUchiha:
the idea of Oprah playing Waller feels similar to the idea of Schwarzenegger playing Mr. Freeze.

you do realise she WAS an actor?

So was Schwarzenegger. It didn't help.

MovieBob:
It's going to be interesting to see how Leto's vision of the Clown Prince of Crime is received, given how fresh the late Heath Ledger's iconic take still is in the minds of many fans.

Batman Begins was nearly a decade ago. I don't think that really counts as fresh any more.

Kenjitsuka:
Harley Quinn maybe bi-sexual with Poison Ivy?
Didn't know that. So is Poison Ivy also bi, then?
Since I am pretty sure she loves to hit on Batman and other men, no?

Ivy hit's on men but only to manipulate them. Really shes an unconfirmed Lesbain since her fling with Harley Quinn is the only relationship she has ever had.

Poison Ivy even made Harley Quinn immune to her toxins (which also gave Quinn some superhuman durablity) so they could get intimate without Quinn dying.

So, who do you think will die in this movie? A recurring theme of Suicide Squad (hence the name) is that they can off some members during the mission just to prove the stakes got real. That is also the reason why they include B or C list villains nobody will miss: as a rule of thumb, if you can't name who this guy is or who is his nemesis, chances are he is not going to make it...

My money is on Enchantress.

Angelous Wang:

Kenjitsuka:
Harley Quinn maybe bi-sexual with Poison Ivy?
Didn't know that. So is Poison Ivy also bi, then?
Since I am pretty sure she loves to hit on Batman and other men, no?

Ivy hit's on men but only to manipulate them. Really shes an unconfirmed Lesbain since her fling with Harley Quinn is the only relationship she has ever had.

Poison Ivy even made Harley Quinn immune to her toxins (which also gave Quinn some superhuman durablity) so they could get intimate without Quinn dying.

That is not technically true. The Ivy/Quinn romantic relationship was created by fans, and the writers just let it be (and occasionally play around with).

Ivy made Quinn immune to her toxins so they could live in the wasteland swamp that was her HQ. Quinn being immune being the only way she could survive for more than a few hours.

Kahani:

Vault101:

SilverUchiha:
the idea of Oprah playing Waller feels similar to the idea of Schwarzenegger playing Mr. Freeze.

you do realise she WAS an actor?

So was Schwarzenegger. It didn't help.

MovieBob:
It's going to be interesting to see how Leto's vision of the Clown Prince of Crime is received, given how fresh the late Heath Ledger's iconic take still is in the minds of many fans.

Batman Begins was nearly a decade ago. I don't think that really counts as fresh any more.

Unlike Ahnold, Oprah is actually an excellent actress. Again... oscar-nominated.

...and Ledger wasn't in Batman Begins, so what's your point?

We all know Yvette Nicole Brown is the perfect fit to play Amanda Waller. (Watch Repo Men if you need proof)

Ivy always seemed more bi for Catwoman than Harley.

I guess I'm a Python fan first... :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8

Vault101:

SilverUchiha:
the idea of Oprah playing Waller feels similar to the idea of Schwarzenegger playing Mr. Freeze.

So... yeah, as much as I love Harley getting on screen and a new Joker coming soon, I'll pass if Oprah gets cast. I can handle a big name like Will Smith because he's at least a good actor. But can we avoid big names for more roles if they aren't actors... or even good actors? Just get people who fit the roles well. Learn your lessons from the problems in the original run of Batman films WB.

you do realise she WAS an actor?

ok ok It was a surprise to me too (Color purple, she played sofia) but there ya go

Doesn't change my point I don't want to see her in the film.

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