Zero Punctuation: Sonic Boom - Boom or Bust

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Sonic Boom - Boom or Bust

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Sonic Boom.

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I think Jim Sterling nailed the Sonic problem - they just change it up too much, and can't settle down on anything that works long enough to polish it.

Sonic Boom!
Sonic Boom!
Sonic Boom!
Savin' Sega from disaster!

Yes. At long last has this game shat it's way into ZP. I just can't contain my glee. I almost feel that Yahtzee could've made a thirty minute long video explaining why it's shit!

Anyway, to the surprise of absolutely fucking no-one, it's bad. Bad, bad, bad, bad and you shouldn't play it, is my take. I was actually suprised that freeing the villain was on the first quarter of the game rather than in the middle.

I suppose Yahtzee has a new Worst GOTY contender for his end of the year list. Which would go something like:

1) Sonic Boom
2) The Evil Within
3) Thief
4) Lightning Returns
5) Hyrule Warriors

Why yes, I do have that Sonic CD song stuck in my head since you brought it up... But, jokes on you, I LOVE that song and am willing to play the entire soundtrack to Sonic R afterwards...

Other than that, "You bought me" is probably the best quip Sonic Boom could ever say to anyone who bought the game because it has "Sanic and Friends" on the box cover...

I wouldn't say that the influx of broken and bad Sonic games of today are retroactively ruining the old games. Sonic 3 & Knuckles is still as good as it was back in '94.

FPLOON:
Other than that, "You bought me" is probably the best quip Sonic Boom could ever say to anyone who bought the game because it has "Sanic and Friends" on the box cover...

Yeah...that should have been a forgettable cheap shot, but I still laughed at it.

As a lifelong fan of Sonic the Hedgehog, one of the biggest crimes of Sonic Boom to me is that it's forever tarnished said fantastic opening song from Sonic CD.

But you should never say nobody would defend something; there are apparently some people out there who actually defend even Sonic '06.

Anyone else think that Yahtzee comparing those games to elderly patients lining up to die, made it seem like he was trying too hard to be edgy? He does comparisons like that a lot and it seems to be wearing thin. The games aren't even terrible or anything.

Johnny Novgorod:
I suppose Yahtzee has a new Worst GOTY contender for his end of the year list. Which would go something like:

1) Sonic Boom
2) The Evil Within
3) Thief
4) Lightning Returns
5) Hyrule Warriors

I disagree on Hyrule Warriors. Yahtzee didn't exactly say it was bad/horrible, just that it was boring to him and the plot was nonsensical(to him, at least.).

I say Risen 3, Sacred 3, Advanced Warfare, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Watch_Dogs or Destiny fit better on the list than Hyrule Warriors does. Then again, that can just be my inner Nintendo fan talking........

The thing that really bothers me about this game is that Sega will probably use this game as an example to claim that Americans can't handle Sonic games and prevent Team Headcanon from getting any creative control, despite them being the only ones who have made good Sonic games lately.

Before I watch the video and comment on this topic can I just say two things that need to be clear? 1: Outside of publishing this turd, SEGA does not deserve the hatred they're getting for it. This was Big Red Button's baby. They should be the ones getting the blame. It's ESPECIALLY unforgiving since they've worked on Naughty Dog classics like the Jak games so they should know better than this. And 2. Yahtzee you better pay damn close attention to the comments this time. Don't be like you were the week after you dissed Sonic Generations and said "it seems all people seem to except that Sonic just sucks nowadays" when there a good 20 or so people telling you that Generations wasn't bad. That's another thing that's made me suspect bias from you nowadays.

Okay got that out of the way.

::one viewing later::

Okay it's mostly what I expected him to say Yeah I can't defend this game for being awful outside of the fact that we're blaming the wrong company when they're only partially to blame this time. Here's my solution, instead of petitioning for Sonic to die, how about we just sell his rights to another company. I hear all the time how people want that to happen to Mega Man but there's never a talk of doing that with Sonic. Y'know people, the way that Sonic's being treated isn't equivalent of a celebrity past their prime and screwing up in a desperate attempt to be cool and relevant again, (that analogy would go to CoD) but rather abuse of a video game character. And Sonic Boom is the worst kind of abuse you can do to something.

I can wager you feeling rather nice after that review.

Btw Sonic fans that are smart enough bought Freedom Planet.

shrekfan246:
As a lifelong fan of Sonic the Hedgehog, one of the biggest crimes of Sonic Boom to me is that it's forever tarnished said fantastic opening song from Sonic CD.

But you should never say nobody would defend something; there are apparently some people out there who actually defend even Sonic '06.

I remember when I got the Sega CD for my birthday and I was probably the only kid in a 100km radius that had it and I played Sonic CD. The intro and outro blew me away.

As for Sonic 06, I'm a firm believer that Sega should just have an online contest of some sort for modders and programmers teams and the winning team would be given Sonic 06's source code to fix as they see fit and re-publish for free a year or 2 down the road.

Toblo1:

Johnny Novgorod:
I suppose Yahtzee has a new Worst GOTY contender for his end of the year list. Which would go something like:

1) Sonic Boom
2) The Evil Within
3) Thief
4) Lightning Returns
5) Hyrule Warriors

I disagree on Hyrule Warriors. Yahtzee didn't exactly say it was bad/horrible, just that it was boring to him and the plot was nonsensical(to him, at least.).

I say Risen 3, Sacred 3, Advanced Warfare, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Watch_Dogs or Destiny fit better on the list than Hyrule Warriors does.

This is what he called Hyrule Warriors:

"Blatant marketing exercize"
"It's Dynasty Warriors with Zelda in it"
"Plot goes through the usual motions"
"I enjoyed the story mode because it kept making me laugh"
"Standard" and "Hackneyed"
"I found the gameplay rather dull"
"There's never any sense that the training wheels are coming off"
"Switching between weapons is incredibly awkward"
"There's got to be a better use for a touchscreen controller in a battlefield simulator"
"The [Zelda] games are interchangeable"
"The game climaxes before the end and then walks awkwardly for five more missions"
"The game is basically a bland reminder that the franchise exists until the next proper game comes out"

Not saying the games you mentioned are better or worse or don't have just as many negative quips to them. But Yahtzee didn't find Hyrule Warriors "just boring".

Then again, that can just be my inner Nintendo fan talking........

That depends. Would you try to defend Sonic Boom, another Nintendo game?

Johnny Novgorod:

That depends. Would you try to defend Sonic Boom, another Nintendo game?

Just because it is exclusive to a Nintendo platform does not make it a Nintendo game just as Monster Hunter Portable 3rd is no more a Sony game despite being a PSP exclusive. This is a Sega game and a Sega game alone

"Taking it out on something that no one with even a passing interest in reality will defend" is actually a fitting end for a year of reviews. It's like setting a gravestone for someone an angry mob buried alive. It even follows a trend of Wii U game reviews ending Zero Punctuation years.

In 2012, Yahtzee greeted the new console with ZombiU, hoping for improvement after an adequate launch.
In 2013, he ran up to Super Mario 3D World and punched it in the face as it was making a speech like Martin Luther King's about ushering in a new age of traditionally fun 3D Nintendo games and adopted franchises.
And now he addresses the kind of crap the poor console got stuck with like screaming children on its ankles.

Johnny Novgorod:
I suppose Yahtzee has a new Worst GOTY contender for his end of the year list. Which would go something like:

1) Sonic Boom
2) The Evil Within
3) Thief
4) Lightning Returns
5) Hyrule Warriors

Goodness, I wanted to love Thief so much.

I am so sad that it sucked so badly. "Garret" could only climb certain things and follow specific paths. I would nearly bump it up a few spots, but I guess I am no Yahtzee.

Alex Baas:

Johnny Novgorod:

That depends. Would you try to defend Sonic Boom, another Nintendo game?

Just because it is exclusive to a Nintendo platform does not make it a Nintendo game just as Monster Hunter Portable 3rd is no more a Sony game despite being a PSP exclusive. This is a Sega game and a Sega game alone

A Sega game you can exclusively play on the Wii U is also called a Wii U exclusive.

"You bought me!"
"Touché."

May have been the greatest closer in aaaaages.

Obbi:
I think Jim Sterling nailed the Sonic problem - they just change it up too much, and can't settle down on anything that works long enough to polish it.

Also, bounce pads.

ape escape wasn't pre-analog stick Yahtzee, in fact, iirc, it was the first game that NEEDED analog sticks and was unplayable without

Wait, using Ape Escape as an example of a "pre-analog stick PS1 game"? Not only did Ape Escape support analog sticks, it was the first game on the system to actually require them. You really couldn't have picked a worse example there.

EDIT: Damn it, a few seconds too late.

Johnny Novgorod:

Alex Baas:

Johnny Novgorod:

That depends. Would you try to defend Sonic Boom, another Nintendo game?

Just because it is exclusive to a Nintendo platform does not make it a Nintendo game just as Monster Hunter Portable 3rd is no more a Sony game despite being a PSP exclusive. This is a Sega game and a Sega game alone

A Sega game you can exclusively play on the Wii U is also called a Wii U exclusive.

But it is still not a Nintendo game. The arguement you seem to be presenting seems based on the fact that Nintendo fans will flock to any game that is exclusive to their platform no matter who made it. This is not the case, because Nintendo fans like games made by Nintendo.

Yahtzee, I think it's past the time to take sonic out back behind the shed...

I've been watching the Game Grumps playthrough of this and I must admit, it's hand holding really helps lost little Arin and his short attention span. But I've been enjoying them tear into it as much as TBF have been ripping on The Evil Within. I suppose I'm just sadistic. But it really is a terribly put together game. And it's almost a shame because the graphics and atmosphere almost make it feel like it could have been an awesome PS2 platformer...if it were handled by another developer and it didn't have Sonic in it.

crazygameguy4ever:
Yahtzee, I think it's past the time to take sonic out back behind the shed...

Nah, I don't think we need to do that with poor old Sonic - just the head-up-the-ass SEGA execs who keep screwing him over and over. Seriously, the reason that Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom sucked so much was that SEGA simultaneously sliced and diced the team that was creating the games, and forcing the poor sods left to work on a rushed timeline to boot the misshapen mass that the "game" had become out the door for an arbitrary deadline. Just look at these articles to see how the Sonic Boom development team got shafted, had to severely cut back on the game, and STILL couldn't release what was left in a workable state:

http://www.sonicstadium.org/2014/11/the-spin-sonic-boom-what-happened-part-1/
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2014/11/the-spin-sonic-boom-what-the-heck-happened-part-2/

On the plus side, the Sonic Boom cartoon show seems to be doing pretty well, even if it's gotten some criticism from die-hard Sonic fans: pretty ironic that a TV Sonic would be doing pretty well, while its actual games would be considered just passable (Shattered Crystal) or downright broken (Rise of Lyric).

I too wonder who the people are that keep buying these games such that they're profitable. I mean, they are profitable, aren't they? Or they wouldn't keep churning out this garbage?

Hey people, whoever you are! Stop buying bad games!

Johnny Novgorod:

Toblo1:

Johnny Novgorod:
I suppose Yahtzee has a new Worst GOTY contender for his end of the year list. Which would go something like:

1) Sonic Boom
2) The Evil Within
3) Thief
4) Lightning Returns
5) Hyrule Warriors

I disagree on Hyrule Warriors. Yahtzee didn't exactly say it was bad/horrible, just that it was boring to him and the plot was nonsensical(to him, at least.).

I say Risen 3, Sacred 3, Advanced Warfare, Amazing Spider-Man 2, Watch_Dogs or Destiny fit better on the list than Hyrule Warriors does.

This is what he called Hyrule Warriors:

"Blatant marketing exercize"
"It's Dynasty Warriors with Zelda in it"
"Plot goes through the usual motions"
"I enjoyed the story mode because it kept making me laugh"
"Standard" and "Hackneyed"
"I found the gameplay rather dull"
"There's never any sense that the training wheels are coming off"
"Switching between weapons is incredibly awkward"
"There's got to be a better use for a touchscreen controller in a battlefield simulator"
"The [Zelda] games are interchangeable"
"The game climaxes before the end and then walks awkwardly for five more missions"
"The game is basically a bland reminder that the franchise exists until the next proper game comes out"

Not saying the games you mentioned are better or worse or don't have just as many negative quips to them. But Yahtzee didn't find Hyrule Warriors "just boring".

Then again, that can just be my inner Nintendo fan talking........

That depends. Would you try to defend Sonic Boom, another Nintendo game?

To clarify: I meant that Hyrule Warriors (both the game and Yahtzee's vid) doesn't exactly feel like Worst GOTY list material. Yahtzee's shredded worse games this year than Hyrule Warriors (Regardless of whether people liked it or not), and considering what games Yahtzee has had to put up with, like Sonic Boom, there's not much chance of Hyrule Warriors winding up on that list.

Captcha: "Someday is here." Not exactly.....

MaddKossack115:

crazygameguy4ever:
Yahtzee, I think it's past the time to take sonic out back behind the shed...

Nah, I don't think we need to do that with poor old Sonic - just the head-up-the-ass SEGA execs who keep screwing him over and over. Seriously, the reason that Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom sucked so much was that SEGA simultaneously sliced and diced the team that was creating the games, and forcing the poor sods left to work on a rushed timeline to boot the misshapen mass that the "game" had become out the door for an arbitrary deadline. Just look at these articles to see how the Sonic Boom development team got shafted, had to severely cut back on the game, and STILL couldn't release what was left in a workable state:

http://www.sonicstadium.org/2014/11/the-spin-sonic-boom-what-happened-part-1/
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2014/11/the-spin-sonic-boom-what-the-heck-happened-part-2/

On the plus side, the Sonic Boom cartoon show seems to be doing pretty well, even if it's gotten some criticism from die-hard Sonic fans: pretty ironic that a TV Sonic would be doing pretty well, while its actual games would be considered just passable (Shattered Crystal) or downright broken (Rise of Lyric).

I caught an episode of sonic boom and it's really bad.. and stupid.. it's just plain awful in every sense of the word.. at least you don't have to pay $60 to watch it.. which is the only upside.

That final exchange seems like the design motto of the people that makes the modern Sonic. At this point, anyone dumb enough to buy the modern games, is dumb enough no level of contempt displayed by the developers seems enough.

Yahtzee tearing apart a Sonic game? Sounds about right.

Redlin5:
Yahtzee tearing apart a Sonic game? Sounds about right.

Everyone expected this to happen. Nobody likes Sonic publicly anymore.

At this point, I think Sega should outsource Sonic to four year-olds. Buying a new Sonic game would equate to buying a piece of construction paper with a poorly-drawn Sonic on it, accompanied by the words "Throw the paper around the room to go fast". DLC would involve more pieces of paper with scrawled-on representations of Eggman and Sonic's usual partners-in-sucking.

So, a little bit like this:

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IamLEAM1983:

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You're not funny. Memes that aren't funny are the worst memes.

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