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Top 10 Movies of 2014

What were the best movies in 2014?

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So a certain amount of the Top 5 is better than all of the films of 2012 in Bob's opinion? That's pretty cool and I'm surprised that I remembered to write this down when that was my first thought when seeing that other list earlier this year.

Also fuck yes for The Grand Budapest Hotel, there was nothing that wasn't absolutely wonderful or a delight in that film.

Looks like a pretty solid list. I hadn't seen some of the movies on there, but I am interested in a couple of the ones I hadn't seen yet. I'll have to check them out for sure.

Gee I wonder what next week's episode will be about?

I'm guessing Godzilla will appear in the other 10 movies of 2014?

Scarim Coral:
I'm guessing Godzilla will appear in the other 10 movies of 2014?

I dunno, unlike with Man of Steel he went from disappointed to "it was pretty good" with Godzilla 2014, lumping it together with Maleficent and Lucy I guess which I doubt will appear on his worst list.

Scarim Coral:
I'm guessing Godzilla will appear in the other 10 movies of 2014?

Probably. Though I'd be willing to wager it will have the caveat Man of Steel had last time. Not necessarily the worst but most disappointing in his eyes.

A fine list apart from GotG which makes my number 1 of most disappointing list not worst (still top 5 worst though) just disappointing which is a worse sin :)

Scarim Coral:
I'm guessing Godzilla will appear in the other 10 movies of 2014?

Maybe, but I'm pretty sure that TMNT and Amazing Spider man 2 will be there.

I don't understand the love for Snowpiercer. It was really great up until the last fifteen minutes, then it became an absolute mess. Too many ideas being bounced around ended in a finale that was trying to balance too many themes and plot threads. The last few shots of the movie are supposed to be hopeful, but

Sure would be nice to be able to see Snowpiercer in the cinema in the UK! Guess i'll have to make do with the DVD. :/

I'm not really surprised that Bob's list gets less interesting as it gets towards number one, with only Selma being in the number two spot really throwing a wrench in his system, just overall disappointed. While yes, Guardians was a good movie, it's still nothing really more than a studio movie that's a fun time but kind of throwaway. Just because the film was a "gamble" from Marvel (The hottest studio working right now that could literally sell tickets to anything they wanted), doesn't really merit it being the best film of the year when he leaves out probably more deserving films like Obvious Child, Only Lovers Left Alive, Boyhood, Adieu au langage, Mommy, and Birdman (Though I'm less surprised about that one since it lampoons his beloved superhero genre). I just honestly think that Bob has too much of a skew towards the Marvel films, because he acts like they're all these big daring projects when really they're carefully calculated films lacking in creative vision from actual filmmakers, product just to make money. And I can enjoy these movies, there's just no way I would ever put one at the top of a year end list.

Movies I expect to see on next week's list: Transformers 4 (I know he kinda liked that one, so maybe it'll be higher on the list) Amazing Spiderman 2, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (hell, that might even be number 1) and even though I don't really want to see it on the list...Godzilla.

And then maybe...I dunno, that Dracula movie? I'm trying to remember which movies he didn't care for much this year.

EDIT: Oh, Tusk. Tusk will most likely be on that list. I mean he disliked Tusk enough to do three weeks of explaining why Kevin Smith is awful now.

Also, was anyone else just a little bit surprised that Big Hero 6 wasn't on this list at all? Especially since he did seem to really like that one, and Frozen and Wreck-it-Ralph both made his lists for previous years.

I dunno, I thought Winter Soldier was better than Guardians. I enjoyed Guardians, but it had some problems that annoyed me. Like it's gimmicky 3D bullshit shots that distracted me at a few plot critical points, the fact that despite making Gamora a decent character, they didn't really give her anything to do, some minor pacing issues that probably didn't bother other people, but I'm a stickler for pacing . . .
Guardians is just a bit over-rated, I think. It's not bad, but I'd still only give it a 7 of 10, maybe an 8 if my second watch makes me notice some good things I didn't catch before.

Some great picks on Bob's list. I've seen a good number of them in theaters. Really need to see Snowpiercer sometime.

I kinda wish Bob gave more of a glowing review to John Wick. It's way better than he mentioned in his review; a lean and mean, hard -R action flick that is right up there with Dredd 3D and the two Raid movies. For a movie made for around $20 million, which is considered small in this age where budgets are in the hundreds of millions, it looks fantastic visually from beginning to end. It has action scenes that are perfectly paced without dragging on and it doesn't slow itself down for endless exposition by instead going with brief dialog scenes and a "show, don't tell" approach to explain who John Wick is and the world he lives in. It has a great cast of actors and shows that Keanu Reeves can still kick ass at age 50. It's coming out on DVD/Blu-ray in February of 2015 and I cannot recommend this highly enough.

As for the worst list, I can make a safe bet on which two superhero movies will be in the top five if not sitting in the #1 & 2 spot.

Scarim Coral:
I'm guessing Godzilla will appear in the other 10 movies of 2014?

I dunno, Bob's not gone on about his butt-hurt about Kevin Smith for awhile. I'd imagine that would likely make a re-appearance.

I can appreciate most of this list but I fall into the small group of people who saw Guardians and left disappointed. That movie just never thrilled or connected with me like Winter Soldier or the Avengers did. The action wasn't satisfying at all but I will say that the characters were all great and nicely fleshed out.

Okay predictions for next week's worst 10 films.

release order (you know for how many films came out he didn't review that many with multiple gaps this year)

The Legend of Hercules
Robocop
Winter's Tale
Amazing Spiderman 2 (I liked it)
TMNT
Tusk
Left Behind
Dumb & Dumber To
Exodus: Gods and Kings

Okay I can only think of 9 but I believe these 9 will be on the list.

Space Raccoons > MLK, that is what Bob just said.

Surprised at no Big Hero 6 (which I have yet to see due to being a UK resident) and How to Train Your Dragon 2 (saw it, loved it, bring on the threequel!). I REALLY need to see Snowpiercer, hearing nothing but good things about it, but Grand Budapest Hotel...I'm conflicted about that one. I loved the quirkiness, cinematography, and casting (Fiennes, Dafoe, Norton, and Goldblum in the same film? Me very much gusta), but I didn't find it compelling. Might watch it again to see if I am wrong about that, though. I remember being pretty damn tired at the time, maybe that impacted on my viewing.

Agree with Guardians as number 1. My girlfriend thought it was way too similar to The Avengers, but even if that is so (which it kinda is structurally), I freaking LOVED it. Thought I would love Rocket, ended up loving Groot more. But Rocket is still freaking awesome. As is Star Lord. And Gamora. And Drax. THERE WAS NO WEAK LINK WITH THOSE CHARACTERS, IT WAS ALL SO FREAKING GREAT.

As for Bob's worst films list, I'm counting on TMNT and Amazing Spider-Man 2 fighting for the top spot of that one. I personally think Amazing Spider-Man 2 will win out due to the whole situation regarding Sony right now, and there was some optimism from Bob pre-release, but TMNT also had that optimism with when the Turtles were revealed. Interstellar will be in the top 6 (not quite top 5, possibly) what with Bob's dislike of Nolan as of late. Looking forward to next week's video!

What does the guy in the Lego movie scream? It sounded to me like "verdammt", which is "damned" in german.

geier:
What does the guy in the Lego movie scream? It sounded to me like "verdammt", which is "damned" in german.

He's yelling "Spaceship!!". You'd have to see it, heh.

I didn't like Snowpiercer at all. Surprised to see "Under the Skin" there since I don't remember him reviewing it at all. But it is good. It can haunt you like only an indie "sci-fi horror but not really" can. And Scarlett Johansson is naked in it. Completely. Frontal nudity included.

My movie of the year is The Winter Soldier. It's amazing that a superhero movie can do everything so right. I have a list of best action movies of all time. A list that I don't edit so easily. Terminator 2 is still on top of that list. But The Winter Soldier got on it immediately. It's just so, so good.

bdcjacko:
Space Raccoons > MLK, that is what Bob just said.

I don't have a problem with that. MLK is an important historic figure, but in the end he was just a man. He was no genetically modified space racoon with a space bazooka.

Me chanting from 4:07 to 4:46
Say Birdman, say Birdman, say Birdman, say Birdman!

Me at 4:45
Fuck!
I probably should have seen that coming

Based on the number of movies that got positive reviews (from Bob) but are missing from the list, it looks like 2014 was a good movie year for Bob.

Swarles:
I'm not really surprised that Bob's list gets less interesting as it gets towards number one, with only Selma being in the number two spot really throwing a wrench in his system, just overall disappointed. While yes, Guardians was a good movie, it's still nothing really more than a studio movie that's a fun time but kind of throwaway. Just because the film was a "gamble" from Marvel (The hottest studio working right now that could literally sell tickets to anything they wanted), doesn't really merit it being the best film of the year when he leaves out probably more deserving films like Obvious Child, Only Lovers Left Alive, Boyhood, Adieu au langage, Mommy, and Birdman (Though I'm less surprised about that one since it lampoons his beloved superhero genre). I just honestly think that Bob has too much of a skew towards the Marvel films, because he acts like they're all these big daring projects when really they're carefully calculated films lacking in creative vision from actual filmmakers, product just to make money. And I can enjoy these movies, there's just no way I would ever put one at the top of a year end list.

That's why it comes down to a balance of personal tastes and criteria for what constitutes "Top".

And what constitutes an "actual filmmaker"? I get the impression from Marvel's writer, actors and directors that they really enjoy making these movies, especially from Joss Whedon. Doesn't that count for something beyond making money?

It's a pretty solid list. I could do without the sneering at "questionable source material" viz. Gone Girl, Fight Club, and Dragon Tattoo, though. Just a hint of the "it's achieved mass popularity so nyeehhhhhhh" there that gets people rolling their eyes at critics.

...Then again, MB seems to believe the strength of Marvel's movies comes from Silver Age source material, so *cough* *ahem* agree to disagree, wot?

V TheSystem V:
Agree with Guardians as number 1. My girlfriend thought it was way too similar to The Avengers, but even if that is so (which it kinda is structurally), I freaking LOVED it.

Having just rewatched Guardians and The Lego Movie in the last 48 hours, I'd say that GotG is much closer to Lego in terms of structure than it is to the Avenger's. They seem all the more similar when you're hearing the same voice from Emmet and Starlord.

So, Bottom 10 next week, huh? Interesting ;)

Anyway, Guardians at 1, Cap 2 at 2 and Raid 2 at 3.
The Johansen movie... it's kinda meh. Very slow and not much happens. Interesting to see where they are heading with it, but not a movie I'd rate above "quite decently made/pretty good I guess".

The ones further down the list I've not heard of; interesting you put The Raid 2 in the list as to me it was just another generic eastern action film (as in very missable).

ryukage_sama:

Swarles:
I'm not really surprised that Bob's list gets less interesting as it gets towards number one, with only Selma being in the number two spot really throwing a wrench in his system, just overall disappointed. While yes, Guardians was a good movie, it's still nothing really more than a studio movie that's a fun time but kind of throwaway. Just because the film was a "gamble" from Marvel (The hottest studio working right now that could literally sell tickets to anything they wanted), doesn't really merit it being the best film of the year when he leaves out probably more deserving films like Obvious Child, Only Lovers Left Alive, Boyhood, Adieu au langage, Mommy, and Birdman (Though I'm less surprised about that one since it lampoons his beloved superhero genre). I just honestly think that Bob has too much of a skew towards the Marvel films, because he acts like they're all these big daring projects when really they're carefully calculated films lacking in creative vision from actual filmmakers, product just to make money. And I can enjoy these movies, there's just no way I would ever put one at the top of a year end list.

That's why it comes down to a balance of personal tastes and criteria for what constitutes "Top".

And what constitutes an "actual filmmaker"? I get the impression from Marvel's writer, actors and directors that they really enjoy making these movies, especially from Joss Whedon. Doesn't that count for something beyond making money?

I guess it would have been better if he had said favourite rather than "Top" because that word has a sense of authority of what is the best of the best, I dunno.

What I mean by that is none of the movies really have a sense of the directors personality to it. I mean Only Lovers Left Alive feels like a Jarmusch film, Boyhood feels like a Linklater film, and Mommy feels like a Dolan film. None of the Marvel films really feel like someone is trying to get their own film across, it feels like they're trying to get the studio's film across. I mean that's the reason they fired Edgar Wright from a film he's been working on for years. Originally, Ant Man wasn't going to be part of the MCU and it was going to be an Edgar Wright film, however once they realized that they had the right to just print money with whatever was a part of the cinematic universe, Marvel shot down Wright's script and fired him from the project because it wasn't going to fit. I mean, there's obviously a reason they're hiring so many television directors to helm their projects, because they can fit well into an already established formula.

Also, from what I've seen, many of the actors don't really enjoy making the films, specifically Chris Evans. Don't take my word on that though, I believe they're only rumours.

I do not remember MovieBob reviewing half of these. This video is the first time I've heard of "Under The Skin", and I heard mixed thing s about Snowpiercer from a number of other places. And the MLK movie just came out, so it's a bit premature to put it on a best list, even right under Guardians of the Galaxy.
Here's my take on Marvel and its audience: the latter was forgiving of Marvel pulling geek icon Edgar Wright off of Ant-Man because they got another Geek Icon, James Gunn, to do Guardians. And they're finishing Ant-Man with the footage and effects Wright started with, not scrapping the whole bloody thing to start over.
Also, I'll join in the chorus singing "Where's Big Hero 6?!"

Adam Jensen:

bdcjacko:
Space Raccoons > MLK, that is what Bob just said.

I don't have a problem with that. MLK is an important historic figure, but in the end he was just a man. He was no genetically modified space racoon with a space bazooka.

Don't forget: a genetically modified space raccoon with a space bazooka, IN SPACE. And a talking tree monster.

Mikeyfell:
Me chanting from 4:07 to 4:46
Say Birdman, say Birdman, say Birdman, say Birdman!

Me at 4:45
Fuck!
I probably should have seen that coming

No, the right way to say it BIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRD MAN!
Oh, you weren't talking about the 3rd-rate superhero turned lawyer? Ha ha! Mistaken identity.

Swarles:

I guess it would have been better if he had said favourite rather than "Top" because that word has a sense of authority of what is the best of the best, I dunno.

Come on...'tis the season for these lists, and EVERYONE calls it a "Top 5" or "Top 10". It's just how things are done. The "opinion" part of it should be obvious. Hell, pretty soon, Escapist's annual staff "Top 5" lists will start showing up, and no one will bat an eye, because... well, none of them are MovieBob so it's not the hipster thing to do to hate on them.

Swarles:

ryukage_sama:

Swarles:
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That's why it comes down to a balance of personal tastes and criteria for what constitutes "Top".

And what constitutes an "actual filmmaker"? I get the impression from Marvel's writer, actors and directors that they really enjoy making these movies, especially from Joss Whedon. Doesn't that count for something beyond making money?

I guess it would have been better if he had said favourite rather than "Top" because that word has a sense of authority of what is the best of the best, I dunno.

Because of the signature authorship of this video series, I take it as a given that this is "MovieBob's Top 10" instead of say "The Escapist's Top 10". The inherent subjectivity in making a Top ___ list for anything that isn't strictly numerical means that there can never be an authoritative list. I rather like that the Escapist is doing so much to allow so many of their writing staff to present their own top 5 lists for the year.

What I mean by that is none of the movies really have a sense of the directors personality to it. I mean Only Lovers Left Alive feels like a Jarmusch film, Boyhood feels like a Linklater film, and Mommy feels like a Dolan film. None of the Marvel films really feel like someone is trying to get their own film across, it feels like they're trying to get the studio's film across. I mean that's the reason they fired Edgar Wright from a film he's been working on for years. Originally, Ant Man wasn't going to be part of the MCU and it was going to be an Edgar Wright film, however once they realized that they had the right to just print money with whatever was a part of the cinematic universe, Marvel shot down Wright's script and fired him from the project because it wasn't going to fit. I mean, there's obviously a reason they're hiring so many television directors to helm their projects, because they can fit well into an already established formula.

Also, from what I've seen, many of the actors don't really enjoy making the films, specifically Chris Evans. Don't take my word on that though, I believe they're only rumours.

You're right that the Marvel films don't carry a sense of auteur directing, writing or cinematography. You can see the signature influence at specific points, but it doesn't carry across the film as a whole.

I've reached the same conclusion about Evans. He has explicitly stated that he wants to be a director over an actor, which based on his limited range (albeit appropriately cast as far as I've seen) is probably for the best. It's hardly typical for an entire cast and crew to be emotionally and creatively invested in any given work, but there are those working in the franchise with a love for the work. Tom Hiddleston seems happy, and Kenneth Branagh approached Thor as a fan of the source material. All big budget blockbusters carry with them some scale of soulless, profit seeking management, but Marvel's films are far from the worst offenders in that regard while making broadly entertaining movies. That shouldn't be wholly discounted.

Next week is the intressing one.
I mean this was pretty straight forward (except a few I hadn't heard about), but next week can bring forward some surprises, as Bob also takes movies he hasn't rewieved.

1. Cap2
2. Dawn/Apes
3. Edge of Tomorrow
4. Hobbit 3
5. Guardians of the Galaxy
6. Big Hero 6
7. Lego Movie
8. X-Men 7
9. 22 Jump Street
10. Godzilla

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