That Freelancer Feel

That Freelancer Feel

This one is for the freelancers.

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Asking for money is a horrible experience though, when I went to school they regularly organized days where you would walk around and beg people for money towards charities, now I'm sure the people who would benefit from the charity appreciates it immensely, and I'm glad I could help, but rethinking back to begging strangers for money still gives me shudders

I love getting paid, I hate having to submit invoices... I have no idea why, but I totally understand that thought process, just not why it happens.

I thought there was something horribly wrong with me for feeling the exact same thing.

Damn, I thought this was going to be about Freelancer.

Signa:
Damn, I thought this was going to be about Freelancer.

You and me pal, You. And. Me.

(I miss you Freelancer, it's not the same without you, please come back.
No, I don't love Star Citizen, only You. Only You.)

Too much?

This is like me and taxes. I use an online site and it takes - at most - 2 hours. I get paid so little for my job that the government pays me thousands of dollars each year in apology. Still, I'll find every excuse I can why tomorrow would be a better day than tonight to file my taxes.

The reason I hated paperwork when I was freelancing was because it turned everything back into a job.

Same deal here, and I can't explain why? There is some natural aversion to filling in and sending out invoices that make it a loathed task of dread and despair. "Yay! Have 80 hours of bills les this week! I'm sure I'll actually get around to billing it out eventually... Ooo look gotta cycle the WoW Garrison!"

Hmm... when I was freelancing I felt no such aversion... probably because I REALLY needed the money.

It's paperwork, and nobody likes paperwork. I think we have an ingraned preference for the ol' "punch the timecard, get the paycheck" routine.

Scars Unseen:
This is like me and taxes. I use an online site and it takes - at most - 2 hours. I get paid so little for my job that the government pays me thousands of dollars each year in apology. Still, I'll find every excuse I can why tomorrow would be a better day than tonight to file my taxes.

Not me, buddy. I need that cash! You'll find me filing first day.

Signa:
Damn, I thought this was going to be about Freelancer.

Vendor-Lazarus:
You and me pal, You. And. Me.

(I miss you Freelancer, it's not the same without you, please come back.
No, I don't love Star Citizen, only You. Only You.)

Too much?

Me three. I want it back. Right now. Screw Microsoft for sitting on it and doing absolutely NOTHING with it.

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Oh well. See you, space freelancer.

OT: I'm not a freelancer at all so... What are invoices? o_o

Arnoxthe1:
Oh well. See you, space freelancer.

Arnoxthe1:
I'm not a freelancer at all so... What are invoices? o_o

Basically invoices are forms you send the company you've done work for asking to be paid for services you've provided. I think it's done because you're not on the company payroll so they need documents saying what you've done and why they gave you money, tax purposes and records pretty much.

Shinsei-J:

Arnoxthe1:
Oh well. See you, space freelancer.

Arnoxthe1:
I'm not a freelancer at all so... What are invoices? o_o

Basically invoices are forms you send the company you've done work for asking to be paid for services you've provided. I think it's done because you're not on the company payroll so they need documents saying what you've done and why they gave you money, tax purposes and records pretty much.

Oh I see. Thanks! Out of curiosity though, is it kinda hard to make it as a freelancer?

Then again, you probably wouldn't be a freelancer in the first place if you didn't hate money.

eBusiness:
Then again, you probably wouldn't be a freelancer in the first place if you didn't hate money.

Actually, in the right industry, with the right experience (and a little bit of self promotion), you can get significantly more as a freelancer than in a 9-5 job; $300/hour as a programmer is nothing to scoff at.

I wouldn't mind seeing that sort of money, but I don't have the stones, or the experience, for that sort of life.

Man, so relevant I fucking hate invoicing. And doing the weekly pay-hours.

I don't know why we have a system that practically makes the whole thing a minor data entry chore followed by a stock email but I still fucking despise doing them. I hate chasing them up when they haven't been paid on time even more.

Worst. Job. Ever.

Arnoxthe1:

Signa:
Damn, I thought this was going to be about Freelancer.

Vendor-Lazarus:
You and me pal, You. And. Me.

(I miss you Freelancer, it's not the same without you, please come back.
No, I don't love Star Citizen, only You. Only You.)

Too much?

Me three. I want it back. Right now. Screw Microsoft for sitting on it and doing absolutely NOTHING with it.

image

Oh well. See you, space freelancer.

OT: I'm not a freelancer at all so... What are invoices? o_o

I remember seeing a thing somewhere that said the reason that awesome game isn't on any digital distribution system is because nobody's quite sure who owns the rights. Digital Anvil dissolved, and Microsoft's rep said they took the rights with them...somehow. Look, can someone less lazy than me figure this out? I WANT TO BUY ANOTHER COPY OF THIS GAME SO I CAN PLAY IT WHEN I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE DISC.

Adept Mechanicus:
I remember seeing a thing somewhere that said the reason that awesome game isn't on any digital distribution system is because nobody's quite sure who owns the rights. Digital Anvil dissolved, and Microsoft's rep said they took the rights with them...somehow. Look, can someone less lazy than me figure this out? I WANT TO BUY ANOTHER COPY OF THIS GAME SO I CAN PLAY IT WHEN I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE DISC.

The only way to buy the game right now is to buy it on Amazon or Ebay. Disregarding the, err, more illegal methods.

I do free lancing and my only worry is that the client will see through my carefully crafted professional invoice and realise I am a hack fraud who understands nothing of business.

The reason we are so afraid of it in the creative industry is because we usually have zero business training and it's like asking a banker to draw a picture of Batman. Totally outside of the comfort zone. We are artists and crafts people. We make a living out of what we do but it's an abstract from the process. Kickstarter is proof of why most creatives should not be allowed within 100ft of a budget. I would never back a project without someone with a solid business background. You need a producer to handle that stuff, it's a whole other skill set and just as valuable as the artist.

Lono Shrugged:
I do free lancing and my only worry is that the client will see through my carefully crafted professional invoice and realise I am a hack fraud who understands nothing of business.

That's so me. Okay, I do sorta know what I'm doing, but there's always that chance that someone decides I don't deserve the money I worked for. Nearly had that happen once. Scary stuff. I do not like confrontations! ;_;

NPC009:

Lono Shrugged:
I do free lancing and my only worry is that the client will see through my carefully crafted professional invoice and realise I am a hack fraud who understands nothing of business.

That's so me. Okay, I do sorta know what I'm doing, but there's always that chance that someone decides I don't deserve the money I worked for. Nearly had that happen once. Scary stuff. I do not like confrontations! ;_;

People will always play hardball when it gets to the cash side. I learned to stand my ground on it and I have walked off projects over money, gotten angry calls from people calling "on behalf of" been threatened with lawsuits and cursed out among having people confront me in public. (The creative field does attract a lot of crazy people. That said I have also more often than not got what I invoiced because that's the cost of the job and it's a case of if you don't value your work, then no one will. Took me years to learn and I still make mistakes. I used to feel sick after confrontations, now that I have the confidence in my work I will almost always talk and client down, convince them they are getting a deal and gotten repeat business. It's the right blend of addressing valid concerns and having a stiff neck.

No matter how simple, dealing with bureaucracy will never stop being terrible. Don't even get me started on taxes. I have to do them for two countries now goddammit.

Signa:
Damn, I thought this was going to be about Freelancer.

Vendor-Lazarus:

Signa:
Damn, I thought this was going to be about Freelancer.

You and me pal, You. And. Me.

(I miss you Freelancer, it's not the same without you, please come back.
No, I don't love Star Citizen, only You. Only You.)

Too much?

If it's any consolation, Elite: Dangerous came out last month, so there's that.

Easy solution: Work for free!!!

I can relate. I've been freelancing for a while now, and it's definitely better than a a tedious 9-to-5 cubicle bullshit but it has its downsides

That expression in the last panel is phenomenal

I'd have that on a poster.

I hate invoicing.

That last panel is probably my favourite image I've ever seen from this webcomic.
I have no idea why.

The Rogue Wolf:
It's paperwork, and nobody likes paperwork. I think we have an ingraned preference for the ol' "punch the timecard, get the paycheck" routine.

Scars Unseen:
This is like me and taxes. I use an online site and it takes - at most - 2 hours. I get paid so little for my job that the government pays me thousands of dollars each year in apology. Still, I'll find every excuse I can why tomorrow would be a better day than tonight to file my taxes.

Not me, buddy. I need that cash! You'll find me filing first day.

As a contractor, that pretty much describes the extent of my dealing with bureaucracy. I log in to my contingent agency's website, pick my assignment, enter my hours for the day, save, rinse and repeat. Then I send it to my manager for approval, and that's sent back to the agency for my weekly paycheck. The shitload of forms I had to do was all before my first day of work.

I started my own business recently, and funnily enough the worst thing about invoicing is working out how much to charge someone (especially since I'm in IT maintenance, and most of my jobs so far have been mostly sitting around waiting for the computer to finish things [virus scans, program installs, etc])

Fr33Lanc3r.007:
I started my own business recently, and funnily enough the worst thing about invoicing is working out how much to charge someone (especially since I'm in IT maintenance, and most of my jobs so far have been mostly sitting around waiting for the computer to finish things [virus scans, program installs, etc])

Someone is buying your presence in exchange for your time and expertise. Just prorate them based on your hourly and minutes. It's not a matter of morals when it comes to waiting around. Even car mechanics have to do that until some car part gets shipped to them! It's that you KNOW what to do when the scan is complete, not that you were waiting for it. Someone wants to bitch after the fact about prices? That's where you learn de-escalation, the bane of customer service.

Also, what's up my fellow IT mule?

Oh yeah, great comic too, I guess. We love Erin yadayada-lip-service-token-compliments ¬_¬ Naw just kidding I love you guys :D

Invoicing is such a pain in the arse.

Stupid self-employed tax status.

Have to do my own taxes, like a chump.

How many kids do I have? There's no time to count, I'll just estimate!

 

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