Escape to the Movies: Blackhat - Haxxor

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tyriless:
Bob, glad to see call the harassment of female developers and critics of Gamergate exactly what it is. It's terrorism

Aaaand that's when your comment becomes utter rubbish. You need a serious reality check if you think online harassment is a form of terrorism. You do know it's possible to ignore online abuse and such? Because that's what the vast majority of us do when we are a target of it. The victims of the Charlie Hebdo attacks last week didn't have that luxury, because that was a real terrorist attack.

OT: Really pushing the SJW vibe in this video, Bob.

Amaror:

Scow2:
If you think 'doxxing' and harrassment are the 'real' terrors of the net, you don't know ANYTHING about what a real threat on the net is.

It's like saying the real horror of war is the possibility having to wear one set of underwear for a month.

Yeah that section of the video was just stupid. I get that MovieBob really hates 8chan, but he cannot seriously think that false phone calls and a few angry post on a forum somewhere are as far as cyberterrorism could possibly go for anyone.

In the United States, cops killed more than 1,000 people last year alone. 40% of them were unarmed. If you don't think Swatting is attempted murder by cop, well... I don't think I need to finish that sentence.

An Ceannaire:

tyriless:
Bob, glad to see call the harassment of female developers and critics of Gamergate exactly what it is. It's terrorism

Aaaand that's when your comment becomes utter rubbish. You need a serious reality check if you think online harassment is a form of terrorism.

Really? It is textbook terrorism. "Stop saying things we don't like, or we will put you in harms way by sending armed cops to your house."

How is that not terrorism?

Omnicide:
"If the Oscars were any whiter, they'd be transparent."

So, wait. We're supposed to judge them on their skin color first, and then apparent talent second?

Apparently that's what happened, because Selma was nearly shutout.

C.S.Strowbridge:

Really? It is textbook terrorism. "Stop saying things we don't like, or we will put you in harms way by sending armed cops to your house."

How is that not terrorism?

Swatting is a stupid and irresponsible thing to do, but provided the cops do their job properly, no harm should come of it. So no, it's not terrorism. I can't believe I actually have to say this. It's disgusting how wrapped up in your own little world you people are.

I kind of like HACKERS. It has its own earnest charm that it wears on its sleeve and flaunts its 90s style. Yet I find Swordfish almost unwatchable. But because I am a Computer Engineer, I get sick of people thinking I can do what movies and TV show think that's what my job is. And despite what Bob thinks of the hacking, real life Info Security people say it's the most accurate they've seen in any movie. Like in this WIRED article:
http://www.wired.com/2015/01/blackhat-the-best-cyber-movie/?mbid=social_fb

And Bob mentioned Undergrads! I loved that show! I found it late on Sunday nights/Monday mornings on Comedy Central, back in my freshman year of college. SO many great moments and jokes.

Grabehn:
China? Again? I get that they give money/support to promote their country and all that, but every time I see one of those overextended landscape thing that pretty much yell "LOOK LOOK CHINA, LOOK AT IT, THEY GAVE US MONEY LOOK AT IT" they become more and more annoying.

Couldn't agree with you more. It's paid pandering, and it's becoming annoyingly commonplace. I don't mind it when it's subtle and gels with the movie, because plenty of countries do that. But China doesn't really do subtlety.

So its another "Fuck you, its January" film, then? Didn't expect much, but was hoping that there'd be competent action throughout the film, but from the sounds of it, that only shows up towards the end.

Also, in regards to the what Bob posits as the real danger of the net, he's right. I mean, you're more likely to die in a plane crash due to mechanical failure than plane crash due to a hijacking. Terrorism is, well, terrifying, but the odds of being on the brunt end of a significant attack is absolutely miniscule. IIRC, you're more likely to starve to death. Getting doxxed and swatted is both more likely to happen, but it is also taken less seriously by the internet community at large. Its all fun and games until a bullet ruins somebody's face on a live TwitchTV stream. Just like when Anonymous wanted to fuck with some traffic lights for the lols, and thought it was great until their tampering resulted with a fatal car accident, then they just swore off all responsibility for their actions. Simply, assholes being assholes is more likely to disrupt or harm your life than some lunatic in a terrorist organization.

marioandsonic:
A mentioning of 8Chan and a Gamergate reference.

Bob, are you trying to poke the hornet's nest again?

If this is poking the hornet's nest, then his twitter feed could be best described as Bob ripping his shirt off and shouting "Come at me, bees!"

An Ceannaire:
Swatting is a stupid and irresponsible thing to do, but provided the cops do their job properly, no harm should come of it. So no, it's not terrorism. I can't believe I actually have to say this. It's disgusting how wrapped up in your own little world you people are.

If cops are doing their job when they're told that somebody is suicidal, making bombs, and is armed, they'll shoot the moment that they think you're going to put up any form of conflict, because bombs fuck shit up, and they'd rather shoot an unarmed person than let a bomb detonate.

You've obvious never had to face the other end of a gun barrel before, so good for you and your privileged life, but that doesn't mean that you get to pretend that sicking heavily armed people on others, with the preface that the other person may be injured, isn't serious. Contrary to what you say, its disgusting how much little value you have for the lives of others.

MarsAtlas:

You've obvious never had to face the other end of a gun barrel before, so good for you and your privileged life, but that doesn't mean that you get to pretend that sicking heavily armed people on others, with the preface that the other person may be injured, isn't serious. Contrary to what you say, its disgusting how much little value you have for the lives of others.

Oh please. Don't waste my time with your talk of "privilege" and social justice wankery. The only privilege I have is living in a country where the amount of citizens killed by the police per year is often zero.

I bet the Rock Rock will Rock.

Haven't seen, had no interest in. I just had to point out the best part of going to see Dracula Untold (I think that's what that movie was called) was having this trailer pop up in it and listening to the agonized moans coming from our 'friend' who actually calls herself a white hat hacker. It was fantastic.

Yeah, when I saw the trailer for this and it said "directed by Michael Mann" I was pretty shocked, because I don't think I've ever looked at the trailer for one of his movies and said "wow this looks dumb as hell".

I'm starting to believe that Bob suffers from some sort of rare condition that if he doesn't find a way to insert some sort of social justice hoopla into his speech at least every 5 minutes, he suffers an aneurysm and dies. It's seriously the only conclusion I can come to for his never-ending need to add it to EVERY video, no matter how unrelated or dumb the movie or subject matter is.

Wow, I'm sure I'm going to love this even more now that Bob hates it, I loved both Hackers and The Net (even Johnny Mnemonic), cheesy hacker movies (like Antitrust) ftw. If it's like those, then I'm game.

Just to dip back in, I'm going to have to watch this at some point but the hacking stuff is getting pretty good reviews for authenticity. I wouldn't know yet but if it involves any scenes where people walk in, drop a USB stick and wait for someone to plug it in, or say they're Terry from Dell and just straight up wheel the server out the front door then that's how it actually gets done a lot of times.

If anyone wants realistic computer thrillers then I recommend reading The Cuckoo's Egg

Terrorism is defined as the use of violence or the threat of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
Here is the FBI's definition of it
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
"Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

One of many posts on /baphomet/ from infinitechan, took 3 minutes to find on the first page.
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Al right guys, it's time. Sometime soon(i personally sayt valentines day) we raid tumblr. I have no idea how exactly(i think the theme should be 'gore2thecore'), but it needs to be a ddos as well. We've been putting up with their shit for too long, maybe this time we can get a few to actually kill themselves.

This time, we're out for blood. We won't stop until someone hangs themselves on tumblr.
Maybe he's being dramatic, but he is talking about harrassing users on a website that is host of anti-gamergate material and memes and posting shocking images at the very least, and encouraging an attack on the site for hosting material he disagrees with.
*****
If you don't like being called a terrorist, then you shouldn't engage in that activity or support those that pursue it. Just as someone who steals gets called a thief.

Not convinced, here is another post claiming to reveal personal information. Notice the responses giving instructions on how he can better handle the information.
*********
So /baphomet/, I know you like raids. Now, I have some dox on a SJW. I have her address, first and last name, parents phone numbers, and her Steam, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, and Instagram account names. I'm currently working on getting her phone number. She's a transgender, so she prefers to be referred to as male. She constantly makes fun of straight white cis males and spread lies about my friend just because he was one. Are you guys interested?
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 00:40:02 No.22049>>22066
>>22043 (OP)
Just post the fuckin' dox in the dox dump thread, it may or may not happen in the future; we've busy with retaliation at the moment.

And rule 2 faggot; when in doubt always raid. Why would we not want her dox?

Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 00:46:55 No.22066>>22078
>>22049
Care to direct this retard to the dox dump thread?

Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 00:53:23 No.22078
>>22066
Certainly.

>>12839

Burnouts3s3:
I never saw either Hackers or the Net.

Maybe I should pick those up and see what they look like today.

Hackers is at least amusingly bad at times.

The Net isn't worth watching at all.

WWE Immortals just looks ridiculous. The Rock as a living rock is one thing, but then you add to that the military-backed superhero John Cena, the hellish MMA monster Brock Lesnar, the Big Show showing up dressed as a 7' tall, 500 lb lumberjack, and Daniel Bryan the living goat. And all of it running as both a Mortal Kombat reskin and a collectable card game.

tyriless:
Terrorism is defined as the use of violence or the threat of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.
Here is the FBI's definition of it
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
"Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

One of many posts on /baphomet/ from infinitechan, took 3 minutes to find on the first page.
****
Al right guys, it's time. Sometime soon(i personally sayt valentines day) we raid tumblr. I have no idea how exactly(i think the theme should be 'gore2thecore'), but it needs to be a ddos as well. We've been putting up with their shit for too long, maybe this time we can get a few to actually kill themselves.

This time, we're out for blood. We won't stop until someone hangs themselves on tumblr.
Maybe he's being dramatic, but he is talking about harrassing users on a website that is host of anti-gamergate material and memes and posting shocking images at the very least, and encouraging an attack on the site for hosting material he disagrees with.
*****
If you don't like being called a terrorist, then you shouldn't engage in that activity or support those that pursue it. Just as someone who steals gets called a thief.

Not convinced, here is another post claiming to reveal personal information. Notice the responses giving instructions on how he can better handle the information.
*********
So /baphomet/, I know you like raids. Now, I have some dox on a SJW. I have her address, first and last name, parents phone numbers, and her Steam, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, and Instagram account names. I'm currently working on getting her phone number. She's a transgender, so she prefers to be referred to as male. She constantly makes fun of straight white cis males and spread lies about my friend just because he was one. Are you guys interested?
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 00:40:02 No.22049>>22066
>>22043 (OP)
Just post the fuckin' dox in the dox dump thread, it may or may not happen in the future; we've busy with retaliation at the moment.

And rule 2 faggot; when in doubt always raid. Why would we not want her dox?

Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 00:46:55 No.22066>>22078
>>22049
Care to direct this retard to the dox dump thread?

Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 00:53:23 No.22078
>>22066
Certainly.

>>12839

/baph/ doesn't support gg, they do everything they do simply for the "lulz." they've already doxxed plenty of gg'ers
and don't come touting that bullshit, tired rhetoric that gg is all about harassing women. i have seen numerous gg'ers speak out against the harassment that people are carrying out on anti-gg'ers. pretty much every major figure in support of gg is very much against harassing others. i guarantee that the majority of harassers claiming to be with gg are unimportant individuals who made accounts simply to harass and make gg look bad. i haven't seen many efforts by the major figures against gg to speak out against harassment that people from their side of the debate are carrying out.

i just checked /baph/ and the first thread i saw was mocking gg. /baph/ is its own entity, stop treating it like it's even remotely representative of gg.

Yeah, man. Looking at 8chan just burns me up too, those disgusting examples of human shit. If only there was some way I could avoid it.

Anyways, not sure I could handle a movie like this without cringing to death, so...likely not one I'm ever gonna see.

For that whole other argument going on that has nothing to do with the movie, acts of swatting definitely have the potential to be extremely dangerous or even fatal, and I would call them a form of terrorism. Other online threats should be reported to proper authorities. Publicizing them to use as fuel against a movement you don't like is not alright (simply publicizing them, however, is rather more alright, though I'm not exactly sure how much I'd personally recommend it). Especially in cases where the threat didn't even mention anything about the movement in the first place.

All of this goes both ways for me.

The thing that always bothers me about hackers is that they shouldn't be building their algorithms right before using them. They should just have a program on a USB drive, plug it in, and wait for stuff to happen. Having someone actively 'hacking into' something is like having a robber go to a house and begin crafting lockpicks out of the Welcome mat.

The fact that this specific hacker is also an action hero is another problem I have with these kinds of movies, in which a specialist in one field is always a specialist in another field. You can't have brains and brawn at the same time, that's not how life works.

Is it strange that the only thing about this movie that stuck out to me was the fact that Hemsworth's character is distractingly good looking? I mean, like Bob pointed out, someone who has devoted their life to mastering computer systems and learning the ins and outs of coding is probably more likely to be... shall we say, a little lower on the sexual attraction ladder?

"Doxxing and harrassment are the real dangers of the net."

This episode had me in stitches. My eyes started tearing up from laughing so hard. The absurdity of the things Bob was saying, the comparisons he was making, the ignorant stereotyping, and the thinly-veiled bigotry were knee-slappingly, hypocritically hilarious. Especially in light of his usual (unwarranted) sanctimonious, holier-than-thou attitude.

Then I looked at the comments section....

I won't need to laugh for a month.

Anyway, I don't know. I might need to see this film just for the hell of it. Mann's a good director, but even the best are bound to have a few missteps. Even so, sometimes it's good to see those missteps so one can better appreciate the hits.

MovieBob:
Blackhat - Haxxor

Almost as bad as the hacker craze of films from a few years back.

Watch Video

Really Bob, you bring up "Hackers" and "The Net" but leave out the performance of a lifetime provided to us by the one and only Harrison Ford in "Firewall"? And I thought I knew you....

Soooo... Sneakers still remains the best film about hacking?

And now i'm off to watch The Last of the Mohican's

Aiddon:
ouch, not one of Mann's best. Whatever, I can take a blemish or two. Still need to watch Mohicans

you better be 18 because there's no excuse not have watched that film >:(

Soooo not only is it a crap movie, but I've got a suspicion that it's the Blackhat ad in the bottom right that's screwing with some people's text boxes/ability to quote other members (since past experience has shown that it's ads in the bottom right that have a tendency of screwing with text boxes).

Just another reason this movie sucks. :P

Man, Bob can't go 5 minutes without bringing up sexism and racism. Everyone should be glad he is here to remind us that since the Oscars nominations are mostly white, we are all a bunch of racists. Thanks Bob, I don't know if I could go the day without feeling a decent amount of white guilt. ;p

I wasn't expecting too much from this movie. I don't know why the physical condition of the main character is an issue though. I have to be honest, the whole hackers are fat slobs who are socially inept is literally an idea that is more and more commonly wrong as technology becomes more and more the a part of everyday life. I know America has a history of weight issues, especially in the last 20 years, but smart people tend to also take physical care of themselves. I work in IT, but I go to the gym 5 days a week and eat really healthy. I'm not the norm, but I work with plenty of people who care about themselves physically. To me,it's not a big stretch that he may just give a shit about his health.

That is my one qualm. I'm sure the movie isn't that great. I feel like this almost sounds like Live Free or Die Hard but in the badass is the same character as the hacker, rather than what amounts to essentially being the escort for the physically ill equipped hacker.

Bob, either you have a screwed up perspective or you are incredibly naive.

The economic damage from cybercrime is nearly half a trillion a year ... and if that's a bit too abstract for you, that includes data ransoming which hits a huge number of average people. As obnoxious as /gg/ gets, it hits a tiny number of people. The damage is just a few too many orders of magnitude removed from the human and monetary damage caused by cybercrime to make it the ultimate examples of the terror of hacking.

V4Viewtiful:

Aiddon:
ouch, not one of Mann's best. Whatever, I can take a blemish or two. Still need to watch Mohicans

you better be 18 because there's no excuse not have watched that film >:(

Count me in. That movie gives me chills. The final mountainside scene is what movie making should strive to be.

Oh boy, more GG and 8chan jabs. Honestly, my guess is that (a) Bob knows jackshit about GG and (b) Bob has never been on 8chan. If he had, he'd know that 8chan's climate varies radically board by board, and making a generalization like "8chan, eugh" is immature and stupid.

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