The Walking Dead: Darkest Before The Dawn (of the Dead)

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So I'm guessing that opening was flashbacks was of people and places that didn't make it?

We're off to a usual start.

TV Tyreese used to be way too optimistic for my taste, but I'm kinda liking him now compared to the pessimism of.... well, everyone.

Mind you, it seems like all the other characters are getting sick of pessimism too.

Awwwwwwwww shit no. Well that just figures.

Will keep these comments spoiler free for now, but ugh.

Fanghawk:
TV Tyreese used to be way too optimistic for my taste, but I'm kinda liking him now compared to the pessimism of.... well, everyone.

Mind you, it seems like all the other characters are getting sick of pessimism too.

And then the bite...

Is the Walking Dead Curse gonna play out once again?

Well that was way better than getting phone calls from the "afterlife". Probably something that can't happen that often too, so it's nice to do it right this time.

Vigormortis:

Fanghawk:
TV Tyreese used to be way too optimistic for my taste, but I'm kinda liking him now compared to the pessimism of.... well, everyone.

Mind you, it seems like all the other characters are getting sick of pessimism too.

And then the bite...

Is the Walking Dead Curse gonna play out once again?

I'm hoping we can chop something off first. I'm almost praying we can. Depends on how much time is going by....

And Michonne steps up to be the voice of optimism. Also not in keeping with the comic, but it works much better here.

Also, absolutely loving these zombie effects and kills. AMC has this down to an art.

Fanghawk:

I'm hoping we can chop something off first. I'm almost praying we can. Depends on how much time is going by....

We'll find out soon enough.

I'm dubious that he'll survive, given how protracted these 'hallucinations' are.

Hoping he does, though.

Fanghawk:
And Michonne steps up to be the voice of optimism. Also not in keeping with the comic, but it works much better here.

Also, absolutely loving these zombie effects and kills. AMC has this down to an art.

Agreed.

Well, I guess we know what bill he had to pay now. Getting the feeling this means we won't lose [x] but we'll see.

Slo mo shot for the win.

Hahaha. Oh wow. The contents of that truck...

XD

:(

But let's back up.... what's with all those bodies in the truck?

Vigormortis:
Hahaha. Oh wow. The contents of that truck...

XD

Yeah, that was kinda out of no where.

Let's have WD's credits run like that more often. Ouch, right in the feels.

Pretty sure they were the, uh....'other halves' from what they found outside the neighborhood. Perhaps some loon likes to collect them?

I dunno. I feel like I may have missed a clue or some small detail.

Vigormortis:
Pretty sure they were the, uh....'other halves' from what they found outside the neighborhood. Perhaps some loon likes to collect them?

I dunno. I feel like I may have missed a clue or some small detail.

I'm wondering if they were some kind of torture/execution device? Just open up the back and drop them on people, or chuck them in, and either way it's a totally safe way to feed someone to zombies.

Or maybe somebody was just super crazy. That's an option too.

Thunderous Cacophony:

I'm wondering if they were some kind of torture/execution device? Just open up the back and drop them on people, or chuck them in, and either way it's a totally safe way to feed someone to zombies.

Or maybe somebody was just super crazy. That's an option too.

Given the propensity for this series antagonists to be complete nutters, I'm gonna go with the latter option.

Fanghawk:
Let's have WD's credits run like that more often. Ouch, right in the feels.

I'm all for that. Very well done on the show's part.

So this episode left me a little heartbroken. They were the only person in the group keeping them from being a roaming mob of remorseless serial killers, especially so after last episode, leaving a lot of questions about the direction of the show in the wake of it all. I'd probably be less worried if the show's writing wasn't so goddamn contrived at times. I mean, basically everything bad that happened in Season 4 could've been averted by anybody who received a basic elementary school education behaving proactively, but I was willing to overlook it since the characters were at least changing in some way or another.

Also, is anybody else surprised that Karen didn't make an appearance? That was a huge opportunity wasted. I mean, she wasn't a significant character overall, but her role in the story was pivotal, as well as her obvious significance toward them, so it seems like a waste to not bring her back.

Fanghawk:
Let's have WD's credits run like that more often. Ouch, right in the feels.

I must've missed it, what happened in them?

MarsAtlas:

Fanghawk:
Let's have WD's credits run like that more often. Ouch, right in the feels.

I must've missed it, what happened in them?

No music. Just the sound of digging.

Fanghawk:

MarsAtlas:

Fanghawk:
Let's have WD's credits run like that more often. Ouch, right in the feels.

I must've missed it, what happened in them?

No music. Just the sound of digging.

Ah, I didn't get that on my end. They always cut away from that to do promos for something else, in this instance, it was for Better Call Saul. I can see that working to great effect, however, its not like its the first time that a show has used a break from convention to hammer a point home, eg South Park's surprisingly good and genuinely heartfelt take on body image in their episode The Hobbit (wish they did more episodes like that)

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That was particularly painful.

A main character dies quick and suddenly, and we break the season. We come back for the second half, and another main character dies a slow drawn out death over the course of the episode. Both were the primary voices of optimism among the survivours.
Wow. Just- Okay... Okay.

The Hungry Samurai:

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I think the important things to look forward to are the W and Wolves hints. I'm thinking a wandering marauder type group. Wolves not far may have been a warning made by one of the victims-or even worse, a type of goading from this group. The fact that the torsos were piled up in that truck can probably be construed as malicious as well. Everyone scavenges at this point-and a truck would be a good opportunity for stashed items.Setting up a trap of biting torsos-all with a W signature (and I believe I didn't see any with lips, though that could have been natural decomposition instead of further mutilation), puts their "stamp" as well as possibly taking out a bit of competition.

Once again, the black character quota has been filled (Noah in, Tyreese out). Seriously, it's a tread in this series.

In saying so it suck that he was killed off right after Beth and danm I thought he lived longer too especially in the comic (I was wrong about that).

Also did Michonne katana break and what's up with that truck filled with heads (yes I know it's some psycho do did it but still)?

Scarim Coral:
Once again, the black character quota has been filled (Noah in, Tyreese out). Seriously, it's a tread in this series.

In saying so it suck that he was killed off right after Beth and danm I thought he lived longer too especially in the comic (I was wrong about that).

Also did Michonne katana break and what's up with that truck filled with heads (yes I know it's some psycho do did it but still)?

Michonne's katana didn't break, but the zombie she was trying to kill had a metal rivet stuck in its neck so it couldn't be decapitated.

The Hungry Samurai:

I think Tyreese died because he chose to die. That seemed to be what the whole episode was about.

Fanghawk:

Michonne's katana didn't break, but the zombie she was trying to kill had a metal rivet stuck in its neck so it couldn't be decapitated.

I thought it was a bit of clever gore effects when Rick yanked that piece of rebar out of the walker's back and used it to smash it's skull. It felt humorously cathartic.

Also:
Is it just me, or does it seems like they've finally nailed how to do the shows cinematography right? Some of the shots this episode (and, indeed, even in the season's first half) were fantastic.

I was even impressed with some of the preview shots for the next episode. I particularly liked the over-the-shoulder shot of the wolves facing down Rick and crew. It was but a split-second, yet it felt tense.

darthdenim:

I think Tyreese died because he chose to die. That seemed to be what the whole episode was about.

That's what the episode was about, primarily. Tyreese coming to terms with who he really was, who he wanted to be, and accepting what the world has become while still realizing even a single life is valuable.

And, more over, I'm partly convinced he let the kid walker bite him. Even as the primary ever-optimistic member of the group, even he was giving in to hopelessness.

All in all, though, a fantastic episode. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season.

I'm thinking i watched a different ep from everyone else. Worst episode ever in my opinion. :/

Darth Sea Bass:
I'm thinking i watched a different ep from everyone else. Worst episode ever in my opinion. :/

Nah man, you n me watched the same episode. This episode was absolute garbage.

Weak writing all round. Tyrese death is patheticly handled. Cliched dead people showing up for chats intersperesd with shots of fading daylight. Everybody hates Chris kills the baby zombie with a fucking model airplane to the skull??! are these people fucking serious?

To me it looked like AMC engaged in an outreach program with 1st year students at a local film school. I havn't been this disgusted with lazy writing/plot devices since Loris retarded car crash.

All in all it seemed to me to be a "lets kill the black guy cos we have too many and we will pack it with as many tacky and forced feels as we can" episode

Aboslute shite. Next week better be one hell of a lot better or I think I might be done with this show. No way am i going back to watching season 2 levels of shitty,lazy writing

I appreciated what they were trying to do, but the main theme that came across to me was how much the characters are echoing the spirit of the show in that they are both getting very tired.

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