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As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

When FF7 was made, the company was simply Squaresoft. Back then their games were almost always really good. Ever since the merger with Enix, they haven't been nearly as good anymore.

The reaction is that the current square-enix will completely ruin the game.

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

As far as i can work out, its a general consensus among FF fans that the series was better before the Square/Enix merger.

Even so, i dont see whats up with theese reactions. They have the script pre-written, and lord knows Squeenix loves its excessive HD pixie dust. Seems like as good a match as any.

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

The merger happened shortly after Final Fantasy 10 was released which was regarded as the last good game in the series. FF11 is an MMO, 12 underperformed, the less said about 13 the better, etc. The idea is squaresoft can make a good Final Fantasy game, square enix however, can't.

I should be the first to admit, it took a little longer than usual to get this. Silly brain! Stop doing all those anti-brain activities!
So FFVII is really that good then? I never experienced it, so the nostalgia isn't there. Only more modern angsty teen games are what I know. Is 7 like,that?

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

Well, FF7 is quite good and a lot of people remember it fondly.
After the companies Square and Enix merged they drove Final Fantasy into the massive hole it is in now.
And now that company decides to drive the massive bus that FF7 is again and nobody knows if their driving licence is still valid

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

I think the joke is that the company Squaresoft who made FF7 back in the day and the company Square-Enix as it stands today are very different. So the reaction is "yay, the games being remade! All my childhood nostalgia and joy!" and then the realisation "wait a minute, weren't they the guys who also made FF13, FF13-2, FF13 bloody 3 and messed up FF14 the first time they tried it? Ah shit! All my childhood nostalgia and joy!"

LordLundar:

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

The merger happened shortly after Final Fantasy 10 was released which was regarded as the last good game in the series. FF11 is an MMO, 12 underperformed, the less said about 13 the better, etc. The idea is squaresoft can make a good Final Fantasy game, square enix however, can't.

Don't forget Sakaguchi, the creator of the series and Nobuo Uematsu, the musical director for almost every Final Fantasy both left to form Mistwalker Studios and produce games like Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, both of which play more like traditional FF games.
I personally feel Lost Odyssey is the last great Final Fantasy, just with a different name.

Xsjadoblayde:
I should be the first to admit, it took a little longer than usual to get this. Silly brain! Stop doing all those anti-brain activities!
So FFVII is really that good then? I never experienced it, so the nostalgia isn't there. Only more modern angsty teen games are what I know. Is 7 like,that?

Too an extent, the main character has sorta (unfairly imo) become the poster child for angsty emo protagonist. In the game, Cloud (protagonist) has the tendency to brood but is able to crack wise at times, after some of the spin-off/sequel material came out he sorta defaulted to the angst ridden emo image.

I don't get the second half of this strip. The only reactions I've seen are everyone going nuts in celebration. ...except for mine which is a very sarcastic "whoopty shit."

Imperioratorex Caprae:

LordLundar:

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

The merger happened shortly after Final Fantasy 10 was released which was regarded as the last good game in the series. FF11 is an MMO, 12 underperformed, the less said about 13 the better, etc. The idea is squaresoft can make a good Final Fantasy game, square enix however, can't.

Don't forget Sakaguchi, the creator of the series and Nobuo Uematsu, the musical director for almost every Final Fantasy both left to form Mistwalker Studios and produce games like Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, both of which play more like traditional FF games.
I personally feel Lost Odyssey is the last great Final Fantasy, just with a different name.

I have not playe Blue Dragon however I could not agree more in regards to Lost Odyssey. I loved near everything (the kids got on my nerves a bit) about that game. Along with Valkyira Chronicals it was my favorite jrpg of the last gen and far better than anything Square Enix has ever put out.

OT:
I am not going to lie, this is esactly what happened to me. I was super excited for about 5 mins before I remembered that the Square that made 7 is dead and all we have is Square Enix.

gigastar:

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

As far as i can work out, its a general consensus among FF fans that the series was better before the Square/Enix merger.

Even so, i dont see whats up with theese reactions. They have the script pre-written, and lord knows Squeenix loves its excessive HD pixie dust. Seems like as good a match as any.

Can't speak for others of cause but I don't trust SE not to change things.

gigastar:
They have the script pre-written

And retconned to death in all the rest of the compilation, in Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core. It seems incredibly unlikely that they'll stick to the original script; the best we can hope for is that the changes they make are good instead of stupid.

P.S. Thanks.

P.P.S. If they replace the new combat with something that isn't turn-based, I'ma flip my lid.

its the end of the world as we know it and i still like ff even the after merger ones

Rylee Fox:

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

When FF7 was made, the company was simply Squaresoft. Back then their games were almost always really good. Ever since the merger with Enix, they haven't been nearly as good anymore.

The reaction is that the current square-enix will completely ruin the game.

Interesting. I never knew that. That finally explains the extreme change in style and quality after 7. I'd always thought the overwhelmingly positive response to 7 simply changed what Square thought their customers wanted.

I'd question whether Enix is to blame for the general downfall of final fantasy, given the Western (Enix) side of the company has released numerous well received games since the merger, whereas the Eastern (Square) side has shat the bed numerous time and basically relied on the West to keep afloat.
As for who's to blame re. the direction FF has taken, look to the games director(s) and their upper management.

That said, I have almost no faith that fans of the old game (who have been put off by the newer releases) will even remotely be the target audience for this new FF7.

This kind of reminds me of the Titanfall strip.

To be honest this was EXACTLY my reaction to the news. The issue is SE has only internally developed garbage since FF10 and most of the people from square soft are gone. I don't trust square enix to remake this game... They probably will end up shoving Lightning in it or some stupid crap. I can also see them trying to "innovate" the battle system by ruining what made it fun. SE is just a company that makes one bad choice after another.

That does kinda leave the question about the gameplay, now that I think about it.
While the turn based combat was solid, It's pretty basic compared to what kinda stuff we have now.

They will either change nothing or they'll try to update it, can't figure out which one might be worse.

canadamus_prime:
I don't get the second half of this strip. The only reactions I've seen are everyone going nuts in celebration. ...except for mine which is a very sarcastic "whoopty shit."

Basically, Erin just realized that Square Enix is remaking FF7 and how that might be a bad thing.

Personally though, considering the amount of shareholders in the world that like to make money and Sony most likely chipping in like they did for SF5, I think that would be enough to keep them on the leash.

I don't know. The remakes of FF III and FF IV for the Nintendo DS were pretty descent.

The scale on those cupboards and sink is amaaaaazing.

Man, it's kinda dicey...
It always really bothered me that Dragon Quest VIII and IX were really, really good. It feels like the Enix merger worked just swimmingly for DQ but FF's been getting the short end of the stick for a good while now.

Not looking forward to endless amounts of "Oh look, Genesis is around, Banora White's, references to Dirge of Cerberus"
I mean I even LIKED Crisis Core (kinda ruined the point of Zack's sacrifice when he obliterates an army, even if that sequence with the whole roulette thing was pretty awesome during it) and I'm dreading what they're going to try and sneak in from their bad fan fiction.

It could be good. It definitely COULD be.

... probly won't be >.>

The only solace is that it'll be quite hard to actually fuck up so it should at worst be passable unless they really try their hardest to make it suck.

Just remember.

To be honest, I have mixed feelings about this remake. Don't get me wrong, I like FF7, but I feel it's more than a little over-rated by now. That, and I hope they keep the same script (albeit translated better), and don't turn Cloud into a complete moping emo. Seriously, that only came about because fangirls wanted him to be or something. Thanks fucking heaps for that, by the way fandom. >.<

Weird... I had the reverse reaction when I heard that Kingdom Hearts III was going to be on both the PS4 and Xbox One...

Other than that, Squeenix only has one job in this situation... and in the words of RuPaul, don't fuck it up!

At least its not Konami doing it.

Diablo1099:
That does kinda leave the question about the gameplay, now that I think about it.
While the turn based combat was solid, It's pretty basic compared to what kinda stuff we have now.

They will either change nothing or they'll try to update it, can't figure out which one might be worse.

Me too. I'd like an action RPG style that would make enemies as difficult as say, third person WRPGs, but then I'd assume we'd only be able to play Cloud. They could always update the ATB system as well.

I'm sure we could have a whole thread of what we'd want kept in/left out/changed for the game. And maybe get input from those who never played the game but might want to get the remake.

I wonder if it might be the voice acting that has some people concerned. Yeah FF7 didn't have it, but now it will. And now there is a very real chance that Cloud could sound like that annoying kid from the recent games.

canadamus_prime:
I don't get the second half of this strip. The only reactions I've seen are everyone going nuts in celebration. ...except for mine which is a very sarcastic "whoopty shit."

Eh, that's roughly my reaction as well, specifically:

Ugh. Let me point this out. FF7 is a decent JRPG but that's as far as I'll give it. It's popularity is that it was the first game in the series to be mass marketed, nothing else. The characters are cardboard, the pacing is like a yo-yo and the mechanics are simply a slightly different approach to what has been twice before in the series. And that doesn't even begin to mention the bugs, glitches and exploits that are rampant in the unfinished title. I honestly doubt that anyone praising it like the second coming of Christ has either a)played any other JRPG or b) has actually played it through recently and seen just how badly it's aged and not just in terms of graphics.

Yeah, this comic sums up my response.

My primary concern is what the dubs will sound like...or if I can just be a nerd and turn on japanese audio... >.>

At least Squeenix can never destroy Braver Fencer Musashi.

Goddamn it.

LordLundar:

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

The merger happened shortly after Final Fantasy 10 was released which was regarded as the last good game in the series. FF11 is an MMO, 12 underperformed, the less said about 13 the better, etc. The idea is squaresoft can make a good Final Fantasy game, square enix however, can't.

How was 12. From what I have seen of it I am intrigued

Joshroom:

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

I think the joke is that the company Squaresoft who made FF7 back in the day and the company Square-Enix as it stands today are very different. So the reaction is "yay, the games being remade! All my childhood nostalgia and joy!" and then the realisation "wait a minute, weren't they the guys who also made FF13, FF13-2, FF13 bloody 3 and messed up FF14 the first time they tried it? Ah shit! All my childhood nostalgia and joy!"

The slide in quality started much sooner, after FFVI.

JenSeven:

Cowabungaa:
As someone who never played FF7 I don't quite get this comic. What's up with that reaction?

Well, FF7 is quite good and a lot of people remember it fondly.
After the companies Square and Enix merged they drove Final Fantasy into the massive hole it is in now.
And now that company decides to drive the massive bus that FF7 is again and nobody knows if their driving licence is still valid

Not really fair to call it a merger... It's like saying EA merged with Maxis :p
Basically when Squaresoft became big enough to buy their nearest rival they basically stopped giving a crap

Caramel Frappe:
I hope Squareenix really takes proper care of FF 7 .. can you imagine if they screw the pooch on this one?
Their reputation wouldn't recover, it's simple as that. Best of luck to them.

Not really RIght now FInal Fantasy achieved the critical mass that Star Wars and Star Trek enjoy. They announce a game and people will buy the shiny game no matter what. They slap Finbal Fantasy on anything and people will buy it.

Will they treat FF7 right... god no. Because you know there's going to be voice acting and I found cloud whiny enough without having to actually listen to him. Are you really, really looking forward to Yuffie actually speaking.

Honestly I don't play These sorts of games outside emulators ... because emulators allow me one power that is vital for Squeenix and most JRPG's a FAST FORWARD BUTTON.

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