Newsflash: Half-Life 3 Still Isn't Coming Out

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Newsflash: Half-Life 3 Still Isn't Coming Out

In a world where everyone seems hellbent on running sequels into the ground, the continued silence of the Half-Life franchise is increasingly strange.

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I think that if there is a real reason - beyond all the hoaxes, speculation and rumors - it will probably turn out to be a case of Occam's razor. The fact that, after so many years of hype, the game will never be what the majority of people want it to be: aka awesome. Look at Duke Nukem or the mediocre entry that was Broken Age (it wasn't bad per se, just dull and definitely not up to its pedigree). Valve knows that, no matter what they do, they game will never live up to its promise.

Still, I am always prepared to eat my words if it is released one of these days. But I'm not holding my breath.

This is still a thing? People still believe there's a chance Half Life 3 is coming out?!

In regards to the alleged anonymous employee cited by The Know, the first reason -- it makes so much money on Steam that HL3 development isn't a priority -- may hold some water since they really haven't done much of ANY game development recently.

But the second reason? Mass Effect 3? Really? Being afraid of backlash doesn't really seem to be a trait of Valve. If it was afraid of pissing off fans and suffering a huge backlash, it never would have required Steam for Half-Life 2.

A lot of people have pointed out that it's likely that Valve are waiting for a big new technology they are working on to be shown off with HL3. It would definitely continue the trend of how HL1 and 2 were quite heavily pushing their new technologies in the games engines.

Some people think that it's VR that Valve are pushing with HL3 but the news on that front has been silent for a few years. People also used to think it would be to push some features in Source 2 but we've just seen DOTA 2 be ported to Source 2 so HL3 isn't the premier game to show off Source 2 apparently.

In the end, I think they are waiting for the right time to make it and release it. It likely will come out someday but until then there's no use rabbiting for rumors. Especially ones by an anonymous source who claims to work at Valve but doesn't understand their management structure or the way employees there work despite both being public knowledge for years.

Regardless of Mass Effect 3, this is going to piss people off no matter how it plays out. I don't care if that's "the reason," but it's a pretty good reason to manage expectations. Of a sequel, of the sequel being good, whatever.

But I do need to know what happens to Crowbar!

A: Would the backlash really be worse than the backlash of not releasing it?

B: Would the backlash really be worse than what gets dumped on Steam for whatever policy or feature on a daily basis?

Yeah, not buying that excuse. Besides, even if it isn't the big satisfying finale everyone is hoping for, avoiding a ME3-level dissapointment is easy. Just don't completely contradict the tone and story that came before. If they just make an episode 3 with the portal gun, a bossfight with the brainslug and Gordon riding his dunebuggy into the sunset with Alyx on the backseat, it'd be boring and unoriginal but it still wouldn't be nearly as jarring as ME3.

Half-Life 3/Half-Life 2: Episode III is going to end the same way all the Half Life games end. With Gordon getting pulled out of the fire by the G Man and put back into the cupboard for the next game. We already know that, it the build up that's important. Just do it. What are you spending all these billions you're raking in from Steam on? Hats?

Thing is, Mass Effect 3 was bad all over. The combat took center stage, the side characters all had their development halted in favour of Shepard's child hallucinations and there was little emotional build up to the war against the Reapers. The ending was just the cherry on top.

Good article though. The Last Guardian isn't dead, so Half Life 3 may yet live. After all, Source 2 is on the horizon.

Maybe they just want the award for longest time in vaporware? Can we all laugh when HL3/HL2:E3 is all about Adrian Shepard and they announce that Gordon Freeman won't be back until HL4?

Exley97:
In regards to the alleged anonymous employee cited by The Know, the first reason -- it makes so much money on Steam that HL3 development isn't a priority -- may hold some water since they really haven't done much of ANY game development recently.

They released games through 2007-2013 and they are not that big between running steam and the constantly updating TF2 and Dota 2 why is having a year or two off such a problem? Rockstar games has nearly 3 times the staff over 7 locations and also haven't released a new game since 2013.

Silentpony:
This is still a thing? People still believe there's a chance Half Life 3 is coming out?!

While it can make sense to be cynical, I don't think we can rule it out. Afterall both the Last Guardian and even more bafflingly Shenmue 3 were announced (again) at E3, albeit with a kickstarter for Shenmue. And let's not forget Duke Nukem Forever (as much as we'd like to). So it's not completely outside the realms of possibility.

That said, I'm certainly not expecting it to, and won't pay any attention to rumours or talk of its release until someone high up in valve (preferably Gabe) says 'We're making it, here's some gameplay footage, here's a release date'.

On the topic of the Mass Effect 3 thing, I can sorta see that reasoning in why they'd struggle with a script for the game, simply because of one dude, G-man. The events of episode 2 flesh out his role a bit more, to the point where it really seems like they were building to some big reveal in episode 3. The problem is, though, that he's too mysterious, with seemingly god-like powers, that any answer to who he is is automatically more boring than the intrigue of what he could be. So, if I was a writer I'd worry about that, so that's my pet theory about why they'll never do it. You know, follow Homer Simpson's advice, never try, never fail.

Though, I of course think my pet-theory is dumb, the real reason being they make enough money through steam, and free-to-play Dota and TF2, that they don't really need to worry about selling their own AAA games anymore.

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In all seriousness, the only time I see Valve releasing or even talking about Half-Life 3 is if Steam stops making them giant piles of money every two seconds. That or they get really bored and actually feel like doing something other than making new hats for TF2.

I also feel it appropriate to post this video here.

Pre-E3 2013: "Oh, man! New consoles are coming out! I bet Valve is going to immediately start developing on their hardware!"
2014: "Well, the last game they made is practically 2 years old, and the consoles had their launch period, so maybe?"
2015: "The first PC Gaming event at E3? This would be a good time for Valve to convince those on the fence to ignore new consoles and go for PC!"

Valve just doesn't make games anymore.

On page 2, G-Man illustrates the chances that we will actually see Half-Life 3 in our lifetime.
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Seriously, if it ever comes out, I'll probably buy it. Actually, I'll wait for reviews, and if it's good, I'll buy it; if it's dreck, I'll wait until it's under ten bucks, and then buy it.

But I've given up any real sense of engagement with the issue. If the amount of pressure on Valve up until now to make HL3 hasn't caused it to spring into being, it's not like my sighing or griping is going to do so. And I don't have time to set up a lawn chair on Valve's campus.

Xman490:

Valve just doesn't make games anymore.

They are worse than EA, Ubisoft and Microsoft. At least those guys will actually give you the chance to play new games. All Valve do is have a monopoly over online pc gaming.

Fuck em

Yea blaming gamers is a BS reason.

They're too scared to release a game because of backlash but still trying to produce their little Steam box?

Just gonna parrot what I said in the other thread on the topic of that The Know[1] video:

"It gets worse, believe it or not. Our source tells us that Valve's management isn't invested in the game coming out at all, and have even moved developers and resources away from the project."

And that, folks, is absolute confirmation that this "news" story and it's "anonymous source" are absolute bullshit.

Valve has no set managers and any given project has it's resources allocated and dictated by those working on the project.

These "insightful" people at The Know either got trolled hard by their "source" or are too stupid or lazy to look into how Valve operates.

Nothing to see here, people. Move along.

This is why it's usually best to ignore 'news' from someone citing a source as "I know a guy".

Zachary Amaranth:

But I do need to know what happens to Crowbar!

Will he get a new coat of paint? Will he finally have all that brain matter and other assorted viscera cleaned off? Will he atone for his genocidal rampage against wooden boxes? Will he be replaced by the vastly superior knife-wrench?

I HAVE TO KNOW!!

[1] Talk about an ironic show title.

Exley97:
In regards to the alleged anonymous employee cited by The Know, the first reason -- it makes so much money on Steam that HL3 development isn't a priority -- may hold some water since they really haven't done much of ANY game development recently.

But the second reason? Mass Effect 3? Really? Being afraid of backlash doesn't really seem to be a trait of Valve. If it was afraid of pissing off fans and suffering a huge backlash, it never would have required Steam for Half-Life 2.

How much info does "The Know" really have on it? These are the same people who started that wild rumor about MS buying the rights to Silent Hills to make it an Xbox One exclusive, only for it to be refuted by Phil Spencer on Twitter. Yeah I find the Onion more believable then them.

I'd say Half-Life is always a possibility, companies change face on ocassion when it benefits them, but I really don't think Valve is interested in making a new Half-Life game unless they know they can blow away gamers with some new tech they could be working on.

Joshroom:
I think that if there is a real reason - beyond all the hoaxes, speculation and rumors - it will probably turn out to be a case of Occam's razor. The fact that, after so many years of hype, the game will never be what the majority of people want it to be: aka awesome. Look at Duke Nukem or the mediocre entry that was Broken Age (it wasn't bad per se, just dull and definitely not up to its pedigree). Valve knows that, no matter what they do, they game will never live up to its promise.

Still, I am always prepared to eat my words if it is released one of these days. But I'm not holding my breath.

Whenever people say this, it always reminds me of how TF2 spent 9 YEARS in development (which to this day is STILL a longer length of time than we've been waiting for HL3) and it still turned out awesome. I don't think HL3's going to be the best game ever if it comes out, but I trust that if Valve IS working on it, it's taken so long for a good reason, and it'll be pretty damn good when it comes out. Valve's never disappointed me with their games before. If it's at least as good as Episode 2, then it'll be fine with me. (I realize that some people have overblown expectations, but from what I've seen on forums, most HL fans would be fine with that level of quality.)

Sorry for the ramble.

Sigmund Av Volsung:
Thing is, Mass Effect 3 was bad all over.

Wildly subjective comment is wildly subjective. If you think everything about ME3 was bad (which is what "bad all over" would suggest), well, you've maybe not played many games if that's your bad-all-over benchmark...

H-L3: honestly, I don't think I can give a toss any more, regardless of the reasons for Valve's utterly bizarre treatment of the series. Then again I was personally a little disappointed with both Episodes anyway, so H-L2's legacy lost some of its lustre even when they were bothering to make content.

Either way, that cliffhanger Ep2 ending rather feels like 'fuck you' from Valve to all the fans at this point. And all I can really do is return the sentiment... See also: never sign up to Steam.

Valve is reluctant to work on the game because of the Mass Effect 3 controversy. They're afraid of messing up and finding themselves in the same wave of anger, controversy, and backlash.

eeeehhh that's really silly

the only way that could genuinely worry someone (and again its still silly) is if they honest to god didn't know why people hated ME3's ending

I mean come on the bar is really really low there

bificommander:

. If they just make an episode 3 with the portal gun, a bossfight with the brainslug and Gordon riding his dunebuggy into the sunset with Alyx on the backseat, it'd be boring and unoriginal but it still wouldn't be nearly as jarring as ME3.

exactly it doesn't make any sense that that would even be a factor

and while my opinion of the "gaming masses" is pretty low these days I think its unfair to call people entitled over being upset with the story OR for asking what the hell happened

like seriously screw you Valve...all you had to say was "nope its cancelled" which would be BS but at least it would be an answer...it kind of irks me when creators act like the fans are the asshole for...you know....liking the product

Newsflash: The Know is trash and this is clickbait and not actually news.

The ME3 ending controversy was an entirely different kettle of fish.

Combine pre release hype and expectations.
From game 1 you were expecting to make hard choices that meant there was no optimal solution and you'd have to sacrifice to succeed. ME1 and ME2 set the high mark for epic endings to games where contemporaries blew all their budgets on the intro sequences.
Add in all the marketing telling you how ME3's ending would be a ME2 style suicide mission but instead of risking the lives of your crew you'd be waging the lives of entire fleets and species against the Reapers.

Add on DLC controversy with all the game monetisation and the "From Ashes" on disk DLC.

Then, when the game finally hit the ending was so monumentally bad, logically impossible and contradicted established lore so completely while also failing to hit any expectations or pre-release promises (and the final game message was BUY DLC to continue Shepard's story!) that many players were questioning whether BW/EA were going to release the REAL ending to the story as paid for DLC. The indoctrination theory popped up as the idea that Shepard was suffering a mind controlled hallucination was the only thing that made possible sense and that perhaps BioWare was trolling it's userbase by pretending to indoctrinate the player.

Hell, it was exactly the type of ending they told gamers they wouldn't do as well.

A whole bunch of people were pissed off to see that they finished the game, got a weird explosion, wondered where the real ending was, replayed it with a different choice and got nearly the exact same ending with a different colour, then went onto the net to be absolutely sure and found out there was no other ending.

So you have the perfect shitstorm of questionable monetisation, arguably the worst written ending in science fiction history, pissed of gamers wondering where the ending they were told to expect was and then on top of that, BioWare not responding to requests about whether or not it was actually the real ending or not and a whole bunch of gaming media insulting gamers by calling them entitled only stoking the fires further.

It's hard to imagine how any reasonably crafted version of HL3 could manage to create that level of outrage.

Darth Rosenberg:

Sigmund Av Volsung:
Thing is, Mass Effect 3 was bad all over.

Wildly subjective comment is wildly subjective. If you think everything about ME3 was bad (which is what "bad all over" would suggest), well, you've maybe not played many games if that's your bad-all-over benchmark...

H-L3: honestly, I don't think I can give a toss any more, regardless of the reasons for Valve's utterly bizarre treatment of the series. Then again I was personally a little disappointed with both Episodes anyway, so H-L2's legacy lost some of its lustre even when they were bothering to make content.

Either way, that cliffhanger Ep2 ending rather feels like 'fuck you' from Valve to all the fans at this point. And all I can really do is return the sentiment... See also: never sign up to Steam.

I did think about it, and my opinion of Mass Effect 3 has gotten worse. The new JJ Abrams aesthetic is difficult on the eyes and undermines that 80's Space Opera magic that Mass Effect 1 and 2 shared. You spend much more time fighting than you did in Mass Effect 2, and the added bells and whistles like dodge rolls don't stop it from being boring. Pretty much all of your companions stay static(disregarding Citadel DLC) without much in the way of character development and it's difficult to care about any of the worlds which were invaded by the Reapers since the game didn't establish any emotional connection outside of "it's war, so it's bad, so you should be angry".

It is subjective, but the ending really was just one part of what made the game lesser overall. Maybe not necessarily downright bad, but definitely annoyingly mediocre.

And this is in comparison to a lot of other western RPGs that I've played. Bearing in mind that Mass Effect 2 is one of what I would consider exemplars in that genre; the last mission is fantastically designed.

I only click on these HL3 articles to see how more stupid and meaningless they have become. And I don't get disappointed in that regard.
So take your accomplished click-bait, Shamus an be happy with it.

The only news I care about is: IT'S OUT! So please do us all a favor, please...

Sigmund Av Volsung:
ME3 stuff

I'll answer in a PM, 'cause this is wholly offtopic.

Silentpony:
This is still a thing? People still believe there's a chance Half Life 3 is coming out?!

Well that is weird, really. Why would anyone expect a sequel to an old, dusty FPS franchise, with its last entry being introduced almost a decade ago. C'mon, you might wait for Duke Nukem Forever as well- What? DNF has been released?... Well, most likely an exception. Half Life 3 at this point is to PCs, what that longly awaited Final Fantasy VII Remake is to con- Oh, you gotta be kidding me... Okay, but maybe even now PCs aren't that big, maybe we'll find a better analogy on more obscure platfoms... like Dreamcast! Yeah, what was that one of the few Dreamcasts series have gained a cult status, and most likely will never get a closure? Ah, right Shenm- FUCK.

The Know has an update. They were unofficially given the scoop that the rumors and speculation they laid out in the linked video were BS.

Original video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50lSIaSR3zc
Updated video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67WZpn04SY

P-89 Scorpion:

Exley97:
In regards to the alleged anonymous employee cited by The Know, the first reason -- it makes so much money on Steam that HL3 development isn't a priority -- may hold some water since they really haven't done much of ANY game development recently.

They released games through 2007-2013 and they are not that big between running steam and the constantly updating TF2 and Dota 2 why is having a year or two off such a problem? Rockstar games has nearly 3 times the staff over 7 locations and also haven't released a new game since 2013.

The Rockstar comparison is actually a good point. But still, we're a long way away from 2007 and the days of Orange Box. Since Portal 2 in 2011, Dota 2 is really the new game the company has released (I don't really count CS:GO as a "new" Valve game).

I suppose if you want to be an optimist in regards to HL3, you *could* argue the following -- Valve hasn't laid off large swaths of its developer corps, and they're obviously not working on other games right now, so they must be working on SOMETHING, right? Right?

Exley97:
In regards to the alleged anonymous employee cited by The Know, the first reason -- it makes so much money on Steam that HL3 development isn't a priority -- may hold some water since they really haven't done much of ANY game development recently.

But the second reason? Mass Effect 3? Really? Being afraid of backlash doesn't really seem to be a trait of Valve. If it was afraid of pissing off fans and suffering a huge backlash, it never would have required Steam for Half-Life 2.

it also doesn't wash on the type of game front, the RPG with meaningful choices that was Mass effect games is not HL 3, no one expects anything other than what they write. there only has to be one ending so we are not going to end up with another shitty three buttons to pick ending (that then makes no sense) it's would just be the end, weather you like it or not.

might that piss some people off? sure, and if is point is giving an ending at all is too risky at this point i can see some logic to it. But the mass effect 3 argument doesn't wash, it was a game that said we would pick the ending then rail road us in to their ending.

MrCalavera:

Silentpony:
This is still a thing? People still believe there's a chance Half Life 3 is coming out?!

Well that is weird, really. Why would anyone expect a sequel to an old, dusty FPS franchise, with its last entry being introduced almost a decade ago. C'mon, you might wait for Duke Nukem Forever as well- What? DNF has been released?... Well, most likely an exception. Half Life 3 at this point is to PCs, what that longly awaited Final Fantasy VII Remake is to con- Oh, you gotta be kidding me... Okay, but maybe even now PCs aren't that big, maybe we'll find a better analogy on more obscure platforms... like Dreamcast! Yeah, what was that one of the few Dreamcasts series have gained a cult status, and most likely will never get a closure? Ah, right Shenm- FUCK.

And I'm sure all those games will be as worth it as Duke Nukem Forever, because as we all know, a game's development time is directly proportional to its quality. Five Night's At Freddy takes about a month to make and its never sold a single copy. However, Diablo III took nearly a decade and we can all agree it was Blizzard's best game. L.A. Noire too seven and it was the most realistic and emotional experience any human can have! Too Human took nine years and that game retroactively ended the Cold War.

Duke Nukem Forever cured cancer. All of it. In everything, EVER.

So I agree with you. Shenmue will solve world hunger forever. And Half Life 3 will literally bring on the Rapture, but God will have played it and loved humanity so much that no one goes to Hell! Instead every human that has ever lived will get a supermodel spouse, a bottle of their favorite beer that never runs out or gets warm, and the stars themselves will be realigned to say " 10/10 " so that any life in any other galaxy will know God approves.
And I will settle for nothing less than that.
Because development time = quality.

Let's get serious, people. Everybody knows that Half-Life 3 is a SteamVR exclusive and every time you finish an in-game achievement the genital-mounted mouth simulator performs oral sex on you.

Half-Life 3: confirmed for March 3rd, 3333.

Silentpony:

MrCalavera:

Silentpony:
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lolno. I didn't say anything about quality, and i'm not sure why do you even bring it up. HL3 may be a steaming pile of crap with a crowbar stuck in the middle like a birthday candle, by the time it comes out(if it comes out), but there are good reasons why people are still waiting for a closure of their beloved, nostalgia-soaked franchise. Namely three in my original post, but there might be even more.

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