Zero Punctuation: Metroid Prime Federation Force

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aegix drakan:

Hawki:
The Sonic fanbase is hardly small. Maybe on this site, but, yeah. And I say that who hasn't played a Sonic game since Rush Adventure, but still follows the speedster to varying degrees.

ummm...Please note the keyword "sane" Sonic fans. XD Most of the ones I've met are either Obsessive Classic-ists, Adventure Fanboys, over the top Fanfic nutters, or some weird variant thereof. I mean, there ARE indeed plenty of exceptions but... XD

Well, I guess that I'll call myself an Adventure fanboy, in as much that I think that the Adventure games are quite good overall (and Heroes), and that the 3D games only started going askew with Shadow. Also written plenty of Sonic fanfic, but I will say in my defence that I've never gone down the route of...well...y'know...

(Seriously, how did AmyxShadow become a 'thing?' And why the hell are people so uncreative with OCs that it's always another bloody hedgehog? Where's my reptile and amphibian OCs ya bastards?!)

erttheking:

Hawki:
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*Sigh* I would've thought that my previous post would've made my distaste for Hunters clear. I didn't think I would have to clarify it a second time. And I'm not sorry, I've not played many game series that impact me the way the Prime Trilogy has. So please. No fanboy labels.

I know, which highlights the contradiction in your post. "The sheer quality of Metroid games." So either they all conform to this quality, or they don't, and therefore, "sheer quality" can't apply. Also, having played Metroid Prime, I can't back up the "shear quality" in the scope of personal experience, but that's beside the point.

Yes, this is nitpicking, but arguing that "X is good" without backing it up is argument by assertion.

Hawki:
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Oh for the love of Christ, people make generalizations like this when they talk all the time. When people say "I like Fire Emblem" they don't instantly include tiny little things like "Except for this one game in the franchise that's kind of weak." And you didn't like a game that I did. uh. Ok?

I was stating my goddamn viewpoint on the series as contrary to someone who thought they should all go die. Someone who was derailing the argument in doing so by the way.

slo:
As far as I know, op4 eventually gave birth to Counter-Strike, so that's that.

Counter Strike, like Team Fortress, is a mod that originated in Quake. Counter Strike was actually ripped off from the original FireArms mod for Quake as well. FireArms and Counter Strike were two of the first FPS entries to have weapon reloading, which is something the original Half-Life adopted from those mods. So no, an expansion pack that came after Counter Strike's release as a Half-Life mod did not inspire the mod that predates the expansion pack.

Oh boy. And Yahtzee didn't even get to the ending. It's really not much of a surprise, given Nintendo's recent track record of demolishing all we hold dear.

darkrage6:
Yes thank you Yahtzee for shitting all over this terrible excuse for a Metroid game, another bad thing about this game is the graphics look horribly outdated, seriously they look like they could've been on the regular DS(Metroid Prime Hunters looked better)

Having recently replayed Metroid Prime: Hunters, please let me assure you that no, it really, really didn't.

inu-kun:
Maybe after all the people being pissed off as how Samus was portrayed in Other M Nintendo just preferred to not show her so no one could complain about that...

Considering how out of touch they are with the established fanbases for their games, it's quite possible. And of course the end result of such a misguided attempt to make people forget about their misstep would be everybody mentioning Other M and Nintendo's mismanagement of the franchise whenever the topic of Metroid comes up.

Allan Foe:

inu-kun:
Maybe after all the people being pissed off as how Samus was portrayed in Other M Nintendo just preferred to not show her so no one could complain about that...

Considering how out of touch they are with the established fanbases for their games, it's quite possible. And of course the end result of such a misguided attempt to make people forget about their misstep would be everybody mentioning Other M and Nintendo's mismanagement of the franchise whenever the topic of Metroid comes up.

And this is another reason why Metroid needs to die. It's turning gamers into tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists because only such people would ever think that was the intention.

LordTerminal:

Allan Foe:

inu-kun:
Maybe after all the people being pissed off as how Samus was portrayed in Other M Nintendo just preferred to not show her so no one could complain about that...

Considering how out of touch they are with the established fanbases for their games, it's quite possible. And of course the end result of such a misguided attempt to make people forget about their misstep would be everybody mentioning Other M and Nintendo's mismanagement of the franchise whenever the topic of Metroid comes up.

And this is another reason why Metroid needs to die. It's turning gamers into tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists because only such people would ever think that was the intention.

Or maybe there's the much more simple explanation that Nintendo is fucking stupid. No tin-foil on my head, yet I still think sticker star was awful.

erttheking:

LordTerminal:

Allan Foe:

Considering how out of touch they are with the established fanbases for their games, it's quite possible. And of course the end result of such a misguided attempt to make people forget about their misstep would be everybody mentioning Other M and Nintendo's mismanagement of the franchise whenever the topic of Metroid comes up.

And this is another reason why Metroid needs to die. It's turning gamers into tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists because only such people would ever think that was the intention.

Or maybe there's the much more simple explanation that Nintendo is fucking stupid. No tin-foil on my head, yet I still think sticker star was awful.

I'm not sure if Japanese companies are still this way a decade later, but...

It's not that their stupid. It's just that they're willingly ignorant about how the Western market works differently when compared to the Eastern market. This is misunderstanding resulted in the biggest mistake Sega ever made, which eventually caused them to drop out of the console race, and Nintendo only cheated death because of them introducing a new gaming demographic with the Wii.

Though, admittedly, Western companies are guilty of this to. Need to look no further than the Xbox as an example (Though, strangely enough, it is considered the "hardcore" console over there).

I was kind of curious if they would make this game into something interesting, and they could have easily done that. They could have essentially had you play as the Metroid Universe equivalent of Star Wars clonetrooper special forces squads going around the galaxy fighting space pirates and aggressive wildlife. You'd rescue survivors, protect colonies, do scouting missions, etc. Maybe it played like Xcom, or Valkyria Chronicals. Maybe it played like Resistance or Halo. Hell it could have been Metroid:Battlefront and let you play as literally every Metroid character or monster in the series as well as introduce new ones.

It could have been THE flagship FPS for people not into Splatoon on the Wii U and while not a traditional Metroid game it could have been really fun as long as the gamepad screen was used in a good way instead of like in the new Star Fox. Hell even the football mini game could have been an alternative to Rocket League on consoles.

Instead they made this, on the 3DS. While I can't say I've played it, I can see that the prevailing assessment is less than positive.

Personally I'm happy with the GOOD games we already have. My favorites are Zero Mission, Super, Prime 1, and Prime 2.

I like Fusion, but given that it kind of painted the narrative into what has become a dead end, and that it led to the abOMination that makes the good ones non-canon I think I can safely leave it out of the top tier.

The other games are all good, except Hunters which I don't remember much of but do remember it having terrible controls and graphics.

These days games like Song of the Deep, Oceanhorn, Xeodrifter, Steamworld Dig, Fairune, and Axiom Verge take the place of equivalent Nintendo franchise installments as I think the last game of theirs I got was a Link Between Worlds and before that it was probably Other M.

LordTerminal:

Allan Foe:

inu-kun:
Maybe after all the people being pissed off as how Samus was portrayed in Other M Nintendo just preferred to not show her so no one could complain about that...

Considering how out of touch they are with the established fanbases for their games, it's quite possible. And of course the end result of such a misguided attempt to make people forget about their misstep would be everybody mentioning Other M and Nintendo's mismanagement of the franchise whenever the topic of Metroid comes up.

And this is another reason why Metroid needs to die. It's turning gamers into tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists because only such people would ever think that was the intention.

Pardon me, I should have used the universal caveat of "allegedly" before making that suggestion. The word "Metroid" allegedly does not exert some sort of magical conspiracy field that makes people go on wild guessing sprees, it's just what allegedly happens when there's a vacuum of information from the official source.

But if you are absolutely convinced that "Metroid" is allegedly to blame for all discontent in the gaming community and all of the annoyance ever expressed towards Nintendo in particular, I am afraid there's no hope for us, when it comes to the prospects of being rid of this vile menace! The foolish masses continue to perpetuate the term metroidvainia, the foolisher fans continue to make modifications of the originals and the foolishest indie developers never cease to make Metroid-likes! The World and consequently Nintendo are doomed because we couldn't do the right thing. I weep for us.

Heh! Metroid does rocket league. That's hilarious. Though rocket league itself now has F2P mechanics added with lockboxes and fucking keys of all things. How long after release is this shit allowed to go unnoticed? "Oh look, the game awarded me a chest! Now let's see what's inside...wait...I can't open it? I need to pay money for the keys?? You absolute fucking fucks!!"

chadachada123:
Oh boy. And Yahtzee didn't even get to the ending. It's really not much of a surprise, given Nintendo's recent track record of demolishing all we hold dear.

Oh my fucking god... just when I thought Nintendo could sink no lower. This is some SERIOUS bullshit. Thanks Nintendo for taking a massive dump all over one of my favorite franchises and characters.

Transdude1996:
I'm not sure if Japanese companies are still this way a decade later, but...

It's not that they're stupid. It's just that they're willingly ignorant about how the Western market works differently when compared to the Eastern market. This misunderstanding resulted in the biggest mistake Sega ever made, which eventually caused them to drop out of the console race, and Nintendo only cheated death because of them introducing a new gaming demographic with the Wii.

Though, admittedly, Western companies are guilty of this to. Need to look no further than the Xbox as an example (Though, strangely enough, it is considered the "hardcore" console over there).

What mistake of Sega's would that be? The rushed launch of the Saturn or the well regarded Dreamcast that nobody bought?

I'm curious what you're getting at, and how it regards to a difference in culture between Japan and the Western world.

I dunno, Yahtzee. Even the Nintendrones have been pretty annoyed at this title existence, and the only thing that will come of the bad reviews are feelings of vindication. Its pretty much the one time Yahtzee gets to review a Nintendo game and not get called out as someone that just hates the company. Seems like only one, maybe two people have brought up that "grudge" so far in this thread. I am skeptical, however, that anything will come of it, because while a lot of people are annoyed with this game, plenty of people are still piling aboard the Breath of the Wild hype-train.

Allan Foe:

LordTerminal:

Allan Foe:

Considering how out of touch they are with the established fanbases for their games, it's quite possible. And of course the end result of such a misguided attempt to make people forget about their misstep would be everybody mentioning Other M and Nintendo's mismanagement of the franchise whenever the topic of Metroid comes up.

And this is another reason why Metroid needs to die. It's turning gamers into tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists because only such people would ever think that was the intention.

Pardon me, I should have used the universal caveat of "allegedly" before making that suggestion. The word "Metroid" allegedly does not exert some sort of magical conspiracy field that makes people go on wild guessing sprees, it's just what allegedly happens when there's a vacuum of information from the official source.

But if you are absolutely convinced that "Metroid" is allegedly to blame for all discontent in the gaming community and all of the annoyance ever expressed towards Nintendo in particular, I am afraid there's no hope for us, when it comes to the prospects of being rid of this vile menace! The foolish masses continue to perpetuate the term metroidvainia, the foolisher fans continue to make modifications of the originals and the foolishest indie developers never cease to make Metroid-likes! The World and consequently Nintendo are doomed because we couldn't do the right thing. I weep for us.

Your BS sarcasm is not convincing me. If anything, you just proved that several companies have taken Metroid's formula and done it better than Metroid itself. What does Metroid still have to offer after all of that?

Oh my fucking god... just when I thought Nintendo could sink no lower. This is some SERIOUS bullshit. Thanks Nintendo for taking a massive dump all over one of my favorite franchises and characters.

And thank you for reminding me why I want this franchise to die. Because it makes the video game community that much more toxic of a place to be in.

LordTerminal:
Your BS sarcasm is not convincing me. If anything, you just proved that several companies have taken Metroid's formula and done it better than Metroid itself. What does Metroid still have to offer after all of that?

I dunno, the METROID FORMULA? It's almost like lots of people are making Metroidvania games because the people that SHOULD be making them (Nintendo, Konami) refuse to do so for some reason. And despite their best efforts, even the best knockoffs haven't reached the peaks of Super Metroid. Not Shadow Complex, not Dust: An Elysian Tail, not Axiom Verge, not Ori and the Blind Forest, not Aquaria, and not Valdis Story.

People clearly want to play these kind of games, and Nintendo are buffoons for not knowing what their customers want. They've been on a roll with it really. They blew it with Metroid, they blew it with Star Fox, they blew it with Paper Mario, and they're about to blow it with Paper Mario again.

Thanatos2k:

And despite their best efforts, even the best knockoffs haven't reached the peaks of Super Metroid. Not Shadow Complex, not Dust: An Elysian Tail, not Axiom Verge, not Ori and the Blind Forest, not Aquaria, and not Valdis Story.

Okay that's clear nostalgia blindness if I saw it. Super Metroid was good but it wasn't this magical wonder game that everyone keeps praising it for being.

LordTerminal:

Thanatos2k:

And despite their best efforts, even the best knockoffs haven't reached the peaks of Super Metroid. Not Shadow Complex, not Dust: An Elysian Tail, not Axiom Verge, not Ori and the Blind Forest, not Aquaria, and not Valdis Story.

Okay that's clear nostalgia blindness if I saw it. Super Metroid was good but it wasn't this magical wonder game that everyone keeps praising it for being.

And you're one of those "all old games must be worse" people, clearly. Super Metroid absolutely holds up.

Thanatos2k:

And you're one of those "all old games must be worse" people, clearly. Super Metroid absolutely holds up.

Why? Because I'm not afraid to not hail it as the second coming of Christ like everyone else?

Bedinsis:

Transdude1996:
I'm not sure if Japanese companies are still this way a decade later, but...

It's not that they're stupid. It's just that they're willingly ignorant about how the Western market works differently when compared to the Eastern market. This misunderstanding resulted in the biggest mistake Sega ever made, which eventually caused them to drop out of the console race, and Nintendo only cheated death because of them introducing a new gaming demographic with the Wii.

Though, admittedly, Western companies are guilty of this to. Need to look no further than the Xbox as an example (Though, strangely enough, it is considered the "hardcore" console over there).

What mistake of Sega's would that be? The rushed launch of the Saturn or the well regarded Dreamcast that nobody bought?

I'm curious what you're getting at, and how it regards to a difference in culture between Japan and the Western world.

It was the Saturn.

To keep the story as brief as possible, Sega of America was looked at as the poster child of the company after the Genesis' success in the West. Sega of Japan took resentment of this (Because the Genesis was a failure in Japan) and proceeded to ignore any talk coming from SoA. This began with the development of the Saturn all the way up to the last minute release of the console (Which SoA did everything they could to protest, but you can't do much 10 minutes 'till curtain).

As anyone could tell you, the Saturn bombed in America, but soared in Japan. By the time Dreamcast development began, and the company realized how much money they actually lost, SoJ did listen and talk with SoA, and they made the perfect console, until the PS2 was released.

LordTerminal:

Thanatos2k:

And you're one of those "all old games must be worse" people, clearly. Super Metroid absolutely holds up.

Why? Because I'm not afraid to not hail it as the second coming of Christ like everyone else?

It's a completely different thing to call others ignorant just because you disagree. Very arrogant behaviour. It's not like you have provided any strong evidence of anything in particular, and we already know you won't be able to so I would get off that high horse very quickly if I was you.

"First the sequels (to Metroid Prime) were kinda shit (refers to Metroid Prime 2 as an example)"

DAMN IT YATZHEE!!!

Metroid Prime 2 is the strongest and only good one of the Prime Sequals!!!

You should have used Prime 3 or Hunters. Don't bring down Prime 2 as shit.

Samtemdo8:
"First the sequals (to Metroid Prime) were kinda shit (refers to Metroid Prime 2 as an example)"

DAMN IT YATZHEE!!!

Metroid Prime 2 is the strongest and only good one of the Prime Sequals!!!

You should have used Prime 3 or Hunters. Don't bring down Prime 2 as shit.

It's "sequel," not "sequal!"

I CAN USE EXCLAMATION MARKS TOOO!!!

(But seriously, I'm all for ragging on Hunters, so I can let it go this time. ;p)

Hawki:

Samtemdo8:
"First the sequals (to Metroid Prime) were kinda shit (refers to Metroid Prime 2 as an example)"

DAMN IT YATZHEE!!!

Metroid Prime 2 is the strongest and only good one of the Prime Sequals!!!

You should have used Prime 3 or Hunters. Don't bring down Prime 2 as shit.

It's "sequel," not "sequal!"

I CAN USE EXCLAMATION MARKS TOOO!!!

(But seriously, I'm all for ragging on Hunters, so I can let it go this time. ;p)

The only good thing I can say about Hunters, is that I like the designs of the other Hunters:

And I hope that possible Metroid game that Federation Force's ending implies that a new Metroid Prime game was being made with Sylux as the villain comes true.

Samtemdo8:
"First the sequels (to Metroid Prime) were kinda shit (refers to Metroid Prime 2 as an example)"

DAMN IT YATZHEE!!!

Metroid Prime 2 is the strongest and only good one of the Prime Sequals!!!

You should have used Prime 3 or Hunters. Don't bring down Prime 2 as shit.

Eh, I dunno, I kind of have to agree with his assessment. I loved Metroid Prime to death, but I couldn't even make myself finish Metroid Prime 2. Hunters was actually pretty good, once you got past the absolutely terrible control scheme. Seriously, what was it with Nintendo and making DS titles that you need three hands to play? Starfox Command was a pretty good game (and one of the few Starfox games with an actual unique story) crippled by similarly poor controls.

LordTerminal:

Allan Foe:

Pardon me, I should have used the universal caveat of "allegedly" before making that suggestion. The word "Metroid" allegedly does not exert some sort of magical conspiracy field that makes people go on wild guessing sprees, it's just what allegedly happens when there's a vacuum of information from the official source.

But if you are absolutely convinced that "Metroid" is allegedly to blame for all discontent in the gaming community and all of the annoyance ever expressed towards Nintendo in particular, I am afraid there's no hope for us, when it comes to the prospects of being rid of this vile menace! The foolish masses continue to perpetuate the term metroidvainia, the foolisher fans continue to make modifications of the originals and the foolishest indie developers never cease to make Metroid-likes! The World and consequently Nintendo are doomed because we couldn't do the right thing. I weep for us.

Your BS sarcasm is not convincing me. If anything, you just proved that several companies have taken Metroid's formula and done it better than Metroid itself. What does Metroid still have to offer after all of that?

Ow, that hurt! I thought that was quality sarcasm :( But let's not get carried away, I don't seek to start a flame war and I respect your opinion in regards to Metroid, as it is presented by Nintendo, being old boot. But I've not made an overt suggestion that other developers have superseded Metroid in my previous comment, my own opinion is that the original and its inspirations may co-exist in harmony. For example, some of the indie stuff like the excellent Metroid 2 remake, while not made by Nintendo themselves, borrows heavily from the last 2D Metroid games and is all the better for it. And from the look of the recently announced Zelda it seems that Nintendo does check out various modern videogame trends (survival games, for example), and if they took making another Metroid seriously we could expect their own update to the formula. Additionally, I am not sure if any other developers tried toying with Prime's mechanics -- that is still an open avenue for exploration.

All that said, if you'd like to mention games or series that in your opinion make Metroid obsolete I'd gladly give them a go (where technically possible), or at least seek out playtrhough videos. For example, recent games with heavy Metroid inspiration that I myself played are Environmental Station Alpha (very much a "Metroid by any other name") and Ghost 1.0 (much Metroid-*vanier* than the last one, but still feels relevant to the formula). And while I've not played it yet, but seen it played, Axiom Verge ("H.R. Giger's Metroid") looks pretty fun. The listed titles are great entertainment, but I don't think any of them made me feel "Time to bury Metroid and dance on its grave!"

rgrekejin:

Samtemdo8:
"First the sequels (to Metroid Prime) were kinda shit (refers to Metroid Prime 2 as an example)"

DAMN IT YATZHEE!!!

Metroid Prime 2 is the strongest and only good one of the Prime Sequals!!!

You should have used Prime 3 or Hunters. Don't bring down Prime 2 as shit.

Eh, I dunno, I kind of have to agree with his assessment. I loved Metroid Prime to death, but I couldn't even make myself finish Metroid Prime 2. Hunters was actually pretty good, once you got past the absolutely terrible control scheme. Seriously, what was it with Nintendo and making DS titles that you need three hands to play? Starfox Command was a pretty good game (and one of the few Starfox games with an actual unique story) crippled by similarly poor controls.

The thing about Prime 2 is that its Hard, as in almost Ninja Gaiden level hard.

The game was clearly made for people that are veterans of Prime 1 and other Metroid games. But that does not mean that overall gameplay is bad.

Its the first Metroid Game that uses unique world designs. I mean Torvus Bog and Sanctuary Fortress are huge examples. And the world is arguably the largest of the 3D games.

The enemy designs and especially the bosses are also increadibly, even better than Prime 1 at times.

And I like the improved features like the upgraded Scanning and especially Logbook where it has model viewers so you can see the monters and items you have scanned.

All in all I just find Prime 2 the only good one of the Prime Sequels because it clearly tried to expand on the gameplay of Prime 1.

Again the only crippling flaw is its difficulty because it was clearly made for the players that have played Prime 1 or long time Metroid players in general.

Heck I can rank them from difficulty:

Metroid: Zero Mission - Easiest Game ever

Metroid: Fusion: a bit more challeging with it getting alot harder at the end.

Prime 3: The easiest of the Prime games thanks to Hyper Mode.

AM2R: despite it being hard at times, after playing Fusion and Zero Mission the game can be a breeze.

Prime 1: The most balanced of the whole franchise.

Super Metroid: I find this game a bit difficult still, especially the Ridly fight and its mostly due to the controls not being as smooth as Zero Mission and AM2R.

Prime 2: The hardest and most challegeing especially trying to get 100% completion, Only for Metroid Veterans.

Original Metroid 1 and 2: Dated Bullshit that can make you cry.

I didn't realize the Prime series was considered, "Non-Canon." Why is it that Nintendo is being deliberately as stupid as Sega was in 2004 and still has a fan base on the internet? I imagine they'll move to pachinko like SNK and Konami and still be loved by the nostalgic blinded fans.

Hutzpah Chicken:
I didn't realize the Prime series was considered, "Non-Canon." Why is it that Nintendo is being deliberately as stupid as Sega was in 2004 and still has a fan base on the internet? I imagine they'll move to pachinko like SNK and Konami and still be loved by the nostalgic blinded fans.

The thing with Sega and SNK is that both companies were bought out because they had racked up a huge amount of debt. However, it's nice to see both of them bouncing back into gaming after those weird years. In fact, SNK actually closed their pachislot division.

As for Konami and Nintendo, they have no excuse.

*scratches head at the GameXplain video*

...Leaving aside the narrative aspect, that final boss just does not look like much fun.

On the plus side, seeing GameXplain again reminds me that maybe I should play Codename Steam again. I'm not done playing all the missions again on Hard, after all.

Samtemdo8:

Heck I can rank them from difficulty:

I disagree that AM2R is harder than Fusion. AM2R had some hard bits here and there, but Fusion...The Nightmare and Space-jump Spider still haunt me. I tried playing Fusion again a few years ago, and the Nightmare is just plain nuts. Am2R didn't have a boss anywhere NEAR that nasty.

rgrekejin:

Starfox Command was a pretty good game (and one of the few Starfox games with an actual unique story) crippled by similarly poor controls.

Ugh. It was fun for a while, but honestly that game was crippled by three major things.

1) The gameplay is fun at first, but after a while it gets really stale as every mission starts to blend together. Not to mention you have to replay the opening bits every time you want a different story path.

2) Half the pilots aren't fun, especially anyone in a Cornerian Fighter, which you're guaranteed to see reasonably often, because Krystal. -_- Seriously. Low durability, meh engines, twin lasers and no lock on? There's mediocre and then there's just plain trash, and that ship is the latter.

3) The canon story route is completely awful. Like, some of the branches are fun ("Star Wolf handles everything!" "Slippy fucks off to save his world with his girlfriend!" "Falco misses out on everything!"), but the canon path you have to play through to GET those branches is just terrible. x_X

The whole plot is just Fox refusing to deal with his relationship issues he caused by acting stupid and out of character, then finally resolving those issues, then the resolution being undone in the epilogue for what felt like no reason whatsoever.

Hey, I liked Metroid Prime 2!
Also, no jab at AM2R?

Given what has been going with Japanese game publishers lately, I've come to the conclusion that there is a current epidemic of the retard virus in Japan.

So basically it's Nintendo's failed attempt at emulating Halo ODST, only forgetting about anything that made ODST good.

ExileNZ:
So basically it's Nintendo's failed attempt at emulating Halo ODST, only forgetting about anything that made ODST good.

Considering that ODST was a lacklustre Halo game that focused on a squad of marines rather than its power-armoured protagonist, and considering the reception that Federation Force seems to have followed in its footsteps, I think they've replicated it quite well.

Piorn:
Hey, I liked Metroid Prime 2!
Also, no jab at AM2R?

Given Yahtzee's personal preferences, AM2R is probably a game he enjoys.

rgrekejin:
Starfox Command was a pretty good game (and one of the few Starfox games with an actual unique story) crippled by similarly poor controls.

Wait, what?

How was Star Fox's story unique? Maybe in its manner of delivery for its branching storylines, but it was stymied by repetitive missions, and an overall story that boils down to "the anglars (oh, don't you know they've been on Venom all this time) invade Lylat because...reasons." The one thing Command gave us was that it set up some potentially interesting plotlines (Marcus and Dash doing their own thing), but ones that Zero squandered by rebooting the series for a second time.

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