Zero Punctuation: Capcom Five

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Capcom Five

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Capcom Five.

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Funny thing is, there is still a Capcom franchise that's pretty much exclusive to Nintendo consoles. That's Ace Attorney - only been out on DS, Wii and 3DS as far as I remember. And it's doing pretty good there. (Yes, I know that there are iPad versions as well, but I don't really count it as a "gaming platform")

maximalist566:
Funny thing is, there is still a Capcom franchise that's pretty much exclusive to Nintendo consoles. That's Ace Attorney - only been out on DS, Wii and 3DS as far as I remember. And it's doing pretty good there. (Yes, I know that there are iPad versions as well, but I don't really count it as a "gaming platform")

Ah, yes, I love that franchise.

Though that's probably due to that being a franchise that you spend 70 % of the time reading and is therefore best suited to handhelds. And in the handheld department Nintendo has always been king.

Though I hope they'll some day release a PC port, since that's apparently a lucrative platform nowadays. But from what I've understood Ace Attorney is A LOT more popular in Japan than abroad, and the Japanese don't really play on PCs so I doubt we'll see that happen.

Uh Yatzhee the Xbox is techincally the more powerful than the Gamecube during that time.

Its ranked like this:

Xbox > Gamecube > PS2.

And I can tell some Xbox games have increadibly gorgeous graphics that outshines the other consoles.

Ninja Gaiden 1, Halo 2, Jade Empire, Conker's Bad Fur Day looked even better than Star Fox Adventures, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory?

THe Xbox even could play games that were made for the PC like Rainbow Six and Doom 3 and even fuckin Morrowind. (Albiet the latter with increadibly shitty framerate and draw distance.)

If it makes you feel any better Yahtzee, we may or may not be approaching an end, or at least a severe tone down of exclusivities, as a month or two ago someone asked a Microsoft representatitve if they were willing to partner up and create something with Sony and they said they'd be open to it, with Sony replying the same. About fucking time. Fingers crossed for it to not be another Sony-Nintendo fiasco (Unless it ends up creating another "Ps1", in which case it's a win-win)

Bedinsis:

maximalist566:
Funny thing is, there is still a Capcom franchise that's pretty much exclusive to Nintendo consoles. That's Ace Attorney - only been out on DS, Wii and 3DS as far as I remember. And it's doing pretty good there. (Yes, I know that there are iPad versions as well, but I don't really count it as a "gaming platform")

Ah, yes, I love that franchise.

Though that's probably due to that being a franchise that you spend 70 % of the time reading and is therefore best suited to handhelds. And in the handheld department Nintendo has always been king.

Though I hope they'll some day release a PC port, since that's apparently a lucrative platform nowadays. But from what I've understood Ace Attorney is A LOT more popular in Japan than abroad, and the Japanese don't really play on PCs so I doubt we'll see that happen.

Capcom refusing to bring physical copies of the last games to EU/US doesn't help their popularity. And about PC - I think Nintendo won't allow it, to be honest. Danganronpa was brought to PC despite being a PS Vita-only game that is much more popular in Japan than other world.

Well they aren't slutty enough to let us PC gamer folks a go on their famous Monster Hunter.

jRPG Waifu Pimping Simulator: Dark Arisen was a good start atleast.

Well this was different, but interesting nonetheless. I thought P.N. 03 was decent, but I get why others didn't like it. Nintendo indeed seems to be more clueless now then ever, given they've even run out of ideas for Mario(a 60 dollar level editor? no thanks!) and despite the NX being only five months away, we still barely know a damn thing about it, and I don't see Zelda being enough to sell the system. March is a strange time to launch a major console, so i'd be very surprised if it does any better then the Wii U.

I'm still holding out for a retro review of RE4. Surprised he hasn't done one already.

someone didn't have anything to review this week. either way, why do I just now learn RE4 was on the PS2 while I had a PS2? not cool, not cool at all.

And then, interestingly, Capcom's semi-annual money shitting machine Monster Hunter has made a swift turnaround from being a Sony exclusive to being an almost complete Nintendo exclusive once they worked out how to sell it to western audiences, although that may change if Sony can make a handheld that people outside of Japan actually buy.

Johnny Novgorod:
I'm still holding out for a retro review of RE4. Surprised he hasn't done one already.

What's there to say?! Its awesome, Leon is a dork, Luis is a sexy man, boing boing, 'your hand comes off?', LEEEOONN!, bang bang, woof.
There. That's RE4 in a nutshell.

Well, Color Splash is next week so Yahtzee can use his Wii U for the last time since it's the last major game. I am expecting his next one to be the best review of recently as the year has been kind of slow even before E3 and that hadn't given him enough material.

I honestly appreciate Capcom's habit of shouting "exclusive!!!" and then backing away quickly, I just wish the other developers did the same with Square Enix having to keep their mouths shut for 1 year about Rise of the Tomb Raider and FromSoftware not wanting to port Bloodborne to anything less than the PS4 (not even PC?!)

For Yahtzee's next gaming history, he should talk about Conspiracy Entertainment, the company that took shovelware to the next level.

Rawbeard:
someone didn't have anything to review this week. either way, why do I just now learn RE4 was on the PS2 while I had a PS2? not cool, not cool at all.

If it is of any conselation, it was a rather terrible port of the GC version.
To an extend the same for Killer 7, but that game just had framerate issues and terribly long loading times on the PS2.

Samtemdo8:
Uh Yatzhee the Xbox is techincally the more powerful than the Gamecube during that time.

Its ranked like this:

Xbox > Gamecube > PS2.

And I can tell some Xbox games have increadibly gorgeous graphics that outshines the other consoles.

Ninja Gaiden 1, Halo 2, Jade Empire, Conker's Bad Fur Day looked even better than Star Fox Adventures, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory?

THe Xbox even could play games that were made for the PC like Rainbow Six and Doom 3 and even fuckin Morrowind. (Albiet the latter with increadibly shitty framerate and draw distance.)

This. Despite never owning the original XBOX, I knew it was the most powerful graphically compared to the GameCube & PS2. Playing them at a friends, and a couple of game stores made me realize that early on.

Speaking of Capcom, history would repeat itself again. Devil May Cry 4 & FFXIII (Sqaure Enix, I know) were supposed to be PS3 exclusives, but once the price for the system was announced ($599.99 US Dollars!); both companies backed out at the last minute and made them mutliplatform. The controversy was huge! Capcom fans were pissed. DMC fans were pissed. Square fans were pissed. Sony fans were pissed. Most of all, a majority of them were fans of one, the other, or all. Before that time, those games were exclusive to Sony consoles. I know main series Final Fantasy games were exclusive to Nintendo consoles at first, but that changed during the 5th generation consoles when a lot of 3rd party developers jumped to Sony.

DMC4 would later get a PC port and on Android/ISO [1]. The first three games were later ported to PS3 & 360, something a lot of people, myself included, thought to be impossible. To prove my point Dead Rising 3 & 4 is getting ported to PS4 later next year.

[1] There was a PC port of DMC3, but it was horrible, and took many years of fan made patches to make it playable.

Im just pissed that the new Streetfighter managed to be PC/Sony only.

Couldnt they back track on that one as well? Now Im waiting on Tekken 7 for my fist to face fix.

Hearing that jingle again put a mile-wide smile on my face. You know, it's possible that Nintendo and Capcom's silliness made Suda51 shout, "That's it! I'm starting my own game dev studio! With blackjack! And hookers!" And you know he's quirky enough to follow through on all those promises.
Also, I thought Nintendo stuck to cartridges on the N64 and mini-discs for the GameCube because it was supposed to make game piracy harder.

Igor-Rowan:
Well, Color Splash is next week so Yahtzee can use his Wii U for the last time since it's the last major game. I am expecting his next one to be the best review of recently as the year has been kind of slow even before E3 and that hadn't given him enough material.

I honestly appreciate Capcom's habit of shouting "exclusive!!!" and then backing away quickly, I just wish the other developers did the same with Square Enix having to keep their mouths shut for 1 year about Rise of the Tomb Raider and FromSoftware not wanting to port Bloodborne to anything less than the PS4 (not even PC?!)

For Yahtzee's next gaming history, he should talk about Conspiracy Entertainment, the company that took shovelware to the next level.

The jokes for them will write themselves.

09philj:
And then, interestingly, Capcom's semi-annual money shitting machine Monster Hunter has made a swift turnaround from being a Sony exclusive to being an almost complete Nintendo exclusive once they worked out how to sell it to western audiences, although that may change if Sony can make a handheld that people outside of Japan actually buy.

Monster Hunter's main audience is in Japan. It was never all that popular in the West.

While Capcom dragged it feet with regards to putting Monster Hunter on a home console like the PS3/360 ... the Souls series pretty much stole the hard-as-nails niche from under their noses.

Am I the only one who instantly grinned as soon as I heard the little song at the start? It's been WAY too long since we've had one of these! XD

Can't wait for the NX to finally be revealed, only for all third parties other than Ubisoft (who lies about it anyways) to shakily cough and look around nervously when asked if they're making games for it.

Darth_Payn:
Also, I thought Nintendo stuck to cartridges on the N64 and mini-discs for the GameCube because it was supposed to make game piracy harder.

They did, but Sony's marketing turned their system into a glorified DVD player for half the price of one and the Xbox went on to set the standard for online console gaming, so Nintendo's only concern at the time was one thig that led to the GameCube's chain reaction of failure.

Darth_Payn:
The jokes for them will write themselves.

I remember that time when shovelware was becoming relatively tame compared to the NES days, then these guys come along to bring the worst this industry has to offer: destroying the Wii's reputations, setting (lack of) standards that would later multiply in the mobile market and paving the way for asset flipping, years before Steam's Early access.

I don't remember PN03 being that bad... a bit easy sure, and definitely wouldn't fly in today's market unless it had an oversensitive director who insulted anyone who didn't like the game.

At least Resident Evil remake and Resident Evil 0 remained exclusives for quite a while. At least Capcom tried to put something out on the freaking GC, I have no fondness for Nintendo's own games for that console, except maybe Luigi's Mansion.

The thing about exclusives is, developers like them because it means they only have to learn how to develop for one platform. And if console manufacturers are willing to throw in some free money for it, then why not. Exclusives will only go away when we no longer have separate platforms, which in my opinion cannot happen soon enough. I may have brought this up before, but imagine a world where Betamax and HD-DVD never went away and everyone was expected to own one of each type of player in order to watch every movie. Now imagine instead of just two dueling formats, there are three, plus another that only works on computers and another that only works on portable devices and and and

Sadly, unless capitalism completely ceases to exist and all industries become monopolized and nationalized, the only way we'll ever see an end to the platform wars is if every manufacturer but one goes out of business or they all merge or some other cataclysmic event that would lead to an even less consumer-friendly industry than we have now.

maximalist566:
Funny thing is, there is still a Capcom franchise that's pretty much exclusive to Nintendo consoles. That's Ace Attorney - only been out on DS, Wii and 3DS as far as I remember. And it's doing pretty good there. (Yes, I know that there are iPad versions as well, but I don't really count it as a "gaming platform")

You should count it as gaming platforms, the best version of Dual Destinies is the iOS version. And it's not doing all that great. 2 of the games weren't even released here and the mainline series is relegated to eshop only with overpriced DLC. Sales seem to be on a downward trajectory. AA used to be localised into 5 different languages, and now we only get English.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they started porting the newer AA games to PC and Consoles. They don't really have an excuse now that the series if fully 3D. Would be a lot smarter for the series to branch out. Worked out pretty well for Danganronpa, and those games suck. Might even result in enough extra scratch for them to localise Great Ace Attorney. It sucks that they just announced the sequel, and we didn't even get the first one.

The best version of RE4 was still on the Wii. Aiming with the wiimote is just so damn natural compared to the massive awkwardness that is thumbstick controlled crosshairs

Tune in to next week's Let's Drown Out Lawn Clippings and Dead Wasps Simulator as featured on The Best of Steam Greenlight.

Capcom may not be the juggernaut it used to be, but it is still relevant and cashes in on its IPs and nostalgia in a way that is not quite denigrating. Not yet anyway. Apart from quietly euthanizing the Mega Man multiverse which is their biggest wtf move for many to date.

Team Ico is probably the least relevant dev team I can think of that are technically still making a game.

Konami is like someone who decided to treat their advanced rabies by getting high on bath salts, and that is AFTER Kojima left with his own abberant miasma. I don't even know how to internalize their words and deeds as coming from sapient life sometimes.

Bizarrely I think Capcom has done a better job of making Zelda games than Nintendo has since Majora's Mask. Maybe they should let them try their hands at Metroid.

bjj hero:
Im just pissed that the new Streetfighter managed to be PC/Sony only.

Couldnt they back track on that one as well?

I suspect MS was trying to push it to being a UWP exclusive at the time. And Capcom remembered all to well how MS exclusivity paid off last time...

Never say never, but dont expect it before SF5 gets a title update. If it gets a title update.

I really dislike the "exclusivity is anti consumerism" opinion, actual competition between consoles can make them invest in better games rather than the current trend of making mediocre games because people will buy them for brand name. At worst buy another console, god knows people today spend much more money for much stupider things.

Oh capcom, how you've fallen, not as far as Nintendo, but fallen none the less. Actually Rare has fallen farther then both of them, and then there's Sonic... Wow, someone take my childhood outback and put it of it's misery, it shouldn't continue on like a zombie like it has been.

Ironically the Gamecube is one of my favorite consoles.

It's nice to hear that jingle again, maybe next time we could look at the failures of Konami, or is that beating a dead horse? Still looking forward to a possible RE4 retro review though.

Johnny Novgorod:
I'm still holding out for a retro review of RE4. Surprised he hasn't done one already.

That and Hitman: Blood Money. They both have things you can make fun of and stuff that's really good, making them ideal for retro reviews.

yahtzee forgot about the other gamecube exclusive games made by capcom like RE1 remake and RE Zero

Three videos. Three damn videos now he's mentioned Federation Force. Try to tell me he's not pandering to the haters now. In fact this whole video reeks of anti-Nintendo propaganda because he got so much wrong!

1) The Gamecube was hurting in sales because the PS2 had online and the gimmick of a built-in DVD player, two things the Gamecube lacked. If developers were really bitching over the discs, then congrats 3rd Parties, you've proven my point that you have too much freedom and will screw over companies based on essentially nothing.

2) P.N.03 was only reviewed terribly and we all know now not to trust the reviewing media. Yahtzee included.

3) For something called the Capcom 5, it seems Yahtzee spent more time insulting Nintendo. Yeah we're not gonna acknowledge how modern Capcom performed so many heinous acts in the business in recent years and how it crippled them to the point where only Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Dead Rising are the only franchises that they give attention to these days? (Where's my Darkstalkers 4?!)

4) Okay now you're making things up because Brawl not having Mega Man had nothing to do with that. There just wasn't time to implement him. Anyone who believes that rumor needs to take the damn tin foil hat off.

5) Exclusivity is not anti-consumerism. This is PC elitism horse crap if I ever heard it! What is the point of getting a console if you don't have exclusives that you offer that others don't in addition to the 3rd Party stuff? If anything, the mentality of the market today needs to die and we need to go back to what made the 16-bit era great instead.

There's no way around it. This is anti-Nintendo propaganda. If I wanted that, I'd go read the garbage Sean Malstrom spews on that cesspool of a blog of his. Yahtzee is not fit to review Nintendo products anymore. He only cares about Nintendo products that cater to his elitist auteur views and considers the company a virus otherwise. Hence he gets labeled biased. No Yahtzee, you are the virus here.

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