The LEGO Batman Movie - Everything is Still Awesome

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The LEGO Batman Movie - Everything is Still Awesome

The LEGO Batman Movie is the best Batman movie in years - and one of the best ever.

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Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irreverent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

Totally agree Samtemdo8. I think they should have tried to make 12 Angry Men, or Citizen Kane, but with Batman, because that's the kind of movie mature, intellectual movie goers prefer.

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

You haven't seen it so you can't judge it. I'm excited for all the in-jokes for us comic book fans.

Plus this movie just looks fun, unlike the rest of DC's recent film output.

Kenbo Slice:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

You haven't seen it so you can't judge it. I'm excited for all the in-jokes for us comic book fans.

Plus this movie just looks fun, unlike the rest of DC's recent film output.

I don't want fun, I want drama, I want stakes, I want to have care for the character, I want the character to bleed on the floor so that thier eventual triumph is all the more glorious and tear inducing.

Samtemdo8:

Kenbo Slice:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

You haven't seen it so you can't judge it. I'm excited for all the in-jokes for us comic book fans.

Plus this movie just looks fun, unlike the rest of DC's recent film output.

I don't want fun, I want drama, I want stakes, I want to have care for the character, I want the character to bleed on the floor so that thier eventual triumph is all the more glorious and tear inducing.

Tell me who hurt you so you hate fun so much. Not everything has to be dark and serious. It's okay to have fun every once in a while.

I have never laughed so much in a movie before. Seriously, the first 10 seconds of the movie had the first joke and then I did not stop.
I'm such a sucker for meta humor.

What a time to be a Batman fan, between Killing Joke and Batman v. Superman, that cameo in Suicide Squad, the direc-to-video Return of the Caped Crusader, Bat Blood, Justice League vs. Teen Titans, on top of the Return to Arkham collection plus the Arkham VR and the new Injustice game. All of that within a year and now this. I wonder if it's possible to get sick of Batman, I've certainly got sick of seeing Martha Wayne and the other dude getting shot.

OT: Lego Batman, the unlikeliest of the matchups, still as funny as the original, although I miss Emmet.

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

And I thought you were done with superheroes, yet you're the 1st to post a reply to a superhero movie review. I guess you'll be the 1st to reply on Guardians Vol.2 review saying how nobody should be having any fun with it.

Kenbo Slice:

Samtemdo8:

Kenbo Slice:

You haven't seen it so you can't judge it. I'm excited for all the in-jokes for us comic book fans.

Plus this movie just looks fun, unlike the rest of DC's recent film output.

I don't want fun, I want drama, I want stakes, I want to have care for the character, I want the character to bleed on the floor so that thier eventual triumph is all the more glorious and tear inducing.

Tell me who hurt you so you hate fun so much. Not everything has to be dark and serious. It's okay to have fun every once in a while.

No one hurt me. That stereotype does not apply to everyone.

Phoenixmgs:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

And I thought you were done with superheroes, yet you're the 1st to post a reply to a superhero movie review. I guess you'll be the 1st to reply on Guardians Vol.2 review saying how nobody should be having any fun with it.

No I would have said the samething if was Zootopia (because the praise its getting is overshadowing the masterpieces of the Renissance and Golden and Silver Era of Disney Animation)

Or silly Manga like One-Punch Man overshadowing brilliantely written Manga like Lone Wolf and Cub.

Phoenixmgs:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

And I thought you were done with superheroes, yet you're the 1st to post a reply to a superhero movie review. I guess you'll be the 1st to reply on Guardians Vol.2 review saying how nobody should be having any fun with it.

I say just ignore him. He ain't worth your time.

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

Used "shit" three times.
Misspelled Irreverent.
Generalized "The current movie going public"
Concluded the post with "Utter Lameness".

Samtemdo8:
No I would have said the samething if was Zootopia (because the praise its getting is overshadowing the masterpieces of the Renissance and Golden and Silver Era of Disney Animation)

Or silly Manga like One-Punch Man overshadowing brilliantely written Manga like Lone Wolf and Cub.

Zootopia is rated lower (on RottenTomatoes) than the classic 2D Disney movies you refer to. I don't know how Zootopia is overshadowing known classics. Manga/Anime ratings are beyond broken. The number of animes that are rated as "masterpieces" that have been literally trainwreck bad is beyond ridiculous, and this has been going for quite a long time so much so I have a hard time even trying most anything with regards to anime.

Phoenixmgs:

Samtemdo8:
No I would have said the samething if was Zootopia (because the praise its getting is overshadowing the masterpieces of the Renissance and Golden and Silver Era of Disney Animation)

Or silly Manga like One-Punch Man overshadowing brilliantely written Manga like Lone Wolf and Cub.

Zootopia is rated lower (on RottenTomatoes) than the classic 2D Disney movies you refer to. I don't know how Zootopia is overshadowing known classics. Manga/Anime ratings are beyond broken. The number of animes that are rated as "masterpieces" that have been literally trainwreck bad is beyond ridiculous, and this has been going for quite a long time so much so I have a hard time even trying most anything with regards to anime.

So the Zootopia hype finally died down?

Omey:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

Used "shit" three times.
Misspelled Irreverent.
Generalized "The current movie going public"
Concluded the post with "Utter Lameness".

1. That's how I talk.

2. EDIT: Noticed it. At a glance it looked like it was spelled as it should.

3. I have seen so many Reviewers both Youtube and official and read so many comments on youtube asking for movies to be more lighthearted.

4. Yes I think things like Zootopia and this Lego Batman movie to be utterly lame.

Phoenixmgs:

Zootopia is rated lower (on RottenTomatoes) than the classic 2D Disney movies you refer to. I don't know how Zootopia is overshadowing known classics.

Should ratings on rotten tomatoes or IMDB affect a person's relative enjoyment of a movie? Are internet website ratings an objective way to judge what makes a movie good? What makes a movie better than the other? If someone does not like a movie rated better by a third party does that mean their appreciation of a movie is wrong? Does that mean people who like movies that are not universally accepted to be "Good" are people with poor judgment? Is it right to judge a person by that? Further, is it alright to judge your own self-worth based on things you like and consume? Because I like metal and do not like rap, is it ok to be hateful towards other form of music? What is the difference between indifference and offense? Or is it because I'm looking for a reason to feel like something separates me from the people who like the other form of music? Does my offense or indifference come from an objective place? Can art be objective? Have their been studies showing whether people with higher IQs like a particular type of movie or music? But most importantly having a higher IQ make you a better person? What is a good person?

Samtemdo8:

Phoenixmgs:

Samtemdo8:
No I would have said the samething if was Zootopia (because the praise its getting is overshadowing the masterpieces of the Renissance and Golden and Silver Era of Disney Animation)

Or silly Manga like One-Punch Man overshadowing brilliantely written Manga like Lone Wolf and Cub.

Zootopia is rated lower (on RottenTomatoes) than the classic 2D Disney movies you refer to. I don't know how Zootopia is overshadowing known classics. Manga/Anime ratings are beyond broken. The number of animes that are rated as "masterpieces" that have been literally trainwreck bad is beyond ridiculous, and this has been going for quite a long time so much so I have a hard time even trying most anything with regards to anime.

So the Zootopia hype finally died down?

Omey:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

Used "shit" three times.
Misspelled Irreverent.
Generalized "The current movie going public"
Concluded the post with "Utter Lameness".

1. That's how I talk.

2. No I did not

3. I have seen so many Reviewers both Youtube and official and read so many comments on youtube asking for movies to be more lighthearted.

4. Yes I think things like Zootopia and this Lego Batman movie to be utterly lame.

1. Interesting. Do you talk like that to people you know in real life? Do you have the courage to talk like that to people who are socially more popular than you? Do you talk like that to people who are physically bigger than you? Is this internet talk or do you walk around with a chip on your shoulder in real life or on your job where you may need to interact with people?

2. "Irrevenent" - That is what you spelled in the original post. That is not a word. Hence you have misspelled it. I dont know what your intended word was but if it wasn't irreverent, then what other word was it?

3. What makes you call out the movie going public like they are a group? Does everyone who watches movies fall in that group. If I enter a movie theater right now, how many of the people watching that movie will fall in that group? Is there a percentage? Do all the people in that group hold the exact same views?

4. What does utterly lame mean? Is it your opinion or a fact? What facts have you used to come to your opinion?

Omey:

Samtemdo8:

Phoenixmgs:

Zootopia is rated lower (on RottenTomatoes) than the classic 2D Disney movies you refer to. I don't know how Zootopia is overshadowing known classics. Manga/Anime ratings are beyond broken. The number of animes that are rated as "masterpieces" that have been literally trainwreck bad is beyond ridiculous, and this has been going for quite a long time so much so I have a hard time even trying most anything with regards to anime.

So the Zootopia hype finally died down?

Omey:

Used "shit" three times.
Misspelled Irreverent.
Generalized "The current movie going public"
Concluded the post with "Utter Lameness".

1. That's how I talk.

2. No I did not

3. I have seen so many Reviewers both Youtube and official and read so many comments on youtube asking for movies to be more lighthearted.

4. Yes I think things like Zootopia and this Lego Batman movie to be utterly lame.

1. Interesting. Do you talk like that to people you know in real life? Do you have the courage to talk like that to people who are socially more popular than you? Do you talk like that to people who are physically bigger than you? Is this internet talk or do you walk around with a chip on your shoulder in real life or on your job where you may need to interact with people?

2. "Irrevenent" - That is what you spelled in the original post. That is not a word. Hence you have misspelled it. I dont know what your intended word was but if it wasn't irreverent, then what other word was it?

3. What makes you call out the movie going public like they are a group? Does everyone who watches movies fall in that group. If I enter a movie theater right now, how many of the people watching that movie will fall in that group? Is there a percentage? Do all the people in that group hold the exact same views?

4. What does utterly lame mean? Is it your opinion or a fact? What facts have you used to come to your opinion?

1. Mostly internet, but with people I am familiar with like my brother I talk like this to him to, and sometimes with my father. But I see where you are getting at, that me cussing would bother people. I apoligize, I was just venting my frustration that this movie gonna become another Zooptopia/My Little Pony/Overwatch situation where people are gonna just reference it to no end with the most annoying memes, and that this movie is being treated as the Second Coming of Christ.

2. I posted an edit explaining how I thought at a glance it looked like it was spelled correctly.

3. You make it out as if I think the entire Human Race has this stance, no I just think a sizable portion prefers this sort of movie from the amount of reviewers and comments I have seen.

4. My opinion, I think this movie looks utterly lame, its the same kind of regurgitated movie I have seen before in older kids movies like Shrek but with Merchandising.

Samtemdo8:
And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irreverent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

Yes, because something that is lighthearted can't take things seriously, and things that are serious can't have a bit of fun with itself. Who wants a bit of balance in their entertainment anyway, right?

No I would have said the samething if was Zootopia (because the praise its getting is overshadowing the masterpieces of the Renissance and Golden and Silver Era of Disney Animation)

Or silly Manga like One-Punch Man overshadowing brilliantely written Manga like Lone Wolf and Cub.

You mean to say entertainment that was released to a positive reception just a few years ago is fresher in people's memory and thus more eagerly discussed than entertainment that's 20 years or older? Who'da thunk.

Samtemdo8:

1. Mostly internet, but with people I am familiar with like my brother I talk like this to him to, and sometimes with my father. But I see where you are getting at, that me cussing would bother people. I apoligize, I was just venting my frustration that this movie gonna become another Zooptopia/My Little Pony/Overwatch situation where people are gonna just reference it to no end with the most annoying memes, and that this movie is being treated as the Second Coming of Christ.

2. I posted an edit explaining how I thought at a glance it looked like it was spelled correctly.

3. You make it out as if I think the entire Human Race has this stance, no I just think a sizable portion prefers this sort of movie from the amount of reviewers and comments I have seen.

4. My opinion, I think this movie looks utterly lame, its the same kind of regurgitated movie I have seen before in older kids movies like Shrek but with Merchandising.

1. I accept your apology
2. I accept your apology
3. You are the one who made the generalization, not me.
4. I do not agree with your opinion. Best of luck

Casual Shinji:

Samtemdo8:
And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irreverent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

Yes, because something that is lighthearted can't take things seriously, and things that are serious can't have a bit of fun with itself. Who wants a bit of balance in their entertainment anyway, right?

No I would have said the samething if was Zootopia (because the praise its getting is overshadowing the masterpieces of the Renissance and Golden and Silver Era of Disney Animation)

Or silly Manga like One-Punch Man overshadowing brilliantely written Manga like Lone Wolf and Cub.

You mean to say entertainment that was released to a positive reception just a few years ago is fresher in people's memory and thus more eagerly discussed than entertainment that's 20 years or older? Who'da thunk.

The Lone Wolf and Cub reference is just an example I could have mentioned something else more recent but Lone Wolf and Cub is all I have in my mind now because its awesome.

I could have mentioned Vagabond or Berserk.

Omey:

Samtemdo8:

1. Mostly internet, but with people I am familiar with like my brother I talk like this to him to, and sometimes with my father. But I see where you are getting at, that me cussing would bother people. I apoligize, I was just venting my frustration that this movie gonna become another Zooptopia/My Little Pony/Overwatch situation where people are gonna just reference it to no end with the most annoying memes, and that this movie is being treated as the Second Coming of Christ.

2. I posted an edit explaining how I thought at a glance it looked like it was spelled correctly.

3. You make it out as if I think the entire Human Race has this stance, no I just think a sizable portion prefers this sort of movie from the amount of reviewers and comments I have seen.

4. My opinion, I think this movie looks utterly lame, its the same kind of regurgitated movie I have seen before in older kids movies like Shrek but with Merchandising.

1. I accept your apology
2. I accept your apology
3. You are the one who made the generalization, not me.
4. I do not agree with your opinion. Best of luck

3. Well let me correct my apperent generalization, From the amount of Internet Comments and Reviewers I have seen I think a sizable portion of people want more lightheartedness and irreverence.

Samtemdo8:
The Lone Wolf and Cub reference is just an example I could have mentioned something else more recent but Lone Wolf and Cub is all I have in my mind now because its awesome.

I could have mentioned Vagabond or Berserk.

Also series that are quite old by now.

And people can like both One Punch-Man and Berserk. Just as they can like both Zootopia and Drive, or Ratchet and Clank and The Witcher 3. Not every piece of media needs to be Hamlet.

And when something is at the height of its popularity people are gonna be talking about it. At the time people where talking about Twin Peaks and then later The Sopranos. Now they're talking about Stranger Things and Rick and Morty. And in 10 years those two shows won't be talked about as much.

Casual Shinji:

Samtemdo8:
The Lone Wolf and Cub reference is just an example I could have mentioned something else more recent but Lone Wolf and Cub is all I have in my mind now because its awesome.

I could have mentioned Vagabond or Berserk.

Also series that are quite old by now.

And people can like both One Punch-Man and Berserk. Just as they can like both Zootopia and Drive, or Ratchet and Clank and The Witcher 3. Not every piece of media needs to be Hamlet.

And when something is at the height of its popularity people are gonna be talking about it. At the time people where talking about Twin Peaks and then later The Sopranos. Now they're talking about Stranger Things and Rick and Morty. And in 10 years those two shows won't be talked about as much.

I just hope many people will talk about Samurai Jack Season 5 enthusiatically. I want the internet people like Nostalgia Critic talking about it.

Samtemdo8:
I just hope many people will talk about Samurai Jack Season 5 enthusiatically. I want the internet people like Nostalgia Critic talking about it.

Yeah, but that's cartoony and colourful, too, so that's instantly lame, right?

Casual Shinji:

Samtemdo8:
I just hope many people will talk about Samurai Jack Season 5 enthusiatically. I want the internet people like Nostalgia Critic talking about it.

Yeah, but that's cartoony and colourful, too, so that's instantly lame, right?

I think the more goofier episodes of Samurai Jack like Jack is Naked is lame.

And prefer the more awesome/badass episodes like Jack vs the 3 Blind Archers.

Ignoring a certain disgrunted person aside, I quite suprised how good (Lego Movie is still better) it was despite how kid friendly it was.
No I wasn't expecting the usual dark and gritty Batman but the way of things, it was kid friendly (like those minor characters helping at the end or how that character pretty much scred her ideal and joined them)! It was kinda like Batman: The Brave And The Bold (such an underrated series) but Batman has some sass to himself!

Samtemdo8:

Kenbo Slice:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irrevenent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

What utter lameness.

You haven't seen it so you can't judge it. I'm excited for all the in-jokes for us comic book fans.

Plus this movie just looks fun, unlike the rest of DC's recent film output.

I don't want fun, I want drama, I want stakes, I want to have care for the character, I want the character to bleed on the floor so that thier eventual triumph is all the more glorious and tear inducing.

You want all this... In a LEGO film?

I think you may be barking up the wrong tree here, just a slight hunch.

Caramel Frappe:

Samtemdo8:

Kenbo Slice:

You haven't seen it so you can't judge it. I'm excited for all the in-jokes for us comic book fans.

Plus this movie just looks fun, unlike the rest of DC's recent film output.

I don't want fun, I want drama, I want stakes, I want to have care for the character, I want the character to bleed on the floor so that thier eventual triumph is all the more glorious and tear inducing.

I don't think you should expect that kind of drama when going into The LEGO Batman movie lmao. That'd be like me walking into Star Wars: Rogue One and going "Where's the sex, the decapitations, the f bombs?! Where is it?!" Now do know, I get where you're coming from. I would say Dark Knight and a select few other hero movies have exactly what you're looking for (if you haven't seen Daredevil the TV series, do see that. It's exactly what you want) but yeah, you're not going to find any of that stuff in this movie mate.

OT: Didn't expect the movie to be this great. Like I can see why people love LEGOs and all, and I loved the first LEGO's movie ... but to see another movie hit every nail in being awesome- actually makes me smile. I'm definitely seeing this, and i'm glad the movie has enough self awareness to not get too serious like the previous Batman movies.

Its not the fact that its Lego, its the fact that its Batman, I don't like Batman being treated as a joke anymore than he already is.

I mean people mocked him for f#$%ing Batgirl in the Animated Killing Joke and the whole Martha thing, but this Lego-fication of him just demeans him even more than the campy Adam West Batman..

I mean it'd be like if they made Lego Lord of the Rings the Movie, it be even more of a mockery to Tolkien's work than Peter Jackson's adaptions.

Samtemdo8:
I mean it'd be like if they made Lego Lord of the Rings the Movie, it be even more of a mockery to Tolkien's work than Peter Jackson's adaptions.

There's a LEGO Sauron in this movie. And they already made Lego LOTR games.

Well, this turned into a dumpster fire. 0_0

Well, anyway:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

While the trailers haven't appealed to me either, I think it's a bit much to say "I know it's bad" since it's been released.

Samtemdo8:

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irreverent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

While I don't like Deadpool or Guardians either, only "humour" and "colourful" can be used to apply to Zootopia. And I'd hardly call the presence of either to be negative.

I'm not sure how much of that can be applied to Deadpool or Guardians either. I don't like Deadpool because its humour is juvenile (to me). I don't like Guardians because it's a bunch of cliches - cliched heroes fighting a cliched villain with a cliched plan, making for a cliched movie, that revels in its cliches rather than either subverting them, or providing enough meat to make me invested regardless.

Samtemdo8:

No I would have said the samething if was Zootopia (because the praise its getting is overshadowing the masterpieces of the Renissance and Golden and Silver Era of Disney Animation)

...the hell?

I've no idea what the Silver Era of Disney Animation is (the eras go Golden-Dark-Renaissance-Post-Renaissance-Revival, at least by the Disney wiki), but Zootopia overshadowing other Disney films...what?

Okay, the majority the films from the Golden era (Snow White to Jungle Book) can still be found on DVD readily. A number of these films have even been remade. I'd have an easier time arguing that these films overshadow later ones due to the reverence granted to them. The same can be applied for the Renaissance era, whose films can also be found readily, and who are also getting live action remakes.

So, you'll forgive me for thinking it quite logical that a film released in 2016 overshadows these films to any extent at all. And I'd personally put Zootopia over any previous DAC film I've seen, but that's just my opinion.

Samtemdo8:

4. Yes I think things like Zootopia and this Lego Batman movie to be utterly lame.

You've made it clear that you haven't seen the latter, I'm starting to doubt you've seen the former either.

Samtemdo8:

Caramel Frappe:

Samtemdo8:

I don't want fun, I want drama, I want stakes, I want to have care for the character, I want the character to bleed on the floor so that thier eventual triumph is all the more glorious and tear inducing.

I don't think you should expect that kind of drama when going into The LEGO Batman movie lmao. That'd be like me walking into Star Wars: Rogue One and going "Where's the sex, the decapitations, the f bombs?! Where is it?!" Now do know, I get where you're coming from. I would say Dark Knight and a select few other hero movies have exactly what you're looking for (if you haven't seen Daredevil the TV series, do see that. It's exactly what you want) but yeah, you're not going to find any of that stuff in this movie mate.

OT: Didn't expect the movie to be this great. Like I can see why people love LEGOs and all, and I loved the first LEGO's movie ... but to see another movie hit every nail in being awesome- actually makes me smile. I'm definitely seeing this, and i'm glad the movie has enough self awareness to not get too serious like the previous Batman movies.

Its not the fact that its Lego, its the fact that its Batman, I don't like Batman being treated as a joke anymore than he already is.

I mean people mocked him for f#$%ing Batgirl in the Animated Killing Joke and the whole Martha thing, but this Lego-fication of him just demeans him even more than the campy Adam West Batman..

I mean it'd be like if they made Lego Lord of the Rings the Movie, it be even more of a mockery to Tolkien's work than Peter Jackson's adaptions.

I thought the original batman started off as campy fun, and the super grim version came from Alan Moore

And the public seems to have gotten sick of grim dark batman which is why they're liking the fun batman

Caramel Frappe:

I don't think you should expect that kind of drama when going into The LEGO Batman movie lmao. That'd be like me walking into Star Wars: Rogue One and going "Where's the sex, the decapitations, the f bombs?! Where is it?!"

Well, sex is in fanfiction. People ship Jyn and Cassian for some reason. 0_0

Samtemdo8:

I mean it'd be like if they made Lego Lord of the Rings the Movie, it be even more of a mockery to Tolkien's work than Peter Jackson's adaptions.

...says the person who has Peter Jackson's Arragorn as an avatar?

Seriously Sam, I can relate to some of what you're saying (don't like Guardians or Deadpool, I prefer films like Dark Knight to Deadpool, Guardians, etc.), but this is coming off less as a a discussion and more as a "Lego Batman is bad, because I say it's bad, despite having only seen the trailers." Even I could scale back and say, at most, "the Lego Batman movie looks terrible." Key word on "looks."

Hawki:
Well, this turned into a dumpster fire. 0_0

Well, anyway:

Samtemdo8:
Of course you think its the best Batman movie in years.

Bu to me the trailers gave me everything I need to know that its the most saccharine piece of shit I have seen.

While the trailers haven't appealed to me either, I think it's a bit much to say "I know it's bad" since it's been released.

Samtemdo8:

And its not alone, its on par with other shit like Zootopia, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Deadpool that this current movie going public care about:

"Retro, Self-Aware, Irreverent, Humor, Colorful, don't take shit too seriously"

While I don't like Deadpool or Guardians either, only "humour" and "colourful" can be used to apply to Zootopia. And I'd hardly call the presence of either to be negative.

I'm not sure how much of that can be applied to Deadpool or Guardians either. I don't like Deadpool because its humour is juvenile (to me). I don't like Guardians because it's a bunch of cliches - cliched heroes fighting a cliched villain with a cliched plan, making for a cliched movie, that revels in its cliches rather than either subverting them, or providing enough meat to make me invested regardless.

Samtemdo8:

No I would have said the samething if was Zootopia (because the praise its getting is overshadowing the masterpieces of the Renissance and Golden and Silver Era of Disney Animation)

...the hell?

I've no idea what the Silver Era of Disney Animation is (the eras go Golden-Dark-Renaissance-Post-Renaissance-Revival, at least by the Disney wiki), but Zootopia overshadowing other Disney films...what?

Okay, the majority the films from the Golden era (Snow White to Jungle Book) can still be found on DVD readily. A number of these films have even been remade. I'd have an easier time arguing that these films overshadow later ones due to the reverence granted to them. The same can be applied for the Renaissance era, whose films can also be found readily, and who are also getting live action remakes.

So, you'll forgive me for thinking it quite logical that a film released in 2016 overshadows these films to any extent at all. And I'd personally put Zootopia over any previous DAC film I've seen, but that's just my opinion.

Samtemdo8:

4. Yes I think things like Zootopia and this Lego Batman movie to be utterly lame.

You've made it clear that you haven't seen the latter, I'm starting to doubt you've seen the former either.

Its called CinemaSins, the guy practically shows entire movies, or at the very least shows all the parts that matters.

I personally deem the Silver Age of Disney movies to be this:

From Cinderella to Sleeping Beauty was the Silver Age.

From Snow White to Bambi was the Golden Age.

Samtemdo8:

Its called CinemaSins, the guy practically shows entire movies, or at the very least shows all the parts that matters.

CinemaSins finds fault with every movie that's ever existed, regardless of quality. His tagline is "no film is without sin," and the majority of "sins" are nitpicks. If you used CinemaSins as an indicator of a film's quality, then almost every film ever would be a piece of crap.

Seriously, if I said "x is bad," and people asked me why, and I said "because CinemaSins said so," I'd be laughed off the stage (or forums, or wherever I am).

So, I'm guessing that you haven't seen Zootopia or Lego Batman, so unless that changes, well, forgive me for not giving that opinion as much credence as I would for others that have seen it. Not that I'll probably see the latter anyway, but I can at least be honest about that.

Hawki:

Caramel Frappe:

I don't think you should expect that kind of drama when going into The LEGO Batman movie lmao. That'd be like me walking into Star Wars: Rogue One and going "Where's the sex, the decapitations, the f bombs?! Where is it?!"

Well, sex is in fanfiction. People ship Jyn and Cassian for some reason. 0_0

Samtemdo8:

I mean it'd be like if they made Lego Lord of the Rings the Movie, it be even more of a mockery to Tolkien's work than Peter Jackson's adaptions.

...says the person who has Peter Jackson's Arragorn as an avatar?

Seriously Sam, I can relate to some of what you're saying (don't like Guardians or Deadpool, I prefer films like Dark Knight to Deadpool, Guardians, etc.), but this is coming off less as a a discussion and more as a "Lego Batman is bad, because I say it's bad, despite having only seen the trailers." Even I could scale back and say, at most, "the Lego Batman movie looks terrible." Key word on "looks."

I like the Lord of the Rings movies (The Two Towers is my favorite)

But still acknowledge its heretical moments. The Whole Arwen dying plot, the portrayal of Frodo as this spinless weakling, Aragorn's portrayal (He was badass in the books eager to be King and had the Sword of Elendil already re-forged in the first book), Gimli downplayed to Comic Relief, and Denethor's charcater being the worse depsite the Extended Edition.

But even than a Lego-fication of Lord of the Rings into this irreverent and campy movie will be the biggest heresy to Tolkien's writiings of all time.

But no one will care because its just a Parody bro, just lighten up and have fun is what they will tell me.

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