Russian Teen Killed Over Counter-Strike

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Russian Teen Killed Over Counter-Strike

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A Russian teenager is headed to the big house after murdering his friend over a game of Counter-Strike gone horribly wrong.

Alexander, a 14-year-old teenager, met 17-year-old Alexei at a Novosibirsk cyber café for a brisk, booze-fueled night of one-on-one Counter-Strike. The younger boy apparently got his ass kicked rather badly over the course of the evening and he didn't take it very well; "several fights" between the two had to be broken up by café staff. Nonetheless, the duo kept drinking and playing until Alexander finally decided he'd had enough and left.

He wasn't finished with Alexei, however, and when the older teen finally left the café at 3 am, Alexander and another friend were waiting for him. According to the website of the Novosibirsk Prosecutor's Office (Google translated), Alexander "inflicted multiple blows with hands and feet to the torso and head, from which the victim fell to the ground." At that point he began to jump on the victim's chest and kick him repeatedly; Alexei died on the scene as a result of the beating.

Alexander and his friend "half-buried" the body, which was discovered the next morning. In court, the teen claimed that his friend wasn't involved in either the killing or the attempted disposal of the body - apparently he just stood around and watched, which I guess is okay in Russia - and was eventually found guilty of "intentional infliction of grievous bodily harm" and sentenced to four years confinement in a juvenile prison.

Vodka, idiot teenagers, smack-talk run amok... There's probably a lesson to be learned in there somewhere but I just can't put my finger on it. I do wonder, however, why café staff didn't bounce both of them when they first started fighting. If they weren't so boozed up they could've beaten the crap out of each other out in the street, spit some teeth and then made their way home more or less intact.

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It is so definitely the game's fault, not the alcohol and/or fierce competetion between two young males with raging hormones.

Yet another reason why I don't drink. That's just sad, in more ways than one...

Erana:
It is so definitely the game's fault, not the alcohol and/or fierce competetion between two young males with raging hormones.

sarcasm, LOL

or do you work for the law offices of Jack Thompson?

well...they are idiots

Err...how can you say the game wasn't involved in this? Obviously the drinking played a bigger role, but the kid was extremely upset in losing to this other guy countless number of times. The game provoked him, and the drinking enabled him. I just think that the game is partially to blame. Its also the cafe's fault for letting fights break out and then letting them continue playing.

Sir_Nolan:

Erana:
It is so definitely the game's fault, not the alcohol and/or fierce competetion between two young males with raging hormones.

sarcasm, LOL

or do you work for the law offices of Jack Thompson?

no its well known that 14 year olds are at the perfect age to not be affected by alcohol in any way, also its in that one year that any mental illnesses also have no affect

*Chuckles* Maybe he was a team killer, and the friend who murdered him felt he should experience an actual "team killing" to see what it feels like. It says in the article that the kid was getting his ass beat, but honestly, why not just walk over to the friend and muss their controller up Cruisn' USA arcade style? Or give them an extra foot like a DDR player?

Not that it condones the action, but, well...*Blinks*

Other than it being funny, I can't think of anything else to say about it.

Oh the media is going to be all over this crap.

I think my Avatar goes perfect with this thread :)

And this is why kids shouldn't drink

Erana:
It is so definitely the game's fault, not the alcohol and/or fierce competetion between two young males with raging hormones.

Well said. I have a horrible feeling this is going to be the next stage of the media's "video games cause murder" crusade, even though the two of them were apparently very drunk, which just possibly might have had more to do with the guy getting beaten to death.

Also, guilty of "intentional infliction of grievous bodily harm"? He killed the guy! He tried to bury the body! Just because he's 14 doesn't mean he should get let off the hook for that!

4 years behind bars for murder? I would expect at least 10-15 years not just 4. Well, I guess when you commit murder in Russia, you show everyone how tough you are and the russians want everyone to believe that they are not to be F***ed around with.

Malygris:
If they weren't so boozed up they could've beaten the crap out of each other out in the street, spit some teeth and then made their way home more or less intact.

This is a serious question Malygris, even though it sounds silly. Have you ever actually encountered a drunk angry Russian before?

Even if they were teenagers I don't think the Cafe's staff will have wanted those boy's anger directed at them, although they might hire bouncers now.

Mr.Pandah:
Err...how can you say the game wasn't involved in this? Obviously the drinking played a bigger role, but the kid was extremely upset in losing to this other guy countless number of times. The game provoked him, and the drinking enabled him.

I think you can safely say that the game had little to do with this situation because in replacing it with any other competitive activity, it's very probable that the same situation would have occurred. The other factors (drinking, mind set, youth, getting your ass beat) were more important to contributing to the outcome than the game itself. The could have easily been bowling or having a coloring contest.

ckeymel:

Mr.Pandah:
Err...how can you say the game wasn't involved in this? Obviously the drinking played a bigger role, but the kid was extremely upset in losing to this other guy countless number of times. The game provoked him, and the drinking enabled him.

I think you can safely say that the game had little to do with this situation because in replacing it with any other competitive activity, it's very probable that the same situation would have occurred. The other factors (drinking, mind set, youth, getting your ass beat) were more important to contributing to the outcome than the game itself. The could have easily been bowling or having a coloring contest.

Yes, (this isn't your fault since I edited my post to actually flesh out what I thought) but I think that its more of the fault of the cafe as well. It very well could've been bowling, but then again...why would they be bowling together? O.o

Well...

I guess the moral of this story is to not mix alcohol and Counter-Strike?

Other than that, it seems like another pointless murder...kinda sad, really.

in Soviet Russia, everything kills you! =D

Only in Russia can we blame the alcohol and not the video game.

my friend always warned me about shit like this -__-

Mr.Pandah:
Err...how can you say the game wasn't involved in this? Obviously the drinking played a bigger role, but the kid was extremely upset in losing to this other guy countless number of times. The game provoked him, and the drinking enabled him. I just think that the game is partially to blame. Its also the cafe's fault for letting fights break out and then letting them continue playing.

Yeah but I'd say that's more competition and a sore loser.
This story would probably end up the same if they got hammered and played tiddlywinks for hours.
Obviously one couldnt take losing, got too wasted to know what he was doing and took things too far.

Edit: Ninja'd ^

Well, I would say that I don't get homicidal when drinking and getting my ass handed to me in Rock Band/Guitar Hero, and that it's because it's a game about killing people that the guy was killed over it, but that's not exactly fair. I think that war games tend to attract the homicidal alcoholics who can't just brush off losing (moreso than Rock Band, anyway), and I blame this fact.

They still play counterstrike in russia?

A kid that young should not have been drinking and why the hell would anyone, regardless of age, kill someone else over a game, I understand punching someone in the face (I did it once over a game of Mario cart Double Dash, and I was sober but that bastard just kept getting the 3 red shells!!11!!!1!!!!1!)
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well, if this happened in America everyone would be blaming the school system or the economy or the government

So I will do the same, its because of the Russian government and their school system and their economy

...let the hate responses roll in...

they let a 14 year old drink, I mean yeah maybe an ecception for the 17 year old but 14... too soon

This is why online games should be viewed as JUST A GAME, not a lifestyle or anything SERIOUS..

I wish I could say I am surprised but having gone to lancenters and played CS this kind of behavior isn't that uncommon. One guy flipped a bitch because someone one shot him with the magnum sniper rifle and went up and down the aisles till he found the guy who did it. They didn't even throw him out for starting the fight and this is here in the States yet I almost got thrown out for calling someone a name for TKing on purpose. Le Sigh.

Jebus

Mr.Pandah:
Err...how can you say the game wasn't involved in this? Obviously the drinking played a bigger role, but the kid was extremely upset in losing to this other guy countless number of times. The game provoked him, and the drinking enabled him. I just think that the game is partially to blame. Its also the cafe's fault for letting fights break out and then letting them continue playing.

So if they had been playing boggle before one slew the other? I'd be boggles fault? Maybe just don't serve alcohol to 14 year olds and this might be avoided.

Here's the moral of the story

Games don't kill people, idiotic evil people kill people

And the stick gets another inch.

bue519:

Mr.Pandah:
Err...how can you say the game wasn't involved in this? Obviously the drinking played a bigger role, but the kid was extremely upset in losing to this other guy countless number of times. The game provoked him, and the drinking enabled him. I just think that the game is partially to blame. Its also the cafe's fault for letting fights break out and then letting them continue playing.

So if they had been playing boggle before one slew the other? I'd be boggles fault? Maybe just don't serve alcohol to 14 year olds and this might be avoided.

I never said it was the games violent tone that drove the boy to kill. I just said that the game played a role in the other kid's death. Of course if they'd been playing boggle or trouble or candyland the other kid might have wound up dead still. Thats not the point though, it was the competitive edge of the game that provoked the kid, and the drinking and cafe that enabled him. I'm not completely blaming the game, please read my post. =/

At least that kid didn't AWP the other kid. AWPing is so mean.

The media likes to focus exclusively on one reason for violent acts.
This trend tries to oversimplify complex issues and problems.
It's interesting that alcohol isn't mentioned in the title.

Was there suspected mental instability, or did just the fact he was a youth
and drunk reduce his sentence to 4 years?
(I couldn't find anything pointing to that conclusion after reading the article.)

Also, why was the 14 year old teenager allowed to drink alcohol in public at all?

Shit, I always own my friend at Counter-Strike.

*locks door*

Iori35:
The media likes to focus exclusively on one reason for violent acts.
This trend tries to oversimplify complex issues and problems.
It's interesting that alcohol isn't mentioned in the title.

Was there suspected mental instability, or did just the fact he was a youth
and drunk reduce his sentence to 4 years?
(I couldn't find anything pointing to that conclusion after reading the article.)

Also, why was the 14 year old teenager allowed to drink alcohol in public at all?

You think there a drinking age in Russia? If you can see over the bar you can drink. Which as we can see will have some dangerous results. I just wish his sentence was higher, I mean he did stomp a man to death.

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