ESRB Rating Forces Cleavage-Filled Game's Cancellation

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ESRB Rating Forces Cleavage-Filled Game's Cancellation

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Ikki Tousen: Shining Dragon, a beat-em-up in which scantily clad female college students unleash moves that shred up their opponents' clothes, was rated M by the ESRB, leading publisher Valcon Games to halt plans to bring the game to the US.

If you thought Street Fighter's Sakura had the market cornered on panty shots in videogames, you obviously haven't heard of Ikki Tousen: Shining Dragon for the PS2. In this brawler, short-skirted and busty female college students do battle with one another, resulting in a barrage of panty shots as high kicks are thrown as well as plenty other sights for naughty boys to see.

The most unique feature? Something called "battle damage," which is really just a euphemism for the ability to use moves that, as the ESRB says in its product description, allow "some characters to rip opponents' clothes to shreds - exposing even more of the female anatomy (legs, breasts, partial buttocks)."

The ESRB slapped a big fat M for Mature rating on Ikki Tousen, which evidently forced publisher Valcon Games to put an end to all plans to bring the game to the US.

"A number of factors really hurt our options with that game. The biggest problem being that it received an M rating from the ESRB," Colin Goron of Valcon said. "We could remove all the stuff that makes it an M-rated game, but then we don't think the customers would be very happy buying an Ikki Tousen game without all the shredded clothing..."

The man clearly knows his audience.

So pity poor Ikki Tousen: Shining Dragon. In a world where Dead or Alive games can succeed and something as gratuitous in its over-the-top T&A-worship as Atlus'Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier can make it by with a Teen rating, Ikki Tousen will never get its chance to shine. What harm has a little "battle damage" ever done to society?

[Via Siliconera]

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I'm laughing at the absurdity of this all.

Remember, it's the US. The only western nation that is more sexually oppressed than the Middle East. Where I can blow up the world with blood and guts everywhere and show it on TV, but the instant someone sees a bare ass I have to either digitize it or cut it out of the movie.

Why you would want to have a fighting game feature naked females? Wouldn't it be hard to masturbate while mashing buttons on a controller?

Some how I am not surprised...

Aww another good game ruined by the ESRB. Oh well I guess they did make the right call in the end with the battle system. Swimsuits are okay but a bra and bloomers are not. Also Mr.Goron does know his audience and knows that to get the big sales he has to be able to market the game to the widest audience possible and being outed as an "M" rated title does get sales and might be marked for what is "bad or immoral in the video game industry".

However I do ask this and even Soul calibur 4 did this. Why don't we have more fighting games that support the destruction of clothing? An anime video game cries out for that sort of style and can look great if done well and tastefully. You don't need full on nudity but dammit lets see some shreded clothes or suits.

Keane Ng:
Exposing even more of the female anatomy (legs, breasts, partial buttocks)

Wait so we get full breasts but only partial buttocks?
That sucks.

This game sounds about as fun and memorable as Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad.

It really is lowest common denominator developing, I have to say. I'm unsure of how much work they've put into this game, but I'd be prepared to bet money that they spent more time making sure the clothes shredded properly than actually making it a decent fighting game. It's like the whole jiggle physics thing in DoA games; you can tell they spent inordinate amounts of time and effort making something irrelevant, and, let's be honest, infantile, look good.

I realise that there are people out there who will buy and enjoy this game, but I really don't think people will miss out on much not playing it. For the record, I have no problem with sex and/or nudity in games, so long as it's used tastefully and in a context that makes sense (which is how I feel about it in all forms of media). But here, you can clearly see that it's just done as an attempt to rope in as much money as they can through the promise of digital boobs.

Anachronism:
This game sounds about as fun and memorable as Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad.

It really is lowest common denominator developing, I have to say. I'm unsure of how much work they've put into this game, but I'd be prepared to bet money that they spent more time making sure the clothes shredded properly than actually making it a decent fighting game. It's like the whole jiggle physics thing in DoA games; you can tell they spent inordinate amounts of time and effort making something irrelevant, and, let's be honest, infantile, look good.

I realise that there are people out there who will buy and enjoy this game, but I really don't think people will miss out on much not playing it. For the record, I have no problem with sex and/or nudity in games, so long as it's used tastefully and in a context that makes sense (which is how I feel about it in all forms of media). But here, you can clearly see that it's just done as an attempt to rope in as much money as they can through the promise of digital boobs.

It's based on a manga/anime franchise, so they're really just appealing to the fans more than any lowest common denominator. Of course those fans could be considered that, I suppose.

They stopped it because it got an M rating? We buy plenty of M rated games over in the US. Why stop it?

That being said, the game looked terrible. Also, I'm surprised that the ESRB only gave it an M instead of an AO.

Yeah, this should get a mature. It doesn't even look that good.

asinann:
Remember, it's the US. The only western nation that is more sexually oppressed than the Middle East. Where I can blow up the world with blood and guts everywhere and show it on TV, but the instant someone sees a bare ass I have to either digitize it or cut it out of the movie.

so sad is it nod D:

Internet Kraken:
Why you would want to have a fighting game feature naked females? Wouldn't it be hard to masturbate while mashing buttons on a controller?

Second

asinann:
Remember, it's the US. The only western nation that is more sexually oppressed than the Middle East. Where I can blow up the world with blood and guts everywhere and show it on TV, but the instant someone sees a bare ass I have to either digitize it or cut it out of the movie.

Dude I think you're exaggerating.

Captain Urahara:
They stopped it because it got an M rating? We buy plenty of M rated games over in the US. Why stop it?

That being said, the game looked terrible. Also, I'm surprised that the ESRB only gave it an M instead of an AO.

Actually M rated games do not get as many sales as you think especially without a big marketing advertisement. This game would be easily marked by parents as immoral and put as a weapon against gamers on why kids should not play video games. He did the smart thing.

Also how can you say that that the game is bad? the only picture you and I have seen is the one for the news article and the models are pretty solid constructed. Also who knows what the gameplay is like, for all we know it could be like Bushido Blade or Power Stone a solid fun beat em up with anime characters without the gross imbalance of the Dragonball games.

What they should REALLY do is push through with development, but hike up the content to be worthy of an AO rating, and sell it unrated as a snub to the fucktards at the ESRB.

ElArabDeMagnifico:
I'm laughing at the absurdity of this all.

So am I, but for, presumably, a very different reason.

The second I saw "Ikki Tousen" I instantly thought "They're not bringing the game over, are they? I've seen the anime. A game about it wouldn't fly in the US. Hell, a game about it wouldn't really fly anywhere but Japan. It was all cheescake and fanservice." Yes, I understand those two terms are pretty much interchangible. And then I was right, they're not. For a second though I thought they were, and that's when I started laughing. And then they weren't bringing it over, and it became funnier, because the reason they aren't bringing it over is the only reason anyone woul dever play it.

Also, I'm running on no sleep, so please excuse all really screwed up wording and spelling. I can't find my own mistakes right now with how much my eyes are blurring.

Captain Urahara:
They stopped it because it got an M rating? We buy plenty of M rated games over in the US. Why stop it?

That being said, the game looked terrible. Also, I'm surprised that the ESRB only gave it an M instead of an AO.

These ratings are all arbritrary. I have no respect for the ESRB because they do a shitty job doing what PARENTS should be doing in the first place. Fallout 3 has a mature rating, though, for the lack of nudity, I don't see why it rates worse than a teen. Oblivion got a mature rating AFTER it was released because some guy found the patch to allow breast-shots after market, and THEN they decided to take exception to the whole 'battle in
Hell-world' with zombies. They tack on a mature rating half the time so that some 13-17 year old will pick it up and say 'Wow! Blood and boobies!'

This is the legacy of Tipper Gore and the Parental Advisory Board. The whole thing was concieved so fat middle class parents didn't have to get up from their home shopping networks and phone-chatting girlfriends and their starbucks to spend time with their children and show any interest in their lives. They could look for the little black letter and make a snap decision right there trusting this ESRB to know what's good for their kids better than they do.

Case in point. I am lucky enough to have an eight-year-old daughter. One of her favorite movies is Hear No Evil, See No Evil. If you haven't seen it, it's a comedy with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder, with as much swearing in it as you can expect from Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder. But I let my girl see it, with it's swearing and it's nudity. I think that's not such a big deal as my daughter knows what would happen if I ever caught her using that language around me or her friends at school.

Tenmar:

Captain Urahara:
They stopped it because it got an M rating? We buy plenty of M rated games over in the US. Why stop it?

That being said, the game looked terrible. Also, I'm surprised that the ESRB only gave it an M instead of an AO.

Actually M rated games do not get as many sales as you think especially without a big marketing advertisement. This game would be easily marked by parents as immoral and put as a weapon against gamers on why kids should not play video games. He did the smart thing.

Also how can you say that that the game is bad? the only picture you and I have seen is the one for the news article and the models are pretty solid constructed. Also who knows what the gameplay is like, for all we know it could be like Bushido Blade or Power Stone a solid fun beat em up with anime characters without the gross imbalance of the Dragonball games.

The official website has gameplay. And it looks like shit. Everything is just an excuse to have these little creatures called 'females' fight each other and rip their clothes off.

The models look ridiculous.

Noooooooooo!!

Well I checked the Shining Dragon link, I cannot understand Japanese nor will attempt to try so I clicked the little gold emblem thingy towards the bottom. It led to a gallery, about 12 only slightly gratuitous, nothing to go wild about.

Edit: Just watched a gameplay video don't ask, panty shots and some boobage that's about it.

...wait, what? It got rated "M", and they figured that was a killing blow? Maybe if it was rated "AO", but this is just dumb...

Maybe they can solve this problem by just not making pointless, perverted games like this in the first place.

SageOfCalm:

asinann:
Remember, it's the US. The only western nation that is more sexually oppressed than the Middle East. Where I can blow up the world with blood and guts everywhere and show it on TV, but the instant someone sees a bare ass I have to either digitize it or cut it out of the movie.

Dude I think you're exaggerating.

Not really, i hate the FCC

Keane Ng:

Anachronism:
It really is lowest common denominator developing, I have to say.

It's based on a manga/anime franchise, so they're really just appealing to the fans more than any lowest common denominator. Of course those fans could be considered that, I suppose.

Hey-OHHH!!!

Keane Ng:

It's based on a manga/anime franchise, so they're really just appealing to the fans more than any lowest common denominator. Of course those fans could be considered that, I suppose.

The anime is terrible, so you would be right. Ashamedly, I bought the first DVD many a year back. It's still boxed away in the loft to this day, forever eating away at my conscience.

It's hardly surprising the game isn't exactly the height of sophistication then...

The game looks crap anyway (the home of porn is the internet, what more do you need?), I don't really care.

Internet Kraken:
Why you would want to have a fighting game feature naked females? Wouldn't it be hard to masturbate while mashing buttons on a controller?

You obviously haven't had enough practice. :)

SageOfCalm:

asinann:
Remember, it's the US. The only western nation that is more sexually oppressed than the Middle East. Where I can blow up the world with blood and guts everywhere and show it on TV, but the instant someone sees a bare ass I have to either digitize it or cut it out of the movie.

Dude I think you're exaggerating.

Sadly, if anything, it would be an understatement. There would also by an outcry from mothers everywhere, demanding that the government come up with a pill that can let things be unseen.

And a politician in Texas trying to make a law about women in video games.

SageOfCalm:

asinann:
Remember, it's the US. The only western nation that is more sexually oppressed than the Middle East. Where I can blow up the world with blood and guts everywhere and show it on TV, but the instant someone sees a bare ass I have to either digitize it or cut it out of the movie.

Dude I think you're exaggerating.

Maybe a little. Sure, what asinann said never happened, but as some examples of our sexual opression that treats it as worse than violence I'll give you two examples. Mass Effect stirred up tons of controversy because of a 5 second long non-explicit sex scene because of a bare ass, and you could be a dick in that game, sure they didn't get an AO rating because of it, but god dammit did you see the anger twoards it? As for a closer example, GTA SA got an AO rating for the PC because if you're a hacker you could get a sex scene, and in this game you have to be a dick and sometimes shoot civillians for fun. I think a hacked sex scene< or equal to a second of bare ass so, asinann was right.

Panzer_God:

SageOfCalm:

asinann:
Remember, it's the US. The only western nation that is more sexually oppressed than the Middle East. Where I can blow up the world with blood and guts everywhere and show it on TV, but the instant someone sees a bare ass I have to either digitize it or cut it out of the movie.

Dude I think you're exaggerating.

Not really, i hate the FCC

It's no exaggeration, FUCK the FCC! Those assholes stood together and the thing they said made them qualified to judge what is and is not decent was the fact that they're parents. NOT because they knew psychology, NOT because they knew drama or comedy or the history thereof, and NOT because they had made any moral achievments before hand. They make the rules from the, "what will keep my kid out of my hair the longest, without them coming to me asking uncomfortable questions" basis.

nothing wrong with this getting an M rating. the problem isnt with the rating its with the stores that automaticaly wont sell any game with an M rating.

im not against games like this at all, but i dont see that we need to sell something like it to 12-14 year olds either. atleast not without their parents consent.

taking the nudity out of ikki tousen will leave with nothing. that is all it got going for it.

Yeah, Ikki Tousen is just fanservice from the ground up, soo..

asinann:
Remember, it's the US. The only western nation that is more sexually oppressed than the Middle East. Where I can blow up the world with blood and guts everywhere and show it on TV, but the instant someone sees a bare ass I have to either digitize it or cut it out of the movie.

When comparing to countries that kill you if you walk outside without a male sibling or are not completely covered in a garbage bag, US is a nest of liberals.

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