FOX to Recast Futurama

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MCGT:
Did anyone else know that the voice actor for Hermes and Vamp from MGS is the same guy? Thought that was really weird when I found out.

Yea, Its Phil Lamarr. He's also The Baron and the really fat guy who's name has abandoned me from Jak 2, and He's the Pain from MGS3.

Edit: Fat guy's name is Krew.

Great. Just great. Thanks for RUINING yet another show for me, FOX. Assholes.

Well I'm sure the voice-actors might want to move onto something else, y'know?

Also, if they asked for too much money, there's nothing really to be done about it.
Why is everyone blaming FOX? I mean, are they just supposed to shell out as much money as the cast asks for? That's just silly, not to mention, bad business.

God, is there like a place we can petition!

xmetatr0nx:
Well there is always Comedy Central for the re-runs.

And the internet obviously.

The infamous SCAMola:
And cue Captain Picard Facepalm de-motivators...

One for Fox and the other one for anyone who thinks this is a good idea. (Mainly Fox)

If they were going to do this, then why didn't they just do a spin-off?

TheTygerfire:
Fox, you'll lose more money by NOT paying them, as no one is going to watch now that nearly 100% of the main cast is gone.

Congratulations, you are a better businessman than a major corporation. A retarded one, granted, but a major corporation.

Seriously, firing Billy West who does the voices of a lot of the characters including the main character and John DiMaggio who voices Bender? Gentlemen, grab your Guy Fawkes masks and cheesy British 80's pop music, we have some protesting to do.

If memory serves, those boobs at FOX are responsible for screwing the pooch with shows like 'Firefly', so it honestly doesn't surprise me to see this happen.
It does, however, anger me. Very much so.
They won't get the (admittedly great) guest voice actors to step in for the old cast (I mean, Frank Welker most likely has bigger projects in the pipeline), and without folks like West, DiMaggio, LaMarche, LaMarr and MacNeille... this show is dead and gone.

Skizle:
they could just cut FOX News funding to meet the salary demands, Futurama will make more money than FOX News im sure

But if they followed your advice we'd lose one of our greatest live action comedies. Futurama's great and your measure would probably be worth it, but could you suggest a less drastic course of action?

I won't be watching it, that's for sure.

So disappointing.

To Quote "The Farnsworth Parabox"

Gold Bender: We're DOOMED!
Silver and Gold Bender: DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

They forked over 100 million to Macfarlane when they un-canceled him.

I don't know anyone who has heard of the re-cast who still want to see these new Futuramas. Fox really played themselves, big-time.

Time to break out the Vader:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!

nilcypher:

While replacing these talented actors will be difficult, the show must go on."

I don't see how it won't... I mean do the voice actors write the script for the show? Don't the writers do that? I think its more important to make sure its still the same writers.

You guys are ridiculously emotional about this. You realize there are people out there who can do amazing impressions right?

I remember seeing a guy on Late Night who did impressions of all the male characters of Family Guy. Real spot on!

NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Why FOX? Why? I know! Let's start an internet petition! That always works.....

I love Futurama, but this is going to be terrible.

NOOOO!!! im going to miss bender

The only characters I'm scared for a Zoidberg Fry and Bender. Other than that I guess I can understand. But then again pokemon recasted Ash so maybe someone somewhere will get over ditching Biily West.

Therumancer:
Well, I have mixed opinions about Futurama.

I will say that immediatly jumping on Fox might not be the right move since we're not in possession of all the information. For example how much are these new Salary demands, especially in comparison with what they were getting paid? Plus despite all the fans one has to weigh that in comparison with what the show is making. How much are people willing to pay/bid fo an ad spot during Futurama?

The cost to produce shows has to be weighed by the amount of money that can be made by advertising/sponsorship. A lot of shows don't make it/get cancelled by simply being too expensive to produce. This is also why a lot of good shows never get picked up. This can revolve around FX, paying the actors, or other factors.

Allegedly Star Trek lasted a very long time despite claims that the networks were losing money on it. The basic claim being that they kept it alive for the fans, despite the cost to produce the episodes/pay the cast being higher than they could get from advertisers. Tie in products/promotions/etc... seeing a vast amount of the money but also seeing it split up a lot of differant ways. I use this as an example simply because of the claims over the years.

You can't keep too many things around that way due to raw love, and it takes a special kind of investment to have networks and producers find ways to contrive to make something profitable (or at least break even) so they can do it, as opposed to make money.

Fururama isn't anything like that I don't believe, and it seems to be a fight between the Network and the cast. Basically the Network feels they can make money off the show, and like it enough to want to keep it around, BUT you've got the cast demanding more money than they ever have before and apparently enough to be an issue.

Without hearing what their demands are, it's hard to say whether we should be yelling at Fox to pay them, or sticking our collective fan-worn boots up the rear of the voice actors for being a group of greedy putzs.

I mean look at it this way, the guy who does Zoidberg is funny (even if I don't watch it that often), but if the dude is like saying that it's not enough for him to have a brand new Lamborgini, but he wants his own personal private jet as well (or whatever, it's probably not that exagerrated) I'm not entirely sure I'd be screaming "Greed" at Fox.

>>>----Therumancer--->

True, but I think most people would rather have them not produce it if they don't have the original cast. They want to keep the integrity of the show alive.

Also, I've seen two of your posts now, and I'd hate to be mean, but there is a reason the Escapist doesn't allow for signatures. Adding your own to the end of every post just seems a little rude, no?

hansari:

nilcypher:

While replacing these talented actors will be difficult, the show must go on."

I don't see how it won't... I mean do the voice actors write the script for the show? Don't the writers do that? I think its more important to make sure its still the same writers.

You guys are ridiculously emotional about this. You realize there are people out there who can do amazing impressions right?

I remember seeing a guy on Late Night who did impressions of all the male characters of Family Guy. Real spot on!

...That was Seth MacFarlane...

Wow I love it when the entire story isn't reported. I won't blame the posters for expressing their anger at the situation, but you don't understand the entirety of it. Fox isn't just being cheap or anything. Fox is only producing the program, not broadcasting. Futurama will continue to be shown on Comedy Central, meaning that they cannot give it the budget of say Family Guy or American Dad. It is upsetting, but if they say they can't afford the salaries, it means that these voice "actors" are simply asking for too much and care less about the series than those producing it.

If they cant use the same voice actors then they should really ditch the old characters and start again.

I'd rather watch unfamiliar characters in an established universe, than see familiar characters ruined because they lost their vocal counterparts.

But that's not going to happen.
So I'll just STFU and let FOX ruin one of my favourite shows.

A random person:

TheTygerfire:
Fox, you'll lose more money by NOT paying them, as no one is going to watch now that nearly 100% of the main cast is gone.

Congratulations, you are a better businessman than a major corporation. A retarded one, granted, but a major corporation.

Without number we are all just speculating though. If an episode of Futurama cost 100,000 to produce and was only expected to bring in 50,000 in ad revenue, why would any business do that?

Actually a more likely scenario is that, Futurama costs 100,000 to produce and brings in an ad revenue of 120,000, but some crappy new reality dating show can be made for 20,000 and yet still bring in 60,000 in ads. So why they have sold far less ad space they are turning a much better profit on their dollar.

Honestly, your best coarse of action in order to convince Fox to shell out for the original voice actors is to convince them of a greater than expected bottom line. Go buy the DVDs and push up the ratings of re-runs. Otherwise Fox is going to cut their loses, maybe attempt the show with a new cast, but it's more likely they simply can the whole thing all together.

Surely just Cancel Fox News, sack everyone who was ever involved, and you have enough to pay the Futurama guys a million per episode, its a win/win.

Not watching it now.

hansari:

nilcypher:

While replacing these talented actors will be difficult, the show must go on."

I don't see how it won't... I mean do the voice actors write the script for the show? Don't the writers do that? I think its more important to make sure its still the same writers.

You guys are ridiculously emotional about this. You realize there are people out there who can do amazing impressions right?

I remember seeing a guy on Late Night who did impressions of all the male characters of Family Guy. Real spot on!

No it's different. The voice actors made the characters come to life. Changing now is suicide cause the old characters are getting new voices which almost every fan of Futurama will dislike or feel awkward, putting Futurama back on cancelled status.

You canno't replace the voice actors of an already established franchise that has attained cult status.

You cannot replace the whole damn cast at this time. Actually...the whole cast was almost made up of 5 people full time...

Actually...It's better that FOX doesn't even bother to produce the new season, considering the fan backlash at this news. Cancel it now and bring back Firefly...unless you decided to recast them all to.

Mrsnugglesworth:

xmetatr0nx:
Well there is always Cartoon Network for the re-runs.

Exactly.

FOX is so retarded. I can understand changing the Professor, Hermes, and >.< fuck cant remember Asian mars girl.

But Fry, Leela, Bender, and Zoidberg can't be replaced.

fixed, also the professee? What have you been smoking?

/fanboy.

Good news everyone! I can't find the email address of the casting director!

A lot of fans went out and spent their hard earned money on the DVD's in order to support the show. I don't think this is a good way to repay all of those people. The show has also been going strong in syndication. Either this is an elaborate ruse for Comic-Con or something, or just some public posturing that makes both sides look like toddlers.

That is such a retarded move if it's true. Half of Futurama's appeal is the voice actors' brilliant work, how can you replace people like John DiMaggio, Billy West and Maurice LaMarche? If nothing else, it's good to confirm you can count on FOX to shoot itself in the foot every time. Suffice to say I won't be watching any new episodes with a different voice cast, unless they somehow fit in a new voice cast with an all-new character cast (the ending of the last movie certainly left room for re-inventions and such, I thought).

SuperMse:

Therumancer:
Well, I have mixed opinions about Futurama.

I will say that immediatly jumping on Fox might not be the right move since we're not in possession of all the information. For example how much are these new Salary demands, especially in comparison with what they were getting paid? Plus despite all the fans one has to weigh that in comparison with what the show is making. How much are people willing to pay/bid fo an ad spot during Futurama?

The cost to produce shows has to be weighed by the amount of money that can be made by advertising/sponsorship. A lot of shows don't make it/get cancelled by simply being too expensive to produce. This is also why a lot of good shows never get picked up. This can revolve around FX, paying the actors, or other factors.

Allegedly Star Trek lasted a very long time despite claims that the networks were losing money on it. The basic claim being that they kept it alive for the fans, despite the cost to produce the episodes/pay the cast being higher than they could get from advertisers. Tie in products/promotions/etc... seeing a vast amount of the money but also seeing it split up a lot of differant ways. I use this as an example simply because of the claims over the years.

You can't keep too many things around that way due to raw love, and it takes a special kind of investment to have networks and producers find ways to contrive to make something profitable (or at least break even) so they can do it, as opposed to make money.

Fururama isn't anything like that I don't believe, and it seems to be a fight between the Network and the cast. Basically the Network feels they can make money off the show, and like it enough to want to keep it around, BUT you've got the cast demanding more money than they ever have before and apparently enough to be an issue.

Without hearing what their demands are, it's hard to say whether we should be yelling at Fox to pay them, or sticking our collective fan-worn boots up the rear of the voice actors for being a group of greedy putzs.

I mean look at it this way, the guy who does Zoidberg is funny (even if I don't watch it that often), but if the dude is like saying that it's not enough for him to have a brand new Lamborgini, but he wants his own personal private jet as well (or whatever, it's probably not that exagerrated) I'm not entirely sure I'd be screaming "Greed" at Fox.

>>>----Therumancer--->

True, but I think most people would rather have them not produce it if they don't have the original cast. They want to keep the integrity of the show alive.

Also, I've seen two of your posts now, and I'd hate to be mean, but there is a reason the Escapist doesn't allow for signatures. Adding your own to the end of every post just seems a little rude, no?

Valid point on the signature, it's been mentioned before. I tend to type it by reflex whenever I end a message and sometimes "forget" not to do it. I've edited a number of messages after the fact to remove it. Apologies to those that it upsets, I am working on correcting the reflex, but it's not as easy at it might sound.

No macro involved I actually bang that out.

That's the biggest dick move I've ever heard of. If Fox is seriously planning on doing this, then they may as well cancel the return of Futurama, I like my Zap Brannigan how it is, thankyou very much.

are they going to add a conservative spin to it?

NOOOOOO!

I'm gonna miss John Di Maggio.

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