Bungie Close to a Deal for Hush-Hush New Project

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Bungie Close to a Deal for Hush-Hush New Project

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Bungie says it is "close" to signing a deal to publish its new, secret non-Halo game but while it's not revealing any names at this point, Bethesda's Ashley Cheng says there are very few publishers who will be able to afford it.

Lars Bakken, the multiplayer designer on Halo 3, told Eurogamer that the company should know "sometime soon" who is going to handle its new project, which remains under closely-guarded wraps. "I don't handle these things, but I'd imagine we're going to know way before we make the public announcement of who's handling that!" he said. "But sure, I think those talks are, I guess, close."

Bungie split from long-time collaborator Microsoft in October 2007, although a publishing deal for future Halo games remained in place. That agreement apparently encompasses the upcoming Halo 3: ODST and Halo: Reach but the future is murky beyond that and Ashley Cheng, production director at Bethesda Softworks, said he thinks the two games will mark the end of Bungie's current relationship with Microsoft. Even so, he added, only a small handful of existing publishers will have the resources to take on the studio's next project.

"I suspect Bungie only owes Microsoft two more games and they're done. Halo ODST and Reach and that's that. No more Halo for Bungie," he wrote on his blog. "You can count on one hand the number of publishers around who can afford to publish Bungie's next game: EA (via EA Partners), Activision, Ubisoft, Microsoft, and of course, Bethesda. I can only imagine how much it will cost to snag their next title."

He mentioned one other interesting, albeit extremely unlikely, possibility as well. "There is one more publisher who could get into the game: Sony. That would be interesting," he added.

Halo 3: ODST is scheduled for release on September 22 while Halo: Reach is expected to land sometime in late 2010.

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After hearing this news, I can't help but give Bungie some props. Good for them, getting out of Microsoft's greedy hands so that they can try something new. That's what all developers SHOULD be doing.

HardRockSamurai:
After hearing this news, I can't help but give Bungie some props. Good for them, getting out of Microsoft's greedy hands so that they can try something new. That's what all developers SHOULD be doing.

They left Microsoft MONTHS ago. You're VERY late to the party, and all of the above are just as "greedy".

As long as it's on Xbox 360, I don't care. :P

Bungie makes good games, so I'm curious to see what this big-budget title is. My personal bet is that EA or Microsoft will pick it up. Sony is a potential candidate: they might be inspired to grab it after seeing the success Microsoft had with partnering with them. Then you have Ubisoft/Activision, and Bethseda (I doubt Bethseda will pick it up, but hey, I could be wrong.)

Psychosocial:

HardRockSamurai:
After hearing this news, I can't help but give Bungie some props. Good for them, getting out of Microsoft's greedy hands so that they can try something new. That's what all developers SHOULD be doing.

They left Microsoft MONTHS ago. You're VERY late to the party, and all of the above are just as "greedy".

As long as it's on Xbox 360, I don't care. :P

Actually, I was referring to the TWO GAMES Bungie still owes Microsoft; I knew that they split up ages ago.

Also, did you consider that their "new game" MIGHT NOT BE on the 360?

I'm really looking forward to this. Bungie is a great developer, I can't wait to see what new ideas they can come up with.

HardRockSamurai:

Also, did you consider that their "new game" MIGHT NOT BE on the 360?

well i think it might be a bit of a bad move for bungie to completely abandon the 360... i mean, most of bungies fans are 360 owners, and while that may just pretain to the Halo franchis, i think alot of halo fans would get bungies new game just because it has bungie's name on it. and as for going exclusively sony... something tells me that wont happen. Bungie may not have forgotten how sony showed them the door the first time around (though at the same time it might just stand to use the same reasoning for them going exclusively sony...)

I just hope they dont abandon us 360 owners.... that would suck.

HardRockSamurai:

Psychosocial:

HardRockSamurai:
After hearing this news, I can't help but give Bungie some props. Good for them, getting out of Microsoft's greedy hands so that they can try something new. That's what all developers SHOULD be doing.

They left Microsoft MONTHS ago. You're VERY late to the party, and all of the above are just as "greedy".

As long as it's on Xbox 360, I don't care. :P

Actually, I was referring to the TWO GAMES Bungie still owes Microsoft; I knew that they split up ages ago.

Also, did you consider that their "new game" MIGHT NOT BE on the 360?

Hence why I said, "as long as it's on the Xbox 360, I don't care" ;)

But I'd say that Bungie would have to be fools to abandon the Xbox 360 now, they have all of their fans, so to say, on that console, and they have experience using it.

scotth266:
Bungie makes good games...

They haven't made a good game since Oni =\.

I know it's a figure for public hate round here, but i would be upset of they stopped making halo games, it's just a staple now, and i find it hard to believe anyone would stop making something sooooo successful

*Yawns*

Let me be honest, to begin with it was kind of interesting when companies started dancing around with "do nothing" press annoucements to generate hype and get more eyes focused on them. However I'm jaded to the whole thing and it actually hits my gag reflex nowadays more than anything. If information isn't substantial it's not even worth reporting, and I think the gaming industry press should start filtering crud like this.

Oh yeah "Well we have a project we're working on, but we can't tell you what it is, we have absolutly no publisher but we are probably going to get one soon, but we're being picky in pimping outselves out since we want gazillions of dollars for whatever we decide to do because well... we're famous for Halo". Of course given that while they broke from Microsoft they are still obligated to produce 2 games for them going into next year, and I'd imagine anyone would be stupid to pay them premium bucks when they still have their interest divided by previous contract if nothing else.

At any rate, we've all been burned by this "big but secret releases" which turn out to be either derivitive drek or "OMG, what were they thinking" messes. Truthfully I tend to notice that *most* of the games worth getting excited over are announced years ahead of time. Oh sure, even then there are failures, but consider how long games like Oblivion, or Fallout 3 were in the pipe, along with others like Final Fantasy. Of course the big industry joke of this kind of thing is "Duke Nukem Forever".

At any rate, for all we know Bungee's big plan is to bank all their Halo swag, get someone to pay them a fortune to make another shooter which will "pwn Halo", and then release a game which is little more than a webcam porn movie with the Bungee design team lining up, spanking their monkeys, and blowing their loads on the screen (so it seemingly spreads accross the other side of the monitor) screaming "for the fans". Then they can fly off to their mansions in private jets claiming that it was final artistic liscence since it was a "Shooter" of a sort and "the best virtual Bukkake program ever invented".

The messed up thing is that if they were to do that right now, and put the "Halo" name on it, it would be guaranteed to sell like 10 million copies and have people defending it rabidly even with that content. :P

Jokes aside, the point is that this could be utter trash, why do we care if they have a secret project? Either tell us something substantial, or don't waste our bloody time. Until then I shall assume they purchused the rights to "Alien Disco Safari" (Budget Title) and are planning to make a 200 million dollar sequel with someone else's money and react appropriatly. :)

Would be cool if they struck a joint deal with Microsoft and Sony for equal shares.

HardRockSamurai:

Psychosocial:

HardRockSamurai:
After hearing this news, I can't help but give Bungie some props. Good for them, getting out of Microsoft's greedy hands so that they can try something new. That's what all developers SHOULD be doing.

They left Microsoft MONTHS ago. You're VERY late to the party, and all of the above are just as "greedy".

As long as it's on Xbox 360, I don't care. :P

Actually, I was referring to the TWO GAMES Bungie still owes Microsoft; I knew that they split up ages ago.

Also, did you consider that their "new game" MIGHT NOT BE on the 360?

It better be PC at least.

Therumancer:
Jokes aside, the point is that this could be utter trash, why do we care if they have a secret project?

Because of all the yammering from the yammering classes about how Bungie hasn't done anything but Halo. (Which is false, I might add. They have a long track record going back to their days as a Mac developer house. Heck, one of the first editions of this here Escapist had a piece by John Tynes, who worked on their unannounced and alas unfinished Phoenix project from the pre-Halo days.)

Bungie has said several times that they have a new IP on the way, but this is the first concrete evidence that there really is one out there. That's why this is news. (Well, that and that the deal is expected to be big.)

-- Steve

How about this, if you can't tell us about something then don't fucking tell us about it.

Finally, something else in the news besides a new Halo.

Pull this off, and I might have some respect for you yet, Bungie.

At any rate, for all we know Bungee's big plan is to bank all their Halo swag, get someone to pay them a fortune to make another shooter which will "pwn Halo", and then release a game which is little more than a webcam porn movie with the Bungee design team lining up, spanking their monkeys, and blowing their loads on the screen (so it seemingly spreads accross the other side of the monitor) screaming "for the fans". Then they can fly off to their mansions in private jets claiming that it was final artistic liscence since it was a "Shooter" of a sort and "the best virtual Bukkake program ever invented".

Sounds hot.

Malygris:
He mentioned one other interesting, albeit extremely unlikely, possibility as well. "There is one more publisher who could get into the game: Sony. That would be interesting," he added.

[...]

...from Mac to PC to Xbox to Xbox 360 to Playstation 3?

Well...sad to see Halo go away. I just love the universe.

I hope whatever they're keeping hush-hush is good. And that Sony doesn't publish this game.

Good enough to be the Supreme Almighty General Emperor King Ruler of the Gaming Market.

TheFacelessOne:
Well...sad to see Halo go away. I just love the universe.

I hope whatever their keeping hush-hush is good.

Good enough to be the Supreme Almighty General Emperor King Ruler of the Gaming Market.

Halo definitely ain't going away. Microsoft owns the IP and it's basically their Mario so even without Bungie we're going to see Halo games, for better or worse.

I can't wait to see what Bungie does though. I'm just hoping they cover another genre and do something completely different from Halo, Oni, or Marathon.

Amnestic:

At any rate, for all we know Bungee's big plan is to bank all their Halo swag, get someone to pay them a fortune to make another shooter which will "pwn Halo", and then release a game which is little more than a webcam porn movie with the Bungee design team lining up, spanking their monkeys, and blowing their loads on the screen (so it seemingly spreads accross the other side of the monitor) screaming "for the fans". Then they can fly off to their mansions in private jets claiming that it was final artistic liscence since it was a "Shooter" of a sort and "the best virtual Bukkake program ever invented".

Sounds hot.

I beg to differ.

Bigeyez:
I can't wait to see what Bungie does though. I'm just hoping they cover another genre and do something completely different from Halo, Oni, or Marathon.

Don't forget Myth, the Real Time Tactical game. (Sadly, that IP was sold off to Take2 along with Oni, in the Microsoft take-over/merger/whatever.)

-- Steve

Consider 9/10 like Bungie because of Halo, I doubt they'll let the franchise die after 3 games; they'll keep it alive with spin-offs or some rubbish.

Anton P. Nym:
*snip (Sadly, that IP was sold off to Take2 along with Oni, in the Microsoft take-over/merger/whatever.)

-- Steve

Oh really? Wow I didn't know that. That kind of sucks...I always thought it'd be cool to see an Oni remake from bungie sometime in the future.

Does anyone else think it's weird that Bethesda makers of RPG's are the ones in the news discussing this and dropping small hints???

My money is on MMOFPS.

Come on. They would require a lot of dough.

yah heard bungie was comming out with a non microsoft only game though i also heard that the next halo game would be available for ps3 thogh i still think thats a load
if it aint WOOHOO i love halo but can only get it on my pc and halo 2 needs vista and i got xp

GamerLuck:

HardRockSamurai:

Also, did you consider that their "new game" MIGHT NOT BE on the 360?

well i think it might be a bit of a bad move for bungie to completely abandon the 360... i mean, most of bungies fans are 360 owners, and while that may just pretain to the Halo franchis, i think alot of halo fans would get bungies new game just because it has bungie's name on it. and as for going exclusively sony... something tells me that wont happen. Bungie may not have forgotten how sony showed them the door the first time around (though at the same time it might just stand to use the same reasoning for them going exclusively sony...)

I just hope they dont abandon us 360 owners.... that would suck.

and if they start with the ps3 theyll get every ps3 owner cause we love halo it rocks a$$ so anything w/ bungie we try and get for the cpu or actually buy a 360 just for halo so i hope the go with sony

I think it's about time for Bungie to wade the multi-platform waters. that way everyone is happy, and Bungie makes loads of cash.

Why are we hearing from Bethesda? Seems odd.

Kiutu:
Why are we hearing from Bethesda? Seems odd.

Sounds like there's going to a bidding war and bethesda might be trying to stake a claim, or wants support from the gaming community to secure their piece in bungie.

Of course it's all speculation.

EDIT: Maybe we might even be lucky enough to get a nice bungie-bethesda open-world shooter-rpg. In a Elder scrolls style world! I want bright worlds again! =D

EDIT 2:

HardRockSamurai:

Psychosocial:

HardRockSamurai:
After hearing this news, I can't help but give Bungie some props. Good for them, getting out of Microsoft's greedy hands so that they can try something new. That's what all developers SHOULD be doing.

They left Microsoft MONTHS ago. You're VERY late to the party, and all of the above are just as "greedy".

As long as it's on Xbox 360, I don't care. :P

Actually, I was referring to the TWO GAMES Bungie still owes Microsoft; I knew that they split up ages ago.

Also, did you consider that their "new game" MIGHT NOT BE on the 360?

That would be another Valve PS3 Move, without actual reasoning. Cross-platforming should be the norm, I hope.

I am curious and glad.
Curious as to what this new project is if very few developers have the resources to handle it.
and glad that there will be (as far as we can see) only 2 more Halo games.

Don't get me wrong. The halo series is pretty cool, with it having spawned books, a spinoff rts and helping machinima. But it needs closure.

aedrial, I'm hoping for a bungie-berthesda-DICE collaboration, for open-world shooter RPG with destructable enviroments.

and floodone, I can see the apeal of them going multiplatform, but if they do its going to be costly and they have little experiance with the other platforms. So if they do go multiplatform, they should only go if they're confident they won't **** up and make them look bad.

It is nice to know they will stop with Halo, even though I love the Halo games I want to see more innovation now. However, if they move to Sony I am going to be angrier than a rhino who just had a bad day at the office and found me in bed with his wife.

I know what the game is!

What about Nintendo? They made enough money from the Wii to have every worker's posessions gold plated.

And it could be sony, after seeing what Halo did for the xbox, it wouldn't be far fetched that they would want their new title.

Plus, can't Bungie publish the title themselves? Hell, they made more money from Halo 3 than some publishers.

Samurai Goomba:
I know what the game is!

Best. Game. Ever.

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