Diablo 3 To Be Edited For Australia, Germany

Diablo 3 To Be Edited For Australia, Germany

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Diablo 3 Lead Designer Jay Wilson says he has no problem with editing the game for sale in regions like Australia and Germany, but that the restrictions demanded by China may be "a lot of trouble."

Diablo is a violent, bloody series and that's a heritage Diablo 3 appears ready to embrace, but in order to make the game palatable for as wide an audience as possible Blizzard is building parental controls into the game which will let players tone down or turn off the blood and gore. While the specifics haven't yet been finalized, Wilson said everything in the game has been built so it can be changed to accommodate not just parental concerns, but also regional ones.

"For regions like Germany and Australia, we will have to change blood if we're going to sell there. And that's fine. Those are the standards for those regions, and we don't really have a problem with catering to what they need and what they want," he told Wired.

"But China's going to be hard for us. Because a lot of the restrictions there are really... We may not be able to do them. It may not be possible," he continued. "With our relationship with NetEase, we recently got new information about what China really wants, and it's a lengthy list. It's really hard for us to cater to. We'll try. There's no reason we wouldn't want to go there, but there is a certain point where we'd have to redo so much of the game that it's not viable anymore."

While the game may not fly in China and he admitted that he expects at least a small amount of controversy over the inclusion of parental controls, Wilson said Blizzard is committed to keeping Diablo 3 true to its roots. "Diablo is our Mature-rated series, and it's important for us that it be that," he said. "It's our goal, and that's where we want it to be."

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For some reason, I fail to be surprised by this.

nice of them to change for germany and australia, and respectable that they wont want to make an entirely new game for china.

but i suspect that shipped games in all three country's will be above normal.

I wanna know what the hell china demanded!

Is the list anywhere?

sirdanrhodes:
For some reason, I fail to be surprised by this.

after a while you just remember that Australia and Germany do this all the time, I'm never surprised when Australia and Germany censor games.

That is an excellent picture to accompany the article.

I truly hope they don't cave to China's ridiculous standards. I'm sorry that China may not be able to play Diablo 3, but if enough gaming companies refuse to cater to their standards I'm willing to bet the government will revoke it for increased entertainment trade or due to huge petitions.

Feel free to correct me, but doesn't adding parental controls to a game thats sold as a Mature Rated series kinda defeat the purpose? It's kinda like if they made Friday the 13th: Sesame Street Edition.

DayDark:
I wanna know what the hell china demanded!

Is the list anywhere?

Probably no bones and undead. Just as in WoW.

Will there be a "Mortal Kombat" gore setting?

As long as the people in the USA get an unedited version I will be happy.

Tiamat666:

DayDark:
I wanna know what the hell china demanded!

Is the list anywhere?

Probably no bones and undead. Just as in WoW.

Yeah, they have some strange obsession with the living undead. And showing parts of human body.

...Weird, weird country.

I would also like a full list of what China wants and why they want it.

Destal:
I truly hope they don't cave to China's ridiculous standards. I'm sorry that China may not be able to play Diablo 3, but if enough gaming companies refuse to cater to their standards I'm willing to bet the government will revoke it for increased entertainment trade or due to huge petitions.

In China? If you hand that government a petition they'll just forward it to state security marked "dissidents"!

canadamus_prime:
Feel free to correct me, but doesn't adding parental controls to a game thats sold as a Mature Rated series kinda defeat the purpose? It's kinda like if they made Friday the 13th: Sesame Street Edition.

Half-Life has a parental control mode already, it's probably for parents who think the game would be suitable for their kids if the gore is turned down. After all Diablo isn't exactly a horrible game but the gore is a bit over the top in places.

black lincon:

sirdanrhodes:
For some reason, I fail to be surprised by this.

after a while you just remember that Australia and Germany do this all the time, I'm never surprised when Australia and Germany censor games.

I don't think the word 'censorship' is the right one to use in this case.

Germany simply created a classification system that exactly handles what is allowed to be displayed, advertised and sold to people below the age of 18.
As far as I know Australia does not have a media classification instance like the USK (Unterhaltunssoftware Selbstkontrolle) or BPjM (Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährende Medien) in Germany which sucks big time for developers and publishers.

Blizzard has three choices in Germany:
1) Hand over D3 for classification to the USK and aim for a USK 16 release which means if you're 16 years of age or older, you can grab your copy from the local retailer or amazon.
2) Hand over D3 for classification to the USK and aim for a USK 18 release which means the seller has to verify the buyers age.
3) Completely skip classification which would result in a "no youth release" label which means it is not allowed to be sold to persons under the age of 18.

If they would not hand D3 over to the USK for classification it would be possible for the BPjM to put the game onto the index which means nobody is allowed to display, show or advertise the game in public or sell the game retail except the seller can verify the buyer is at least 18 years of age. However, if a game has already received a classification from the USK (doesn't matter which one) it must not be indexed.

Personally, I'll definitely import the UK version of Diablo III like I do with all my PS3 games too. amazon.co.uk is ~ 20 euros cheaper compared to amazon.de - and I'll get the original (hopefully) kick-ass voicecasting version :D

Well, Yahtzee's not gona like this I bet.

Still, I guess it can't be helped... wish Australia and Germany would tone down their rating systems though =\

KDR_11k:

canadamus_prime:
Feel free to correct me, but doesn't adding parental controls to a game thats sold as a Mature Rated series kinda defeat the purpose? It's kinda like if they made Friday the 13th: Sesame Street Edition.

Half-Life has a parental control mode already, it's probably for parents who think the game would be suitable for their kids if the gore is turned down. After all Diablo isn't exactly a horrible game but the gore is a bit over the top in places.

Yes, but Jay Wilson himself said in the above article that "Diablo is our Mature-rated series," so putting parental controls on your quote "Mature-rated series" seems like, to me at least, putting training wheels on a Harley.

Dragon Age is has been aloud into Australia, so I think he is jumping the gun a bit there. They haven't even shown the game to the OFLC, and it's due out in 2012. As an Australian, I'm not worried yet, as it's a fair way off, and if they alow games like DragonAge in, then I have good hope that a full version of Diablo 3 will come in.

What we Aussies want and what the Australian government wants are two different things..

Glad to be in the US, where the only way to ensure your game can't be sold is to include extreme sexual content in it. Seriously, that's the ONLY way to get the A-Only rating these days. And even then you can hawk your stuff online.

canadamus_prime:
Feel free to correct me, but doesn't adding parental controls to a game thats sold as a Mature Rated series kinda defeat the purpose? It's kinda like if they made Friday the 13th: Sesame Street Edition.

You speak as-though the game will force you to use said controls. Just toggle the parental controls to the "off" position, and you are 99.999% unaffected by this (and that's only if you want to make an issue about the .001% effort it takes to toggle one setting, IF that setting even needs to be toggled). Seriously, I've seen dozens of highly violent games that had some form of a "turn off the blood and guts" option, and this is the first time I've seen someone whine about it. I guess it must be a Blizzard customer thing. :/

Simalacrum:
Well, Yahtzee's not gona like this I bet.

Yeah, his "We have the nicest beaches" tax sometimes demands a bit much. Still, he managed to get his hands on Manhunt, which was apparently banned in Australia, so I'm sure he'll be ready to rip into Diablo 3 when the time comes.

The developers haven't even submitted the game for classification in Australia - therefore they are merely making assumptions about whether or not they have to edit certain content. This is a classic case of paranoid self censorship. Games such as Gears of War 1/2, Dead Rising, Saints Row 1/2, God of War 1/2, Dead Space, Bioshock, UT3, FEAR 2 etc have all been released in Australia uncut. The last time this happened the assumptions turned out to be unfounded - GTA IV was edited by Rockstar originally because they thought the uncut version would be banned, but they submitted the uncut version for classification when they released the PC version and it passed without any edits.

All that will happen is people will download the uncut version, whether the CB censors it or if Blizzard self censors it. This is a case of the developers being unwilling to try to get the uncut version classified. It is THEIR decision, not the Classification Boards.

If the uncut version were submitted for classification in Australia it would most likely be passed. Contrary to popular belief most adult games don't actually get censored - the sensationalistic media just LOVE perpetuating complete BS. The system in Australia has a lot of problems, it does indeed need an R rating but there is no way Diablo III would be banned. It's just the developers being paranoid.

WhiteTigerShiro:

canadamus_prime:
Feel free to correct me, but doesn't adding parental controls to a game thats sold as a Mature Rated series kinda defeat the purpose? It's kinda like if they made Friday the 13th: Sesame Street Edition.

You speak as-though the game will force you to use said controls. Just toggle the parental controls to the "off" position, and you are 99.999% unaffected by this (and that's only if you want to make an issue about the .001% effort it takes to toggle one setting, IF that setting even needs to be toggled). Seriously, I've seen dozens of highly violent games that had some form of a "turn off the blood and guts" option, and this is the first time I've seen someone whine about it. I guess it must be a Blizzard customer thing. :/

You misunderstand me. It doesn't bother me all that much that they're putting the setting in there. It just seems odd to me that they tout the series as their "Mature-rated series" and then go and add a feature that allows you to turn off the things that make it "mature-rated".
I suppose voluntary censorship is better than forced censorship.

canadamus_prime:
Yes, but Jay Wilson himself said in the above article that "Diablo is our Mature-rated series," so putting parental controls on your quote "Mature-rated series" seems like, to me at least, putting training wheels on a Harley.

On the other hand declaring the gore in a game to be an integral part and denying the game to anyone living in a censoring country strikes me as extremely shallow. Mature means more than just excessive blood, it also mean no wacky jokes and stuff like that.

Spucktier:
Blizzard has three choices in Germany:
1) Hand over D3 for classification to the USK and aim for a USK 16 release which means if you're 16 years of age or older, you can grab your copy from the local retailer or amazon.
2) Hand over D3 for classification to the USK and aim for a USK 18 release which means the seller has to verify the buyers age.
3) Completely skip classification which would result in a "no youth release" label which means it is not allowed to be sold to persons under the age of 18.

No rating means no label at all, the old "no youth clearance" sticker was the 18 rating, they redesigned it to a big red 18 recently but it's the same thing. AFAIK you need to verify the age of the buyer on a 16 rated game too, just not when doing online sales.

While the specifics haven't yet been finalized, Wilson said everything in the game has been built so it can be changed to accommodate not just parental concerns, but also regional ones.

"For regions like Germany and Australia, we will have to change blood if we're going to sell there. And that's fine. Those are the standards for those regions, and we don't really have a problem with catering to what they need and what they want," he told Wired.

Hmm, I didn't know that 'suck the cock of lawmakers deciding what adults are allowed to see' had been added added to the list of definitions for "cater"

"But China's going to be hard for us. Because a lot of the restrictions there are really... We may not be able to do them. It may not be possible," he continued. "With our relationship with NetEase, we recently got new information about what China really wants, and it's a lengthy list. It's really hard for us to cater to. We'll try. There's no reason we wouldn't want to go there,"

Sure! Who *doesn't* want to go there, when 'there' is the demands of paranoid oppressive police state!

DayDark:
I wanna know what the hell china demanded!

Is the list anywhere?

No Skeletons for one. The Chinese are super paranoid about skeletons.

Remember how many goddamn skeletons were in Diablo 2?

Spucktier:

Blizzard has three choices in Germany:
1) Hand over D3 for classification to the USK and aim for a USK 16 release which means if you're 16 years of age or older, you can grab your copy from the local retailer or amazon.
2) Hand over D3 for classification to the USK and aim for a USK 18 release which means the seller has to verify the buyers age.
3) Completely skip classification which would result in a "no youth release" label which means it is not allowed to be sold to persons under the age of 18.

Actually, that's incorrect. 3) means the game gets no label at all - the "No youth release" label doesn't exist anymore since they revamped the labels and just meant the same as 2).

On a different note, I wonder how much gorier than its predecessors Diablo 3 actually is, because both of them were released unedited and got a USK 16 rating back in the days.

TsunamiWombat:

DayDark:
I wanna know what the hell china demanded!

Is the list anywhere?

No Skeletons for one. The Chinese are super paranoid about skeletons.

Remember how many goddamn skeletons were in Diablo 2?

I don't see how you can have WoW or any Diablo series without skeletons, i mean they are such a big part of the game! How can the lich king have a army if he has no undead? how can you gain levels if there are no skeles to grind. HOW COULD THE NECROMANCER WORK?!? Crazy China

DayDark:
I wanna know what the hell china demanded!

Is the list anywhere?

Yeah, the pickey bastards

Zallest:

TsunamiWombat:

DayDark:
I wanna know what the hell china demanded!

Is the list anywhere?

No Skeletons for one. The Chinese are super paranoid about skeletons.

Remember how many goddamn skeletons were in Diablo 2?

I don't see how you can have WoW or any Diablo series without skeletons, i mean they are such a big part of the game! How can the lich king have a army if he has no undead? how can you gain levels if there are no skeles to grind. HOW COULD THE NECROMANCER WORK?!? Crazy China

I'm 90% sure that Wrath of the Lich King hasn't had a Chinese release. Players like those in the guild [Stars] (Of Yogg-Saron+0 World First 'fame') are chinese players playing on a Taiwanese release of the game so they can actually access the latest expansion.

While the world becomes the sheep, the wolves circle closer.

karmapolizei:

Spucktier:

Blizzard has three choices in Germany:
1) Hand over D3 for classification to the USK and aim for a USK 16 release which means if you're 16 years of age or older, you can grab your copy from the local retailer or amazon.
2) Hand over D3 for classification to the USK and aim for a USK 18 release which means the seller has to verify the buyers age.
3) Completely skip classification which would result in a "no youth release" label which means it is not allowed to be sold to persons under the age of 18.

Actually, that's incorrect

Right, "label" was a poor choice of words.

DayDark:
I wanna know what the hell china demanded!

Is the list anywhere?

Its China; they'd ban anything that doesn't vaguely conform to their ideals.

Thats a Communist Government for you.

Hopefully we'll get the option to crank it to full gore in Australia. If not, I'll just grab a US digital distribution version. Or pirate a US version.

"For regions like Germany and Australia, we will have to change blood if we're going to sell there. And that's fine. Those are the standards for those regions, and we don't really have a problem with catering to what they need and what they want," he told Wired."

I'm going to say what everyone's thinking...
WE DO have a problem with the standards for our region.
Also, another important note...
FUCK YOU TO HELL, MICHAEL ATKINSON!!!
FUCK YOU TO HELL!

 

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