Gun Enthusiasts Complain About the "Call of Duty Effect"

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Gun Enthusiasts Complain About the "[i]Call of Duty[/I] Effect"

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Many gun enthusiasts complain how amateurs believe that they know about firearms due to playing videogames like Modern Warfare 2, which feature real guns.

The owner of the gun site, The Firearm Blog, was surprised to realize that the most popular search term that led to his site was an obscure gun unknown outside the firearm industry, the Bushmaster ACR. That was until he realized that the gun was featured in Modern Warfare 2.

"I was surprised because, compared to the AKs, M4s and Glocks of the world, the ACR is relatively unknown outside of the industry," the blog's owner, Steve, wrote on December 8th, 2009. "Have any other bloggers noticed the Call of Duty effect?"

There follows a stream of anecdotes from gun enthusiasts about how videogames have turned gamers into "gun experts."

"I was riding around with a friend of mine when I asked him to stop in at this new gun shop," said one commenter, Robert. "He knows next to nothing about guns so I was surprised when he asked, 'Can you buy an ACR in there?' After explaining they don't sell it to regular people I asked him where the hell he had heard of it ... should've known before asking. He's an avid gamer."

Another funny story is told by Jim:

I wouldn't call it the Call of Duty effect as much as the Halo effect. He came in to a Pawn Shop I was shopping around at and asked for an "Ess Em Gee" (Submachine gun). The owner said that he didn't carry them. He then asked if he had any sniper rifles. The owner showed him a .270 (I believe). As the punk (hat cocked off to the side and his pants at a level where a belt would not allow them to fall) looked down the scope, he asked how to "zoom it" (a common feature of scoped rifles in video games). The owner showed him how to magnify and clarify the image. The punk said that he was just used to the rifle doing that for him.

Finally the owner asked what the kid was looking for to which he replied "I just want to headshot some noobs! Like in Halo!"

The conversation quickly degraded from that moment and ended very shortly.

Source: Firearm Blog

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this is just fucking terrifying, a bunch of assholes who think they know about guns playing games and they want to try em out in real life. you know that whole, we gamers aren't violent people thing? and games don't train you to become a mass killer? not doing a good job at reinforcing these things.

the only saving grace is that these kids are just idiots who truly have no idea how to handle a weapon, and that games are not yet "realistic" enough to show the actual workings of such a gun

"Gun enthusiast" is both an amusing and depressing phrase.

Anyway, I've definitely heard of this before. Can't say I ever listen.

Well judging by who they have to deal with, I don't blame them for being angry.

I'll just stick to playing a game and wikipediaing the guns featured in them if I want to know more.

ya it's pretty hilarious how gaming in general drives people to think they're experts about this or that... it's not just limited to guns and CoD, although it's a lot more dangerous with this particular thing.

This seems pretty common, actually. The problem is that while games may spark an initial interest in firearms, people don't want to even bother learning about real ones.

Although, there are occasionally those whose interest is sparked by it and they then pursue shooting as a hobby, as I did. I did pursue my interest, though, and now I go to the range with my dad very regularly.

qbanknight:
this is just fucking terrifying, a bunch of assholes who think they know about guns playing games and they want to try em out in real life.

Nah it's not terrifying, it's been going on since Goldeneye.

I have to admit this is always funny to overhear in outdoor and hunting shops. It's the ones who ask with a straight face if they can see a Five-Seven or a Deagle that are best, especially when the shopkeeper's reaction usually amounts to 'buh?!'

Ah well, some of them'll learn properly, the rest will buy airsoft guns and pose on MySpace.

Can't believe it's still legal in America to carry guns... Fucking wild west. Well yeah the world is kinda retarded and this doesn't suprise me a bit. Hopefully all the gamers WILL buy a gun and then just annihilate each other. Many less humanbeings to worry about

Whilst Call of Duty did pique my interest in guns, I know better than to ask for expensive rifles that are still in production/limited military sale.

I know a lot of people who think they know a lot about guns, and a few who are obsessed enough to do more research. I know just enough to understand that with the exception of looks and names the guns aren't all that similar to the real versions of the guns.

Golden test: tell me what to do in a misfire, and I'll pass you as competant.

Amazing how some people blur the line between games and reality. I'm surprised that Forza hasn't turned everyone into racing pros.

qbanknight:
this is just fucking terrifying, a bunch of assholes who think they know about guns playing games and they want to try em out in real life. you know that whole, we gamers aren't violent people thing? and games don't train you to become a mass killer? not doing a good job at reinforcing these things.

the only saving grace is that these kids are just idiots who truly have no idea how to handle a weapon, and that games are not yet "realistic" enough to show the actual workings of such a gun

On the other end of the spectrum I believe the gun-blog guy is kind of a prick, I know atad about firearms from what my dad has taught me, chamber the first round, safeties on the grip, I wouldn't make a stupid mistake like the guy in the second thing, dude didn't seem bad for it, just uneducated. But back to the point so what If people learn about certain guns through games, who cares, they pick the stuff up later, get more interested, learn more, and join groups like the NRA, hopefully they don't end up like gun nuts though.

Oh yes. There's a kid on my course who's convinced that he's a crack shot with every type of weapon because he's good at Counterstrike. When I gave him a bunch of pellet guns I've got over the years, he couldn't even hit a can at twenty paces. To this day he claims that he was "compensating for recoil" and that he missed because "a pellet gun doesn't have any".

I wish I'd kept in contact with my mate in the army. I'd have LOVED to see this kid try to strip and clean something.

For the record, I'm a fucking awful shot. Except with lightguns, so, uhh, bring on the laser cannons?

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Bob_F_It:
Golden test: tell me what to do in a misfire, and I'll pass you as competant.

Unload the clip, put the safety on, keep it pointing away from people and look for someone who knows what they're doing?

EDIT the second - By "unload the clip, I mean eject, not fire randomly."

Again, this has been around since the 80s or so when Combat and Survival magazines started coming out.

"You know how to fire this gun?"
"Yeh, I read it in Andy McNabb's book."
*BANG* Snap "MEDIC!"

Dumbasses are dumbasses, no need to find an excuse for them.

"YES! Finally played Modern Warfare 2 for 20 hours straight! Now I am fully trained and ready to use a sniper rifle on the battlefield."

People are just so, so stupid...

i believe i have a better idea of where the safety is and how to reload a weapon than if i didn't play videogames, but since i dont live in America or in the middle of a war zone ill probably never have a chance to test it.

Greg Tito:

Finally the owner asked what the kid was looking for to which he replied "I just want to headshot some noobs! Like in Halo!"

I would have called the law authorities at that moment. Sounds like the kind of nutjob that goes around shooting up schools.

This is further proof that games like MW2 and Halo should NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE be sold to anyone under the age of 18.

Parents should not be allowed to buy these games either. They just end up in the hands of bratty 12 year old xbox 360 users.

Well this proves that violent games don't turn kids into mass murders, it just makes them think they can become one. Obviously the complaint that games teach kids to use guns is incorrect, as seen here. About the only thing they learn is which end makes the loud noise, sometimes.

That's pretty scary...Thinking of the n00b hunters buying REAL guns

Greg Tito:

Finally the owner asked what the kid was looking for to which he replied "I just want to headshot some noobs! Like in Halo!"

Wow, seriously...
Atkinson and Thompson better don't find out about this.
Now if he just had said it was for hunting or that he just always wanted to collect guns...

Well tecnically you could get a Bushmaster ACR as long as you have the licenses and it falls into code.

but its still over 3 grand not counting all of the hoops you need to jump through to get it. For some reason people believe that Americans walk into gun stores with big wads of cash and walk out with assault rifles.

those people fall into the category of "Dumbass", or "euro-trash"

Ok, now I know this SEEMS bad, but let's just think about this for a second. This makes it quite obvious that games are capable of teaching people through tangential learning. Yes, right now they're learning about dangerous things like guns but the game DID get them interested in learning things. We can expand on this. We can teach people through the magic of games about deeper issues.

Rofl? srsly? gun nuts think they can complain about nething?

Yet more reasons for me to not go anywhere near gun shops.

This is sad, and makes me feel bad. I play CoD, and I actually DO know something about firearms. I've been around them all my life because my dad collects them. When I was little he would show me differences between them and teach me about them.

A Pious Cultist:

Greg Tito:

Finally the owner asked what the kid was looking for to which he replied "I just want to headshot some noobs! Like in Halo!"

I would have called the law authorities at that moment. Sounds like the kind of nutjob that goes around shooting up schools.

True, but he mentioned how the kid was dressed, so he was probably just some retard gang-banger wannabe, and most likely white.

Ugh, I hate those people. You see a lot of them around the Escapist, unfortunately. People who like to think they're badass because they know what a bunch of guns look like.

Congratulations, you can identify a P90. That is the extent of your knowledge.

Slightly OT, but it always made me laugh to see the automatic rifleman in Ghost Recon waving a SAW about one-handed like it was a pistol. 17 pounds doesn't even sound like that much, but jog for six miles with one, and it feels like the heaviest thing in the world.

Indecizion:
Rofl? srsly? gun nuts think they can complain about nething?

not sure what a "nething" is but its not good when you have some jackass walk in off the street and ask for a "SMG" or a "sniper rifle" and not understanding anything about them. Thats a major fucking concern.

You'll have people shoving .20 gauge ammo into a .12 gauge shotgun or taking a 6.8mm carbine and shoving 7mm ammo inside.

This has been happening for ages with Guitar Hero and suddenly everyone knows the entire Smashing Pumpkins back catalogue, or so they think. So while I see why they're annoyed, I can't say I feel much sympathy. Complaining annoys me (the irony that I feel the need to complain about it), just leave them be, eventually they'll show how much less they know. If anything, it should provide them with some humour, like the sniper example, which is hilarious.

Bob_F_It:
Golden test: tell me what to do in a misfire, and I'll pass you as competant.

Amazing how some people blur the line between games and reality. I'm surprised that Forza hasn't turned everyone into racing pros.

Put the safety on and eject the bullet?

Keep in mind that I've only ever used bolt action rifles, and I've never had a misfire.

A Pious Cultist:

Greg Tito:

Finally the owner asked what the kid was looking for to which he replied "I just want to headshot some noobs! Like in Halo!"

I would have called the law authorities at that moment. Sounds like the kind of nutjob that goes around shooting up schools.

I wouldent worry about it. with a catagory like "sniper rifle" he would be standing around awhile.

like, years surfing through gun catalogs.

Tiny116:
That's pretty scary...Thinking of the n00b hunters buying REAL guns

I wouldn't be too concerned. Zero skill is required to kill in Halo and CoD (prove me wrong) with a sniper rifle, or anything really. They probably couldn't figure out how to LOAD the rifle to begin with! xD

Well the same people think Desert Eagles are "good weapons".

I laugh.

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