No Windows XP Support for Just Cause 2

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No Windows XP Support for Just Cause 2

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Hope you PC gamers out there haven't been having too much fun watching all the spectacular trailers for Just Cause 2, because it's DirectX 10 only, which means it won't run under Windows XP.

Just Cause 2 is a sandbox action game in which plot is almost entirely irrelevant compared to the insanely awesome stunts the player can perform with the aid of a parachute, a grappling hook and a silly, highly interactive world. One pre-release video shows the player lifting a sports car with a helicopter and dropping it on an enemy's head, while the most recent features a game of chicken between a fire truck and an airliner.

Tons of fun, for sure; just don't expect to join in if you're a PC gamer who's still hacking away with Windows XP. Just Cause 2 is DX10-only, which means you'll need at least Vista or Windows 7 to play. The specs:

Minimum:

  • Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista or Windows 7 (Windows XP is unsupported)
  • Processor: Dual-core CPU with SSE3 (Athlon 64 X2 4200 / Pentium D 3GHz)
  • Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce 8800 Series / ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro with 256MB memory or equivalent DX10 card with 256MB memory
  • Memory: 2GB RAM
  • DirectX: Microsoft DirectX 10
  • Hard Drive: 10GB of free drive space
  • Optical Drive: DVD-ROM drive
  • Sound Card: 100% DirectX 10 compatible sound card
  • Internet Connection: Internet connection required for product activation
  • Input: Keyboard and mouse (Microsoft Xbox 360 controller optional)

Recommended:

  • Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista or Windows 7 (Windows XP is unsupported)
  • Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6GHz or AMD Phenom X3 2.4GHz
  • Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 Series with 512MB / ATI Radeon HD 5750 Series with 512MB or equivalent DX10 card with 512MB memory
  • Memory: 3GB
  • DirectX: Microsoft DirectX 10.1 with Vista SP1
  • Hard Drive: 10GB of free drive space
  • Optical Drive: DVD-ROM drive
  • Sound Card: 100% DirectX 10 compatible Dolby Digital 5.1 sound card
  • Internet Connection: Internet connection required for product activation
  • Input: Keyboard and mouse (Xbox 360 controller optional)

Of course, Windows XP is two generations old, so what's the big deal about not supporting it? Only this: According to the January 2010 Steam survey, Windows XP is still far and away the most popular version of Microsoft's operating system, with almost 44 percent of Steam users running it. That's a huge portion of the PC market to ignore. On the other hand, that's a huge portion of what will easily be the tiniest portion of the game's overall market, so Eidos and Squeenix probably aren't losing much sleep over it.

Just Cause 2 comes out on March 23 for the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC.

Source: Rock, Paper, Shotgun

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That's a bold move indeed. I sense another petition/boycott coming!

And then I add the mandatory: I'm glad I own a PS3 and a Xbox360.

Wow, you know how long it's been since I've felt the need to check my system requirements? I mean, I don't have that nice of a computer, but this is the first game in five years that I flat out do not meet the requirements for. OK kids, time to get a taste of what PC gaming was like in the 90s!

Dublin Solo:
That's a bold move indeed. I sense another petition/boycott coming!

And then I add the mandatory: I'm glad I own a PS3 and a Xbox360.

You can't petition them for DX9 support, they'd have to redesign the entire game. And they'd likely to a crappy rushed job. It's better the way it is.

Well, now I have too upgrade.... too VISTA *evil music*

I hope this won't turn into a trend, while I do own a copy of windows 7 I've just been really reluctant to switch over just because of having to completely reinstall everything (for some reason my Windows 7 copy doesn't support upgrading). This would be a huge pain because I have to go hunt down save files (what happened to them being in their respective game folders? Some save in My Docs now, wtf?) for various game and then actually have to re download all my steam games. And I'm sure hunting down all my drivers will be a treat...
Oh well, like I said I hope it doesn't turn into a trend, but for me its still a case of "if it isn't broken don't fix it".

I'm just going to say that i'm pissed off, and leave it at that. Don't like when upgrades are forced on me.

Rainboq:
Well, now I have too upgrade.... too VISTA *evil music*

i got vista.. works fine for me.. never really understood the hate for it....

This is bad how? It's time to upgrade people.

Rainboq:
Well, now I have too upgrade.... too VISTA *evil music*

Evil like that?

phoenix352:

Rainboq:
Well, now I have too upgrade.... too VISTA *evil music*

i got vista.. works fine for me.. never really understood the hate for it....

I had it on another PC with Vista, crashed so many times it became unusable, I had too get a brand new laptop with XP

It makes complete sense this year to start declining support for XP in a general sense since not only has Win7 overtaken Vista in adoption for Gamers but their combined is at the tipping point. So you can either decide to program for DX10/11 for Vista and Win7 or program in DX9 for XP and not take advantage of DX10 stuff for all the new OS' and hardware.

Or if you really care about a port you can program in both DX9 and DX10 which is masses of work and testing for a port to PC. Not that there is anything wrong with ports; but if you are going to port you might as well do it well once rather than multiple times really poorly.

XP is 7 years old, we might as well start phasing it out. Nothing wrong with it, just we need to move on. General support ended last year for the system.

300lb. Samoan:

Dublin Solo:
That's a bold move indeed. I sense another petition/boycott coming!

And then I add the mandatory: I'm glad I own a PS3 and a Xbox360.

You can't petition them for DX9 support, they'd have to redesign the entire game. And they'd likely to a crappy rushed job. It's better the way it is.

Oh, I know that. But do you think that will keep people from trying to start petitions and boycotts? That was mainly what I was implying :)

Well, at least I'm getting this on PS3.

That's right, I'm a Console Tard.

Rednog:
I hope this won't turn into a trend, while I do own a copy of windows 7 I've just been really reluctant to switch over just because of having to completely reinstall everything (for some reason my Windows 7 copy doesn't support upgrading). This would be a huge pain because I have to go hunt down save files (what happened to them being in their respective game folders? Some save in My Docs now, wtf?) for various game and then actually have to re download all my steam games. And I'm sure hunting down all my drivers will be a treat...
Oh well, like I said I hope it doesn't turn into a trend, but for me its still a case of "if it isn't broken don't fix it".

I upgraded to windows 7 and didn't have to reinstall a thing.

I had a friend do it for me though, so I have no idea how.

*Camera pans into dark board room*

Gentlemen, today we put an end to Windows XP. For too long users have refused to upgrade to Vista..... For too long users have mocked the power of Vista. Now, Just Cause 2 has given us the chance to finally defeat XP and force users to upgrade. We'll be sure to rise the price of upgrading the day of launch as well.

Mua ha ha ha ha ha haaaa!

*Board room erupts with evil laughter*

(At least thats the way I see it)

Dublin Solo:

300lb. Samoan:

Dublin Solo:
That's a bold move indeed. I sense another petition/boycott coming!

And then I add the mandatory: I'm glad I own a PS3 and a Xbox360.

You can't petition them for DX9 support, they'd have to redesign the entire game. And they'd likely to a crappy rushed job. It's better the way it is.

Oh, I know that. But do you think that will keep people from trying to start petitions and boycotts? That was mainly what I was implying :)

Well, that's true. Let's see if we can't nip this in the bud right here:
HEY RETARDS - XP DOESN'T SUPPORT DX10. TECHNOLOGY MARCHES ON, DEAL WITH IT.

That said, I'm REALLY glad I don't know any thing about this game or have any great desire to buy it, otherwise I'd be really pissed about how old and grungy my 2005 Windows XP machine really is. In all my years of maintaining and upgrading the family system, this is the longest stretch I've ever gone without feeling like I was painfully behind the times.

Yeah, so what?

And that Steam survey doesn't say a lot, because for one, it doesn't say if all those XP users on Steam have the kind of hardware to run JC2 in the first place, because chances are, they don't.

phoenix352:

Rainboq:
Well, now I have too upgrade.... too VISTA *evil music*

i got vista.. works fine for me.. never really understood the hate for it....

It used to be buggy as hell and under performing, then they fixed it, but people still believes it's buggy as hell and under performing.

As much as I hate this, I'm glad I just upgraded to Windows 7. :/

It's an admittedly jerkassed move on Avalanche's part, but Windows XP is almost ten years old at this point. There are two more operating systems available now. Most computers don't even last as long as XP has been around, so it's really not all that unreasonable that they expect most PC gamers to have an OS from the last three years. Sure, you can complain about it, and the anger is understandable, but it's like complaining that Killzone 2 doesn't run on the PS2. It's an outdated system, and XP is an outdated OS. You can't exactly condemn them for not worrying about supporting it anymore.

Dark Templar:

Rednog:
I hope this won't turn into a trend, while I do own a copy of windows 7 I've just been really reluctant to switch over just because of having to completely reinstall everything (for some reason my Windows 7 copy doesn't support upgrading). This would be a huge pain because I have to go hunt down save files (what happened to them being in their respective game folders? Some save in My Docs now, wtf?) for various game and then actually have to re download all my steam games. And I'm sure hunting down all my drivers will be a treat...
Oh well, like I said I hope it doesn't turn into a trend, but for me its still a case of "if it isn't broken don't fix it".

I upgraded to windows 7 and didn't have to reinstall a thing.

I had a friend do it for me though, so I have no idea how.

I think it depends on which version of 7 you have, I bought window 7 when there was a student promotion which made it pretty much dirt cheap.

karmapolizei:
Yeah, so what?

And that Steam survey doesn't say a lot, because for one, it doesn't say if all those XP users on Steam have the kind of hardware to run JC2 in the first place, because chances are, they don't.

I think you really underestimate people who use XP, Vista was a load of garbage for a long time in terms of gaming thus a lot of PC users stuck to XP and never went out of their way to buy vista, thus say a person bought/made a new gaming rig in the last year or year and a half or so (which by most definitions would/should be able to run JC2) why bother to go out and buy a copy of vista with windows 7 on the horizon when you have your trusty copy of XP around?

OMG games don't support windows 98!!!

I really don't see why people complain about this. I still use xp, but plan to get a new pc soon anyway, as I can't run the latest game aswell as I won't.

XP has had a good run, and we are lucky it has been supported for so long, but if its holding progression back, then I say scrap it.

Rednog:
I hope this won't turn into a trend, while I do own a copy of windows 7 I've just been really reluctant to switch over just because of having to completely reinstall everything (for some reason my Windows 7 copy doesn't support upgrading). This would be a huge pain because I have to go hunt down save files (what happened to them being in their respective game folders? Some save in My Docs now, wtf?) for various game and then actually have to re download all my steam games. And I'm sure hunting down all my drivers will be a treat...
Oh well, like I said I hope it doesn't turn into a trend, but for me its still a case of "if it isn't broken don't fix it".

I hope this does become a trend. The industry has to push forward eventually, and XP is 9 years old already.

I remember being absolutely psyched when Relic announced that Company of Heroes required 1gb of RAM to play, because the requirement had been 512mb for so long you could tell that none of the developers were very interested in pushing the limits at all. Big surprise that Company of Heroes ended up being an unbelievable game while also being an impressive technical achievement.

If you remember the early to mid 90's you would remember all kinds of advancements like this. I remember Wing Commander 3 being one of the first video games to require a CD-ROM as it would not be available on floppy disks.

Good for them for ditching DX9 support! Granted it is at the loss of WinXP, but seriously the O/S is almost 9 years old at some point you have to draw a line.

I loved WinXP, and while I currently run Vista, Win7 should be a pretty solid gaming platform.

*Ekhem*

Desktop market share for January 2010, taken straight from Wikipedia, because I'm a lazy bum:

Windows XP - 66.31%
Windows Vista - 17.39%
Windows 7 - 7.51%

So let me get this straight, they're willingly giving up at least 50% of their PC sales?

Good "jorb" Just Cause.

And by the way, Win Xp can use Dx10.

Well there are games that don't play in Vista/7, and it had to happen eventually. Still sucks though.

Populus89:

And by the way, Win Xp can use Dx10.

You're not allowed to say that. Microsoft said it can't and so it is law!

But yeah, we need to move on sometime. Just that Just Cause 2 isn't the sort of game the make it worth it.

Edit: Oh, oh, I got one! It's not a Just Cause for upgrading from XP. YEEEEEAHHH.

Populus89:
*Ekhem*

Desktop market share for January 2010, taken straight from Wikipedia, because I'm a lazy bum:

Windows XP - 66.31%
Windows Vista - 17.39%
Windows 7 - 7.51%

So let me get this straight, they're willingly giving up at least 50% of their PC sales?

Good "jorb" Just Cause.

And by the way, Win Xp can use Dx10.

yeah, but i don't want to fuck up my now unsupported OS.
if someone doesn't start, that number is all the more likely to remain the same.
i say good, make gaames that make me want to upgrade from my machine.
i challenge them.

Well it just menas its not a block buster, if they can't afford to support XP then they won't take the effort to make a excellent game.

Kollega:
I'm just going to say that i'm pissed off, and leave it at that. Don't like when upgrades are forced on me.

Do you have a console? Because complaining about no XP support is like complaining about an Xbox360 game not running on the original Xbox. XP is friggin' nine years old; You're just really lucky Microsoft took so much time because we could be on Windows 8 right now and XP would be but a distant memory.

Rainboq:
Well, now I have too upgrade.... too VISTA *evil music*

Might want to just jump to Windows 7...

I personally don't like either version, but windows 7 is atleast a little less annoying than Vista... By that I mean I didn't want to fully slam my GF's new laptop into the wall like I wanted to with her older laptop that ran vista... Atleast not yet anyway... LOL

This may be just to try to push gamers into getting a newer OS... I'm not biting that bullet. I'd rather go without a game than to have to upgrade to what I feel is worse than what I have already...

Bet Razor1911 will "fix" this some days after release

Rednog:

I think you really underestimate people who use XP, Vista was a load of garbage for a long time in terms of gaming thus a lot of PC users stuck to XP and never went out of their way to buy vista, thus say a person bought/made a new gaming rig in the last year or year and a half or so (which by most definitions would/should be able to run JC2) why bother to go out and buy a copy of vista with windows 7 on the horizon when you have your trusty copy of XP around?

I don't think I do. All I'm saying is that the acutal number of people with the approriate rig AND Windows XP is probably lower than the overall XP share on Steam, and I even venture to say that it's by a long shot. But I do agree that there's still a significant portion of XP users with gaming hardware out there.

On a different note, I don't think this is jerkish on the side of Avalanche, but more of MS who, in their infinite wisdom, made DX10 a Vista-only show. See, DX10 is a complete overhaul of the DirectX architecture, and from what I get, it's for the better. I don't think it would have been a problem developing it for XP, too, but MS didn't in a jerkish move to push Vista (yeah, way to go) usage.

That all being said, I think it's time for a big name to move away from the developer hell that DX9 appears to be and embrace DX10 - if it hadn't been for MS' foolish business strategy from the Vista age, we'd have seen this kind of thing way earlier, and no one would have had to complain.

dryg:
Bet Razor1911 will "fix" this some days after release

Unless he wants to re-program the entire engine, I doubt it. dx9 and dx10/dx11 are completely different.

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