Satanic Themed Videogames on the Rise

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Satanic Themed Videogames on the Rise

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As if all the sex, drugs and violence weren't enough, now we've got something even worse to worry about in our videogames: Satan!

That's right, Satan. Devil worship. I'm talking about Beelzebub, bub. He's in your videogames, and he's stealing the souls of your doodz.

"This has been going on for the last 10 years, but especially in the most recent games," Lance Christian, a self-described avid gamer, told The Bulletin.

The most "egregious" Satanic games, according to the appropriately-named Christian, are Deception: Invitation to Darkness, Nocturne and Shadow Hearts, which is a bit of an odd list for "recent games" given that the newest of the bunch, Nocturne, was originally released in 2003.

Dragon Age: Origins also gets a mention for its depiction of "God going mad and cursing the world" despite the fact that the game has nothing whatsoever to do with the Christian religion: The god in question was the Maker and he wasn't mad, just really pissed off. Confusing things even more, Christian claimed, "A witch attacks believers and players can 'have sex' with her in a pagan ritual called 'blood magic'."

Predictably, EA gets special attention for the Dante's Inferno promotional campaign, which included things like the fake "Mass: We Pray" site, a "Number of the Beast" discount of $6.66 and a Super Bowl ad that promised, "Hell Awaits." Other games with "satanic themes" include Devil Summoner, Koudelka, Trapt, Bayonetta, Darksiders and Guitar Hero, presumably because of the presence of Ozzy Osbourne, Ronnie James Dio and/or Bobby Kotick.

ESRB ratings are of little help because they focus primarily on violence, sex, drug use and other potentially objectionable content, rather than spiritual beliefs. Eliot Mizrachi of the ESRB suggested that gamers with concerns over specific content could find more information on the board's website but as The Bulletin's crack team of reporters pointed out, "Few mentioned the overt satanic content of the games."

The number of games in which God is the enemy and Satan is the hero is growing, the report said, to the point that "even the most hardcore gamers are sounding the alarm." "This is just the tip of the iceberg in what I have discovered," Christian said. "I feel that the devil has a new tool to work with in this age of technology, and the majority of adults in a position of responsibility are left in the dark."

via: GamePolitics

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Good. To me, the whole "video games are getting more satanic" thing is, by my interpetation, video games giving the middle finger to the various churches for claiming they're the works of the devil.

Okay. But would the Christian church complain if we made more games involving Pro-Islam messages instead of Pro-Satan?

Yes how terrible that we're allowed to do our wicked desires like banging hot ladies and destroying entire cities while laughing like maniacs in the remaining inferno instead of doing so in real life.

Also, I like Lucifer/Satan/Beelzebub as a character in most movies / games. In Constantine, for example, he is quite hilarious.

And am I correct in assuming that the only people complaining are christians who already complain about EVERY SINGLE CONCIEVABLE THING that isn't stamped with "approved by God, Jesus and all his hairy friends"?

This is just silly and abritraily pointless they're Video games as in they are not real? If you wann complain about people and Satan while having a Valid thought go to California and have a chat with Anton LaVey the high priest of the church of Satan.

Some of these (DA:O) are the usual people-pulling-bullshit-out-of-their-sunbrighted-arses, but I suppose with Dante's Inferno he has rather hit the nail on the head.

I propose a simple solution: If you don't like 'em, don't buy 'em.

One simple thing for reply to this: HAIL SATAN!!

It's their fault for believing the whole red devil thing and the dude in the sky no one can see. To me it is nothing more than mythology, a figment of imagination.

How come I get a feeling the religiosity movements catch wind of this people will start hearing sermons such as..."Thou shall not play video games!"

I'm all for it. Makes a change from zombies, Nazis, terrorists and space Nazis! Lol

Game Dogs: Based on actual events

This is just one whinny journalist complaining. There is always people complaining about stupid stuff. Its interesting to hear sometimes, but this just sounds like yet another angry person yelling on the internet.

What? No mention of Brutal Legend? I'm disappointed...

Wait...I thought in most games dealing with Satan that you're fighting him, which I thought was supposed to be a good thing?

Ugh, it's people like these that give us Christians a bad name.

Everyone, as a fairly devout Catholic, let me be the first to say that I think video games dealing with Satan are quite fun.

tomtom94:
Some of these (DA:O) are the usual people-pulling-bullshit-out-of-their-sunbrighted-arses, but I suppose with Dante's Inferno he has rather hit the nail on the head.

I propose a simple solution: If you don't like 'em, don't buy 'em.

But even in Dante's Inferno, your main objective was to redeem your love and then kick the Devil's ass.

Hehehehe. Aren't they cute when they're all annoyed?

Anyway, surely Satan is the great tempter? You know he'd be working for Acti/Blizzard where God would be at Atari.

Anyway, how do you get to become an "avid gamer"? Do you have to beat Peggle on Hard?

Ugh, people always need to complain about something. When is the whole "video games are destroying our youth" thing gonna blow over? There are quite a few other issues we sould focus on "with in this age of technology".

I haven't seen many games where you work with Satan. Most seem to have you doing the opposite and kicking his ass. The others don't even seem to have anything to do with christianity except for having similar words like god. Why are witches supposedly inherently evil anyway?

presidentjlh:

tomtom94:
Some of these (DA:O) are the usual people-pulling-bullshit-out-of-their-sunbrighted-arses, but I suppose with Dante's Inferno he has rather hit the nail on the head.

I propose a simple solution: If you don't like 'em, don't buy 'em.

But even in Dante's Inferno, your main objective was to redeem your love and then kick the Devil's ass.

The advertising campaign did rather focus on Hell and Satan rather than that though...

Well, considering Satan is a mythological figure associated with Abrahamic religions, this really only concerns them, doesn't it? And since they're on the decline in the world (due to a stunningly awesome image they've given themselves) I guess it's less and less of a concern as time goes by?

Wait...I thought in most games dealing with Satan that you're fighting him, which I thought was supposed to be a good thing?

Ugh, it's people like these that give us Christians a bad name.

Everyone, as a fairly devout Catholic, let me be the first to say that I think video games dealing with Satan are quite fun.

This too. I'm a Christian myself, and I even -play- Dragon Age. I don't play Dante's Inferno, but that's only because I don't like the God of War style of gameplay, not that I think it's "evil." The premise actually did intrigue me.

Pifft! Let the devil try and take my soul, he'll have to fight Blizzard and Bungie for it and we all know that nothing has yet been able to take down wow or match the rampent fanboyism of halo.

Well the trend exists, but actually I don't think it's serious Satanism. I'm a Christian and my thoughts on the subject is that the majority of these games are pure works of fantasy, that oftentimes are asking philsophical questions. Within Christianity there are numerous questions about why the devil rebelled, the nature of hell, the relationship between god and the devil, what happened to the heavenly host that followed The Devil, and other issues. Not to mention some of the more over the top things God did in The Bible. Anyone with any spiritual thought into Christianity has wondered about these things (I'd call anyone who claims otherwise a liar). This leads to people wondering about things like "well, if God was actually responsible for some of the things he did in The Old Testament, maybe The Devil is actually the good guy and rebelled on behalf of humanity". This leads to them writing stories and such about it, voicing their questions, many of which are quite legitimate. God certainly hasn't come down for a Q&A session recently.

I consider a game exploring such elements to simply be fantasy, and storytelling. I have yet to find a single game that I felt was trying to say "this is how things really are, you should worship The Devil because he's a nice guy".

In some cases there isn't even that kind of thought behind it. In cases like the Shin Megami Tensei games, they use figures from pretty much all religions, ancient ones, and ones that are practiced today like Hinduism. None of these forces are portrayed as being truely "ultimate" it seems, and really they are just using Christian beliefs alongside others as part of the game, with none of them being especially accurate portrayals, especially given the massive co-existance of so many beings. What's more in many of the SMT games they seem to define various spiritual entities as part of the collected soul of humanity and our beliefs. If anything it's using atheism or agnosticism more than Satanism. Remember this is a series where the hero might have Messiah (Jesus I believe) and Satan as tag-team partners operating out of his head in some versions.

Then again while a Christian, I am a Christian agnostic, in part because I've wondered many of these same things. I believe in god as a benevolent being of pure good. That means that while I believe in him, and Jesus as our savior, I do not take The Bible as a literal record preserved by his hand of what he actualy said, did, or wants. This is largely because in stories like the one about "Abraham" I can't see a benevolent being trying to get someone to kill his kid in their honor, only to basically go "psyche" at the last moment. There are a number of things like that, especially old Testament... and really... if he's like that I'm not entirely sure he could claim to be better than The Devil. I do not want to believe in a pessimistic world where there is no good, so I feel that The Bible is incorrect and God is truely benevolent.

As a benevolrnet being I do not believe he is going to punish people for asking questions, and framing them in the form of stories and hypothetical situations.

What's more it should also be noted that some of those games are defined as being "horror" and the way they define the universe is part of what makes them freaky and scary. Think about it, if god WAS evil, what would that mean? Following through on that idea in a work of fantasy does not mean your saying that is what is true. What's more in some cases your dealing with dark stories of vengeance and some of those games with evil, satanic, type protaganists are not portraying what's going on as nessicarly a good thing. That's part of the point and why it's an "M" rated horror story. In general they provoke thought, and that is the point.

An "M" rating doesn't specifically address religion (obviously) since the law at least in the US cannot be biased, but it does tend to be used in cases where your dealing with wierd ideas. In a game with no good guys for all intents and purposes it gets rated "M" because you need an adult who can clearly seperate fantasy from reality and realize there is no real world basis for this. Something a kid might not be able to deal with, he can tell fantasy from reality to an extent, but might come away far more influanced than he should be.

Such are my (rather long) thoughts. Sadly I can't address the original source.

tomtom94:
Some of these (DA:O) are the usual people-pulling-bullshit-out-of-their-sunbrighted-arses, but I suppose with Dante's Inferno he has rather hit the nail on the head.

Wasn't the whole premise of Dante's Inferno (I haven't actually played it) to go around slaughtering the hell living daylights poop out of the denizens of Hell?

I mean, that doesn't exactly sound like 'devil worship' stuff to me.

again though, not played it.

tomtom94:

presidentjlh:

tomtom94:
Some of these (DA:O) are the usual people-pulling-bullshit-out-of-their-sunbrighted-arses, but I suppose with Dante's Inferno he has rather hit the nail on the head.

I propose a simple solution: If you don't like 'em, don't buy 'em.

But even in Dante's Inferno, your main objective was to redeem your love and then kick the Devil's ass.

The advertising campaign did rather focus on Hell and Satan rather than that though...

True, true, but then one's beef is with the marketing department, not the game developers.

The fact that they worry about this merely shows how brainwashed they were in their youth, and how easily offended they are by completely trivial stuff. I've yet to hear about people turning satanic/pagan/heathen or even atheist by games;

Religions -themselves- manage that just fine!

This guy's a loon.

I could have sworn that Lucifer was the final boss of Dante's Inferno...

Amnestic:

tomtom94:
Some of these (DA:O) are the usual people-pulling-bullshit-out-of-their-sunbrighted-arses, but I suppose with Dante's Inferno he has rather hit the nail on the head.

Wasn't the whole premise of Dante's Inferno (I haven't actually played it) to go around slaughtering the hell living daylights poop out of the denizens of Hell?

I mean, that doesn't exactly sound like 'devil worship' stuff to me.

again though, not played it.

I played it through, and the game was basically the opposite of "devil worship". Your goal was redemption from sin, and to save an innocent soul from Hell. In the end, you fight Satan himself (If anyone considers that a spoiler, you lack common sense.)

For once, I stand strongly behind the constitution (mostly because, like most video game "controversies", i can't be asked to really give a damn): "religious freedom" is the keyword(s). What are atheists gonna say? For me, being one, it's just one more fantasy setting, seriously xD
For the more religious people here: If you prove to me that satanic games are NOT made to show that hell is bad and you should go to church regularly, then I will totally take your side :P

You know, it's people like this that give Christianity a bad name.
Well, that and the people standing at stop lights claiming the World is going to end every day for 3 months.

Still, at least the sign people give me a good chuckle, seeing as any so called Prophet worth his salt would know that the bible says not even the Angels above know when the end comes, let alone some homeless guy with a Marker.

Why does this remind me of the AVGN Super Mario Bros. 3 review, where the game is possesed by the devil.

I have to get back to you on this one, I have blood magic to practice.

Had no idea there was sex involved, I should pay more attention this time.

As a roman catholic, I really see this as shallow and hypocritical of Christians to condemn games with this theme. Be it another religion, they wouldn't say a damn thing.

Ever notice how you never see satanist complaining about too many pro-christian games?

Eye warship satin?

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