OnLive Goes Live in June

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OnLive Goes Live in June

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OnLive has announced plans to launch its streaming videogame service in June, with support from major publishers including Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, Take-Two and more.

OnLive revealed yesterday that its cloud-based gaming service would be opened to the North American market on June 17, the last day of E3, for a monthly subscription fee of $14.95. That price "provides access to an ever-increasing library of high-end, new release game content and a host of exclusive community feature such as Brag Clips and massive spectating," OnLive Chief Operating Officer Mike McGarvey told MCV.

"Individual titles will be available for purchase or rental on an a la carte basis. Specific game pricing, including rentals, purchases and loyalty programs, will be announced prior to the consumer launch event at E3," he said. "We'll also be announcing additional loyalty and discount programs for consumers in the coming months."

OnLive launch titles will include Assassin's Creed 2 and Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands from Ubisoft and Metro 2033 from THQ, and McGarvey said the number of games being readied for the service was growing rapidly. "We're very pleased with the degree of publisher support received to date and have seen a rise in publisher interest in the OnLive Game Service as their focus begins shifting dramatically toward digital distribution," he added.

The service will initially only be available for the PC and Mac, and only in the U.S. McGarvey said an announcement regarding the promised "MicroConsole" would be made later this year and asked gamers to "stay tuned" for news about OnLive's European launch plans.

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Oh hell ya. I'm definitely gonna give this a shot, see how it works out. Might be a good fix for my occasional single player itch. Sure as hell won't hurt to try it!

Andy Chalk:
including rentals

Monthly fee?

It's like GameFly, but without the delivery, and a fee on top of that!

Rentals, digital distribution style!

I like it. Because renting a PC game like this is VERY different, since there is no delivery times. Sometimes...you don't wanna spend $60 on a PC game that's 5-10 hours long...

True: You could pirate it, instead of renting/buying it, if you're a giant douchebag.

$15 a month on top of the $50 price for the games?

I think I'll stick with my $400 gaming PC I've had for 2 years thank you. It still works just fine.

I've been waiting for this, it looks good, but looks aren't everything

It's going to cost cash? Steam will win. Might not be streaming, but Steam is free. Not to mention that, if needed, Valve could really just tell all companies using Steam to chose Steam or OnLive, and Steam would win instantly. Oh, and OnLive, your name/trademark might be brushing a bit too close to Microsoft, being 2 letters away and all. So, yeah, the founders of this are trying to anger everyone.

I'll stick with Steam. Hopefully this competition will lower their prices even further, and they could certainly take a look at the rental angle . . .

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Destal:
But if you factor in the fact that you could play crysis 2 on a $500 PC at the highest graphics vs having to pay $2000 for your computer to run it on its own it doesn't sound as bad.

Please. Any geek worth anything could build a top of the line machine for $700-900. When you pay $2000, 70% of that is paying for the label, same as buying brand name clothes.

Also, they will never be able to completely eliminate lag, not even with 100% perfect conditions.

Also, see the hassle Ubisoft's DRM is causing? This is MUCH worse than that in terms of problems.

Also, this might be [note: MIGHT] plausible in the USA or other countries with great telecommunications services, but this would be totally impossible in, I would say, MOST countries.

~~~

*Takes breath*

Also, the damn thing only goes up to 720p, as opposed to normal computers, which can go up to whatever the hell you want.*

Also, there's probably a million and a half other problems I can't think of right now.

*Depending on what monitor you have, naturally.

Hmm, I'll have to keep an eye on this, but they're definitely going to need some exclusives to really get people buying.

This thing has good niche applications - but i DO NOT WANT it to become "one and only" PC gaming platform. You can't play offline, can't mod stuff, can't even be sure your games remain yours. Lots of drawbacks. So let it remain - as a glorified rental service.

Onyx Oblivion:

Andy Chalk:
including rentals

True: You could pirate it, instead of renting/buying it, if you're a giant douchebag.

Yup, but this is a nice alternative for those games you don't wanna fork out 50 bucks for, yet are curious about regardless. I know there are many-a PC game that fall under that category for me, or I'm just not so sure about. And now I have a better path to take.

Funny that their first big name announcements are Ubisoft titles seeing as how this is essentially Ubi's DRM scheme with the addition of a monthly fee. I can see the appeal of potentially being able to play something well above your own system's specs, but.. really?

Kollega:
This thing has good niche applications - but i DO NOT WANT it to become "one and only" PC gaming platform. You can't play offline, can't mod stuff, can't even be sure your games remain yours. So let it remain - as a glorified rental service.

This is another reason Steam will be the only PC gaming service one day, and not this thing. As soon as people figure out that with this there is no modding, it will die faster than a red shirt.

uppitycracker:

Onyx Oblivion:

Andy Chalk:
including rentals

True: You could pirate it, instead of renting/buying it, if you're a giant douchebag.

Yup, but this is a nice alternative for those games you don't wanna fork out 50 bucks for, yet are curious about regardless. I know there are many-a PC game that fall under that category for me, or I'm just not so sure about. And now I have a better path to take.

Exactly my point. You can rent short PC games. Consoles, renting is easy, PC...not so much.

Now, PC gamers can rent, too!

Kollega:
This thing has good niche applications - but i DO NOT WANT it to become "one and only" PC gaming platform.

It won't. I'm calling it right now, this service is going to struggle out of the gate, and unless there are many features not yet revealed or they offer significant discounts on games, it'll stay that way.

StriderShinryu:
Funny that their first big name announcements are Ubisoft titles seeing as how this is essentially Ubi's DRM scheme with the addition of a monthly fee. I can see the appeal of potentially being able to play something well above your own system's specs, but.. really?

Plus, like said above, no modding. OnLive, pissing off modders, Microsoft, and quite likely Valve. Not a good way to bust in to the PC market.

Crimsane:

Kollega:
This thing has good niche applications - but i DO NOT WANT it to become "one and only" PC gaming platform.

It won't. I'm calling it right now, this service is going to struggle out of the gate, and unless there are many features not yet revealed or they offer significant discounts on games, it'll stay that way.

And neither will happen, it will fail faster than a Betamax.

Now this looks like a good idea. I am really into this and looking forward to seeing what it will lead.

A possible new lead in the way of gaming? Possibly. I am hoping so as it means alternatives, and alternatives, and choice are always good!

Onyx Oblivion:

Exactly my point. You can rent short PC games. Consoles, renting is easy, PC...not so much.

Now, PC gamers can rent, too!

If that's what you want, isn't gametap like this, only much, much, much better? And you don't have to pay for each individual game? And with a bigger library? And no lag?

Nimbus:

Onyx Oblivion:

Exactly my point. You can rent short PC games. Consoles, renting is easy, PC...not so much.

Now, PC gamers can rent, too!

If that's what you want, isn't gametap like this, only much, much, much better? And you don't have to pay for each individual game? And with a bigger library? And no lag?

But Gametap's library is...well...lacking. This is to, at the moment, but likely won't be for long.

So you pay $15 a month, then you "buy" a game for $60, and when you aren't paying those $15 a month, your game is gone.

That's not even counting the collosal internet connection requirements that are completely unfeasable outside major metropolitan in the usa and the fact that all the graphics(their main selling point) they provide are utter shit. Crysis was played on Low during their conference and PoP looked suspiciously like the console version. Then there's the input lag issue and the fact that i greatly doubt that they have the hardware to support any of it. Ubishit can't keep their goddamn login server online so why the fuck should we trust a nobody to do that AND keep enough hardware power in reverse to actually play the games?

So remote access gaming, eh? I'm more interested in how the frame-rates will be. Technically speaking, this seems like it will rely heavily on you having a REALLY good internet connection. I'm intrigued and hope they'll offer some kind of free-trial for skeptics like me.

I'll try this, provided they have some sort of free demo trial thing.
Otherwise, color me skeptical.

Does anyone else realize what this means? It's streaming games, that quite possibly means no local saved games, if you can save at all, requiring a constant and extremely fast Internet connection, AND if you should ever get disconnected for any reason, all your progress is shot. If you're going to buy into this, you might as well buy into Ubisoft's new DRM thing too.
Incidentally I find it interesting that several of their launch titles are from Ubisoft.

i might actually pick this up. 15 bucks a months isnt bad at all for all the newest games. this could be really awesome if it succeeds.

Good god do I hope this crashes and burns...

Monthly fee? Why should we have to pay for the ability to buy a game. I'll be sticking with Steam.

Hmmm...at least now I know what "OnLive" is. I remember seeing stickers for it at PAX09 though I don't recall seeing any other info or even a booth for them; I think the stickers came in the swag-bag handed out upon reaching the show (had the PAX09 booklet and other advert-things in it.)

Wait, don't we already have GameTap for something like this? Or is OnLive something totally different?

Asehujiko:
So you pay $15 a month, then you "buy" a game for $60, and when you aren't paying those $15 a month, your game is gone.

That's not even counting the collosal internet connection requirements that are completely unfeasable outside major metropolitan in the usa and the fact that all the graphics(their main selling point) they provide are utter shit. Crysis was played on Low during their conference and PoP looked suspiciously like the console version. Then there's the input lag issue and the fact that i greatly doubt that they have the hardware to support any of it. Ubishit can't keep their goddamn login server online so why the fuck should we trust a nobody to do that AND keep enough hardware power in reverse to actually play the games?

I agree with this, but the swearing and the pointless insult to consoles were unneeded. But, still, this is why Steam is awesome. Free forever, and everything is local.

Colour me unintrested, sorry to say.

I'm confused about this...

So it's a program for the PC, initially? Where you have to pay $15 monthly subscription - more then your usual MMO. Then you have to pay on top of that the price of the game?
What's the advantage here (apart from the rentals bit, which seems to be the only plus I can see), if anyone can clarify?

I don't particularly get why they charge $15 on top of actually buying/renting the games. Sort of a bit off-putting.

So I pay a subscription, buy a game...and then if I stop paying the sub I lose the investment in my game? I'll keep my shiny disc thank you very much...

Nimbus:
Pasted from non-news-post thread:

Destal:
But if you factor in the fact that you could play crysis 2 on a $500 PC at the highest graphics vs having to pay $2000 for your computer to run it on its own it doesn't sound as bad.

Please. Any geek worth anything could build a top of the line machine for $700-900. When you pay $2000, 70% of that is paying for the label, same as buying brand name clothes.

Also, they will never be able to completely eliminate lag, not even with 100% perfect conditions.

Also, see the hassle Ubisoft's DRM is causing? This is MUCH worse than that in terms of problems.

Also, this might be [note: MIGHT] plausible in the USA or other countries with great telecommunications services, but this would be totally impossible in, I would say, MOST countries.

~~~

*Takes breath*

Also, the damn thing only goes up to 720p, as opposed to normal computers, which can go up to whatever the hell you want.*

Also, there's probably a million and a half other problems I can't think of right now.

*Depending on what monitor you have, naturally.

Notice, I said eventually. Figure in the fact that some companies are offering fiber optic directly to your home net speeds should start drastically increasing in the next few years. Also, if you could explain how you could build a top of the line computer for $900, when the newest graphics cards are ~$400 alone. The point is that you wouldn't have to worry about upgrading your computer every few years to stay at the highest graphics for the newest games. Hell, as more and more stuff can be streamed through your TV as well these days it could be plausible to eventually see this kind of service built directly into the TV, then all you need is a wireless/BT mouse and keyboard.

Ill stick with steam

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