Command & Conquer's Kane Didn't Anticipate Ongoing Storyline

Command & Conquer's Kane Didn't Anticipate Ongoing Storyline

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Joe Kucan directed the cut-scenes and starred as Kane in each Command & Conquer game, but he admits to making it all up as he went along.

The Command & Conquer franchise has been around a long time. You could even argue that it jump-started the real time strategy genre way back in 1995. But even though Joe Kucan holds the Guiness World Record for longest-running continuous portrayal in a videogame for his role as Kane, he had no idea that the first game would be the birth of a franchise. And when each installment was made, it may have been the last, so Kucan said that's why he is just as much in the dark as to what Kane's true origins are.

"When we did the very first game I thought it was going to be a one off," Kucan said. "Command & Conquer, maybe an expansion disc and then move on to another Command & Conquer-like game. I didn't realise that we were creating a franchise.

"Games hadn't really begun to franchise then. Adventure games like Police Quest had franchises, but the idea of a franchised game never really occurred to me - I didn't have that sort of vision. It's just mind boggling."

It is certainly true that the videogame industry was much less interested in eternally sequelizing back then (excluding RPGs like Ultima and King's Quest). But still, Kucan was reluctant to tell his audience that the overarching backstory for Command & Conquer was essentially written for each game. As Kucan says:

We don't like to admit this but we made it all up as we went along. The truth about Command & Conquer is that we never really planned on a giant, sweeping arc of a story that would create canon from one game to the other. We knew we'd created holes that we needed to fill, so we just made it up as we went along. There was really no grand, sweeping plan and I think that's what made it so much fun.

We've left a lot of unanswered questions that the players can go back and fill in themselves. Whenever I kind of wink and nod and say, 'Yeah, I know what's going on,' I'm lying through my teeth. I don't have the slightest idea. I don't know who Kane is, where Kane came from, what he wants or where he's going. We just make it up as we go along and let the players sort it all out.

So where do you think Kane came from? Or more importantly, where is he now? I personally think he found his true calling and is now editor in chief of a certain videogame website.

Source: CVG

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The character Kane is awesome. Too bad the series went down hill after Tiberium Sun.

Not sure where he is now. Haven't played CnC4.

Hehe! I loved his characer not the less and they may have made it up as they went along but it still was something great

Plus he looked cool as hell!

ALL HAIL THE MESSIAH!

You can't stop the true god!

*Raises Rifle into the air*

Oooh-RAAAAA!

Seriously, Joe's the reasone C&C (Aside from the great gameplay, of course) has survied this long, i mean, could you imagine the games without him?

No, you can't, now shut up.

So what that they made stuff up it. It was still awesome regardless and Kane is without a doubt one of my most favorite characters of all time.

"IN THE NAME OF KANE!"

KANE LIVES IN DEATH SPACE...wherever the hell he is.

Sir Kemper:
ALL HAIL THE MESSIAH!

You can't stop the true god!

*Raises Rifle into the air*

Oooh-RAAAAA!

Seriously, Joe's the reasone C&C (Aside from the great gameplay, of course) has survied this long, i mean, could you imagine the games without him?

No, you can't, now shut up.

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That is all.

Still, Kane is awesome, no one else is bonkers enough to hug an ion cannon beam.

Oh, how I miss the old days when game titles weren't punctuated with numbers, and they made each title like it would be an only child. None of this cliffhanger ending bullshit where Game 1 and 2 feel incomplete until 3 comes out. Oh, hey, Valve. How's that HL2 Episode 3 coming along? Going to release it before Halflife 3?

Ignoring the abortion that was C&C4, Kane is primed to conquer the galaxy with Legion at his side.

They just made it up as they went along? Holy shit that's awesome.

Even with some of the unfavorable stuff I've heard about CnC4 I'm still interested in getting it for the single-player. C'mon, it's Joe freakin' Kucan for crying out loud. That picture is exactly what I think of when I think of an all-knowing master overlord. KANE LIVES!!

Did he?
He just referenced Police Quest!
Four more stars to his awesometer!

C&C proves that making it up as you go along can be just a successful as Babylon 5 proves planning ahead can be successful as well(not counting the spinoffs).

In the name of Kane!

redmarine:
The character Kane is awesome. Too bad the series went down hill after Tiberium Sun.

I never really got the Tiberian Sun fans. Sure the FMVs were the best, but the gameplay was slow. Not in a good tactical way either, everything just took ages from unit production to moving towards the enemy.

dekkarax:

Sir Kemper:
ALL HAIL THE MESSIAH!

You can't stop the true god!

*Raises Rifle into the air*

Oooh-RAAAAA!

Seriously, Joe's the reasone C&C (Aside from the great gameplay, of course) has survied this long, i mean, could you imagine the games without him?

No, you can't, now shut up.

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That is all.

Still, Kane is awesome, no one else is bonkers enough to hug an ion cannon beam.

Kane orchestrated the events of the original red alert =P
Pretty sure he talks with einstien and gets him to go back in time. He also is an advisor to the soviets in the first red alert.

Haha, Russ does look so much like Kane... Although I still enjoy comparing our beloved (ahem) editor-in-chief to Cipher from the original Matrix movie... ;)

Khell_Sennet:
Oh, how I miss the old days when game titles weren't punctuated with numbers, and they made each title like it would be an only child. None of this cliffhanger ending bullshit where Game 1 and 2 feel incomplete until 3 comes out. Oh, hey, Valve. How's that HL2 Episode 3 coming along? Going to release it before Halflife 3?

Eh... you do realize Ultima 7 came out in 1992, right? Game franchises have been around for a long while. Donkey Kong is widely credited as the first narrative videogame. That immediately created two sequels and, arguably, the most successful spinoff franchise ever: Super Mario Bros.

It's one thing that it wasn't a given in 94 that a game would go on as a long term franchise, but it is completely false that it didn't happen back then. Heck, Command & Conquer was a spiritual sequel to Dune II, which in turn was a reboot of sorts of Dune (which was an awesome adventure game-turn based strategy hybrid that is very unfairly forgotten, by the way).

Okay, that went on a tangent a bit, but my point is clear: we've always had game franchises. Isn't that right, Ms. Pac-man?

That's actually pretty hilarious when you imagine the thousands of fanboys who probably debated this kind of thing online only to find out it has all just been put together haphazardly.

Huh, I always kind of suspected that they didn't really have an overarching plan, but it certainly didn't stop me from speculating about the origins of Kane and his Brotherhood of Nod.

In the name of Kane!

Kane lives in death!

Kane lives!

Watching that cutscene the first time gave me chills, so awesome.

Noelveiga:

Khell_Sennet:
Oh, how I miss the old days when game titles weren't punctuated with numbers, and they made each title like it would be an only child. None of this cliffhanger ending bullshit where Game 1 and 2 feel incomplete until 3 comes out. Oh, hey, Valve. How's that HL2 Episode 3 coming along? Going to release it before Halflife 3?

Eh... you do realize Ultima 7 came out in 1992, right? Game franchises have been around for a long while. Donkey Kong is widely credited as the first narrative videogame. That immediately created two sequels and, arguably, the most successful spinoff franchise ever: Super Mario Bros.

It's one thing that it wasn't a given in 94 that a game would go on as a long term franchise, but it is completely false that it didn't happen back then. Heck, Command & Conquer was a spiritual sequel to Dune II, which in turn was a reboot of sorts of Dune (which was an awesome adventure game-turn based strategy hybrid that is very unfairly forgotten, by the way).

Okay, that went on a tangent a bit, but my point is clear: we've always had game franchises. Isn't that right, Ms. Pac-man?

T'wasn't talkin 90's, more 80's. Sequels were for consoles, computer games were plentiful and unique, and only select genres really franchised. For every Police Quest 2 or Commander Keen 2, there were hundreds of stand-alone new titles.

Gildan Bladeborn:
Huh, I always kind of suspected that they didn't really have an overarching plan, but it certainly didn't stop me from speculating about the origins of Kane and his Brotherhood of Nod.

In the name of Kane!

Kane lives in death!

Kane lives!

Watching that cutscene the first time gave me chills, so awesome.

What the first time? That still gives me chills.

Loki892:

Gildan Bladeborn:

In the name of Kane!

Kane lives in death!

Kane lives!

Watching that cutscene the first time gave me chills, so awesome.

What the first time? That still gives me chills.

Well I specified the first time, because now I don't even have to watch it, I just need to think about that scene and lo, chills appear!

Kind of like how I can spontaneously make myself start crying by thinking of any scene from a movie that made me cry (crying is manly damn it!).

Khell_Sennet:

T'wasn't talkin 90's, more 80's. Sequels were for consoles, computer games were plentiful and unique, and only select genres really franchised. For every Police Quest 2 or Commander Keen 2, there were hundreds of stand-alone new titles.

Well, I refer to my Pac-man and DK comments. Also Ultima, Saboteur, Army Moves, Freddy Hardest, Double Dragon, Super Mario, Pitfall, Dizzy, Tetris, Zelda, King's Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Wizardy, Barbarian, Arkanoid, Bard's Tale, Eye of the Beholder, Spider-man, Batman, and many, many others. The fact that those were new back then doesn't mean they weren't franchises.

redmarine:
The character Kane is awesome. Too bad the series went down hill after Tiberium Sun.

Not sure where he is now. Haven't played CnC4.

You really shouldn't: Sometimes ignorance IS bliss...

The gameplay may have deteriorated somewhat since the good ol' days (though I still quite liked C&C3), but C&C4 goes that extra length to replace it with a watered down version of Dawn of War's, and butcher the story as well. I'll give a hint of what it's like in the spoiler below (spoilered because anyone familiar with these movies might be able to guess major parts of the plot from them).

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Gildan Bladeborn:
Huh, I always kind of suspected that they didn't really have an overarching plan, but it certainly didn't stop me from speculating about the origins of Kane and his Brotherhood of Nod.

In the name of Kane!

Kane lives in death!

Kane lives!

Watching that cutscene the first time gave me chills, so awesome.

Peace through Power!
Peace through Power!

"It's time you saw the future, while you still have human eyes." Or not, according to Kucan.

Kane is quite easily one of my favourite, if not my number one favourite, videogame characters in existence.

If the events of the tiberium universe happened I definitely think I'd be with NOD.

"I live for Kane, I die for Kane: the difference is trivial."

Awexsome:
They just made it up as they went along? Holy shit that's awesome.

Even with some of the unfavorable stuff I've heard about CnC4 I'm still interested in getting it for the single-player. C'mon, it's Joe freakin' Kucan for crying out loud. That picture is exactly what I think of when I think of an all-knowing master overlord. KANE LIVES!!

Let me put it like this. Kane(ie Joe Kucan) is the only reason you'll get C&C4 for. It's certainly the only reason I got it for!

Yeah the gameplay ain't C&C. :(

Halyah:
Let me put it like this. Kane(ie Joe Kucan) is the only reason you'll get C&C4 for.

I know that's the only reason I want to buy it.

I really hope he finds more live action cutscene work now that C&C is finished. I less than 3 Russ Pitts Joe Kucan.

Yeah, this figures. The story started really good, when it was simply "meglomaniac and his private high tech guerilla army vs world" - now they're just grasping straws.

But hey, all good things must come to an end.

Personally, I favor the "Am I my brothers keeper?" theory.

Amnestic:

Halyah:
Let me put it like this. Kane(ie Joe Kucan) is the only reason you'll get C&C4 for.

I know that's the only reason I want to buy it.

I really hope he finds more live action cutscene work now that C&C is finished. I less than 3 Russ Pitts Joe Kucan.

Yeah that would be interesting. Though I don't get how C&C4 could fall so far compared to C&C3. What made them think that the not-C&C combat system would work? ?_?

 

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