Rumor: Will Smith Signs On for Independence Day Sequels

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Rumor: Will Smith Signs On for Independence Day Sequels

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Flush in money after the ludicrous success of James Cameron's Avatar, 20th Century Fox has reportedly locked down actor Will Smith to return for a pair of sequels to the 1996 blockbuster Independence Day (aka ID4).

It may be hard to think back to a time before the incredible success of Avatar, The Dark Knight, Pirates of the Caribbean and Titanic, but there was in fact a point when the second-highest grossing movie of all time was a little action blockbuster called Independence Day.

Released in 1996, ID4 told the story of humanity's resistance against an alien invasion of Earth, and went on to gross some $816,969,268 at the box office worldwide. With that sort of success, it's no wonder that Hollywood big wigs have been wanting to make a sequel for quite some time, but there was a catch. While the film's stars Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum and Bill Pullman were all decently well-known at the time, Mr. Smith has become quite a bit more successful since 1996 (in part due to the success of ID4, ironically) and is now one of the most expensive movie actors around.

20th Century Fox executives were unwilling to shellac out the cash necessary to get Smith on board for an ID4 comeback - at least, they were unwilling to do so before James Cameron's Avatar left them swimming in moolah. Now, reports IESB, Will Smith has reportedly been locked into not one but two ID4 sequels, which will allegedly be made back-to-back (like the Lord of the Rings films, or the second and third parts of both the Matrix and Pirates of the Caribbean trilogies).

The film will supposedly be directed and written by the original ID4 duo, Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin (respectively), and given that Emmerich just recently flexed his disaster-movie chops in 2012, should feature lots of things blowing up very, very prettily. According to IESB's sources, though, production on ID4-2 will have to wait until both Emmerich and Smith are done with their current projects (Emmerich is directing Shakespearean thriller Anonymous, while Smith is working on either The City That Sailed or Men in Black 3).

I'm not sure what exactly the story could be for another ID4, let alone two of them. The aliens return, we fight them off again - twice? What gives? But I do know that I loved the hell out of the first movie, so maybe they'll be guilty pleasure popcorn flicks. Actually, I'm pretty sure there's no "maybe" there at all.

Now, just because I can, I'm embedding Bill Pullman's speech from the end of ID4 - also known as one of the most awesome moments in anything ever:

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I don't know... It might work but knowing the film industry it will be shit.

Hmmm... I really loved that movie...
Its probably my favourite alien flick
But a sequel?

It seemed like one of a more one-off kinda films to me...
But a sequel could fit in...

Do they get to blow up the weirdo hippies? Or did they finally learn?

Aw, who am I kidding... they never learn, they're going to get blown up again and I'll see it on the Big Screen once more!

Hopefully they end up being better than the rubbish Men in black sequels

How could they make a second one?

Well, I would welcome it as long as it didnt go too far into the rediculous...

And also, that is the most epic speech ever, agreed!

I think I am gonna be the first to say WOOHOO!

it will have to be good to be able to cover 2 movies, i liked the Matrix Trilogy but i know that reloaded and revelations should have only been 1 movie

As I read this announcement, I'm reminded of the fake commercials at the beginning of Tropic Thunder - specifically the fake franchise action movie trailer for Scorcher, when Tug Speedman (Ben Stiller) says "Here we go again... again".

I'm exceedingly curious how they'd even justify one sequel to Independence Day, but two? I see no possible way that reasoning will be something other than hysterically amusing in it's stupidity. Yay laughter!

Will Smith will be in it? That already makes it a guaranteed success.

Well, I need to see the first.

I wasn't kidding when I told everyone I don't watch movies.

Why does he keep calling it ID4?

Sorry if I'm out of the loop

Also these movies will probably be terrible. There is no need for a sequel when everything tied up nicely in the first one.
Also as I recall the movie made so much money because it was released on American Independence day and was heavily advertised suggesting people to see it opening day.

Could be good, but Movie Sequels fluctuate with quality, so lets wait and see.

Calumon: BIG WILLIE STYLE!

Goosebumps...every time.

A sequel? Why its like War of the Worlds 2!!! Damn pointless!!!

The aliens were decimated by humans, so what their children from the planet Zyrhoas have grown up and want to avenge their parents death?

Also i see this film being covered in the unpleasant goo of american patriotism. So im calling it now,

THE ALIENS ARE GOING TO INVADE IN THE SAME BLOODY WEEK AS THEY DID BEFORE!!!

I predict that the ID4-2 will end the same way as Halo 2.

President "Will Smith what are you doing on that ship?"
Will Smith "Sir, finishing this fight!"

Independence Day was brilliant. For a number of reasons, mainly though because of Will Smith's reaction to the alien popping out of the ship.
*PUNCH*
Y'know, this was supposed to be my weekend off. But no! You got me out here, draggin' your heavy ass, through the burnin' desert, with your dreadlocks sticking out the back of my parachute. You gotta come down here with an attitude, actin' all big and bad. And what the hell is that smell?! [screams and kicks the alien] I could've been at a barbecue! But I ain't mad.

TODAY WE CELEBRATE OUR INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!

I just got a snippet of the new story planned for the sequels;

It is revealed that the alien overlord is Steve Jobs, and his Apple products contain mind control technology. The President will once again give his Independance Day speech near the end.

Emmerich, who made the first movie was quoted as saying "Duh Apple is the big overlord, I'm surprised no one put that together at the end of the first movie. What are the odds that an Apple laptop are compatible with a totally unknown alien computer system?"

Independence Day was a brilliant film. I don't know if I want more Will Smith though.

OH GOD YES!!!!

I can think of many ways they could make this a success, and just as many ways they could fuck the whole thing up. I'll therefore reserve any judgment until I've at least seen a trailer and have some base understanding of what they're selling us in the way of story and cast.

Geamo:
Independence Day was brilliant.

Independence Day sucks a monkeys ass in space.

The story: bland "aliens invade earth" setup
The mood: Americans are the greatest. Save the planet, again
The content: arcade F-16s fighting alien spacecraft. Winning, of course
Ridiculous plot point 1: air force pilot learns to fly alien spacecraft in 10 seconds
Ridiculous plot point 2: ex pilot flies up alien motherships ass, mothership explodes
Ridiculous plot point 3: humans fly hijacked alien fighter right into alien home base. Super advanced aliens clueless
Inexcusably, outrageously ridiculous plot point 4: humans upload a computer virus onto alien home base. Humans win.

I don't think you have to have a masters in computer science to realize how incredibly stupid that last one is. Uploading a computer virus onto completely unknown alien technology and displaying a laughing skull on their monitors is just completely off the charts on my intergalactic stupidity meter. Roland Emmerich: FAIL

And I'm sure 2 and 3 will suck just as much, if not more. I'll pass, thanks.

Roland Emmerich made a few good movies. Joey and Stargate are awesome. Unfortunately after Stargate everything he produced has been a 100% special-effects orgy with 0% brain.

If they were smart (so in other words unlikely to happen) they would advance the time line far enough that earth has reaped the benefits of having more salvaged alien technology. It would make for a more interesting setting and an earth that has not done so won't be recovered from that first attack inside of Will Smith's character's lifetime given the widespread destruction of infrastructure.

The aliens were space gypsies who travel world to world so they can harvest resources before moving on. The first movie didn't mention if their entire race was on that particular flotilla or not. Some may have survived all their ships getting wrecked and are holding out on the parts of earth humans are mostly gone from it would be a good reason for them to be in the second movie but otherwise it should really be a different race. If they have more migrant fleets out there and more of them show up for revenge they will win, end of story, unless humans have done a lot with the tech they should have been able to salvage. If that is the case the planetary defense grid will handle most of the threat, end of story. If humanity had salvaged a bunch of alien tech after barely surviving an alien invasion and their first priority of what to do with it isn't a planetary defense grid they deserve to be killed off.

Yay and **** at the same time. While Independence Day was probably the greatest film ever made and another movie with Will Smith would be welcome, I do not want 2 and 3 to ruin the original. You see, I have a movie "pyramid"

................................independence day..............................

...........Spiderman 1...........................Spiderman 2........

..The Star Wars dual trilogy insert here to fill space..

Note the intentional omission of Spiderman 3. It does not exist. Okay!? Please inform me of how you would keep the pyramid normal with 3 at the top.

But I am still excited none the less.

but Independence day was a crap movie

It would be cool to see Marines take on those aliens face to face, after we got to see them in air battles.
One would wonder how well we would have picked ourselves up again after 15 years after an attack of that scale(Day After Tomorrow and Deep Impact I doubt would have nowhere near the scale of those casualty figures of ID4). This has potential for some real storytelling.
Know who I would get a kick out of seeing return? Adam Baldwin.

a new ID4 movie? Aw hell nah!

Actually I quited loved Independence Day though the post Area 51 parts were incredibly slow

Tiamat666:

Geamo:
Independence Day was brilliant.

Independence Day sucks a monkeys ass in space.

The story: bland "aliens invade earth" setup
The mood: Americans are the greatest. Save the planet, again
The content: arcade F-16s fighting alien spacecraft. Winning, of course
Ridiculous plot point 1: air force pilot learns to fly alien spacecraft in 10 seconds
Ridiculous plot point 2: ex pilot flies up alien motherships ass, mothership explodes
Ridiculous plot point 3: humans fly hijacked alien fighter right into alien home base. Super advanced aliens clueless
Inexcusably, outrageously ridiculous plot point 4: humans upload a computer virus onto alien home base. Humans win.

I don't think you have to have a masters in computer science to realize how incredibly stupid that last one is. Uploading a computer virus onto completely unknown alien technology and displaying a laughing skull on their monitors is just completely off the charts on my intergalactic stupidity meter. Roland Emmerich: FAIL

And I'm sure 2 and 3 will suck just as much, if not more. I'll pass, thanks.

Roland Emmerich made a few good movies. Joey and Stargate are awesome. Unfortunately after Stargate everything he produced has been a 100% special-effects orgy with 0% brain.

No, it doesn't make sense. But it's still one of the best popcorn flicks of all time.

Awesome I mean i love Independence Day but I just can't imagine a sequel to it

John Funk:

Tiamat666:

Geamo:
Independence Day was brilliant.

Independence Day sucks a monkeys ass in space.

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No, it doesn't make sense. But it's still one of the best popcorn flicks of all time.

Skimming through this thread and reading the comments it seems like most people agree with you.

I think one of the saddest things of our times is the low standards people place on their entertainment. Make things go boom and put in a few snappy, cool comments or patriotism, and the masses will flock to your product.

Don't get me wrong. I can enjoy a good action flick. Predator is awesome, some Rambo movies are awesome and I like "300". But these movies all have something special complementing the action. In Predator you have interesting characters and a coherent and believable storyline involving an alien headhunter. In 300 you have the unique visual style, creative design and historical background. In Independence Day you just have special effects and cheesy patriotism, while the plot consists of insultingly stupid events. That's not good enough for me.

Besides a lot of the movie not making sense, I loved that movie. I have no idea how they would be able to make a sequel unless it's a totally different movie, in which case, just make it its own movie.

BlindMessiah94:
Why does he keep calling it ID4?
*SNIP*

If you look at the cover box it has ID4 behind Independence Day.

Khell_Sennet:
I can think of many ways they could make this a success, and just as many ways they could fuck the whole thing up. I'll therefore reserve any judgment until I've at least seen a trailer and have some base understanding of what they're selling us in the way of story and cast.

Agree 100%, potentially it could be a great movie, and it could be just as big of a disaster.

It could be epic.

Sadly, it probably won't be.

The first was never meant to have a sequel. Forcing sequels on stand-alone epics rarely works out.
1. Retconns abound
2. They inevitably get compared to the original, and fall short no matter what.
3. Story-wise, whatever was absolutely awesome at the end of the first one becomes moot. i.e. if Bill Pullman's speech was just before they destroy the current big bad, the sequels will have a bigger bad, and that 1. makes Bill's speech kind-of premature in hindsight, and 2. no lead-in will live up to it even though it is about a bigger threat and we will be disillusioned like "so you say now, until the next big bad comes along".

I'm holding out hope in spite of cynicism anyway.

We will fight them with the power of Apple!

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Maybe in the 2nd one, we'll hack the mothership with an iPhone and in the 3rd with an iPad.

Also,
http://www.cracked.com/article_15229_5-things-hollywood-thinks-computers-can-do_p5.html
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-movies-we-hope-any-potential-alien-invaders-have-seen

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