Suicides Spur Nintendo, Sony, and Others to Investigate Foxconn

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Suicides Spur Nintendo, Sony, and Others to Investigate Foxconn

Following a wake of suicides at one of its plants, Foxconn is now subject to a series of probes by various electronics manufacturers.

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It seems that Foxconn Technology Group just isn't a good place to work, no matter what your position. After several recent suicides at one of the company's facilities, the Foxconn has found itself the subject of several investigative probes by some of its biggest clients.

On Friday, Nintendo, Sony, and Nokia announced -via separate statements- that they would all be investigating Foxconn due to the reports of high numbers of suicides in recent months. Currently, Foxconn is used by Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft to assemble their various consoles; other major electronics manufacturers like Dell, Nokia, and Apple use the company for other devices. Apple, earlier last week, also announced an investigation of the company.

Critics have leveled accusations against Foxconn that include harsh working conditions, physical abuse of employees, and long hours with low pay as being some of the factors in the suicides.

According to the company's corporate parent, Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., Ltd., Foxconn has tried just about everything to reduce worker stress, including an "anger room" (where employees beat up dummies to release anger), counseling services, playing calming buddhist music at the assembly lines, and even requiring workers to sign letters saying they won't kill themselves.

The Chinese government has even gotten involved, demanding that Foxconn fix the situation as soon as possible, going so far as to say improved labor unions would go a long way to make things better. One would think that not making workers into unpaid overtime on the assembly line, awarding promised raises, and not letting its security force beat up the workers might also be steps the company would want to consider.

Source: GamePolitics

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Isn't this the SAME company where the Iphone prototype got lost and the guy killed himself over it? Jesus, this company needs to be investigated.

EDIT: Read the wikipedia page, they tried to drag a reporter into the factory, when the police arrived, they told the reporter he could file a report, but they said that Foxconn has "Special Status Locally"

Over ten deaths in like 5 months, some of the accounts are ridiculous like "Drowned in the company building's pool, but was an able swimmer"

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON THERE?

Wow, thats pretty fucked up right there

danpascooch:
Isn't this the SAME company where the Iphone prototype got lost and the guy killed himself over it? Jesus, this company needs to be investigated.

why yes it is. and that is a list of large companys wanting investigations too.

like the idea of the anger room tho. could use one of them in my work.

They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

danpascooch:
Isn't this the SAME company where the Iphone prototype got lost and the guy killed himself over it? Jesus, this company needs to be investigated.

They've already been investigated. Repeatedly. By all of the companies. Multiple times by Apple.

They make some superficial changes, and everything continues on, business-as-usual, as the involved companies pat themselves on the back.

Until it happens again in a few years. Wash, rinse, repeat.

like that they make people promise not to kill themselves...its funny.

Jeez... yknow, sometimes i kinda take life in the states for granted, but now i feel better that im in a country where this isnt a major problem. somethings gotta be done about this.

Oh snap. Foxconn made my motherboard!
I kinda feel bad for having supported them.

vansau:

Critics have leveled accusations against Foxconn that include harsh working conditions, physical abuse of employees, and long hours with low pay as being some of the factors in the suicides.

Isn't that pretty much every Chinese manufacturing plant ever?

This is like the BP spill. No one really cares. They'll investigate, a couple of "managers" will be canned (which is to say, moved to a different subsidiary of the company), and things will continue on like nothing ever happened. You really think all these companies are going to do something that threatens their production costs? Judging by the fact they continue to use this company after previous instances of basically this exact thing happening, I think it's safe to say this will quietly be forgotten very soon.

I like that picture though. It's funny how for once the odd man out in the "look at our diversity" picture is a white dude.

Fucked up, man.

And what China mean by "fix", is cover up to look good for the investigators.

Well, they certainly got a bad history, all starting with the apple incident a year or so ago.

Suffice to say, if you think where you work is bad...then, look at this place...

I call your attention here.

Specifically, this comment;

moosesocks (264553) writes: on Friday May 21, @ 17:21 (#32299222):

Here's a source [cnn.com]. Foxconn has 486,000 employees according to fairly reliable sources.

According to this [wsj.com] 2007 WSJ article, they had over 450,000 factory workers, 270,000 of which were at a single 2x1mile site.

In other words, the suicide rates for Foxconn workers is slightly below average.

Interesting...

Hum... That sucks. Wtf is happening on their factories, I wonder.

Also, I feel complied to say I want an "Anger Room" too.

vansau:
...and even requiring workers to sign letters saying they won't kill themselves.

Wow, just wow. I doubt anyone has ever been weighing up suicide, when suddenly they remember they signed a letter at work saying they wouldn't, so you know, don't wanna get fired or anything.

Seriously, this is more bad news, I remember the prototype lost was connected to one of the sucides there.

Also, I feel guitly for owning an Iphone, it was made by someone who was pressured and abused to make it so.

Marik2:
They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

Yeah, then they can start a terrorist group and bomb all big gaming companies.

OT: This is quite serious. I hope they figure out what's wrong.

So by "investigate" all those companies mean is that they are going to send one or two guys to China, pump out some press releases saying how shocked/dismayed they are and how they want better work conditions and then continue using this company for their cheap labor until China eventually becomes too expensive and they move on to the next cheap labor country...right?

Patrick_and_the_ricks:
And what China mean by "fix", is cover up to look good for the investigators.

Pretty much this, there's no way they'll do anything to improve conditions over there.

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:
They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

Yeah, then they can start a terrorist group and bomb all big gaming companies.

OT: This is quite serious. I hope they figure out what's wrong.

I actually meant the part of Fight Club where they blew off steam by fighting each other. Cuz it really works...not that I would know.

vansau:
and even requiring workers to sign letters saying they won't kill themselves.

When your new employer asks you to sign a statement promising you won't commit suicide, red flags should instantly go up that maybe working there isn't the best idea. Seriously, how does that go exactly.

Employer: I'd like to welcome you to the company. new employee.
New guy: Thanks, I am glad to be here.
Employer: I just need you to read a couple of forms and sign on the dotted line.
New guy: Ok. Umm.... What is this about suicide?
Employer: Oh that is just a formality! We just want to make sure our employees don't go about offing themselves.
New guy: Is that such a big problem that you have people sign agreements before working here?
Employer: (Angrily) Are you going to ask questions all day? Just sign the damn paper maggot and get to work or so help me I'll ..(calms down).. I am sorry about that but it has been a long day so if you could just sign the papers.
New guy: I am not so sure I want to work here... (Employer grabs his neck and pulls a huge knife from his desk.)
Employer: (Calm yet serious manner) Sign the goddamn paper or else I will cut your head off and hang it above my toilet, you fucking piece of shit.
New guy: Oh God! Please just let me go! I won't tell anybody about anything!
Employer: You disappoint me, new guy. I am afraid I will have to terminate your employment here. (Slices his neck from ear to ear and presses button on the intercom) Send in the cleaners and send in the next employee afterwards. (Looks at knife) God, I love this job!

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:
They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

Yeah, then they can start a terrorist group and bomb all big gaming companies.

OT: This is quite serious. I hope they figure out what's wrong.

I actually meant the part of Fight Club where they blew off steam by fighting each other. Cuz it really works...not that I would know.

Yeah, and I followed it up. I was just heckling with the fact that the movie made something as simple as two guys beating the crap out of each other, to a terrorist bombing.

Blimey:

vansau:

Critics have leveled accusations against Foxconn that include harsh working conditions, physical abuse of employees, and long hours with low pay as being some of the factors in the suicides.

Isn't that pretty much every Chinese manufacturing plant ever?

Aye got that right.

The majority of things we buy to make our lives comfortable is off the back of some poor bastard being paid a pittance in a forigen country.

The companies are only investigating this because its become a recognised news story. You cannot honestly believe that the biggest companies in electronics all use a place with workers snuffin themselves willy nilly and know NOTHING about it.

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:
They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

Yeah, then they can start a terrorist group and bomb all big gaming companies.

OT: This is quite serious. I hope they figure out what's wrong.

I actually meant the part of Fight Club where they blew off steam by fighting each other. Cuz it really works...not that I would know.

Yeah, and I followed it up. I was just heckling with the fact that the movie made something as simple as two guys beating the crap out of each other, to a terrorist bombing.

Ah yes, well the smallest of events can become something bigger than expected.

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:
They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

Yeah, then they can start a terrorist group and bomb all big gaming companies.

OT: This is quite serious. I hope they figure out what's wrong.

I actually meant the part of Fight Club where they blew off steam by fighting each other. Cuz it really works...not that I would know.

Yeah, and I followed it up. I was just heckling with the fact that the movie made something as simple as two guys beating the crap out of each other, to a terrorist bombing.

Ah yes, well the smallest of events can become something bigger than expected.

Indeed it can, even if the proportions can be extremely silly.

The only way you fix it is to rally the employees to beat the snot out of the management. In their situation though I wouldn't do it without the Chinese Governments permission though. They shoot people who get out of line without permission...

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:
They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

Yeah, then they can start a terrorist group and bomb all big gaming companies.

OT: This is quite serious. I hope they figure out what's wrong.

I actually meant the part of Fight Club where they blew off steam by fighting each other. Cuz it really works...not that I would know.

Yeah, and I followed it up. I was just heckling with the fact that the movie made something as simple as two guys beating the crap out of each other, to a terrorist bombing.

Ah yes, well the smallest of events can become something bigger than expected.

Indeed it can, even if the proportions can be extremely silly.

You'd be surprised, a lot of major events can just start from a simple conversation. Even if its not to be expected. So nothing is silly IMO.

Man all those suicides....Do you think there accepting applications I really need a job.

But really sounds like bad news. I woonder what is indeed going on.

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:
They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

Yeah, then they can start a terrorist group and bomb all big gaming companies.

OT: This is quite serious. I hope they figure out what's wrong.

I actually meant the part of Fight Club where they blew off steam by fighting each other. Cuz it really works...not that I would know.

Yeah, and I followed it up. I was just heckling with the fact that the movie made something as simple as two guys beating the crap out of each other, to a terrorist bombing.

Ah yes, well the smallest of events can become something bigger than expected.

Indeed it can, even if the proportions can be extremely silly.

You'd be surprised, a lot of major events can just start from a simple conversation. Even if its not to be expected. So nothing is silly IMO.

And thus, the effect of the butterfly.

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:

Arkhangelsk:

Marik2:
They just need a Fight Club. Joking aside the company really needs to clean itself up.

Yeah, then they can start a terrorist group and bomb all big gaming companies.

OT: This is quite serious. I hope they figure out what's wrong.

I actually meant the part of Fight Club where they blew off steam by fighting each other. Cuz it really works...not that I would know.

Yeah, and I followed it up. I was just heckling with the fact that the movie made something as simple as two guys beating the crap out of each other, to a terrorist bombing.

Ah yes, well the smallest of events can become something bigger than expected.

Indeed it can, even if the proportions can be extremely silly.

You'd be surprised, a lot of major events can just start from a simple conversation. Even if its not to be expected. So nothing is silly IMO.

And thus, the effect of the butterfly.

Ah yeah...
For instance one time I took the wrong train and the following events happened:
I was in Downtown
Then I was in a girls house
Then I was in a hotel room with people I never met.
Then there was some cops...
And I ended up back home safe and sound.

It all started by taking the wrong bus...

Terrible, but I'm glad that Escapist is posting this as it is more worth bringing to our attention than greenpeace complaining about Nintendo for not telling them what chemicals they use.

Holy shit...I kind of feel guilty for buying so many of their products.

vansau:
According to the company's corporate parent, Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., Ltd., Foxconn has tried just about everything to reduce worker stress, including an "anger room" (where employees beat up dummies to release anger), counseling services, playing calming buddhist music at the assembly lines, and even requiring workers to sign letters saying they won't kill themselves.

Government Agent A: If you work for these guys you must not kill yourself!
Worker: (standing on office roof) Nooooo!
Government Agent A: (to superior) He said no, what do we do?
Government Agent B: Well, I guess he means no. Can't argue with that.

(cue agents walking away whistling a happy tune while worker tops himself)

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Yeah, but seriously, this is out of hand. The company needs to be investigated properly, and if they can't deal with the problem then they should be shut down. It's as simple as that.

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