Fan Renders Ico & Shadow of the Colossus In HD

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cabalistics:
I does look pretty nice but it being sharper maybe takes away some of the vaguely dreamlike feeling of both games

I agree. The sketchy graphics is what made the games feel so other-worldly.

If Sony does hire a studio to remaster them, they'd better have someone of the Team Ico staff close by to give cliff notes on retaining the visual style.

I said it before and I'll say it again: Resolution DOES matter!

hcig:
lol, all they did was get rid of the blurry filter used to cover up the horrid graphics

... what?!?!?

The blur isn't caused by ANY filter, it is caused by the game itself being rendered in a low resolution. I don't know where you heard about any "blurry filter" I have a sneaking suspicion you completely made that up.

Casual Shinji:

cabalistics:
I does look pretty nice but it being sharper maybe takes away some of the vaguely dreamlike feeling of both games

I agree. The sketchy graphics is what made the games feel so other-worldly.

If Sony does hire a studio to remaster them, they'd better have someone of the Team Ico staff close by to give cliff notes on retaining the visual style.

But another thing the emulator (or possible HD re-release) would solve is the atrocious framerate in both games.

Now even if you are of the opinion that high fidelity graphics don't matter and gameplay is paramount, well a low framerate UTTERLY CRIPPLES gameplay, as even though 15-20 frames/sec may give the illusion of motion it is incredibly laggy, stiff and unresponsive, you basically have to plan each action a second in advance. Even simple platforming becomes a chore.

Playing games at 60fps vs sub-30 fps is like the difference between driving an F1 Racer and driving a bulldozer.

The title is misleading, I thought we were gonna see how ICO/SotC would look on a next-gen console like the 360 or PS3 or something.

:(

But damn, for such an old game, it still looks sort of good.

I... I almost wish The Last Guardian wasn't being made. I'm going to end up breaking down and buying a PS3 for that game alone. I don't want to. It's a huge expense I can't really afford right now for. All for a single game, but I'll probably do it anyway.

Now at least I'll have more than one game to play on the system when it happens though, so yay?

u bet this is a pre-order item for me when its announced!

refuses to believe it will just stay a rumor! la la la la

Treblaine:
But another thing the emulator (or possible HD re-release) would solve is the atrocious framerate in both games.

Now even if you are of the opinion that high fidelity graphics don't matter and gameplay is paramount, well a low framerate UTTERLY CRIPPLES gameplay, as even though 15-20 frames/sec may give the illusion of motion it is incredibly laggy, stiff and unresponsive, you basically have to plan each action a second in advance. Even simple platforming becomes a chore.

Playing games at 60fps vs sub-30 fps is like the difference between driving an F1 Racer and driving a bulldozer.

I've never had that much of a problem with the frame rate of atleast SoTC. I can remeber that with Ico the frame rate could be a bit choppy, but with SoTC they must've programed something to smoothen it out, so that eventhough the frame rate was still low, it was easy on the eyes.

But after having played SoTC on my PS3 with progressive scan, there's no way I'm ever playing it on the PS2 again...unless my 60gig breaks down. *prays to God* It looks 5 times crisper and the frame rate got a little boost aswell. I just wouldn't want the visual style to suffer if they are remasterd them. Point in case; MGS Twin Snakes.

God. Damn. God. Freakin'. Damn.

So, the wife is thinking she may want to get a PS3, and then if Ico and SotC HD do see the light of day and look something like that, well, yeah.

I think I may have to schedule another 10 hours of work a day in...

Image looked really nice. I'd rebuy both games. Because I love them both. :3

I still need to buy the OSTs in fact.

Anyways, for those umm...gamers that haven't played ICO OR SotC? Whatever is priding you from picking up a PS2 and buying one of the two is seriously hurting your gaming experience. Enough so where I'd say you're wasting some very valuable memories. In every form of media, there are things that you just shouldn't be proud of. It's like coming to a bunch of artists and telling them you've NEVER seen ANY images of the Mona Lisa. On purpose! Even though it's highly valued in that society. It's facepalm worthy. Both Team ICO games are like this. It's been years now, stop playing the games you'll forget about anyways for a few seconds and play the games people are STILL talking about!

Meanwhile, I better hop to the whole Neon Genesis anime, because apparently I'm in the whole "facepalm worthy" part of the Anime-universe for not seeing it yet.

Has anyone played these on a PS3. The launch PS3's up-scaled and smoothed the graphics on old PS2 games.

Patrick_and_the_ricks:
(Yes this is real and coming out)

Right after Duke Nukem Forever

Oh aye, DO WANT.
So many memories of Shadow... I have shadow of the colossus right now and I was going to play it again until I heard it might come out of Ps3. I'm holding out for it now, and I'd really love to see what Ico was all about, I missed out on that one...

If they did remake them it would be awesome for all the PS3 owners, but as an xbox owner i'd STILL be missing out on a game i've wanted to play for years.

vf501:
I call bullshit on Digital Foundry making ICO and SotC running in HD, they did squat except load up PCSX2 and the game DVD. The team over at PCSX2.net is responsible for the PC emulation that does the upped resolution videos and images you see there. Even FFX, Metal Gear Solid2/3, and Kingdom Hearts look much better in Higher resolutions.

Read both the Eurogamer articles John linked, all DF did was use PCSX2.

A good 3.0Ghz Dual or Quad Core + a 9800GT/ATI 4770 or better and you can run PCSX2 at full speeds.

Exactly the PCx2 team did all the work, DF is just stealing the praise.
I should try some other ps2 games i got on the pc, to bad you can't port ps2 savegames from memorycard to pc without new hardware^^

Casual Shinji:

Treblaine:
But another thing the emulator (or possible HD re-release) would solve is the atrocious framerate in both games.

Now even if you are of the opinion that high fidelity graphics don't matter and gameplay is paramount, well a low framerate UTTERLY CRIPPLES gameplay, as even though 15-20 frames/sec may give the illusion of motion it is incredibly laggy, stiff and unresponsive, you basically have to plan each action a second in advance. Even simple platforming becomes a chore.

Playing games at 60fps vs sub-30 fps is like the difference between driving an F1 Racer and driving a bulldozer.

I've never had that much of a problem with the frame rate of atleast SoTC. I can remeber that with Ico the frame rate could be a bit choppy, but with SoTC they must've programed something to smoothen it out, so that eventhough the frame rate was still low, it was easy on the eyes.

But after having played SoTC on my PS3 with progressive scan, there's no way I'm ever playing it on the PS2 again...unless my 60gig breaks down. *prays to God* It looks 5 times crisper and the frame rate got a little boost aswell. I just wouldn't want the visual style to suffer if they are remasterd them. Point in case; MGS Twin Snakes.

Trust me... 60fps is something so many console gamers are denied but when you experience it You will know the difference. Before i got into PC gaming I have to admit I had no idea what I was missing out on.

For example I played Quake 2 on my laptop recently, there was a bug causing it to slow down to 15-30 FPS. The game was just frustrating to play, overall a negative experience. Then I realised what I was doing wrong and set it to 60fps... WOW. It was like a completely different game, so smooth and responsive.

Also MGS: Twin Snakes was a completely different type of remake. It was literally made again, re-made. Start from scratch.

In fact, I wish the OP and DF would STOP talking about a "HD Remakes" as that is NOT what is being proposes, simply a HD RE-RELEASE. I think a more appropriate term is "HD Remastered Release" as people are familiar with that term from DVD releases, they know that it (should) be all the same with no changes to what actually happens is there... it's just a lot clearer.

GiantRedButton:

vf501:
I call bullshit on Digital Foundry making ICO and SotC running in HD, they did squat except load up PCSX2 and the game DVD. The team over at PCSX2.net is responsible for the PC emulation that does the upped resolution videos and images you see there. Even FFX, Metal Gear Solid2/3, and Kingdom Hearts look much better in Higher resolutions.

Read both the Eurogamer articles John linked, all DF did was use PCSX2.

A good 3.0Ghz Dual or Quad Core + a 9800GT/ATI 4770 or better and you can run PCSX2 at full speeds.

Exactly the PCx2 team did all the work, DF is just stealing the praise.
I should try some other ps2 games i got on the pc, to bad you can't port ps2 savegames from memorycard to pc without new hardware^^

err, I'm pretty sure the article EXPLICITLY mentioned they were using their own emulation software, they said SEVERAL TIMES how they were hanging off developments made by PSx2

Treblaine:

GiantRedButton:

vf501:
I call bullshit on Digital Foundry making ICO and SotC running in HD, they did squat except load up PCSX2 and the game DVD. The team over at PCSX2.net is responsible for the PC emulation that does the upped resolution videos and images you see there. Even FFX, Metal Gear Solid2/3, and Kingdom Hearts look much better in Higher resolutions.

Read both the Eurogamer articles John linked, all DF did was use PCSX2.

A good 3.0Ghz Dual or Quad Core + a 9800GT/ATI 4770 or better and you can run PCSX2 at full speeds.

Exactly the PCx2 team did all the work, DF is just stealing the praise.
I should try some other ps2 games i got on the pc, to bad you can't port ps2 savegames from memorycard to pc without new hardware^^

err, I'm pretty sure the article EXPLICITLY mentioned they were using their own emulation software, they said SEVERAL TIMES how they were hanging off developments made by PSx2

Err. No. Read the ICO article, they never mention any changes they made at all. The changes they talk about are what the Dev Team behind ICO did between ICO and SotC. And even if they did tweak a few DX9/10 code strings in the PCSX gfx plugin or made adjustments to the PCSX2 core code, the main work was still done by the PCSX2 team who should be mentioned in John's article. At least the DF article mentions the creators and how close they are to perfect PS2 emultation.

Yes - make it happen.

vf501:

Treblaine:

GiantRedButton:

Exactly the PCx2 team did all the work, DF is just stealing the praise.
I should try some other ps2 games i got on the pc, to bad you can't port ps2 savegames from memorycard to pc without new hardware^^

err, I'm pretty sure the article EXPLICITLY mentioned they were using their own emulation software, they said SEVERAL TIMES how they were hanging off developments made by PSx2

Err. No. Read the ICO article, they never mention any changes they made at all. The changes they talk about are what the Dev Team behind ICO did between ICO and SotC. And even if they did tweak a few DX9/10 code strings in the PCSX gfx plugin or made adjustments to the PCSX2 core code, the main work was still done by the PCSX2 team who should be mentioned in John's article. At least the DF article mentions the creators and how close they are to perfect PS2 emultation.

Oh you're talking about John funks article? Oh, well that's completely different, we all know Our John. He's always played fast and loose with the facts of the matter as all journalists do to make a snappy story. To be honest I've thought him a bit funny since he defended Activation's exclusion of Dedicated Servers in Modern Warfare 2.

I've never approved of this like selective fact inclusion in journalism but I see it so often I ignore it and skip straight to the source, in this case DF's article which did an in depth analysis of the emulators' progress and gave their expert opinion on the PLAUSIBILITY of an official HD Re-release. It wasn't really an ode to their work, per se.

taking another look, there are a bit too many degrees of separation here; from the original Sony developers, to the emulator team plugins (and all the various contributors), to Digital Foundry, to Escapist magazine's coverage.

thenumberthirteen:
Has anyone played these on a PS3. The launch PS3's up-scaled and smoothed the graphics on old PS2 games.

Patrick_and_the_ricks:
(Yes this is real and coming out)

Right after Duke Nukem Forever

Its a fan made mod and should be out in several months. Look on the site its real.

Patrick_and_the_ricks:

thenumberthirteen:
Has anyone played these on a PS3. The launch PS3's up-scaled and smoothed the graphics on old PS2 games.

Patrick_and_the_ricks:
(Yes this is real and coming out)

Right after Duke Nukem Forever

Its a fan made mod and should be out in several months. Look on the site its real.

I know, but they've been at it for ages, and they said it would be done last year.

thenumberthirteen:
I know, but they've been at it for ages, and they said it would be done last year.

I think they're having a munny problem.

Edit: (Thats a MGS collab refference for those who have seen it)

Man I hated Ico. I couldn't stand that idiot girl, just made it frustrating. I don't care if it is "art", that shouldn't make it an arse to play

This just made buying my Ps3 worth it. SotC is still on my top games list after all this time. <3 Please please please make this happen, someone...

Hubilub:
Oh god I want Shadow of the Colossus for the PS3.

Although I'd probably just spend the time running around on the platform for the third colossus admiring the view.

Man I love that fight.

By far my favorite colossus fight!

If this does happen, God has been listening to my prayers.

Release it at a 40 dollar price tag with a Last Guardian demo and I am sold.

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