Former Aussie Premier Calls for R18+ Game Rating

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Former Aussie Premier Calls for R18+ Game Rating

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Peter Beattie, the former Premier of Queensland who called for a ban on Fable and Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure in 2005, now says it's time for Australia to "grow up" and introduce at R18+ rating for videogames.

My, how times change. In 2005, Peter Beattie, then the Premier of the Australian state of Queensland, called for a ban on Fable and Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure, the former because it encouraged violence against women and the latter because "it glorifies high-risk, law-breaking, violent and even deadly behavior."

"[Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure] has worrying potential to steer impressionable young people into activities that will endanger life and limb and earn them criminal records," he said. "Anything less than a national ban would not prevent young people from accessing the game."

But just listen to him now. Reflecting on his experience at the 2010 edition of E3 in an op-ed for The Australian, Beattie wrote, "I talked to industry representatives from across the world and, frankly, I was mildly embarrassed for Australia."

He laid out a comprehensive argument in support of an R18+ rating for Australia, most of which we're already familiar with: 98 percent of those who responded to the government's request for submissions on the matter were in favor of an R18+ rating, the average gamer is 34 years old with a university degree and the inherent "naivete" of the belief that the lack of an adult rating will keep adult games out of the country.

"We've done it with movies for years. In a way, we do it with the labeling of food ingredients. More information helps consumers avoid the things they want to avoid," he continued. "There's no difference here. Introducing an R18+ classification for video games in Australia is a no-brainer."

Beattie also acknowledged that the creation of a new rating for videogames would require unanimous consent from state-level attorneys-general, but said that with a certain someone out of the picture, there's now a real opportunity to make it happen.

"With Michael Atkinson having retired from that post at the recent state election, South Australian Premier Mike Rann and his new Attorney-General, John Rau (and the bureaucrats who advise him), have a real opportunity to support a sensible change that will be good for parents, good for kids, and good for a booming new industry employing lots of Australians," he wrote. "It's time to make an R18+ classification for video games a reality."

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What game is he (or a family member) looking to play that wont make it past the ratings board...?

obisean:
What game is he (or a family member) looking to play that wont make it past the ratings board...?

Every game ever, apparentley.

Andy Chalk:
Snip

A politican that admits he was wrong without some kind of huge scandel but after talking with experts and thinking it over?

O_O

IT IS THE END! WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!

That ski condo in Hell is starting to look promising with this turn of events.

It seems not-being-a-politician-anymore makes you more reasonable.

Who would've thought it?

wow. this was unexpected.

Dangit Australia! You cancelled the weekly Atkinson sketch show and now this!! looks like im going to have to get my laughs/terror from Kotick from now on...

See, there is a little hope in humanity left...

Well, this is good. Nice to see a politician admit that they were wrong for once. Although from the way the article talks about it, I'm not sure if he's actively admitting that he was wrong, or just acting like he was never against it in the first place. Still, hopefully Australia's government will grow up and implement an adult rating soon.

I still don't see how Fable encouraged violence against women though, or could even have been seen to do so. Anyone else have any idea what he was going on about there?

Not G. Ivingname:

Andy Chalk:
Snip

A politican that admits he was wrong without some kind of huge scandel but after talking with experts and thinking it over?

O_O

IT IS THE END! WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!

My exact thoughts. O_O

In all seriousness we need more politicians like this guy. A person willing to admit to making a mistake without a scandal is a real honest person or more honest than other politicians.

Booze Zombie:
It seems not-being-a-politician-anymore makes you more reasonable.

Who would've thought it?

anyone in britan whos witnessed Gordon Brown drop off the radar like a small goat from a mountain [/tedious analogy]

crimsonshrouds:

Not G. Ivingname:

Andy Chalk:
Snip

A politican that admits he was wrong without some kind of huge scandel but after talking with experts and thinking it over?

O_O

IT IS THE END! WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!

My exact thoughts. O_O

In all seriousness we need more politicians like this guy. A person willing to admit to making a mistake without a scandal is a real honest person or more honest than other politicians.

enter... Boris Johnson...

It's always nice to know that no matter how much people can seem set in their ways, they are still capable of learning.

Getting up? That street tagging game? That should not be banned.

Anyway, I tried to concentrate on the article, but like Vegeta heard when Dodoria was talking about the Earthlings he was following, that picture just says "Hit me! Right in the face, Do it!"

Anyways, it looks like australia can finally take off it's rose tinted glasses and see the world how it is in the virtual realm soon. Of course, Australia doesn't regulate Xbox Live which about 5 minutes of that would earn the age rating of R18+ for "Encouraging Children to talk foul offences about others, other people's family relations, and display hostile actions of such gruesome detail by depicting children, who are reminded to do their chores during all this behaivour, committing such acts."

Calumon: I got nothing to say, so here's the argument which Jack had with someone on the PSN.

The problem, as proved in the rest of the world, is not the rating system itself but its enforcement.
You cannot and will not stop kids getting their parents to buy 18s.
And when that happens, we end up with the latest "video game controversy".

Jack and Calumon:
Getting up? That street tagging game? That should not be banned.

Anyway, I tried to concentrate on the article, but like Vegeta heard when Dodoria was talking about the Earthlings he was following, that picture just says "Hit me! Right in the face, Do it!"

Anyways, it looks like australia can finally take off it's rose tinted glasses and see the world how it is in the virtual realm soon. Of course, Australia doesn't regulate Xbox Live which about 5 minutes of that would earn the age rating of R18+ for "Encouraging Children to talk foul offences about others, other people's family relations, and display hostile actions of such gruesome detail by depicting children, who are reminded to do their chores during all this behaivour, committing such acts."

Calumon: I got nothing to say, so here's the argument which Jack had with someone on the PSN.

...That was awesome...and sad at the same time.

I do understand were he's coming from with getting up but fable?
No sense.

its about time australia!

vallorn:

crimsonshrouds:

Not G. Ivingname:

Andy Chalk:
Snip

A politican that admits he was wrong without some kind of huge scandel but after talking with experts and thinking it over?

O_O

IT IS THE END! WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!

My exact thoughts. O_O

In all seriousness we need more politicians like this guy. A person willing to admit to making a mistake without a scandal is a real honest person or more honest than other politicians.

enter... Boris Johnson...

Awwwwwwwww you got to love old Boris,if he dosen't become prime minister in a couple of years the will be blood.

/salute Australia.

Jack and Calumon:
Getting up? That street tagging game? That should not be banned.

Anyway, I tried to concentrate on the article, but like Vegeta heard when Dodoria was talking about the Earthlings he was following, that picture just says "Hit me! Right in the face, Do it!"

Anyways, it looks like australia can finally take off it's rose tinted glasses and see the world how it is in the virtual realm soon. Of course, Australia doesn't regulate Xbox Live which about 5 minutes of that would earn the age rating of R18+ for "Encouraging Children to talk foul offences about others, other people's family relations, and display hostile actions of such gruesome detail by depicting children, who are reminded to do their chores during all this behaivour, committing such acts."

Calumon: I got nothing to say, so here's the argument which Jack had with someone on the PSN.

wow...just...wow. 12 year olds on the PSN usualy dont have headsets so ive never had an experience like that. also its your fault for not playing BFBC2 ;)

WOO HOO POST 300 SPARTANA!

obisean:
What game is he (or a family member) looking to play that wont make it past the ratings board...?

Who cares as long as we finally get the rating?

coughingfit:

obisean:
What game is he (or a family member) looking to play that wont make it past the ratings board...?

Who cares as long as we finally get the rating?

#

were just curious dude.

also WELCOME TO THE WOOORRRLD OF TOOMOROW! affectionately called the escapist. (cookie for the reference)

"Peter Beattie called for a ban on Fable because it encouraged violence against women"

He is oddly knowledgable about this. There's no way he could know that without playing through the annoyance of having a wife in the game.

Though, the game encourages violence against men, and tempts violence against children, so I don't see how this is a particular issue.

This is when the government really needs to listen, if there own politicians, who were once against it! Now want it!

vallorn:

also WELCOME TO THE WOOORRRLD OF TOOMOROW! affectionately called the escapist. (cookie for the reference)

Thats an easy one, Futurama (the defrosting guy for the cryogenics lab).

OT : Hooray, there is hope yet!

Question, is he up for reelection any time soon?

Like most politicians, he will look for anything to base his campaign off of to get into office. Then he will do nothing at all...

Dead Rising 2 just got given a 15 certificate un-cut; that's the sheer irony of their rating system.

obisean:
What game is he (or a family member) looking to play that wont make it past the ratings board...?

Perhaps L4D2? After all, it is calming.

Seems sense is creeping back, slowly but surely, towards the Australia government.

Neat...

That is almost like a politician is saying that they should grow up and accept games as something more adult. I think I'm going to cry out of happiness... Nah not really. gamers are emotion less monsters so we don't cry.
Also good for Australia!

Wait, a politician went and got him a global perspective on something?

Either this is a great day for gamers in Australia or...

i guess some politicians decided it was time to stop getting Down Under us gamers' skins!

Not G. Ivingname:

Andy Chalk:
Snip

A politican that admits he was wrong without some kind of huge scandel but after talking with experts and thinking it over?

O_O

IT IS THE END! WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!

It happen often here in Québec... The problem is they don't so when they are in power but after having take theyr retirement from the political scene...
It's kind of sad in fact, all our big shot get more interesting when they leave

Most people are predicting that we won't get our R rating for another few years at least. Everybody who's in power with the exception of the ACT Attorney-General, and perhaps the Victorian AG are too conservative to give it to us despite the overwhealming support.

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