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Blizzard Forums Make Real Names Mandatory

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Blizzard hopes its "Real ID" system will create a more positive forum environment and curtail flaming and trolling.

Screen names will soon be a thing of the past on the Battle.net forums, and any post you make will be under your real name. Starting at the end of the month, use of Blizzard's Real ID will be a requirement in order to post on the Starcraft 2 forums, with the World of Warcraft forums following suit around the launch of the Cataclysm expansion. The forums for older Blizzard games like Warcraft III and Diablo II will be put together in a "legacy forum" section in which Real ID will be implemented.

Blizzard hopes that having some degree of accountability will help make its forums a more pleasant place for people to post, and says that this will apply to staff members as well: "The official forums have always been a great place to discuss the latest info on our games, offer ideas and suggestions, and share experiences with other players - however, the forums have also earned a reputation as a place where flame wars, trolling, and other unpleasantness run wild," said a Blizzard spokesperson in a statement on their forums.

"Removing the veil of anonymity typical to online dialogue will contribute to a more positive forum environment, promote constructive conversations, and connect the Blizzard community in ways they haven't been connected before. With this change, you'll see blue posters (i.e. Blizzard employees) posting by their real first and last names on our forums as well."

It's going to be interesting to see what effect this has on the Battle.net forums. Anonymity is often cited as a factor in antisocial online behavior, and perhaps removing it will genuinely improve the internet. On the other hand, this may make some people who have always behaved appropriately in the past less willing to post, and some people are going to be jerks whether you know their real names or not.

Source: 1up

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I think that Ctrl Alt Deletes comic pretty much sums it up perfectly.

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I was discussing this with some friends earlier today. It seems like an aggressively unnecessary new policy, and a really bad PR move.

That said, I don't understand why people are so upset about their real names being used. It just seems really weird to me that anonymity is that highly valued.

I do think this might work, not completely by any means, but it should scare of a couple of them.

This is a stupid idea. A very stupid idea. It won't stop the vast majority of trolls from trolling, and it'll just drive away the people that aren't comfortable with their real identities being cast out onto the internet.

Here's what I wonder about this policy. How do they ensure that you use your real name, and not a made up one? I don't think they can.

The second someone get cyber bullied becuase of this. Blizzard going to have to pay through the nose on law-suits. Someone save this post it's coming and it's going to be costly.

There is a rule in the blizzard forum that, if anyone reveals anyone else real life information or that of a Blizzard Employee you are subject to an immediate ban from the forums. Love how that doesn't apply to them eh?

stupid idea. pointless. whatever i don't use the official forums for anything other than update info and help faq none of which requires you to post.

So what about people with common names? The idea of having a screen name isn't entirely to do with anonymity but is a way of being recognised as an individual due to having a name that nobody else can use.

As soon as all the John Smith's are recognised as such it shall become extremely confusing to know who is talking. Especially if you knew them prior their name being forced.

Unless the idea is that the user name and the real name is shown?

IceStar100:
The second someone get cyber bullied becuase of this. Blizzard going to have to pay through the nose on law-suits. Someone save this post it's coming and it's going to be costly.

Well no, because being on the forums is not compulsory. They aren't going to change everyones user name to their real one without asking, you will have to sign up for this 'Real ID' thing in order to post.

Having your real name there doesn't really make you less anonymous - it's highly unlikely that anyone's going to know who you are still.

Considering it's easy enough to use fake names on the forums anyway I doubt any actual trolls will care. All this is going to do is bother regular, honest players.

I heard something about this RealID thing that you have to connect it with your Facebook account?

Omikron009:
Here's what I wonder about this policy. How do they ensure that you use your real name, and not a made up one? I don't think they can.

I was thinking that too, but I get the idea behind it and I guess that it's nice that they are trying to get rid of trolls instead of letting them fester.

Still, I don't see many people stopping the trolling with this new system, just a large amount of people suddenly called tits mcgee.

You only have to look at facebook to see this won't have much impact

I can see this blowing up in their face and be completely non-effective against most trolls.

Kiefer13:
This is a stupid idea. A very stupid idea. It won't stop the vast majority of trolls from trolling, and it'll just drive away the people that aren't comfortable with their real identities being cast out onto the internet.

Yeah, I don't think this will work either. I think most people will just evade to unofficial forums. I for one wouldn't want my employer to be able to research my gaming habits by googling my name. There is no way I will sign up to any casual or entertainment forum with my real name.

I'm still one of those that isn't comfortable with my real name being able to be seen by other people online. It's not a terribly uncommon name, but it's uncommon enough that you could probably track me down if you could find out approximately where I lived, what my age was and had some general idea as to my physical appearance.

For these reasons I ESPECIALLY don't like Facebook. Look, even if people aren't planning to stalk you, somebody who knows your real name and personal information can sell this stuff to advertisers. I currently get about 2-3 junk mails a day. I know some people who get hundreds. So I'm just saying, my reticence about revealing any personal information has served me well.

I'm not too sure what to say about this, when I first heard about it I actually thought that it was a good idea. But as the comic above illustrated I doubt that the "trolls" will stop posting their messages because of the fact that you can see their real names. So in some way it seems futile, but I do also believe that some of the "lesser trolls" or people who are thinking about writing something bad about another person... well, they might have second thoughts.

I'm afraid that we can't really decide if it's going to work or not before actually seeing the system up and running. So I guess we´ll just have to wait and see... oh yes, I also don't like the thought of having my real name visible to everyone online. Kinda makes me think how much of a persons personal information that will be revealed to others.

This won't work. It will do nothing to stop flaming and trolling, flamers are trolls are just like that. Furthermore, it will only make the other, normal, people uneasy, or unwilling to post with their real names. No, it's stupid.

This looks like an interesting experiment. I'm curious what kind of effect this loss of anonimity will have. Still, this system is probably easy to bypass with a fake name and there will be plenty of trolls not caring about this (until an employer googles their name).

Would someone please tell me the movie this really comes from.

John Smith: You're wrong
John Smith: Nuh-uh!
John Smith: Yes you are
John Smith: Well you're stupid!

The chances of two arguers sharing a name is unlikely, but my example remains plausible.

Omikron009:
Here's what I wonder about this policy. How do they ensure that you use your real name, and not a made up one? I don't think they can.

Yeah, this leaves me wondering, too.
I mean, if there is not way to ensure the validity of the names, Blizzard is giving trolls more opportunity to screw with regular users.
So, this doesn't sound too good.

This will most likely nail 25-man raids, if not all dedicated raids, since the official forums are a neccessary plattform for recruitement across realms. And alot, if not most people will not want to continue posting there.

Edit: I think its illegal to fake your name, since your account name is the name you are doing buisness with, with blizzard. It's the name that shows up an our bills and to wich charges will be held, if you don't pay up. Don't think it's legal to lie about that, you can't make up a name when you buy a car either.

Well that sucks. What if your real name is something aweful as so many parents are utterly retarded when it comes to naming their children, giving them pretty much baby names forgetting that they will grow up and have to live with that name for the rest of their lives.

Like my cousin... her name? Dotty.

No, that's not a shortened nick-name, that is the name on her Birth Certificate, on her passport and will be on her bank accounts, credit cards and driving licences.

Fuck sake, Auntie. Cute baby name but she won't be a baby forever. Way too many hippies have lead to an entire generation of crap names that we wish we could avoid.

More practically, what if they have a Muslim or Jewish or Sikh name and don't want to be discriminated against? What if their real name linked with their comments opens them up to exploitative data-mining that could crack their accounts (date of birth from birthday, favourite book, etc, etc)

Look I am all in favour of the MODERATORS knowing each user's real name (proven via credit card) but that is unnecessary for the ENTIRE INTERNET to know.

Playbahnosh:
This won't work. It will do nothing to stop flaming and trolling, flamers are trolls are just like that. Furthermore, it will only make the other, normal, people uneasy, or unwilling to post with their real names. No, it's stupid.

Agreed. And I smell the smelly smell of Kotick's or Activision Executive meddling.

It is certainly ham-fisted enough to be the work of Kotick.

Agayek:
I was discussing this with some friends earlier today. It seems like an aggressively unnecessary new policy, and a really bad PR move.

That said, I don't understand why people are so upset about their real names being used. It just seems really weird to me that anonymity is that highly valued.

Consider this:
-You apply for a job.
-The manager in charge of hiering googles your name.
-He finds lots of posts made by you on forums, all nicely time stamped and everything
-He dislikes that you play wow, and have a tendency to post during working hours.
-You do not get the job.

People usually want to keep their anonymity because its so easy for people to google you these days.
Usually its not what you say, but where you say it that makes people want to use a screen name. Although some people want so to avoid having to own up to what they said.

But if I choose not to add my main character to my name (apparently thats optional) well then it really shouldn't matter if I troll or not.

Now id the only way to read/find these post is by being a subscribing member to battle.net well then I don't have that gripe.

Aurgelmir:
[quote="Agayek" post="7.208948.7074104"]
-He dislikes that you play wow, and have a tendency to post during working hours.
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This argument is really flawed. Any company that cares about what their folks do during worktime can protocoll the sites they visit during worktime.

This technology is around since, dunno, five to may be even then years?

And any company that didn't bother with getting it installed won't bother with placing somebody infront of a PC, checking weather or not you posted something during worktime, by manually checking the forums.

Exterminas:

Aurgelmir:
[quote="Agayek" post="7.208948.7074104"]
-He dislikes that you play wow, and have a tendency to post during working hours.
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This argument is really flawed. Any company that cares about what their folks do during worktime can protocoll the sites they visit during worktime.

This technology is around since, dunno, five to may be even then years?

And any company that didn't bother with getting it installed won't bother with placing somebody infront of a PC, checking weather or not you posted something during worktime, by manually checking the forums.

Oh but you forget the "he dislikes you playing wow" part also.

Sadly there is a huge stigma connected to playing MMOGs, which is why not everyone wants to broadcast that they play them to the world.

I'm not sure about that. I don't think you can be fired for playing wow and since a few million people do it. May be this opening of Wow, from a nerd-based-game towards more socially accepted phenomenons of the internet (like facebook), will cause society to think more positive about wow, or game in general.

So this developement might be wrong, but it could turn out contructive for gaming as a whole.

My alias is something I value very much, because well...it's my name here and not only here. How about a system that gives your alias some sort of "street cred" in forums? Hey, that guy posts on that many forums and is a member of that many communities and is a valued contributor there. So he's using the same name here and that should mean he's not just grabbed genericusername#150 to spew around troll juice on our board.

Neither you nor an effing games company need to know my real name. But I have nothing against people googleing my alias to find out how I tick.

At first I was like "meh", but then I was like "FFFFUUUUUUU--". I'm not sure I want to use Blizzard's forums now.

JourneyThroughHell:

Omikron009:
Here's what I wonder about this policy. How do they ensure that you use your real name, and not a made up one? I don't think they can.

Yeah, this leaves me wondering, too.
I mean, if there is not way to ensure the validity of the names, Blizzard is giving trolls more opportunity to screw with regular users.
So, this doesn't sound too good.

It uses the name of your battlenet account, so most people who were around before any of this crap was announced will propably have used their real name.

You can't change it now either, becaue all your blizard games (and your wow accound) are bound to that battlenet ID

As much as I'd like to think that people value their basic freedoms, I doubt that many Blizzard customers are going to object to this. It definitely won't make a difference in etiquette, and in the face of instant gratification through playing a game, I doubt that many are going to consider the repercussions of a potential future employer using Google to research their identity.

On another note, the US government is attempting to employ a similar strategy by requiring the internet version of a passport/driver's license/social security card to get rid of anonymity. Some articles for reference:

Financial Times: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f416e31e-80af-11df-be5a-00144feabdc0.html

Infosec Island: https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/4501-The-Death-of-Internet-Anonymity.html

JourneyThroughHell:

Omikron009:
Here's what I wonder about this policy. How do they ensure that you use your real name, and not a made up one? I don't think they can.

Yeah, this leaves me wondering, too.
I mean, if there is not way to ensure the validity of the names, Blizzard is giving trolls more opportunity to screw with regular users.
So, this doesn't sound too good.

One should probably point out that you can't post on a battle.net forum unless you own a BLizzard game. So although you probably can't ensure a real name, you can prevent account spamming.

NLS:
I heard something about this RealID thing that you have to connect it with your Facebook account?

You don't. You can use Facebook, but RealID isn't more than the name on your Battle.net account.

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