Pokemon Black & White Changing More Than You Think

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Pokemon Black & White Changing More Than You Think

The upcoming Pokemon Black & White will actually have differences between versions that go beyond the series' standard "different 'mons for different games" paradigm.

Since the original Red & Blue games, different versions of the Pokemon titles have essentially been the same game with minor differences - you can catch certain Pokemon in one game that you cant in its twin. Growlithe may only be available in Red and Vulpix might only be in Blue, but other than that, the rest of the game is perfectly identical from beginning to end.

Not so with Pokemon Black & White, it would seem. On the latest episode of Pokemon Sunday - you know, the Japanese TV show where grown men and women dress in absurd costumes to be slightly too enthusiastic about all things Pokemon - we learned a bit more about the upcoming games. We were introduced to the new rivals (of which there are two or three this time around), and it was revealed that Black and White wouldn't just have different Pokemon - but entirely different places to visit, as well.

Where Pokemon Black has the Black City, Pokemon White has the more traditional-looking White Forest. It isn't exactly clear if the places will actually be different beyond a mere change in aesthetic, but they certainly don't look alike, even if they have similar layouts. I'd love to see the two locations have different Gyms, for one - one is ripe for a Dark-type gym, and the other would fit a Grass-type trainer nicely, don't you think?

Unfortunately, seeing as how I don't speak a lick of Japanese other than what I've picked up from anime over the years, I can't make heads or tails from the rest of the video. The best I can come up with is that you'll be able to make your Pokemon take naps, and then your Pokemon can dream that they're battling and capturing other Pokemon, only it'll actually happen.

So it's kind of like Nightmare on Elm Street in a way, only cuter.

Which of the two versions are you leaning toward, so far?

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Well I'm still confused about which Legendary will be in which game... so I'm just going to get the one with the big black chicken thing.

I'm glad they're changing Pokemon... I mean, I've got five Pokemon games with me at the time and I've had many more over the years and they're all pretty much exactly the same. Not that it's a problem, because they found a formula that worked, but this sounds like it could use the basics of the formula and expand on it more than any other game. Of course the starter Pokemon are some of the worst I've seen (don't you dare mention my Piplup).

Its an interesting feature, and looks like it could have some potential. But that doesn't really change my position on the games anyway. I'm probably going to get one, namely Black (cos im... actually, i dont know why). And I will enjoy it. It will be a refinement or subtly changing variation on the formula that made gold 14 years ago, and I cant see any reason to change it too drastically.

Well nice to see them changing the formula a little! Although wonder if it will be more than skin deep...

John Funk:
The best I can come up with is that you'll be able to make your Pokemon take naps, and then your Pokemon can dream that they're battling and capturing other Pokemon, only it'll actually happen.

Huh? That's an ... interesting idea.

Not sure which version yet, seeing as we really only have the legendaries to decide. The black dragon looks cooler, but I'm a huge fire Pokemon fan.

ProfessorLayton:
Of course the starter Pokemon are some of the worst I've seen (don't you dare mention my Piplup).

I'm gonna mention Piplup because Empoleon is a badass.

That's clearly just one city with two different skins. They even had the exact same guy in the exact same spot. I'm hoping they change some of the events or something to make it more interesting. Either way, I'm probably going to wait for the third version to come out. It's always the best.

Pokemon sunday?

I want to know and at the same time don't. Anyway, I may buy this game...

I'd definitely spring for Black version, Black City sounds badass.

Well, glad to see Nintendo taking a step away from the old. Newness: here we come.

As for me, neither game. I stopped playing Pokemon at Silver. Maybe Black & White will change the formula, but I'm not convinced.

So in order to play the whole of the new versions...I will have to buy copies of both..not just have an opposite version to my friend...Well that SUCKS

Im leaning towards black just because of Black city, who needs a forrest when you have a city.

I'll be getting White methinks. I like the main legendary more, and the exclusive pokemon, cities and areas that have been revealed are better on White in my opinion.

I think exclusive gyms and the like would be a great idea! I'm hoping they have exclusive legendaries besides the normal ones on the front of the box too. It would give me a better incentive to play both, as they won't be the same game.

ProfessorLayton:
Well I'm still confused about which Legendary will be in which game... so I'm just going to get the one with the big black chicken thing.

Looks like the black one is in White and the white on is in Black. Which is sad 'cause I wanted to get Black Version and the black one. :/

Also, the bird they showed towards the end actually looks kinda cool.

I really want this now. Fuck HeartGold and SoulSilver..

The idea of having different areas is actually something I like. It makes the games less cookie cutter. Hopefully the two versions have a different story-line as well.

As for which version I want, well, I really want the black legendary, but I can't pass up the chance to explore the Black City.

I love how they improved the battle animations. Shit's gonna be tiiiiight.

I really like the look of the new pokemon, 'cept for that squirrel thing. This is probably the first Pokemon game I've been excited for since red/blue.

Ugh, why isn't it a worldwide release? 20-frickin-11.

I had to turn off the show, purely for its ridiculousness.

It's an interesting change. This will probably result in people buying both versions.

Its completely off-track how the creatures become less pokemon and more Polish stuffed animal.

And it's only taken them 14 years to realise they should maybe shake things up a bit, rejoice!

Hmm, I prefer the Pokemon Black mascot (the white thingie) but I don't like the techno-aestethics. So I'm torn in between... Perhaps Pokemon Grey will be the solution?

this is kkinda cool chanig the games like that. even if it is a small change

SirBryghtside:
It looks totally epic so far! But I already agreed to White, so I'll get the forest rather than awesome techno, damn it! Although Zekrom looks far cooler than Reshiram.

But I have a theory now... it's kinda depressing, too...

I think this is the last Pokemon game. Ever.

Ever wonder why they made it for the average DS? The 3DS is much too hi-res to accomodate this series, just like the way that airships were taken out of Final Fantasy.

So put all your petty hates about the new pokemon aside, and salute this last offering for wat it will be - amazing.

Nah, Pokemans makes billions and billions of greenbacks for Nintendo. 'Guranteed' billions at that, this new one will easily sell over 10 million copies. You don't just stop something like that.

For.I.Am.Mad:

SirBryghtside:
It looks totally epic so far! But I already agreed to White, so I'll get the forest rather than awesome techno, damn it! Although Zekrom looks far cooler than Reshiram.

But I have a theory now... it's kinda depressing, too...

I think this is the last Pokemon game. Ever.

Ever wonder why they made it for the average DS? The 3DS is much too hi-res to accomodate this series, just like the way that airships were taken out of Final Fantasy.

So put all your petty hates about the new pokemon aside, and salute this last offering for wat it will be - amazing.

Nah, Pokemans makes billions and billions of greenbacks for Nintendo. 'Guranteed' billions at that, this new one will easily sell over 10 million copies. You don't just stop something like that.

That, and Airships never left Final Fantasy.... there's even one in 13, even if you don't get to pilot it.

OT: I think this may be the Pokemon game to not make me physically tired during play... I honestly had to force myself to stay awake during a round of combat in SoulSilver...

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kyosai7:

For.I.Am.Mad:

SirBryghtside:
It looks totally epic so far! But I already agreed to White, so I'll get the forest rather than awesome techno, damn it! Although Zekrom looks far cooler than Reshiram.

But I have a theory now... it's kinda depressing, too...

I think this is the last Pokemon game. Ever.

Ever wonder why they made it for the average DS? The 3DS is much too hi-res to accomodate this series, just like the way that airships were taken out of Final Fantasy.

So put all your petty hates about the new pokemon aside, and salute this last offering for wat it will be - amazing.

Nah, Pokemans makes billions and billions of greenbacks for Nintendo. 'Guranteed' billions at that, this new one will easily sell over 10 million copies. You don't just stop something like that.

That, and Airships never left Final Fantasy.... there's even one in 13, even if you don't get to pilot it.

OT: I think this may be the Pokemon game to not make me physically tired during play... I honestly had to force myself to stay awake during a round of combat in SoulSilver...

an interesting sidenote: when gold and silver were being produced gamefreak were under the impression that it was going to be the last pokemon game and they went all out 9included the two continents) after nintendo saw how well it sold they decided to keep making games.

I personally dont think pokemon is ending anytime soon. gamefreak was one of the first companys confirmed to be playing around with the 3ds. that story was released months before we knew anything about the system. If anything I think its going to turn out that the new games have some sort of 3ds integration, possibly even 3d graphics, if its as simple to do as nintendo says.

EDIT: also that dream pokemon (pink thing with the purple stuff coming out of its mouth) allows your pokemon to dream that they are playing with other pokemon (possibly ones from other games you own) you will play minigames together online on some website and if the pokemon become friends then you will be able to attempt to capture the pokemon. that sounds pretty lame to me to be honest.

I don't think I could ever play another Pokemon game ever again, no matter how many silly new features they throw in. SoulSilver was it for me, the last harrah. I've said my goodbyes, let another generation play these games - its all too samey in the end.

I'll get both. I always get both, anyway.

One for SERIOUS BUSINESS Battle Frontier/Competitive play.

And one for restarting over and over for fun.

From what I could glean, it seems to be just graphical upgrades. I might miss out on these new ones unless they show a bit
more.

I'm waiting for Gray. Every generation I've played so far, I've gotten one version or the other, then when the 3rd game comes out, it's better (with the exception of Yellow). Also, by the time Black/White come out, I'll probably be working on the Elite 4 in HeartGold.

I'm going to go with Black first, due to the whole 'City' aspect. I don't need another 'boy wakes up in small town' plot. I want to see if they expand on the city for your character or something.

ProfessorLayton:
Well I'm still confused about which Legendary will be in which game... so I'm just going to get the one with the big black chicken thing.

I'm glad they're changing Pokemon... I mean, I've got five Pokemon games with me at the time and I've had many more over the years and they're all pretty much exactly the same. Not that it's a problem, because they found a formula that worked, but this sounds like it could use the basics of the formula and expand on it more than any other game. Of course the starter Pokemon are some of the worst I've seen (don't you dare mention my Piplup).

The black one is in White and the white on is in Black. Which means I'm getting White.

edthehyena:
I'm waiting for Gray. Every generation I've played so far, I've gotten one version or the other, then when the 3rd game comes out, it's better (with the exception of Yellow). Also, by the time Black/White come out, I'll probably be working on the Elite 4 in HeartGold.

how was yellow not better than red and blue you got all three starters within the first 2-4 hours of the game. I wish they made every third release game like that.

New combat looks really nice in action. Pokemon and attack animations are super nice :3

Definitely getting White too. It has the black legendary (pparently) and more trees! I like more greenery in my games.

Which of the two versions are you leaning toward, so far?

Pokemon BLACK! It just.....calls out

By the way, Does anyone know if you're pokemon can walk by you like in "HeartGold\SoulSilver? Or if they put in an option to toggle it this time around?

If not....I'm just going to feel lonely :(

kevo.mf.last:

how was yellow not better than red and blue you got all three starters within the first 2-4 hours of the game. I wish they made every third release game like that.

Unlike the other 3rd games, Yellow had a weaker story, less interesting characters (Jesse and James), and you had to have that stupid pikachu following you around all the time. By making it more in line with the show, they made the game more childish than Red/Blue. Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum each took that generation's story a bit farther.

I kinda want to buy Black, but I don't like the White Pokémon (You know, the feathery jet thing) that's in Black so... gaah!

Kudos for nintendo, by changing the formula and using 3D instead of just pixels, the pokemonfranchise may improve instead of going even further downhill.

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