Valve Files Trademark for ... DotA?

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Valve Files Trademark for ... DotA?

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Popular PC developer Valve has registered a trademark for what is apparently popular Warcraft III mod Defense of the Ancients.

If you've never played Defense of the Ancients, it's a wildly popular custom game built using the Warcraft III map editor in which players control a single hero (rather than an army) in a team battle to destroy the other team's base. I also question why you clicked on this news piece in the first place, but that's beside the point.

There has been some intriguing buzz as of late regarding DotA and beloved Steam-powered kingpin Valve. It started back in 2009, when Valve hired DotA developer Icefrog to work on a project that would make DotA fans "as excited as [he was]." It continued just a few days ago, when voice actor Jon St. John - also known as the voice of Duke Nukem - reportedly posted a Tweet that has since been deleted:

"Had a great time in Seattle last week recording for DotA. The guys at ValveSoftware are awesome! Going to PAX? Might see you there - Sept3-5"

Now, Valve has filed a trademark for something called "DOTA." While none of this is absolute concrete evidence that Valve is working on its own DotA clone - to join the ranks of League of Legends, Heroes of Newerth and Demigod - it's more than enough to make one wonder. Ah, maybe it'll just be a TF2 mod.

While DOTA is immediately recognizable to anyone who's ever played the original game, might I suggest some other alternate titles: GLeague of GLaDOS? Heroes of Newell? Demigordon, perhaps?

(superannuation, via Destructoid)

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DOTA = Duke of the Ancients.

Interesting stuff. Well, kind of, it has Valve in it. Hopefully it won't just be like what they did with Alien Swarm, hire people who made a previous game, and then let them release a version of that game which is boring and has practically no content to play.

heheheh I made a thread a while ago about this :P

I always hated DOTA, but that's mainly because the mass amount of DOTA games reduced the number of tower defense and gladiator games.

If I try it now, I might like it.

Thumper17:
DOTA = Duke of the Ancients.

Valve making Duke Nukem? Well, guess we can rest assured that's not coming out for another twelve years...

OT, I'm intrigued.

So are Valve helping to develop an RTS now? Sounds good to me, anything they help out with turns out amazing ^_^

DotA = pure crack

ultimateownage:
Interesting stuff. Well, kind of, it has Valve in it.

My feelings exactly.

I hate DotA forever. It's not even fun. But if it'll get all of the DotA fanatics all clumped into one area of the internet, I'm all for it.

Woodsey:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-10-valve-still-working-on-dota-project

It is what they're working on.

...all of that is information that was in the original post, yes :P

Hmm, fascinating. If this is true I would love to see what Valve does with it.

ultimateownage:
Interesting stuff. Well, kind of, it has Valve in it. Hopefully it won't just be like what they did with Alien Swarm, hire people who made a previous game, and then let them release a version of that game which is boring and has practically no content to play.

If Valve is filing a trademark then you can bet they aim to make money off of it. Alien Swarm is free to play, and as such doesn't really carry much expectations except some casual gaming to it.

It'll have to be pretty good to dent LoL though, which has evolved into something fairly unique and polished.

Intresting...I wonder where they are going with this...Wouldnt mind some fresh DotA action!

"GLeague of GLaDOS? Heroes of Newell? Demigordon, perhaps?"

2 words: Fucking awesome.

Doesn't this run into some problems with Blizzard, or no? I mean, it was a map in a Blizzard game originally.

But, but, but what about Episode 3? :(
Oh well, hopefully Valve knows what they're doing.

Uh, doesn't Blizzard own "Defense of the Ancients?" Or am I misunderstanding how this works?

John Funk:

Woodsey:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-10-valve-still-working-on-dota-project

It is what they're working on.

...all of that is information that was in the original post, yes :P

Haha, my mistake. I read down the first paragraph, and registered it as you weren't sure if they were; so I put "I'm pretty sure I saw this announced a few days ago" (still having only read the first paragraph) and then found that.

Nevermind then!

There is already Heroes of Newerth.

It is still being added to, but is even now far more immersive than DotA.

I'm surprised people haven't heard about it yet.

http://www.heroesofnewerth.com

Alar:
Doesn't this run into some problems with Blizzard, or no? I mean, it was a map in a Blizzard game originally.

If they give it and the heroes the same name. Then I think, yes that could be problematic.

Am not 100% sure but I think every Wc3 map is the intellectual property of Blizzard.

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And yes people, go ahead and start playing Heroes of Newerth. That game is a bomb.

God I hate DotA. It's just simply not fun. And the nerd rage. Oh, the nerd rage. Sometimes I can still hear it in my sleep...

John Funk:
Demigordon

...

Don't quit your dayjob.

At any rate... Hardly a surprise is it? Valve has a long standing history of acquiring entire "amateur" moding teams and sending them off to the "big leagues". In fact, except for Half-life, every single Valve franchise I can remember was born like that.

Given that, and that one of their latest "acquisitions" was, indeed, the DotA developer, this is hardly unexpected. Still, good to hear more about it.

Alar:
Doesn't this run into some problems with Blizzard, or no? I mean, it was a map in a Blizzard game originally.

Ehh, it's a bit like arguing that Team Fortress is owned by iD (unless I've missed something over they years and that Blizzard really does own all the custom content produced: which makes the merger with Activision seem like a good idea, due to similar policies).

I laughed at "Heroes of Newell".

Alar:
Doesn't this run into some problems with Blizzard, or no? I mean, it was a map in a Blizzard game originally.

Blizzard has no ownership over ANY custom maps. They have as much right to DotA as anyone else.

Aenir:
I laughed at "Heroes of Newell".

Alar:
Doesn't this run into some problems with Blizzard, or no? I mean, it was a map in a Blizzard game originally.

Blizzard has no ownership over ANY custom maps. They have as much right to DotA as anyone else.

Yes Blizzard does own DotA.

GoGo_Boy:

Aenir:
I laughed at "Heroes of Newell".

Alar:
Doesn't this run into some problems with Blizzard, or no? I mean, it was a map in a Blizzard game originally.

Blizzard has no ownership over ANY custom maps. They have as much right to DotA as anyone else.

Yes Blizzard does own DotA.

Uh, no they don't. Unless you can somehow prove they have it trademarked/copyrighted.

Icefrog (current developer of DotA) was hired by Valve months ago for unspecified reasons.
Perhaps they're showing their hand at last?

I could never really get into DotA because everybody was always an asshole to me and kicked me for not having a fucking buy order and character build strategy and other stupid shit. It's become way too exclusive in WC3, and definitely not a good place for noobs.

Interesting. Valve never ceases to surprise us.

Still waiting for HL2: Episode 3.

Aenir:

Uh, no they don't. Unless you can somehow prove they have it trademarked/copyrighted.

Just start the Wc3 Editor man. I'm modding Wc3 since quite some time if you don't trust me, whatever. You don't seem like someone who has a clue of that business so... no thanks. I Won't do you the favor and provide a screen. Just look it up yourself and if you don't even have Wc3 just don't even argue -.-

Aenir:

GoGo_Boy:

Aenir:
I laughed at "Heroes of Newell".

Alar:
Doesn't this run into some problems with Blizzard, or no? I mean, it was a map in a Blizzard game originally.

Blizzard has no ownership over ANY custom maps. They have as much right to DotA as anyone else.

Yes Blizzard does own DotA.

Uh, no they don't. Unless you can somehow prove they have it trademarked/copyrighted.

You, good sir, have to READ the terms and agreements that Blizzard Entertainment presents to you when you want to use the World editor or make a registration onto Battle.Net.

A part of it tells you that YOU, the creator, has no ownership of the Blizzard custom maps, but Blizzard Entertainment alone.
Including the ones you make your own. It's quite sensable since you're using THEIR tool to do it in the first place, as it also only works using Wacraft III.

... Yeah, that's that.

OT: Dota, shmota. I am as surprised as you, News Anchor, that people took interest in this.
... Aren't I being a hypocrite now?

Oh dear lord, I cannot wait for PAX. So much win.

GoGo_Boy:

Aenir:

Uh, no they don't. Unless you can somehow prove they have it trademarked/copyrighted.

Just start the Wc3 Editor man. I'm modding Wc3 since quite some time if you don't trust me, whatever. You don't seem like someone who has a clue of that business so... no thanks. I Won't do you the favor and provide a screen. Just look it up yourself and if you don't even have Wc3 just don't even argue -.-

...What the fuck are you talking about? Blizzard owns the editor, yes. They do not own the customs maps created with it. And be fucking coherent when you type.

iLikeHippos:

Aenir:

GoGo_Boy:

Aenir:
I laughed at "Heroes of Newell".

Alar:
Doesn't this run into some problems with Blizzard, or no? I mean, it was a map in a Blizzard game originally.

Blizzard has no ownership over ANY custom maps. They have as much right to DotA as anyone else.

Yes Blizzard does own DotA.

Uh, no they don't. Unless you can somehow prove they have it trademarked/copyrighted.

You, good sir, have to READ the terms and agreements that Blizzard Entertainment presents to you when you want to use the World editor or make a registration onto Battle.Net.

A part of it tells you that YOU, the creator, has no ownership of the Blizzard custom maps, but Blizzard Entertainment alone.
Including the ones you make your own. It's quite sensable since you're using THEIR tool to do it in the first place, as it also only works using Wacraft III.

... Yeah, that's that.

OT: Dota, shmota. I am as surprised as you, News Anchor, that people took interest in this.
... Aren't I being a hypocrite now?

Okay, they own the maps. They do not own DotA as a property regardless, so the point is moot in this situation.

Yes, they do own DotA :)

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