Hackers Claim to Have Grabbed Halo: Reach From Microsoft Site

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These hackers just probably delayed the release date for everybody.

Treblaine:
PC gaming is dying... all the best games get pirated even before launch.

... wait.

Edit: If Bungie can't keep this under wraps but this unheard of group can, well I severely doubt it. Expect torrents of this within days.

Lies, Piracy is why Warcraft (maybe WoW thanks to private servers) and star craft are so big, If you didnt know Warcraft has a 75% piracy rating thats why its so big and private servers for WoW serve as a free trial.

And even blizzard relessed a patch to remove all DRM from warcraft 3, they know whats good for them

Baldr:
These hackers just probably delayed the release date for everybody.

Relax its just a marketing stunt, if they where smart they would upload the game with link bucks then watch the money roll in, If they are just going to play the game and enjoy it, they are very light minded its like having your cake and not eating it

I don't know really what to feel: Hackers got the game, eh. Micrsoft's security was breached eh, oh wait...

If anything, it's a good lesson that XBL is not 100% crack-proof.

PurpleSky:
Take it away, House :

Come on House, take it to the fridge!

Therumancer:
Hmmm, well my immediate thought on this is to call "BS".

From the way things sound Microsoft probably let the game be leaked in order to generate hype. I mean the story is getting our attention isn't it? Upon reading this tons of interested people going to go around searching for copies, and probably run into 30 tons of advertisement and in the process whip themselves into a frenzy for something they probably won't find, and then wind up anticipating the release even more as they run out to buy the game.

I say this because it strikes me as bloody unlikely that a hacker group would admit something like this, but then not release the game. It sounds like a way of experimenting with having their cake and eating it too, all the publicity from a "we were hacked" stunt without giving away a few thousand copies via torrents before they "catch on" and stop it.

Very cynical. For that, I'm inclined to agree. Or, even if the leak wasn't intentional, MS probably isn't as outraged as they're pretending to be. It's definitely a lot of free publicity, plus it gives the industry giants another weapon to lash out at cracker teams and pirates. Everyone gets hosed.

These people are most likely gonna get sued big time.
Could they really just not wait another month?

I bet somebody will leak it from their servers, and will find a way to a certain body of water that has people associated with scurvy.

zombie711:
This happened with halo 2 and 3. Also if a 360 game is pirated and put on the Internet don't you need a blank 360 disk to play the game, which essentialy means you need a moded 360 and when an update comes you get banned and have to stick to single player

actually no. a disc is a disc. a disc can be used for anything as long as its big enough, you just need to burn it with the right encoding.

They should have just recoded it so it was in big head mode permanently then put back where they found it.

I say M-$oft was asking for it, it was cocky to put it up on Xbox live for any point rating. Serves 'em right for trying to show off.

Well give these guys a cookie for their achievement. Not for downloading a copy of the last Halo game, but for pissing off Microsoft. Nothing pisses off the big bully more than pulling something when their pants are down. I hope these guys are prepared for the consequences, cuz something tells me they are gonna get caught.

Demon ID:
God damn it, I do hope they don't distribute this because I hate the idea of having too stay away from the internet until the 14th.

There will be the temptation. It is always there lurking in the corners. Staring at you.

mad825:
was it logical living it on a open network (on the sense of making it connected to the mesh,the internet) anyway? surely they must have seen something like this coming.

My opinion is right here.

Why would they make it available over the internet if they didn't expect someone to hack it? Seriously, you are not infallible Microsoft, people will find a way to get your shit regardless of security. People like that DO exist

Fortunately, If the need arises I can put my fingers in my ears, and go LALALALALALALALALAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!! until the 14th.

Therumancer:
*snip*
I say this because it strikes me as bloody unlikely that a hacker group would admit something like this, but then not release the game. It sounds like a way of experimenting with having their cake and eating it too, all the publicity from a "we were hacked" stunt without giving away a few thousand copies via torrents before they "catch on" and stop it.

Why wouldn't the hackers admit to it. That's the whole point. There would be no point in doing it if no one knew you did it. That would be like landing on Mars and not telling anyone. It's just a pissing contest; It's all for bragging rights. If they get caught, it means they did something worth catching. If they don't get caught it means they're better than those who would catch them.

Anything to sucker-punch Xbox Live isn't necessarily all bad. Sort like my enemy's enemy is my friend. I won't promote piracy, I can fully comprehend it's tangible impact, but I will openly blast Microsoft's monopolistic hold on it's online service, and the idiotic way they force people to pay to play.

And before the argument starts, yes it is forced, because by paying for a game, yet you cannot fully experience all of it's advertised features without being forced to pay an extra fee. Those are the facts, that's my stance, and I'm sticking to it.

Also, I'm so out of touch I didn't even know there was another Halo coming out. I thought they finished it as a trilogy and some strategy game or something.

I'm actually siding with the hackers on this one. Microsoft brought this on themselves by making a hyped unreleased game available to reviewers via online download instead of just mailing them actual disc copies instead like everybody else.

Therumancer:
It strikes me as bloody unlikely that a hacker group would admit something like this, but then not release the game. It sounds like a way of experimenting with having their cake and eating it too, all the publicity from a "we were hacked" stunt without giving away a few thousand copies via torrents before they "catch on" and stop it.

As strange as it sounds, it's actually very common for a hacker group to do something incredible and then keep it to themselves, especially in the console modding community.

I'll be honest with you, this stinks of script kiddies trying to get virtual viagra for their e-penises.

Also, I have to admit that if they did get the game, they're fucking stupid. After stealing a highly anticipated game from one of the richest companies on Earth, they then go and publicly announce it?

I hope Microsoft take the Nintendo route of legal action and hit them with a lawsuit for a couple of million.

Straying Bullet:
Proof or it didn't happen.

I am curious though.

My first thoughts echo your post, but......

I just hacked a version of Bioshock 3, but I'm not going to share it tho.

wee pyrats r rely frigin kewl

I laugh when people support these kinda illegal activities. I laugh even harder when kids who hack/pirate/steal go to jail.

Breaking the law is cool tho, so keep on fighting the good fight by being thieves that think the world owes you something!

Lol, I love these stories!

if this did really happen (and i am doubtful)

theres not really a lot microsoft and bungi can do....i mean sure they can sit there and make big threats but not a lot else

they should count themselfs lucky there is no spoilers out and that its not being relesed and work on somwhere safer for there Data

I will be honest, I was kinda expecting this to happen.
If Microsoft honestly didn't predict this after listing it on the Marketplace they're even foolisher than I thought.

A quick look at a popular torrent site or two shows no signs of it being leaked out yet...

SlainPwner666:
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Good Avatar.

zombie711:
if a 360 game is pirated and put on the Internet don't you need a blank 360 disk to play the game, which essentialy means you need a moded 360 and when an update comes you get banned and have to stick to single player

Not necessarily. Various updates can cripple a modded 360, however modders can often counter this by updating newer versions of their firmware allowing (if only temporarily) online play. It's a game of table tennis basically. Each attempting to counter what has been done by the other side.

0a0x0e0:

Daystar Clarion:
Who would risk being sued by MS for a Halo game? If it was something like Kotor 3 I could understand.

So in other words "I can't understand why anybody else would have a view point different than my own!"

Pretty much. :)

JakeTheSnakeMan:
Why wouldn't the hackers admit to it. That's the whole point. There would be no point in doing it if no one knew you did it. That would be like landing on Mars and not telling anyone. It's just a pissing contest; It's all for bragging rights. If they get caught, it means they did something worth catching. If they don't get caught it means they're better than those who would catch them.

That's BS, there are many hackers who do not announce when they've hacked anything, and simply do it for the joy of hacking.

Mackheath:
Well, since Blizzard hammered a single person for $88 million, Microsoft will probably find them, get them in the courts and sued for their souls and every penny they have touched or will ever touch.

Blizzard got $3 million, which was a reasonable amount given how said server made about $3 million worth of microtransactions during it's lifetime, the $85 million of "statutory damages" went to actishit.

Arachon:

JakeTheSnakeMan:
Why wouldn't the hackers admit to it. That's the whole point. There would be no point in doing it if no one knew you did it. That would be like landing on Mars and not telling anyone. It's just a pissing contest; It's all for bragging rights. If they get caught, it means they did something worth catching. If they don't get caught it means they're better than those who would catch them.

That's BS, there are many hackers who do not announce when they've hacked anything, and simply do it for the joy of hacking.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but... how do you know?

ionveau:

Treblaine:
PC gaming is dying... all the best games get pirated even before launch.

... wait.

Edit: If Bungie can't keep this under wraps but this unheard of group can, well I severely doubt it. Expect torrents of this within days.

Lies, Piracy is why Warcraft (maybe WoW thanks to private servers) and star craft are so big, If you didnt know Warcraft has a 75% piracy rating thats why its so big and private servers for WoW serve as a free trial.

And even blizzard relessed a patch to remove all DRM from warcraft 3, they know whats good for them

Sorry, I was being sarcastic when I said "piracy = PC gaming dying". Thought that was clear with the

"... wait."

bit.

My point is the consoles are almost as inundated with piracy as PC. Publicly we know 1 million Xbox consoles were kicked from live for modding but that's just the consoles kicked from live, they are still out there able to play pirate games. I think that is only the tip of the iceberg. And PS3 has just been opened up to an even more devastating exploit with no soldering required.

But that shouldn't matter, though certain developers have scorned and spurned PC releases for paranoia over piracy I remember hearing from an app developer for the iPhone who praised the success of releasing your software free with support and reliable distribution networks with 95% functionality then charge for an almost identical version. He bemoaned the old model of charging for every single copy, became irrelevant as there were so many middle men taking a cut they could sell millions of a very good (and expensive) program and make a loss while every middle man made profit.

Releasing free was self-advertising. By making tens of millions of people love your product, Millions bought the app out of recognition who'd never bought it before.

This is not pie in the sky "wouldn't it be nice" this is ACTUALLY WORKING!

The same people who say "yeah I like the game but I'll pirate it, wont bother paying" are the same type of people who ALWAYS buy pre-owned. Prejudiced minds will filter out all other opinions and focus on these dissenters as reason to abandon previous PC commitments (thanks cliff with Gears 2), you won't get a single dollar from them on console either, only gamestop will profit on the re-sale.

It says something about those certain developers when they seem deaf and blind to the ardent fanbase eager to pay, yet with only ears for childish trolls on 4chan. Mind you, in the case of Gears of War 2 Microsoft didn't have a single exclusive shooter for that year... who wants to bet they vetoed the PC release just to generate artificial exclusivity?

Maybe Microsoft's servers would be more secure if they ran Linux. They wouldn't have these problems then.

Big companies getting hacked (re: leaking) games isnt anything new. Its' this or pay a bunch of reviewers to give a good score to it. Either way they get good publicty about a product.

How is this even possible? Microsoft are one of the richest most powerful transnational corporations in the world with a massive budget and they practically invented computers yet they can't protect themselves against some random hackers :o

Just a reminder of who's boss really. Everything they make for millions can be ripped down for nothing. Ironically Microsoft made it easy, invented most of the tools and the platform that gets used for hacking the most.

"other evidence"? elaboration plz?

If they love Halo so much that they'll hack it, they'll probably still buy the legendary edition when it comes out anyway. So, Microsoft wins.

THAC0:
I'll bet the modders only got the game so they could see if they liked it enough to buy it. that is how pirates work right? Micro$oft just can't stand it when someone supports there games enough to steal them before they come out. Shameful Micro$oft, really.

These guys are prolly hardcore Halo fans, so I guess they pirated it... Because they could.

And sadly, the friends I have who pirates, dont just do it to "check it out".
One of them havent even bought an honest game for years :/

yeah..because without my bungie.net forum membership..my internet would die. /sarcasm

fuck you bungie..

and shame on you Microsoft if you left it where someone could get to it.

Can only wait and see what Microsoft will do if they find the perpetrator of those claims... :-/

I have no problem with these hackers, it's funny, and I give them props on the hack.

Why do they not piss me off? Two reasons

1.) They did no (reported) damage to the servers
2.) They are not going to distribute it

As long as they don't change their plan and start distributing it, Microsoft really suffers no damage from this, in fact, it's free publicity, so it's probably a bit of a positive event for them.

Plus, I get to read a "dream story" much in the same way that someone with an oppressive job loves stories about people quitting in an extravagant manner, I love stories about hackers doing amazing things.

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