Microsoft: Kinect To Last Five Years, 3D Common in Three

Microsoft: Kinect To Last Five Years, 3D Common in Three

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Microsoft's European VP is hoping to wring another five years out of the Xbox 360 through Kinect, and believes there is "no doubt" that 3D gaming will take off in three years.

Chris Lewis, vice president of Microsoft's European interactive entertainment branch, has confirmed that the company plans to sit on the Xbox 360 for a while now that Kinect is coming to consumers. And despite Microsoft's view that 3D is a future technology, Lewis actually has a strong belief that it'll take over the game industry in the next few years.

In an interview with BusinessWeek Lewis said: "Kinect really gives us, I think, a very genuine additional five years." He's hoping that the motion camera device will bring in a whole new sect of game players. "What Kinect does is broaden us out to users that we weren't addressing in the past," he believes. This includes Justin Bieber fans.

Oddly enough, Lewis also seems to have mentioned the possibility of releasing a new console alongside the Xbox 360. BusinessWeek writes that Microsoft "might release a new console while the Xbox 360 is still on sale," with Lewis commenting: "But we're not fixated on that right now." What this exactly was referring to is unknown, but Microsoft assuredly is focusing on trying to make Kinect a success with the mainstream for now.

3D console gaming is Sony's big thing at the moment, with Nintendo covering the handheld space, but Microsoft has been totally absent from any mention of its future containing a 3D component. Still, of 3D gaming becoming widespread, Lewis says: "We are two to three years away from that, till the price point comes down, till the experience is sufficiently social, that you don't sit there with big glasses on and don't talk to your family. That will happen, there's no doubt." If Microsoft does have super secret plans to get into 3D, it's keeping them under wraps.

Source: BusinessWeek

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iam not ready for a new console gen until at least 2013, because ill will have ps3 for 6 years and 360 for 4 years in 2013.

3D gives me a headache. Why does everyone like it so much?

Chunko:
3D gives me a headache. Why does everyone like it so much?

Personally ive never met anyone who was crazy about it. Most of them dont wanna pay the extra money for 3d films at the cinema, let alone buy a super expensive 3dtv

Chunko:
3D gives me a headache. Why does everyone like it so much?

Maybe because the masses don't have as much imagination as me and you, so they need another immersive device to help them enjoy things more.

It seems that Microsoft are being very ambitious with a gimmick that failed Nintendo after only a few years.

5 years!! games are allready very close to the bar on the 360 now.
i want to see more enemies on the screen faster load times and smoother controls 3d just hurts my eyes :(

-THQ says console gaming is dying and is glad that it is
-Piracy reaches crescendo levels on 360 with Halo Reach leak
-PS3 gets busted wide open by pirates
-Casual-isation with coming Move + Kinect also Wii's exponential success
-also extending this generation to be a full TEN YEARS LONG
-Xbox 360 S revealed to be as unreliable as previous models
-3D being forced on mainstream consoles
-Starcraft II release
-WoW Cataclysm release
-both to huge success

Console gaming is looking to be in a pretty poor state at the moment

thats too soon for 3D hell the UK population hasn't even cottoned on to Digital TV signals yet

3D WILL BE common in three years, just like porches, condos, jet packs, and butlers. All common in three years. Because hell, who can't afford to replace a $2,500-$5000 TV on a tech whim? Joe six-pack is just made of money, so obviously Joe six-pack will want whatever Microsoft tells him he'll want, thus making 3D, clearly the next hugely orgasmic breakthrough in entertainment technology a commonplace thing in three years.

For god's sake who doesn't light their Cubans with $100 bills these days?

Also, 3D is SO not a gimmick.... yeah...

Has anybody actually met someone who thinks either Kinect or 3D gaming/cinema is a good idea? I mean I've seen them online like commenting on youtube videos, but I literally don't know anyone who's said anything positive on either 3D gaming/cinema or Kinect.

At least Microsoft are waiting to see if it becomes successful.

and i wish everyone would should up about kinect, your bashing something before it comes out, expecting it to fail.

i would laugh if Kinect was acctualy successful.

Treblaine:
-THQ says console gaming is dying and is glad that it is
-Piracy reaches crescendo levels on 360 with Halo Reach leak
-PS3 gets busted wide open by pirates
-Casual-isation with coming Move + Kinect also Wii's exponential success
-also extending this generation to be a full TEN YEARS LONG
-Xbox 360 S revealed to be as unreliable as previous models
-3D being forced on mainstream consoles
-Starcraft II release
-WoW Cataclysm release
-both to huge success

Console gaming is looking to be in a pretty poor state at the moment

Yeh and PC gaming isn't a bit under the weather is it? PC gaming is acctualy the best thing ever! no problems at all!
/sarcasm

Pirating also happens on PC no excuse. The piracy issue has been dealt with, anyone who play's Halo Reach online before the release date is getting permanently banned. and saying the Xbox 360 is unreliable is getting pretty old now, we have known since 2005.

And yey, 2 games will make the PC better than consoles wont it? have you seen the Console titles coming up lately?

im sorry but most of the problems you listed also affect the PC.

Both machines are doing just fine (well ish) neither are doing better than each other.

Ultimately, Kinect won't give Microsoft another 5 years. No way. However, I would imagine that the "other machine" is most likely their back up plan in case Kinect fails: pull a Wii and make motion controls the centre of the machine.

3D common in three?! Kinect to last five years?!?! 3D will last half of that before it fades away, and Kinect's line up of games is needless to say, shit. It could get better, granted, but it doesn't change the fact that this man is talking through his asshole.

Chunko:
3D gives me a headache. Why does everyone like it so much?

You're walking around with a constant headache unless you close one of your eyes? I'd have that looked at, if I were you. :P

Microsoft: the land of dreamers.

I'd rather a console powerful enough to push a 1080p resolution instead of having to run every game at 720p or lower.

arc1991:
At least Microsoft are waiting to see if it becomes successful.

and i wish everyone would should up about kinect, your bashing something before it comes out, expecting it to fail.

i would laugh if Kinect was acctualy successful.

Treblaine:
-THQ says console gaming is dying and is glad that it is
-Piracy reaches crescendo levels on 360 with Halo Reach leak
-PS3 gets busted wide open by pirates
-Casual-isation with coming Move + Kinect also Wii's exponential success
-also extending this generation to be a full TEN YEARS LONG
-Xbox 360 S revealed to be as unreliable as previous models
-3D being forced on mainstream consoles
-Starcraft II release
-WoW Cataclysm release
-both to huge success

Console gaming is looking to be in a pretty poor state at the moment

Yeh and PC gaming isn't a bit under the weather is it? PC gaming is acctualy the best thing ever! no problems at all!
/sarcasm

Pirating also happens on PC no excuse. The piracy issue has been dealt with, anyone who play's Halo Reach online before the release date is getting permanently banned. and saying the Xbox 360 is unreliable is getting pretty old now, we have known since 2005.

And yey, 2 games will make the PC better than consoles wont it? have you seen the Console titles coming up lately?

im sorry but most of the problems you listed also affect the PC.

Both machines are doing just fine (well ish) neither are doing better than each other.

yeah, what great exclusive games are coming up for xbox 360?

-Halo Reach
-err...
-...that's it

PC will soon have:
-Civilisation V
-Star Wars: Old Republic

If any platform is guilty of depending on one exclusive to its relevance it is Xbox 360 and their singular decent First party development every year. Halo one year, Gears another year.

My point about piracy is there is nothing special about consoles. In many ways they are MORE vulnerable as the entire console model is not about luring customers in, but LOCKING them into a walled garden of controlled and exploitative prices.

Sinclose:
click on the name "sinclose" to see my case for why Microsoft's response is the WORST response

Microsoft's response is to close the stable door once the horse has bolted.

The piracy issue has NOT been "dealt with" it has only made it WORSE! Banning them from Xbox Live does dick all to stop them pirating, instead it leaves piracy as their ONLY option. This ban was not for people who HAVE pirated Halo Reach, but just because they have a modded console meaning they simply COULD!

Now no new games will work with those Xbox 360 consoles (no more updates) so they are forced to resort to custom firmware updates and copied games to work with those custom firmware.

Piracy has been spanked on PC by "carrot" not "stick".

Give so many advantages to the legitimate version that it becomes more trouble than it is worth trying to get it to work on pirate versions. Like the endless Team Fortress 2 weapons updates, L4D2's weekly "mutation", such robust game support across multiple platforms, Steam sales (oh wow those sales) and bundles that are irresistible and at the same time you don't want to jeopardise by hacking your steam client. Ubisoft has abandoned their ridiculous DRM after a remarkably short time.

Sir Moomin:
5 years!! games are allready very close to the bar on the 360 now.
i want to see more enemies on the screen faster load times and smoother controls 3d just hurts my eyes :(

Microsoft's Response: No! We want you to dance in front of our Kinect. Dance! Dance, Monkey!!! [initiate evil laugh]

Unfortunately for us, Microsoft is banking on Kinect likely from lack of creativity on how to otherwise expand the 360 console. After having the 360 for quite a while and picking up a PS3 last year, I feel as though the 360 riding on speed bumps as the PS3 picks up its pace for the future.Personally, I would rather see more new IPs and other news reason to invest further in the console I already have instead of buying a $150 attachment for weaker performance and vacuous games.

As for 3D...

Icehearted:
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Excellently stated, who in their right mind and in this global economic status is going to dump money into an expensive and new technology like 3D so early?

arc1991:
Pirating also happens on PC no excuse. The piracy issue has been dealt with, anyone who play's Halo Reach online before the release date is getting permanently banned. and saying the Xbox 360 is unreliable is getting pretty old now, we have known since 2005.

And yey, 2 games will make the PC better than consoles wont it? have you seen the Console titles coming up lately?

im sorry but most of the problems you listed also affect the PC.

Both machines are doing just fine (well ish) neither are doing better than each other.

Console defense force, mobilize!

OT: It's interesting to see Microsoft take Sony's approach to Motion controlling this gen? They've gone their own direction, much much different than Wii/Move, and will likely have the same problems at launch and the first 2 years as the PS3 did with developers getting their heads around using it properly. Interesting indeed.

Treblaine:
Piracy has been spanked on PC by "carrot" not "stick".

Give so many advantages to the legitimate version that it becomes more trouble than it is worth trying to get it to work on pirate versions. Like the endless Team Fortress 2 weapons updates, L4D2's weekly "mutation", such robust game support across multiple platforms, Steam sales (oh wow those sales) and bundles that are irresistible and at the same time you don't want to jeopardise by hacking your steam client. Ubisoft has abandoned their ridiculous DRM after a remarkably short time.

Agreed, I'll admit, roll back the clock 10-15 years and I was a hellatious pirate. Nowadays? I have my own income, my own PC, my own consoles etc, and I simply want everything out of my game. Piracy really doesn't do much for me anymore, actually. I don't even download them just to check them out. I pay more attention to the developement process (allot more), so that I know what I want, before it hits shelves.

Actually had this conversation with my brother the other day. He wanted me to pirate FO3 because it's a badass game. I told him, I don't really pirate games anymore, I read/watch dev diaries, concept arts etc... become a member of their forum community and simply watch the development process. And if I don't have the money available when a game launches? It's that much more incentive to work harder to get it.

And in the long run, I get more out of the games, as you say, piracy forces you to miss out on parts of the game these days, and I'm just not interested in going that route.

Does anyone see the size of the room in the picture in the article? Or the amount of space cleared out? I don't have that big of a place to play games, and I don't think that the makers of Kinect understand exactly what's going on here. Motion controls on the whole may be a big boost to getting more poeple into gaming, since it has a fairly easy to understand control scheme, but is it really bringing us the future of gaming, or is it a shallow, sparkly-thing that will only take our eyes away from core gaming for a little while? I don't think the 360 has five years in it with Kinect unless they manage to create a new type of gaming experience, and while that seems to be possible, it doesn't look like what they're going for.

I predict that the Kinect will fail horribly in six months, be quietly retired, but gain a strong fandom amongst a club of about six people who will maintain that it was the most awesome console ever, just like the Dreamcast dudes still floating around to this very day.

I predict that the PlayStation Move will do slightly better, but still will pale in comparison to the Wii.

Ahh more corporate cheerleading maquerading as news from Tommy. I cannot wait to watch the Video Game Division do more damage to Microsoft's profits and value. This is like watching the Galactic Empire insist on making the next Death Star run on coal power, just because they own a lot of coal mines.

jamesworkshop:
thats too soon for 3D hell the UK population hasn't even cottoned on to Digital TV signals yet

XD Preach it. (Me and my family live in England, and I believe my father is still getting his BBC channels from Wales.)

But yeah, it does feel too soon. Most people I know haven't even got HD or Blu-Ray, let alone 3D. The economy is still far too crappy and jobs too scarce -- in the UK, anyway -- for people to just go out and buy the latest fad whenever it pleases them, at thousands of pounds a pop. It actually kinda feels like evil grinning businessmen are really pushing this for all they're worth, that live in lands with unicorns made out of bank notes, and then there's people just pushing it back away like a kid with their plate of veggies, all like, 'Um, no.'

Pugiron:
Ahh more corporate cheerleading maquerading as news from Tommy. I cannot wait to watch the Video Game Division do more damage to Microsoft's profits and value. This is like watching the Galactic Empire insist on making the next Death Star run on coal power, just because they own a lot of coal mines.

Strange, that is exactly the logic the British Empire used with locomotion for the Train Network.

It also ended up in a similar state as the Death Star.

OT: how can they be talking about 3D when most people still are stuck on DVD for their movies and the biggest selling console this generation is NOT a "HD capable" machine like PS3 or 360 but the Wii that can only handle 480p. HD isn't even really here yet, and they are foisting 3D on us?

I'd be surprised if it lasts for more than 2 months. Also, 3D to become common in 3 years? What the fuck is that guy smoking? The prices of 3DTV's are unreasonably high and giving that they STILL require you to wear glasses I'm pretty sure your average Joe will just pass. Unless there's a drastic price drop I can't see 3DTV's succeeding.

Chunko:
3D gives me a headache. Why does everyone like it so much?

Same here.

Beside, I don't have ANY need to switch over to a next-gen console anytime soon. So long they keep up Xbox Live for the 360, I am good. I think the current gen consoles should focus more on software rather than Hardware.

All these millions of dollars spend on devolepment costs and learning the new tech, giving us shitty ass launch titles for a year or two, aren't worth my fucking time anymore.

I am hoping that the next generation won't require motion controls as standard. so many failed control schemes.

I'm now beginning to wonder if the whole 3D for games thing is a possible way for them to try and justify another price raise for the game standard like the jump to the "next gen" years back.

About To Crash:
Snipped

That got me thinking about what Icehearted remarked: Now Joe Six-Pack is going to have to buy a new living room on top of everything else!

Chunko:
3D gives me a headache. Why does everyone like it so much?

Because "focus groups" say you like it.

But you're not alone, fully 12% of the world population is immune to the optical trick that is 3d and another quarter gets migraine attacks from it and I count myself among both those categories.

Mornelithe:

arc1991:
Pirating also happens on PC no excuse. The piracy issue has been dealt with, anyone who play's Halo Reach online before the release date is getting permanently banned. and saying the Xbox 360 is unreliable is getting pretty old now, we have known since 2005.

And yey, 2 games will make the PC better than consoles wont it? have you seen the Console titles coming up lately?

im sorry but most of the problems you listed also affect the PC.

Both machines are doing just fine (well ish) neither are doing better than each other.

Console defense force, mobilize!

OT: It's interesting to see Microsoft take Sony's approach to Motion controlling this gen? They've gone their own direction, much much different than Wii/Move, and will likely have the same problems at launch and the first 2 years as the PS3 did with developers getting their heads around using it properly. Interesting indeed.

I find it funny that MS decides to get in the motion control using the same way that PS has been doing since PS2 (Playstation camera, whatever its called lol). The fact Sony went back and did a movement controller shows that they figured out that you need SOME buttons for a game besides exercise program, which MS seems to have yet to figure out :P

I always wondered where Valve got their time from. Now I understand. The five year lifespan of the Kinect seems to integrate seamlessly with the 1 year development time of Half Life 2: Episode 3.

Treblaine:
-also extending this generation to be a full TEN YEARS LONG

Console gaming is looking to be in a pretty poor state at the moment

If console gaming dies, this will be why. However, if the Big Three really do try this moronic strategy, a third-party will swoop in and corner the market. By 2013, it will be possible to design a better console than the PS3 in a garage. By that date, many games will be as demanding as Crysis and simply too powerful for consoles. The Garagecube will be the only console.

Again, this is only if the Big Three are really planning to hold back on new consoles until 2015. I suspect that in reality, Microsoft and Sony are suffering design delays on the 720 and PS4 and so are giving out worst-case-scenario release dates.

I probably will not get it until the third year it's out.

 

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