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Nintendo Blocks Flash Carts With DSi Software Update

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Nintendo steps out of the courts and takes the fight against DS pirates to cyberspace.

A new firmware update for the Nintendo DSi has apparently blocked a number of flash carts from working with the device. The Nintendo site says that the 1.4.1U update provides the "behind-the-scenes improvements to system performance," which reportedly includes preventing the use of some of the most popular brands of flash carts.

Nintendo has released multiple updates for the Wii in order to combat the use of homebrew and pirated software, but this is the first update for the DSi in over a year. Nintendo's tactic for the DSi has been to appeal to courts, and has won a number of lawsuits in Japan, Australia and Europe either seeking to ban the sale of flash cartridges, or to seek compensation against people selling them.

Most flash cartridges can load firmware updates of their own, so this block is only a temporary solution at best, but considering the massive impact Nintendo claims piracy has on DS software sales - it blamed a drop of nearly 50 percent in European sales on piracy - any reprieve is likely to be welcomed.

Source: Tiny Cartridge

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Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

So the 50% drop number was pulled out of their asses as with all piracy loss numbers?

Interesting; Nintendo actually releasing post-launch support for their hardware.

If only my DS Lite could receive such support!

Onyx Oblivion:

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

You. Stop with the douchebaggery.

OT:

Well, you'd only have the download the update if you went online with it right?

And the DS' online really only used to play 3 games.

Pokemon, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Mariokart.

I do love me a good match of Hunters, though.

So, this really doesn't matter at all.

we need more mods like you.

OT:I dont have a ds. but I want one. in piracy matters, pirates are thieves and should be punished. no questions.

heavymedicombo:

Onyx Oblivion:

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

You. Stop with the douchebaggery.

OT:

Well, you'd only have the download the update if you went online with it right?

And the DS' online really only used to play 3 games.

Pokemon, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Mariokart.

I do love me a good match of Hunters, though.

So, this really doesn't matter at all.

we need more mods like you.

OT:I dont have a ds. but I want one. in piracy matters, pirates are thieves and should be punished. no questions.

I'll inform the 12 year olds that you want them in jail.

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

Someones a Nintendo hater...

You criticize a console for selling? Notice that the article says SOFTWARE, and nothing about the HARDWARE. The only thing even remotely CLOSE to mentioning hardware is the fact that there was a firmware update; nothing was said about the prices.

But lets tackle your little rant. Yes, it was released multiple times (DS, DSLite, DSi, DSiXL), but thats how Nintendo has ALWAYS done their handhelds. If you wait for the re-release of the console, they will usually incorperate features that people deem useful. Personally, for a handheld, I found my original DS a bit bulky. After one too many drops, I decided to spend the money on the DSLite, which was a much slimmer, portable model, that fixed the lighting issues. The DSi allowed users to use a memory stick for extra features, and the DSiXL gave people a hand-held console for people who don't plan to take the DS with them.

As for no excluse games, are you serious? I guess those Nintendo IP's that rake in major money (Ya know, Pokemon, Zelda, Mario, Metroid) havent had any installments on the DS...

( http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100568-Pokemon-HeartGold-SoulSilver-Sell-8-4-Million )

Hmm... Well, its good they dont have any exclusive titles. Like The World Ends with You, Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Dragon Quest, Mario and Luigi, those Brain Age games that are insanely popular with the elderly...

As for the Wii, do you have any actual proof to back up your claims? I would like to see the actual numbers of people who's ONLY reason to have their Wii is for homebrew. Because, God knows NO one could find ANY Wii game fun because you can't. And its not like some person flaming a company would COMPLETELY pull facts out of their ass. That would be silly.

Ignoring obvious troll now, NINTENDO. On that note, I'd have to say its a pretty valiant effort, but kinda wasted. If the Flashcarts can run their own firmware, a firmware update isn't going to do anything. Not to mention, the user doesnt HAVE to download the update. Personally, I dont play my DS Online anymore (my router wont allow me to and I lost my USB connector sadface single tear). While I dont pirate, if I did, what would be stopping me from just not using the online features?

While attempts to stop piracy, even if its only for a few weeks or so, is a reasonable thing to do. However, its also a waste of money when it turns rather futile in the end. Creative DRM is the way Nintendo (look at the dev who made that dating sim that made the girls reject you if you pirated it. Stuff like THIS is good).

If it helps stop piracy, i'm all for it. Though I would have prefered the update to make those flash cards explode, but ahh well I suppose this is more humane.

I do wonder though, how many people actually use the DSI or handhelds in general online, I don't know any personally.

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

It's one thing to pirate, that's not alright but it's understandable (I might have dabbled a bit in it) it's another thing to think you're entitled to it, or it's not wrong.

If you want to pirate, fine, I understand, but don't act like you deserve the games for free, because you don't

maybe if they'd put something nice in the update too...
i mean, i don't even have one of these flash cards, and i'm not going to update.
why do i want performance updates when all my games already run at a good framerate?

Piracy seems to be quite a problem with handhelds now. Flash Cards are everywhere and when you can download a game for free in half an hour with a good connection and virtually no repercussions I'm not surprised. I went into a computer shop looking for a new keyboard and saw a selection of Flash Cards sitting in a display case. I'm surprised that they had the guts to openly sell, now illegal, goods.

I haven't bought a PSP game since Vice City Stories however many years ago that was, but I still despair that a good console is being so badly hurt due to piracy.

Is this really that big of news? It's just an update to stop piracy. It's not a game-changer in the piracy wars.

Demon ID:
If it helps stop piracy, i'm all for it. Though I would have prefered the update to make those flash cards explode, but ahh well I suppose this is more humane.

Oh yeah, like that wouldn't be a PR nightmare. I don't care if they steal shit, blowing their hands off means you will never get the money out of them, and they will sue your ass for your unwarranted destruction of their property, (anything they might be close to), damage to their person, (I'm sure they didn't need their fingers) oh and let's not forget that doing that is most certainly vigilantism. Trust me, if they want to do anything, just let them make the 3DS sooner and maybe they could restrict sales of a flashcart for it before it hits shelves.
and before you go "chill it's a joke" no, it was stupid, and the many children I know (by children I mean kids about 10 to 12) who have flashcarts most certainly do not deserve to be harmed, even if they are technically "thieves".

I came expecting a thread full of people who were going to try and justify their piracy and I'm surprised at how even it is. Anything that's done to keep flashcards from working is a good thing to me, I have no doubt that it's not affecting Nintendo's own franchises that much but it's got to be hurting some of the better games on the format. Ya' know, the ones that supposed hardcore gamers want (Trauma Center before it went to the Wii, The World Ends With You, Dementium etc) that never sell because everyone's just 'trying them out' on their flashcards.

Ten minutes later: Homebrew community bypasses latest DSi Software Update.

So much for that, eh chaps? I bought the flash cards to play homebrew games on it, not to *ahem* "try them out."

As someone once said, "all pirates are just dissatisfied customers."

blakfayt:

Demon ID:
If it helps stop piracy, i'm all for it. Though I would have prefered the update to make those flash cards explode, but ahh well I suppose this is more humane.

Oh yeah, like that wouldn't be a PR nightmare. I don't care if they steal shit, blowing their hands off means you will never get the money out of them, and they will sue your ass for your unwarranted destruction of their property, (anything they might be close to), damage to their person, (I'm sure they didn't need their fingers) oh and let's not forget that doing that is most certainly vigilantism. Trust me, if they want to do anything, just let them make the 3DS sooner and maybe they could restrict sales of a flashcart for it before it hits shelves.
and before you go "chill it's a joke" no, it was stupid, and the many children I know (by children I mean kids about 10 to 12) who have flashcarts most certainly do not deserve to be harmed, even if they are technically "thieves".

But it was a joke, and I wholeheartedly believe your overeacting massively.

However that being said, If I offended you in anyway I do apologise as I didn't intend to and did mean it as a joke (something you yourself picked up on).

OT: Still, anything to curb piracy is a plus if this update does this good for nintendo, though I do still wonder how effective it will be, with a large majority of handheld gamers not really going online.

Onyx Oblivion:

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

You. Stop with the douchebaggery.

OT:

Well, you'd only have the download the update if you went online with it right?

And the DS' online really only used to play 3 games.

Pokemon, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Mariokart.

I do love me a good match of Hunters, though.

So, this really doesn't matter at all.

Actualy, the stuff he/she said about the Wii is sort of right, since it's why I soft-modded mine, can't beat a bit of Quake on there.

buy teh haloz:
Ten minutes later: Homebrew community bypasses latest DSi Software Update.

So much for that, eh chaps? I bought the flash cards to play homebrew games on it, not to *ahem* "try them out."

In fact, it's instant, as one card (which I won't name) has a built-in processor that can automatically bypass protection, which I have one of, but I have a DSLite anyway.

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

I think this post should better be interpreted that a price drop would convince more people to buy one. I can't help but feel he is right; there have been very few differences between the latest models of the DS, and there are few titles worth getting on both platforms. The 3DS will change that of course but right now the differences are pretty much moot. Maybe he didn't say it in the nicest possible way but perhaps people here should be more open-minded rather than quick to jump on the hate-wagon and assume he's a pirate.

OT: not much of a revelation since Nintendo has finally discovered firmware updates and with some luck in the future, normal maps and HD. Its inevitable that pirates will combat this update and then Nintendo update the firmware and so on.

Imo I feel it is better to entice than it is to threaten. Have no mercy on the people who sell or download excessively, sure, but for the guy with a 2.2mbps connection going to college, going RIAA on his ass might be a bit too harsh just because he wanted to play Puyo Pop or something. Steam sales work, so why not take inspiration from that? But I suppose companies do what they should do, and it makes sense to attempt to stop it.

Well that sucks. I really don't like how Nintendo is treating the homebrew community. There are a lot of quality homebrew applications out there for the DS that people have spent a lot of time on, and now Nintendo are shutting the whole community out. Note that I'm not talking about piracy, not at all, but rather indie devs who have created software in their own free time and released for free. Mostly people who just like to work on these kind of things, often open source communities, but also people who have simply been unable to use the official DS SDK, which Bob's Game is an example of.

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

Onyx Oblivion:

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

You. Stop with the douchebaggery.

OT:

Well, you'd only have the download the update if you went online with it right?

And the DS' online really only used to play 3 games.

Pokemon, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Mariokart.

I do love me a good match of Hunters, though.

So, this really doesn't matter at all.

we need more mods like you.

OT:I dont have a ds. but I want one. in piracy matters, pirates are thieves and should be punished. no questions.

I'll inform the 12 year olds that you want them in jail.

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

punished I said. not nessacarily jailed.

Demon ID:

blakfayt:

Demon ID:
If it helps stop piracy, i'm all for it. Though I would have prefered the update to make those flash cards explode, but ahh well I suppose this is more humane.

Oh yeah, like that wouldn't be a PR nightmare. I don't care if they steal shit, blowing their hands off means you will never get the money out of them, and they will sue your ass for your unwarranted destruction of their property, (anything they might be close to), damage to their person, (I'm sure they didn't need their fingers) oh and let's not forget that doing that is most certainly vigilantism. Trust me, if they want to do anything, just let them make the 3DS sooner and maybe they could restrict sales of a flashcart for it before it hits shelves.
and before you go "chill it's a joke" no, it was stupid, and the many children I know (by children I mean kids about 10 to 12) who have flashcarts most certainly do not deserve to be harmed, even if they are technically "thieves".

But it was a joke, and I wholeheartedly believe your overeacting massively.

However that being said, If I offended you in anyway I do apologise as I didn't intend to and did mean it as a joke (something you yourself picked up on).

OT: Still, anything to curb piracy is a plus if this update does this good for nintendo, though I do still wonder how effective it will be, with a large majority of handheld gamers not really going online.

Well, there are a lot of people who get stupidly angry over pirates and piracy, and to be honest I wish the escapist would just ban all piracy talk altogether.

Really though, this update will help until the beginning of next week at best, and pirates are a patient breed. I think it's pointless to keep trying to lock them out, they should be focused on the 3DS.

Battling piracy, yeah sure, a never ending battle that will never be settled. But it's war that makes progress right?

However, I dont see whats so bad with homebrew applications. Console developers are all about making their hardware as multiusable as possible. So why not let people mod it as long as they still buy official software legally?

EDIT:

I also agree with going with a steam sales model. I currently <3 steam for making things like xcom available AND PROVIDING AN EMULATOR WITH IT! No one else has done that before, thus enabling me to relive fun times in my childhood, albiet there are a few glitches like not being able to use alt or ctrl with the game (i can no longer use official cheat codes and have to use trainers:(

heavymedicombo:

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

Onyx Oblivion:

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

You. Stop with the douchebaggery.

OT:

Well, you'd only have the download the update if you went online with it right?

And the DS' online really only used to play 3 games.

Pokemon, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Mariokart.

I do love me a good match of Hunters, though.

So, this really doesn't matter at all.

we need more mods like you.

OT:I dont have a ds. but I want one. in piracy matters, pirates are thieves and should be punished. no questions.

I'll inform the 12 year olds that you want them in jail.

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

punished I said. not nessacarily jailed.

and how would you punish a 12 year old whose parents thought it was better to spend 30 dollars on something that can get new games without paying, or paying 30 dollars every time their kids want the new pokemon? Surely you wouldn't insist that these 40 year old people who don't even know how to use the internet properly should pay millions of dollars for a few "stolen" games? The whole piracy thing is always blown way the fuck out of proportion and if you jailed or financially bankrupted every person whose ever downloaded a song then I'm quite sure you would remove a few billion people from the potential earnings. Companies are stupid like that.

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

Onyx Oblivion:

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

You. Stop with the douchebaggery.

OT:

Well, you'd only have the download the update if you went online with it right?

And the DS' online really only used to play 3 games.

Pokemon, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Mariokart.

I do love me a good match of Hunters, though.

So, this really doesn't matter at all.

we need more mods like you.

OT:I dont have a ds. but I want one. in piracy matters, pirates are thieves and should be punished. no questions.

I'll inform the 12 year olds that you want them in jail.

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

punished I said. not nessacarily jailed.

and how would you punish a 12 year old whose parents thought it was better to spend 30 dollars on something that can get new games without paying, or paying 30 dollars every time their kids want the new pokemon? Surely you wouldn't insist that these 40 year old people who don't even know how to use the internet properly should pay millions of dollars for a few "stolen" games? The whole piracy thing is always blown way the fuck out of proportion and if you jailed or financially bankrupted every person whose ever downloaded a song then I'm quite sure you would remove a few billion people from the potential earnings. Companies are stupid like that.

to put it simply, piracy is theft. Thieves should be punished. I don care how but they should. My dad runs a small data based company for gps maps that he wrote. if they were pirated the company would be crushed. luckily they arent and it isnt. it doesnt matter what it is. piracy is taking something you dont deserve. which is a crime.

heavymedicombo:

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

Onyx Oblivion:

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

You. Stop with the douchebaggery.

OT:

Well, you'd only have the download the update if you went online with it right?

And the DS' online really only used to play 3 games.

Pokemon, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Mariokart.

I do love me a good match of Hunters, though.

So, this really doesn't matter at all.

we need more mods like you.

OT:I dont have a ds. but I want one. in piracy matters, pirates are thieves and should be punished. no questions.

I'll inform the 12 year olds that you want them in jail.

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

punished I said. not nessacarily jailed.

and how would you punish a 12 year old whose parents thought it was better to spend 30 dollars on something that can get new games without paying, or paying 30 dollars every time their kids want the new pokemon? Surely you wouldn't insist that these 40 year old people who don't even know how to use the internet properly should pay millions of dollars for a few "stolen" games? The whole piracy thing is always blown way the fuck out of proportion and if you jailed or financially bankrupted every person whose ever downloaded a song then I'm quite sure you would remove a few billion people from the potential earnings. Companies are stupid like that.

to put it simply, piracy is theft. Thieves should be punished. I don care how but they should. My dad runs a small data based company for gps maps that he wrote. if they were pirated the company would be crushed. luckily they arent and it isnt. it doesnt matter what it is. piracy is taking something you dont deserve. which is a crime.

But no one wants to steal maps, they want to "steal" entertainment, and there is no saying that they don't already own part of it, if I buy a CD then want to put the songs on my MP3 player I'd have to use torrent to get them, as my CD drive is shit and I refuse to support i anything. Also, let us not forget that most pirates will pay for what they have "stolen" assuming it was satisfactory. There were over a million downloads of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, did that stop it from selling millions of copies? No it didn't because people wanted it. Bottom line, in the entertainment industry I can only see piracy as an upside, it will help weed out the crap products and make way for the ones that are good. Also, High School of the Dead, a manga and anime from japan owes pirates for being released in english, as people scanned the manga, translated it and posted it on the internet for free viewing, another form of "piracy" or copyright infringement as it is truly named.

heavymedicombo:
to put it simply, piracy is theft. Thieves should be punished. I don care how but they should. My dad runs a small data based company for gps maps that he wrote. if they were pirated the company would be crushed. luckily they arent and it isnt. it doesnt matter what it is. piracy is taking something you dont deserve. which is a crime.

To put it simply you are utterly and completely wrong. For an act to be considered theft you have to deprive someone of something they own. Piracy is copyright infringement which, if done without a profit motive, is a civil tort and not a criminal offense (in the US anyway).

To educate yourself take a look at this handy guide:
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I am sure, for a while its going to discourage, but...they will work aroubnd, they always do - But, its the same as Sony idea - the war of the hacks, so it seems

Another battle against piracy... I see no end to it...

blakfayt:

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

The above analogy makes it so... However, I have an idea for an anti-piracy system... Still writing design documents... :D

I have mixed feelings about piracy, but I never felt sorry for Nintendos latest consoles, why you ask? We live in a world where some shovelware garbage title can stay full priced over a genuinely well crafted and original game, it's misleading bullshit, as someone already mentioned people often buy the games for real anyway in the end. Can you honestly blame people doing it when you can fit 60+ games on 1 card? Saves a LOT of space before you even get into the money issue, if anything nintendo are a little old fashioned here and they should look into this more to make their own legit downloading system perhaps.

Also this:

blakfayt:

Really though, this update will help until the beginning of next week at best, and pirates are a patient breed. I think it's pointless to keep trying to lock them out, they should be focused on the 3DS.

z3rostr1fe:
Another battle against piracy... I see no end to it...

blakfayt:

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

The above analogy makes it so... However, I have an idea for an anti-piracy system... Still writing design documents... :D

Three weeks ago I came up with an idea that nintendo could use to support homebrew files (eliminating folks who want to use it for purely legal reasons) and would encourage people to pay for games again, basically I thought they should copy (not completely) the flashcart, then sell it as an official product of nintendo and do a digital download system using the internet, you pay for the games information (which is encoded with your own special code so that others can't use it, as you must make an account with the nintendo approved site) and you download it and it goes onto the device like a regular flashcart would. This would rule out the production costs for physical copies, allowing the game to be sold for less, and then nintendo keeps track of all you purchases so you can simply redownload them if you decide you are done, or for what ever reason needed, then it surpasses the physical copy, and circumvents used game sales. Plus with the new design of the DSTwo they could sell GBA games for really cheap and make money off old games and all they need is the information (which is all over the net in the form of torrents) I've also thought through every possible problem, most can be dealt with, some can't but that's life.

rembrandtqeinstein:

heavymedicombo:
to put it simply, piracy is theft. Thieves should be punished. I don care how but they should. My dad runs a small data based company for gps maps that he wrote. if they were pirated the company would be crushed. luckily they arent and it isnt. it doesnt matter what it is. piracy is taking something you dont deserve. which is a crime.

To put it simply you are utterly and completely wrong. For an act to be considered theft you have to deprive someone of something they own. Piracy is copyright infringement which, if done without a profit motive, is a civil tort and not a criminal offense (in the US anyway).

To educate yourself take a look at this handy guide:
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If you read the fucking post you would see that I have a personel stake with piracy. I see it as theft because the people taking this stuff may have bought it if a pirated version was not availible. Doing this takes away from company revenue and causes a worse gaming industry.

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

blakfayt:

heavymedicombo:

Onyx Oblivion:

Motakikurushi:
Yes, because we can't possibly have a price-drop on the most successful handheld console of all time, which continues to rake in money despite the same design being re-released 3 times with no significant changes to the quality of the console itself and very few decent exclusives being released at all. I've also noticed that a huge majority of homebrew users resort to hacking their Wii because it's so utterly boring and terrible they need to find some way of making it useful, and it provides a small incentive for their nintendo consoles to still exist.

You. Stop with the douchebaggery.

OT:

Well, you'd only have the download the update if you went online with it right?

And the DS' online really only used to play 3 games.

Pokemon, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Mariokart.

I do love me a good match of Hunters, though.

So, this really doesn't matter at all.

we need more mods like you.

OT:I dont have a ds. but I want one. in piracy matters, pirates are thieves and should be punished. no questions.

I'll inform the 12 year olds that you want them in jail.

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

punished I said. not nessacarily jailed.

and how would you punish a 12 year old whose parents thought it was better to spend 30 dollars on something that can get new games without paying, or paying 30 dollars every time their kids want the new pokemon? Surely you wouldn't insist that these 40 year old people who don't even know how to use the internet properly should pay millions of dollars for a few "stolen" games? The whole piracy thing is always blown way the fuck out of proportion and if you jailed or financially bankrupted every person whose ever downloaded a song then I'm quite sure you would remove a few billion people from the potential earnings. Companies are stupid like that.

to put it simply, piracy is theft. Thieves should be punished. I don care how but they should. My dad runs a small data based company for gps maps that he wrote. if they were pirated the company would be crushed. luckily they arent and it isnt. it doesnt matter what it is. piracy is taking something you dont deserve. which is a crime.

But no one wants to steal maps, they want to "steal" entertainment, and there is no saying that they don't already own part of it, if I buy a CD then want to put the songs on my MP3 player I'd have to use torrent to get them, as my CD drive is shit and I refuse to support i anything. Also, let us not forget that most pirates will pay for what they have "stolen" assuming it was satisfactory. There were over a million downloads of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, did that stop it from selling millions of copies? No it didn't because people wanted it. Bottom line, in the entertainment industry I can only see piracy as an upside, it will help weed out the crap products and make way for the ones that are good. Also, High School of the Dead, a manga and anime from japan owes pirates for being released in english, as people scanned the manga, translated it and posted it on the internet for free viewing, another form of "piracy" or copyright infringement as it is truly named.

If you think piracy doesnt include non-entertaing products you are pretty fuckin stupid. I dont see why the escapist lets these obvious pirates get away with this shit. even if they dont get caught by the law (depending what country they live in) you can at least punish them by banning them.

blakfayt:

z3rostr1fe:
Another battle against piracy... I see no end to it...

blakfayt:

OT: yeah, this will take about, I'd say another day to crack, it's pointless to lock the door when the thief has a lock picking kit, and knows how to use it.

The above analogy makes it so... However, I have an idea for an anti-piracy system... Still writing design documents... :D

Three weeks ago I came up with an idea that nintendo could use to support homebrew files (eliminating folks who want to use it for purely legal reasons) and would encourage people to pay for games again, basically I thought they should copy (not completely) the flashcart, then sell it as an official product of nintendo and do a digital download system using the internet, you pay for the games information (which is encoded with your own special code so that others can't use it, as you must make an account with the nintendo approved site) and you download it and it goes onto the device like a regular flashcart would. This would rule out the production costs for physical copies, allowing the game to be sold for less, and then nintendo keeps track of all you purchases so you can simply redownload them if you decide you are done, or for what ever reason needed, then it surpasses the physical copy, and circumvents used game sales. Plus with the new design of the DSTwo they could sell GBA games for really cheap and make money off old games and all they need is the information (which is all over the net in the form of torrents) I've also thought through every possible problem, most can be dealt with, some can't but that's life.

I do suggest that they do it the Valve way... O_O

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