Blizzard Explains Tough Decisions Behind StarCraft II Trilogy

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Blizzard Explains Tough Decisions Behind StarCraft II Trilogy

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The StarCraft II trilogy was developed to add more fun to the game, not for profit, according to Blizzard.

When Blizzard first announced that StarCraft II was going to be divided into three games, each with a campaign focusing on a single race, fans took it to mean that they were going to have to pay three times for a single game. In a recent interview with Game Informer, StarCraft II lead designer Dustin Browder details Blizzard's thought process behind the division, and assures gamers that they're better off with a trilogy than a single title.

Browder revealed that Blizzard decided to divide StarCraft II into three parts in the "middle of development," and that it "was not the opening move." As Blizzard kept wanting to add more and more depth to StarCraft II, creating one game simply wasn't an option.

"At one point we had 17 or 18 missions per campaign, so we were looking at making 50-some missions," Browder said. "Even then, they didn't have a lot of choice and options in them. The critical path was still fairly linear, and we wanted more missions than that."

For Blizzard to put out the product of the quality it wanted, more content was necessary, but that would have been setting Blizzard up for "a 10 or 12-year development cycle." After what Browder calls "hard talks" and "the screaming and throwing of things," the decision to create a trilogy was made.

Browder admits: "It still took us forever," and though he believes fans are getting plenty of value out of the StarCraft II games, he does feel for the fans that only have interest in the Zerg and Protoss campaigns that'll have to wait. Still, he reveals: "We were looking at maybe a 12-mission campaign for each race ... [that] wasn't going to be as fun." And we may be getting even more content in StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm - the upcoming Zerg-focused title - than there was in Wings of Liberty, with Browder saying it'll possibly have "a larger campaign, with more details on Kerrigan, [and] a more in-depth look at what it means to be a Zerg."

Sounds good to me. So can we please all stop saying that we're paying three times for one game now?

Source: Game Informer

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Yes, yes we can all stop saying that. RIGHT?
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They explained all that at the time they originally announced it. It didn't stop people saying it then, so I doubt it will now.

Still sounds like buying three games to me. Do I have to go pay $40-60 for each one? then I'm buying three games. If they make them as Expansion packs and charge $20-30 for each... well thats not so bad.

Translation:
We want lots of money and we know you'll pay it.

tomtom94:
Translation:
We want lots of money and we know you'll pay it.

This is the only logical answer.

In other words, Starcraft 2 was split in to multiple parts when Activision came in to the picture.

These people may stop at the point at they have played Heart of the Swam (since pretty much all sc players will buy it). If it actually is as big as Blizzard says, then they should be happy and they might just shut up on the topic. And continue ranting on the Protoss game. It might be smaller.

Sorry, the truth must be told.

"OH WE JUST CAN'T MAKE A SINGLE COMPLETELY AWESOME GAME!! WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO MAKE THREE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS AWESOME GAMES!!"

Complete, utter, bullshit. Everything wrong with the industry.

I personally felt like I was playing a fully-fledged game with Wings of Liberty. I've gotten plenty of play timeout of the campaign and challenges, and I'm still working on them. I'm sure Heart of the Swarm and Loins of the Protoss (I don't know the actual title for that one) will have larger campaigns and mre challenge missions to make up for the fact that the multiplayer already came with Wings.

Wings of Liberty had as many missions as the original StarCraft, so I don't see the problem.

Maze1125:
They explained all that at the time they originally announced it. It didn't stop people saying it then, so I doubt it will now.

exactly, move along nothing new to read here. I'm still calling BS, no matter how many times they try to throw this out. We still have to pay for each game, which boils down to having to pay thrice for the whole experience, considering that the stories are linked.

I think it would be unfair for us to expect 3 fully fleshed out games(which is what they are hoping to deliver, apparently) for the price of one.

Quite frankly, I think a lot of people are overreacting about this.

You don't have to buy the other games, either.

It's funny, all the talk about Zerg and Protoss players getting the short end of the stick just isn't true.. TERRAN players will be getting the short end of the stick in the end.. All the innovations that come out of the Terran Pack and influence innovations in the later Packs won't be retroactively added to the Terran Pack.. by the time we get "Life for Aiur" or whatever the Protoss one is called, the Terran Pack may actually need a facelift that it will never get..

I'm not saying that it's not worth the money, but you can't seriously argue it's a complete story. It's about as far from it as it can be, but I can respect the game for at least not pretending otherwise. I am so fucking sick of cliffhanger endings that get filled later with DLC or sequels. At least with Starcraft 2 I knew it was coming.

I'll be happy as long the expansion packs are reasonably priced. Only then.

considering WoL was indeed a full and satisfying game it really doesn't bother me much. really its like bitching that Ubisoft should make all the AC games in 1 instead of making all the sequels.

and its a good game so really so long as they don't cop out people should support it.

It's always up to the consumer whether or not they want to purchase a game; it's always their choice.
If you don't like what a company is doing with their product, and you know they aren't going to budge on the issue, for fuck's sake don't keep bitching about it well after the fact, just DO NOT BUY THEIR PRODUCT.

What is so fucking hard about this? Honestly. People piss and moan about what's happening to "their game" for months on end, how it's going to ruin the experience etc, AND THEN THEY GO OUT AND BUY IT ANYWAY.
That isn't mere Hypocrisy, it's fucking lunacy.

no point in this. There is nothing they can say to make people stop what they think.

personally 30 missions is a full game to me. The first game only had 30. So to expect this one to have 90 is unfair of people. then again I play primarily for single player, I guess people who only play for multi-player may think otherwise.

Translation: "We wanted to provide as little content as possible for the most money. Our mountain of cash just isn't big enough"

Screw blizzard, they're part of Activision now. They aren't worth supporting. And bobby is the person that made them split the game into 3 seperate titles because he's on the record as stating that he won't take on an IP that he can't milk with massive DLC and a sequel every year. Its why they dropped the ghostbusters game.

Yeah guys Activision didn't change anything!

If they are released as expansion packs at a lower price range I wouldn't say that is too bad...if it adds more options to the entire game.

If they are released as full games and are required to make custom maps and play as the other races online...then that is crazy.

Right now you can play the other races in multiplayer so really it's only the single player campaign that is missing the other races. That blows a bit but it's not a huge deal and I can understand that they want to release the other single player campaigns by themselves (so they have time to fully create them).

If you have to buy the game 3 times to fully play multiplayer and have full use of the other races though that will be a rip off. That is of course where most of the meat of the game exists in starcraft...there is only so many times you can play single player campaigns....eventually you go online and play custom maps and with other players.

If you have to pay for the game 3 times to do that...it's a rip off. If you don't care about the single player campaigns but can still get the full content for multiplayer etc as a cheap upgrade/download or something then that will be fine.

If they are saying you need to pay for the game 3 times though just because they need to spend extra time making single player maps...that is just rediculous in my opinion.

Oh please. What a lame excuse. They are money grubbers and nothing more.

Altorin:
It's funny, all the talk about Zerg and Protoss players getting the short end of the stick just isn't true.. TERRAN players will be getting the short end of the stick in the end.. All the innovations that come out of the Terran Pack and influence innovations in the later Packs won't be retroactively added to the Terran Pack.. by the time we get "Life for Aiur" or whatever the Protoss one is called, the Terran Pack may actually need a facelift that it will never get..

not necessarily, considering all the protoss players(like me) got to have a mission pack of protoss missions in WoL (mainly BECAUSE legacy of the void will be the last installment), its not unreasonable for a few Terran missions to be in the last expansion. not to mention that since its the finale Terran Protoss and Zerg will have to be all involved some how.

I've never really played much Starcraft, but I liek the idea of having such long campaigns. Loads of strategy games have too short campaigns so the war they're attempting to portray doesn't feel as serious and important. It's as if WW2 was about 3 months long.

wow, there's a lot of intentional or unintentional trolling here. I'm not going to feed it any further, but damn. I thought we were better then this.

Maze1125:
They explained all that at the time they originally announced it. It didn't stop people saying it then, so I doubt it will now.

100 points to the winner.

They said it right at announcement, it makes a lot of sense and... it doesn't matter for the pathetic whiners.

Because pathetic whiners whine pathetically, as you can see in this thread :)
After all Blizzard is all bad and evil and greedy and and and. You get my point.

Edit:
Even every review out there says how fucking much content there is in Starcraft 2. And I mean, there is a fucking lot. Huge campaign with a LOT cutscenes (~34mins in-engine, 14mins pre-rendered CGI), huge multiplayer part with ladder, matchmaking, oh an challenges, a tons of achievements and rewards in form of portraits and decals oh and please don't forget the map editor which is bigger than people may think (See what can be done).

But hey.. as I said, pathetic whiners...

Tom Goldman:
Sounds good to me. So can we please all stop saying that we're paying three times for one game now?

But that's exactly what you have to do xD
Also can't wait for the announcement that those are full-priced because they are "technically a new game" :P

wulfy42:
If they are released as expansion packs at a lower price range I wouldn't say that is too bad...if it adds more options to the entire game.

If they are released as full games and are required to make custom maps and play as the other races online...then that is crazy.

Right now you can play the other races in multiplayer so really it's only the single player campaign that is missing the other races. That blows a bit but it's not a huge deal and I can understand that they want to release the other single player campaigns by themselves (so they have time to fully create them).

If you have to buy the game 3 times to fully play multiplayer and have full use of the other races though that will be a rip off. That is of course where most of the meat of the game exists in starcraft...there is only so many times you can play single player campaigns....eventually you go online and play custom maps and with other players.

I doubt the "sequels" will be priced as expansion packs and they already said that they will contain new units and buildings and stuff for multiplayer, so you will most definitely have to buy em for the new stuff. You will probably still be able to play the old version if you don't though...but the biggest part of the player and especially the "competitive" ones will certainly move on.

Altorin:
wow, there's a lot of intentional or unintentional trolling here. I'm not going to feed it any further, but damn. I thought we were better then this.

Yup, cause it's called trolling if you don't buy marketing bullcrap from the guys trying to sell it to you and act all apologetic, right... right?

JediMB:
Wings of Liberty had as many missions as the original StarCraft, so I don't see the problem.

Pretty much that right there. I dont mind shelling out the extra couple bucks for more awesome.

Eric the Orange:
no point in this. There is nothing they can say to make people stop what they think.

personally 30 missions is a full game to me. The first game only had 30. So to expect this one to have 90 is unfair of people. then again I play primarily for single player, I guess people who only play for multi-player may think otherwise.

Considering the eleven years between broodwars and starcraft 2, I'm pretty sure it'd be perfectly reasonable to expect something in the realm of 347 campaign missions in a single game.

I mean, it used to be if something took eleven years to make, there was an actual fucking reason beyond, "couldn't be arsed."

I mean, I do understand how people who could barely talk eleven years ago wouldn't be too bothered by this. They've been willingly taking it up the ass their entire lives.

Tom Goldman:
Sounds good to me. So can we please all stop saying that we're paying three times for one game now?

No. I will belive Im getting a "full" and proper game when I see it.

Altorin:
wow, there's a lot of intentional or unintentional trolling here. I'm not going to feed it any further, but damn. I thought we were better then this.

By definition, trolling cannot be unintentional.

Just because its pissing you off, doesn't mean its trolling.

SirBryghtside:
And have it end up like Duke Nukem? No thanks.

It makes perfect sense what they're saying. They released the game in 3 parts would have taken bloody ages, when you're buying for the same price. Finally, they ARE full games. The original Starcraft had 30 missions too. They're saying the next one will have more.

No one complained about Brood War. It's exactly the same thing.

... uh, hun, duke nukem forever and 3D realms was crushed under the weight of it's own incompetence. They wanted to make the best game ever, but they simply lacked the talent or ability to do anything but copy whatever the most successful game of the year was doing. Which meant they jumped from engine to engine, from perspective to perspective, from gametype to gametype almost completely randomly. Then, at the end, when 3D realms went bankrupt, only had twelve half-finished levels to show for it.

Also, no one complained about broodwars because it was $20 new. Heart of the swarm and [the third one] will operate like expansion packs, but will cost, at least, $59.99. Bullshit.

SirBryghtside:

Cynical skeptic:

I mean, it used to be if something took eleven years to make, there was an actual fucking reason beyond, "couldn't be arsed."

Or maybe they weren't making Starcraft 2 non-stop since 1999? Just a thought.

... yea... moving along...

I'm sorry Tom. You tried. But the failboys, they know no logic.*patpat*

NOW RELEASE SWARM DAMNIT!

Everyone seems so negative. After playing starcraft 2 me and my buddies cant wait for the expansions. More of a good thing is defiantly worth paying for ;-)

eleven years + 3-4 more years doesn't make any difference, they could've brought the game out in full.

but seeing as we are talking business here, I guess it didn't seem feasible. lets say that there was an approx amount of 32GBs of data in total, bringing it out in one package would've made it seem to be more expensive (quality/quantity:cost ratio)and thus it will be taking risks (as we know they don't like taking risks) Also cutting the game down into parts easily tricks the idiots.

Ah bli$$ard and activ$ion, you never cease to show your greed

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