Rumor: Leaked 3DS Hardware Specs Prove Its Power

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Not even going to pretend to know what all that means... I'll just have a cautious guess and say it's good for a portable...

Thomas Guy:
3DS, CAN'T WAIT. Why wait for the new PSP? Excited for their fantastic line up of games? The PSP had possibly a grand total of 5 games worth playing. Not really worth buying but worth playing.

Guessing a Nintendo fanboy... Can we not pull one console down just to big up another.

Christ how moronic are most of you people. This isnt a PC or a multimedia smartphone, its a Nintendo handheld. The hardware will be optimised for the games and nothing else. iPhone 4 has to run iOS and act as a multimedia device before it even contemplates running games. Very similar could be said of psp and future variants. The technical specs are therefore irrelevant to compare because what the devices are actually designed to do is so different from the earliest stage of development. Wake up, its Nintendo and its the newest innovation in the handheld line, theres about a less than 0% chance of this failing. Well thats what Ziggy says anyway

I have no ides how to read these. So I will assume that this is good. For a handheld at least.

At those specs if the 3ds doesn't have good battery life I'll laugh at nintendo's meager tech department.

Ayjona:

Tom Goldman:
The 3DS's processors appear to put it close to the iPhone, which runs on a single 412MHz ARM11, but the 3DS can unleash dual cores on games without having to worry about running an operating system in the background.

That was the first-gen iPhone, from 2007. Rather sad comparison. And curious. Would not comparing the 3DS to contemporary devices be more telling?

The current iPhone model runs an ARM Cortex-A8 Apple A4, at 800 MHz - 1 GHz. The 512 mb is another point where the iPhone 4 has drastically different specs to the 3DS.

Of course, the graphics chip, buses and less apparent specs are probably just as important in determining the 3DS' performance. Let's hope they are not as outdated as the processor and memory specs.

Did you miss the part about the dual core processor?
Coding for multi-core systems is a pain in the ass, but if the software is designed properly, a dual core system runs about 90% faster than a single core one of the same clock speed.
(of course, if coded badly, it can run worse. - double edged sword really.)

Granted, it's only 266 mhz, so ideal case it'd be about the equivalent of a 500 mhz processor or so.

However, the reality is, clock speeds and battery life are closely related...
Raise the clock speed, and you drastically increase the power requirements.
Tell me, how long does a current generation Iphone's battery last when doing demanding 3D graphics?

This has often been a fatal weakness of Nintendo's handheld competitors, so I suspect they're keen to avoid copying their competitor's mistakes...

But yeah, the stats don't sound the best on paper, but a lot depends on the way a device is used.

After all, a typical gaming PC will murder a console in terms of specs, yet you can't necessarily say the apparent performance difference reflects the difference in stats.

Wow next gen smart phones blow this thing away, when you have 1ghz dual core processors (orion) super amoled displays, and at least 512 ram. O well its better than nothing, and the 3d looks pretty cool.

This handheld is more powerful than my computer.

I don't know what to say.

lacktheknack:
Wow, it's like an early century budget desktop.

Technically, it is early century and I still look forward to it.

Jeronus:

lacktheknack:
Wow, it's like an early century budget desktop.

Technically, it is early century and I still look forward to it.

I'll give you that.

I meant "2000-2003" time gap.

Sounds pretty cool, to bad they are wasting the tech on remaking crappy, overrated N64 games (Ocarina of time blows)

-Seraph-:

Gigaguy64:

-Seraph-:

Gigaguy64:
Im not tech wizard.
And a lot of that is still confusing to me.
But just comparing the 3DS's Specs to the Older DS's makes me a Excited boy.

Well from what I can gather, it looks like it'll be around the same power of a PSP/PS2, MAYBE close enough to Gamecube if they know how to work the hardware. All you really need to know if that it curb stomps the current DS so expect some pretty games on the go.

That's interesting, there were a lot of good looking games on the Ps2, and the PSP has some amazing looking games as well.
Really Graphics are great but for me i want it to have enough processing power to play faster and more complex games.
Iv got jump Ultimate Stars and even on my DSi there are still points when there is so many things happening on screen it starts to slow down.
So with this DS, Fast Paced Fighting games would be an excellent Idea.
Especially 2D Fighters, already the DS has some Beautiful Sprite based games.
And it even has some great 3d games like Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.
The Cutscenes look AMAZING and the normal Animation you see and Play looks really good too.
Im expecting some cool things from the 3DS.

The PSP is pretty kick ass when it comes to fighters dude, and they look oh so pretty. So if these specs are the real deal, I have no doubt you'll see some pretty looking fighting games. I'm sure Street Fighter will look excellent as it's art style is not too hard to emulate with lower end tech. With the processing power this thing has, don't except any real noticable slow down from 2D games. I played Guilty gear and Blazblue PSP all the time and those things run as well as their console borthers.

Yea, a buddy of mine has GG judgment on his PSP and its a lot of fun.

Man i need a better job....there is no way that ill be able to get this if it comes out this year...

gregitaly:
Sounds pretty cool, to bad they are wasting the tech on remaking crappy, overrated N64 games (Ocarina of time blows)

Ocarina of Time blows


Ummmm, ok.
What didn't you like about it?

And they arnt just remaking 64 Games.
Did you not see the Resident Evil vid?
Or that entire list of Games to expect?

-Seraph-:

mad825:
*sigh*

I'm still waiting for those battery specs.......

If those tech specs are real, I'm sure the battery life will not be all that much different from the current DS. May be a little less due to the dual processing, but it'll probably still pump out a reasonable amount of hours.

if nintendo's hand helds are known for anything its battery live, none of nintendo's competitors has been able to outlast any of the gameboys or ds's

Sovvolf:
Not even going to pretend to know what all that means... I'll just have a cautious guess and say it's good for a portable...

Thomas Guy:
3DS, CAN'T WAIT. Why wait for the new PSP? Excited for their fantastic line up of games? The PSP had possibly a grand total of 5 games worth playing. Not really worth buying but worth playing.

Guessing a Nintendo fanboy... Can we not pull one console down just to big up another.

yeah the psp had more like.... 7, 7 games worth playing, yeah thats about right

I personally don't care for the specs. It's the games that matter. Still pretty impressive stuff though.

Worgen:

Sovvolf:
Not even going to pretend to know what all that means... I'll just have a cautious guess and say it's good for a portable...

Thomas Guy:
3DS, CAN'T WAIT. Why wait for the new PSP? Excited for their fantastic line up of games? The PSP had possibly a grand total of 5 games worth playing. Not really worth buying but worth playing.

Guessing a Nintendo fanboy... Can we not pull one console down just to big up another.

yeah the psp had more like.... 7, 7 games worth playing, yeah thats about right

Maybe, maybe not. I don't know... I didn't own a PSP long before it was broken and I haven't yet went and replaced it. So I don't know what games aren't and what games are good. However, as said before. Lets not pull one console down in order to big up the other. This often starts a console war (which no one wants).

Sovvolf:

Worgen:

Sovvolf:
Not even going to pretend to know what all that means... I'll just have a cautious guess and say it's good for a portable...

Thomas Guy:
3DS, CAN'T WAIT. Why wait for the new PSP? Excited for their fantastic line up of games? The PSP had possibly a grand total of 5 games worth playing. Not really worth buying but worth playing.

Guessing a Nintendo fanboy... Can we not pull one console down just to big up another.

yeah the psp had more like.... 7, 7 games worth playing, yeah thats about right

Maybe, maybe not. I don't know... I didn't own a PSP long before it was broken and I haven't yet went and replaced it. So I don't know what games aren't and what games are good. However, as said before. Lets not pull one console down in order to big up the other. This often starts a console war (which no one wants).

I do own one, Im glad mine hasnt busted since I doubt I would ever care enough to replace it, Id trade it in but there are a few games exclusive to it that I love, rtype command, prinny can I really be the hero, pursuit force, and dissidia

Worgen:

Sovvolf:

Worgen:

Sovvolf:
Not even going to pretend to know what all that means... I'll just have a cautious guess and say it's good for a portable...

Thomas Guy:
3DS, CAN'T WAIT. Why wait for the new PSP? Excited for their fantastic line up of games? The PSP had possibly a grand total of 5 games worth playing. Not really worth buying but worth playing.

Guessing a Nintendo fanboy... Can we not pull one console down just to big up another.

yeah the psp had more like.... 7, 7 games worth playing, yeah thats about right

Maybe, maybe not. I don't know... I didn't own a PSP long before it was broken and I haven't yet went and replaced it. So I don't know what games aren't and what games are good. However, as said before. Lets not pull one console down in order to big up the other. This often starts a console war (which no one wants).

I do own one, Im glad mine hasnt busted since I doubt I would ever care enough to replace it, Id trade it in but there are a few games exclusive to it that I love, rtype command, prinny can I really be the hero, pursuit force, and dissidia

When I had it... I just had Crisis Core and a really bad Scarface game so I can't really judge on what is or isn't good. Was going to replace the damned thing but I simply don't have the money at the moment and I don't often use portable consoles when I do have them.

I have NO idea what any of this means. I'm more of a "software-over-hardware" person anyway, so these specs could be awesome or crap. Judging on the games I've seen for it, I can't wait for the 3DS. (I still hate 3D, though...)

All the numbers are well and good, but history has taught me all what developers do with it. I remember being told the Atari Jaguar had 64 bits! Still didn't hold a candle to the 16 bit systems.

Kid Icarus looked good on this, and hoping still place for pretty 2D games (Castlevania please).

This just popped in my mind: I would LOVE to see Portal on the 3DS.

or maybe Ill wait till the 3ds lite or the 3ds micro or the 3ds XL or the 3dsi// would you please stop fucking one upping your own shit god damnit.

-Seraph-:

mad825:
*sigh*

I'm still waiting for those battery specs.......

If those tech specs are real, I'm sure the battery life will not be all that much different from the current DS. May be a little less due to the dual processing, but it'll probably still pump out a reasonable amount of hours.

I don't know how specs translate to battery usage but I know one thing: Nintendo handhelds have always had great battery life. I doubt this will be much different.

If it sucks...adapters and rechargables are your friends.

The "conservative hardware" specs look pretty damn good for a handheld.
Keeping in mind that this is a device made specifically for portable gaming; it has to have minimal heat output and a decent battery life.

Brotherofwill:

-Seraph-:

mad825:
*sigh*

I'm still waiting for those battery specs.......

If those tech specs are real, I'm sure the battery life will not be all that much different from the current DS. May be a little less due to the dual processing, but it'll probably still pump out a reasonable amount of hours.

I don't know how specs translate to battery usage but I know one thing: Nintendo handhelds have always had great battery life. I doubt this will be much different.

If it sucks...adapters and rechargables are your friends.

Normally it's the processor that can kill the battery. The more of it that's used or taxed, the more power it consumes. Although I am going to assume some games won't use full processor power all the time and be caped at an optimum limit.

Also how much you use the 3D of the device will determine how long the battery lasts on a single charge. If you always got the 3D going, it's goign to have less battery life than when it's off.

The thing has two processors so that is rather concerning when it comes to battery life. Both processors work together to render the image twice to produce that 3D effect. So I'm guessing witht he 3D on all the way for a full charge it'll probably cut the battery life by 1/3 or 1/4 or something.

Well that's my assumption on the matter.

-Seraph-:

Normally it's the processor that can kill the battery. The more of it that's used or taxed, the more power it consumes. Although I am going to assume some games won't use full processor power all the time and be caped at an optimum limit.

Also how much you use the 3D of the device will determine how long the battery lasts on a single charge. If you always got the 3D going, it's goign to have less battery life than when it's off.

The thing has two processors so that is rather concerning when it comes to battery life. Both processors work together to render the image twice to produce that 3D effect. So I'm guessing witht he 3D on all the way for a full charge it'll probably cut the battery life by 1/3 or 1/4 or something.

3D slider...how times have changed. I remember abusing the volume dial on the original grey block to save battery and struggling for hours with the gradually fading red light and silently praying everytime I saved while my power was low and the game asked me to not switch off the Gamebo...whoa ehrmmm....nostalgia flash.

Ok, I get what you mean, the 3D will be heavier on the batteries. Makes sense, altough I have no idea where you arrived at 1/3 or 1/4 (which would be pretty detrimetal). Fancy 3D visual come at a fancy battery price I guess. I'm sure Nintendo will figure something out.

Brotherofwill:

Ok, I get what you mean, the 3D will be heavier on the batteries. Makes sense, altough I have no idea where you arrived at 1/3 or 1/4 (which would be pretty detrimetal). Fancy 3D visual come at a fancy battery price I guess. I'm sure Nintendo will figure something out.

Oh the battery life being shortened by 1/4-1/3 was just my best guess considering the thing would be running TWO processors at the same time which is not that very energy efficient I'd assume. I'm sure it'll still have a decent battery life, but don't expect that fancy 3D to not have some short comings when it comes to the systems performance.

As long as it has respectable battery life, can handle running games smoothly and has a library to back it up, I don't care. The DS games now look fine to me and the 3DS can only improve from it, so it can't look terrible.

It's a hand-held with a small screen where the level of detail seen from a PS3/PC/Xbox title frankly doesn't matter.

gregitaly:
Sounds pretty cool, to bad they are wasting the tech on remaking crappy, overrated N64 games (Ocarina of time blows)

It's dangerous to go alone! Take this! *hands flame shield*

OT: The fact the 3ds has weak specs compared to some of the devices now I see as a good thing because it'll bring the price down when it releases. In any case I'll be reserving this thing as soon as I am able to because chances are they will sell out very fast. It'll be the Wii fiasco all over again.

CrystalShadow:
Did you miss the part about the dual core processor?
Coding for multi-core systems is a pain in the ass, but if the software is designed properly, a dual core system runs about 90% faster than a single core one of the same clock speed.
(of course, if coded badly, it can run worse. - double edged sword really.)

Granted, it's only 266 mhz, so ideal case it'd be about the equivalent of a 500 mhz processor or so.

However, the reality is, clock speeds and battery life are closely related...
Raise the clock speed, and you drastically increase the power requirements.
Tell me, how long does a current generation Iphone's battery last when doing demanding 3D graphics?

This has often been a fatal weakness of Nintendo's handheld competitors, so I suspect they're keen to avoid copying their competitor's mistakes...

But yeah, the stats don't sound the best on paper, but a lot depends on the way a device is used.

After all, a typical gaming PC will murder a console in terms of specs, yet you can't necessarily say the apparent performance difference reflects the difference in stats.

No, I didn't care about the dual core processor. My point was that a comparison to a 2007 device is peculiar, and puts the 3DS in a bad light. The dual processor does not factor into that conveyance. (Although I must say that an ideal case of 500 MHz still sounds rather lacking to me, since both iPhones, WM7 and Android devices come with processors close to or at 1 GHz these days.)

As for battery life, I'd take power over longevity any day, since opportunities abound to charge whatever handheld device I choose to bring with me.

And I must say that most of the time, the apparent difference between console games and their PC counterparts seems to reflect the difference in specs rather acutely. I've yet to see a console game that can come close to the same title run on a gaming PC.

But yes, I fully expect the 3DS to outperform its' own tech specs, so I do agree with you in that regard. If only Nintendo and Sony could realize that proper online gaming requires a constant internet connection. This is the stopper that makes me default to the Android and iOS platforms for all my gaming needs. Being able to just pick up my smartphone and play an adventure in an MMO with a few friends/execute a few moves or commands in an asynchronous strategy game against a pal/go head to head with people from all over the world in an action game/purchase a new title directly from my device and start playing within a few minutes is more fun and rewarding than any disconnected single player game, and a trend that is growing, avalanche-style. Strange that the (previously) dominant makers of handhelds completely fail to appraise the appeal of this element...

Tom Goldman:
...RAM in the current DS with a total of 64MB...

I honestly misread that as 64GB of ram. I thought the universe had gone crazy while I was on vacation.

Damn lysdexia messin' up mah readan.

I've gotta say, I really have no idea what any of this means. But I don't care!!!

Oh my. Thats quite some power for the lil device. Heh, Nice leak!

XT inc:
or maybe Ill wait till the 3ds lite or the 3ds micro or the 3ds XL or the 3dsi// would you please stop fucking one upping your own shit god damnit.

thats Nintendo humor for you. one-upping. haha.
...
*cries*

Ayjona:

Tom Goldman:
The 3DS's processors appear to put it close to the iPhone, which runs on a single 412MHz ARM11, but the 3DS can unleash dual cores on games without having to worry about running an operating system in the background.

That was the first-gen iPhone, from 2007. Rather sad comparison. And curious. Would not comparing the 3DS to contemporary devices be more telling?

The current iPhone model runs an ARM Cortex-A8 Apple A4, at 800 MHz - 1 GHz. The 512 mb is another point where the iPhone 4 has drastically different specs to the 3DS.

Of course, the graphics chip, buses and less apparent specs are probably just as important in determining the 3DS' performance. Let's hope they are not as outdated as the processor and memory specs.

Comparing those specs is hardly fair though.
How much is an Iphone 4 when not bundled with network contract? in the UK its around £600; about three times the maximum people will pay for a portable console. Apple portables are only worth buying when subsidised and running apples OS is a major factor in the required power for an apple device.

The hardware isn't old in the 3DS but it's all set to very low clock rates and why did they drop Nvidias latest portable graphics? I can only assume battery life was a major consideration for those hardware settings.
The ram is probably enough considering the screen resolutions and given the games we've been shown I doubt that it's going to be an issue for a few years.

The major issue is the PSP which will certainly make the 3DS's specs an embarrassment with it's next release as all it need to beat it atm is a newer graphics processor. The decider will be which will have the better games, the more friendly price and if 3d is enough of a pull.

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